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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: aCuria on Mon, 04 October 2010, 10:08:03

http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/index-2-1-7.html

Has anyone heard of this?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 04 October 2010, 10:16:42

Quote from: aCuria;229562

http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/index-2-1-7.html

Has anyone heard of this?

Give a shot to this link: geekhack.org/search (http://geekhack.org/search.php)

And look for Ducky in titles... Quite a few hits.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 04 October 2010, 10:23:48

Quote from: ripster;229565

Kinda hard to get unless you are one of our Chinese Comrades.

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I'm not familiar with the layout above. According to the picture, the child seams to operate the device by pressing the duck's toes.

Wait... Where's the computer?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Mon, 04 October 2010, 14:37:32

Quote from: ripster;229571

Not a Costar CST-104. That link proved useful. Thanks!
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not costar? i always remembered filco and ducky are both from costar.....ok, i am wrong...any relation between ducky and das???

just more pics of ducky here http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-57104-1-1.html

and ducky's new 80% keyboards http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-110009-1-2.html
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Mon, 04 October 2010, 14:39:29

Quote from: ripster;229565

Yes. If it quacks like a Duck it is a Ducky. There are several threads on the Ducky.

Kinda hard to get unless you are one of our Chinese Comrades.

Teach Your Kids Never To Talk To Strange Ducks
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uhh....i'm one of the chinese comrades...but do not call me "comrade"...that is in the old school...
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: darkblader on Mon, 04 October 2010, 15:19:56

Quote from: ripster;229679

It could be Costar - just saying that is a differently laid out controller board than the Filcos.

Very different case too.
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Sorry about the Comrade crack. I just finished a book on Mao.

How much are these Ducky's again? $120?

and how much would be the shipping? xD 60$?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 04 October 2010, 15:25:43

Quote from: ripster;229679

It could be Costar - just saying that is a differently laid out controller board than the Filcos.

Very different case too.
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(http://gg.a.5d6d.com/userdirs/a/d/jjws/attachments/month_1008/100821003343e8921365088534.jpg)

Sorry about the Comrade crack. I just finished a book on Mao.

How much are these Ducky's again? $120?

If you look at some of the other pics in that series, you can see that particular 'board was an engineering sample, so it might not be exactly how it would look when completed. That said, I'm not so sure that either 'board is a Costar model. Although, the controller board around the arrow keys is very Costar-like.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 04 October 2010, 15:50:16

Quote from: ripster;229690

Who cares if is Costar or not? My iPod could have been made by Costar.

I don't think it matters, personally. It might give some people a reference for quality/performance or even price. People might not want to shell out for a Filco if they can get a Das for less, for example.

Your iPod was made by Foxconn, BTW.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Mon, 04 October 2010, 15:52:35

Quote from: ripster;229679

It could be Costar - just saying that is a differently laid out controller board than the Filcos.

Very different case too.
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Sorry about the Comrade crack. I just finished a book on Mao.

How much are these Ducky's again? $120?

haha, never mind. any ridiculous stories you got from the book on Mao?

ducky 80% is on the market now. if you were in china, you could get one at $90
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: elbowglue on Mon, 04 October 2010, 16:35:07

I wish they would put ducky 80%'s on ebay, I'd probably buy one.. I'd even pay $79 shipping for it if the price is right :)

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: aCuria on Mon, 04 October 2010, 21:57:22

I can get one of these with 2 full sets of keycaps for ~15% less than a filco. Think its worth it?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 05 October 2010, 00:54:06

I heard the only keys that work on a ducky are Q-U-A-C and K

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: laden3 on Tue, 05 October 2010, 01:16:55

Quote from: ripster;229848

Where are you located? How can you get it that cheap?

Details or I shoot the Ducky!
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Is that you? OMG u look.......................... like................:rolleyes:.....a nice guy

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: aCuria on Tue, 05 October 2010, 07:45:44

Quote from: ripster;229848

Where are you located? How can you get it that cheap?

Details or I shoot the Ducky!
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(http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/images/duchhunt-thumb.jpg)

I am located in Singapore some guys are planning to order a bunch of them together.

Think its worth it? Filcos are ~ $189ea here, this is $165 with an extra set of keycaps

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 07:59:46

Go for the Ducky.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: aCuria on Tue, 05 October 2010, 08:21:56

Quote from: itlnstln;229906

Go for the Ducky.

any reasons why? Cost aside, which one is better?

(the razer is the cheapest, at $140 with blue cherries)

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 08:24:37

Better keycaps, same performance and an extra set of keycaps is enough for me.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue, 05 October 2010, 08:43:37

Quote from: itlnstln;229911

Better keycaps, same performance and an extra set of keycaps is enough for me.

Laser etched ???

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: SmallWalrus on Tue, 05 October 2010, 08:49:09

Quote from: aCuria;229901

I am located in Singapore some guys are planning to order a bunch of them together.

Think its worth it? Filcos are ~ $189ea here, this is $165 with an extra set of keycaps

Too late, you can't join us now. Wait for the next group buy :P

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 08:59:06

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;229914

Laser etched ???

Yes, but more importantly, better plastic.

EDIT: Read what Ripster wrote on laser etching in the wiki. It's not the end all, be all for key legends. Filco's pad printing process is very good, and it should last just as long as any laser etching.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:04:57

Oops, I think I got confused with the KBC stuff. Scratch that.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: SmallWalrus on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:06:51

Quote from: aCuria;229910

any reasons why? Cost aside, which one is better?

(the razer is the cheapest, at $140 with blue cherries)

The Razer is 2KRO by the way, not even in the same ballpark.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:07:26

Quote from: ripster;229920

? I thought these were ABS default? Same as Das/Filcos.

yes, all abs. but rumor or some people say filco's keycaps suck....the touch feeling goes worse soon after used for a few weeks....
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:09:26

It's not really a rumor. Filco's caps suck in terms of losing their texture (going shiny).

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: runeazn on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:16:22

Ducky are 85$ to be correct atleast ill get them for that price :/

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:17:29

Quote from: itlnstln;229929

It's not really a rumor. Filco's caps suck in terms of losing their texture (going shiny).

how that could be.... i am considering to try 80% filco with brown switch....if so, i need to find anyone to bring kbc caps for me like this....http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7167820000

btw, the layout of i rocks 6230 looks wired to me...
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: leotnnz on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:22:05

if anyone could get keyboards in china, try to go with PLUM or PLU....they are cheaper and in good quality i thought.
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 09:43:29

Quote from: leotnnz;229934

how that could be....

I would imagine the main reason is that they don't have much texture in the first place. That, and cheap plastic.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: washuai on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:00:00

The Filco texture is a sort of smooth silky feel. I have the blanks, but they're still coated. I have a few shiny keys, but they haven't changed in feel. The keys that are more worn, get less smooth to the touch and grab your finger a little more. So, they feel more textured with age. They're all kinda shiny to begin with, so the shiny spots look darker, than the spots without wear, but it is subtle, unless your keyboard is in a well lit room and you're looking for it.

To me the issue with the wear is how it looks (my blanks looked scuffed on the sides, thanks to the stupid smooth coating).
Brand new out of the box, the flimsy cheap plastic just doesn't feel as nice as better and thicker plastic. It doesn't sound as nice, either.

I'm not a fan of the Filco keycaps, but it is starting to get blown out of proportion (they'll look years old, in a week or two). True, I got blanks, so everything is more subtle, but my Filco looks a lot like the day I unboxed it. Unfortunately, the keys had scuff marks on the side, with the coating, even then, although fewer. At least they don't scuff on the tops.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:00:11

The difference there is how long it takes to do that. With a Topre it might take a few months. With a Filco, that might be the end of the first week.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: washuai on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:08:27

I normally wear through regular pad printed caps in a couple of weeks, but I've had my Filco for months and it still has the majority of its texture coating and it didn't wear the first week, second week or first month. After that, well I paid it less attention, so I dunno when things got shinier. The scuff marks though, they started the first day and continued . . which is crap. It looks like I scratch the side of the keys, but I know I only hit the tops, I don't understand.

My Topre is lightly used, but looked new aside from dust. I do expect it will look untouched for some time. I didn't make any impression on my lasered cherry keys, either. Oh wait, I did, some of the scratchy letters stopped feeling scratchy.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: washuai on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:10:02

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:10:57

My lasered Cherry keycaps still look brand new. My double-shots are shiny, but I got those used, and I don't know how long/much the last person used that 'board.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:12:06

I had two Filcos and two ABSs. All four of them had shiny spacebars in about two weeks.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:18:05

It didn't bother me any, and I do think they have the best-looking caps on the market (mainly due to the font). I just happened to notice it, because I didn't expect it so soon. It's not like I wore a hole through the cap or anything.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:37:03

I am a very well-centered person.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 05 October 2010, 10:44:57

Damn. Can't see the animation through the firewall buster. I'll have to look on my phone later.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Megaweapon on Tue, 05 October 2010, 11:02:16

I will buy a Filco when they offer doubleshot or lasered keycaps.

I don't care if I have to pay extra, but I do care that the fit and finish be 100%. This is why I haven't gone for the "sorta, kinda, more-or-less compatible" sets taken from other boards.

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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 10:58:25

I need more info on the duckys please.

I saw another Ducky that LOOKED dye subliminated key print type, however it was using cherry black switches :/ meh ....

http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/index.html

* DK-9000 tea-axis // blue axis // black shaft
*DK-9008 茶軸青軸黑軸 * DK-9008 tea-axis // blue axis // black shaft
*DK 黑同刻茶軸青軸黑軸 * DK Black with engraved tea shaft // axis blue // black shaft

Which of this is the best to get ? I'm looking for either browns, red or clear cherry switches preferably. Also Full NKRO when using USB to PS2 adapter. Key prints either laser etched. dye subliminated or double shots.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 11:14:06

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How much are the Filcos actually? I have this impression that they range from S$160 - S$200+, but not too sure why it's so.

As for the differences between the Filco and Ducky, there is actually a similar thread on this
Ducky VS Filco - geekhack forums

But I'd say the main advantages are what I've raised above. The ability to disable certain keys (ie: Windows key, and some others) using the build-in function keys, and also the detachable USB cable. For the Filco you need to buy that thing to stuff it under your key to prevent it from being pressed if you are really anal about disabling your Windows key during gaming, and likewise if your keyboard cable comes loose or is worn (it is rare, yeah...) on the Filco you got to ditch the whole keyboard, but with the Ducky you just go to a shop and get a new $3 mini-usb cable.

The DK-9008 is also the more expensive keyboard, with additional 4 function keys that you can map to launch certain applications or keyboard macros. The Filco is just equivalent to Ducky's cheaper DK-9004 (the 104 key variant) that doesn't have the 4 extra keys.

So while it is a bit more pain in the bum and all to get it. Overall it is a slightly better keyboard for slightly less money than the Filco. That, plus it is unique and different

Need more input. That dye subliminated keyboard looks sexy as hell. Do they have brown cherrys by any chance ? I can't friggin read chinese to know :/

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Steelseries, Filco, Ducky and even Das are all made by Costar.
They are just different variation for different taste and market.

Ducky have better keycaps as they are made from PBT.

"praying for double-shot keycaps for costar keyboards" - Undarken

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PBT is a type of plastic.
-->PBT info<--

Polybutylene Terephthalate has excellent dimensional stability, low moisture absorption, and powerful insulation resistance.

Wow, could these be a better alternative to the Cherry G80-3494 ??

http://forums.vr-zone.com/requests-interest-check-mass-order/852082-cherry-mx-based-ducky-108-keys-mechanical-keyboards-free-bonus-keycaps-2.html

OH MY GAWD

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There are:
Black w/ white letters
Black w/ black letters
Black w/ engraved letters

黑同刻 = Engraved rite?
but pics from ducky are Black w/ black letterings

KBC's Engraved
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Ducky's Engraved looks like Black w/ Black letterings
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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: sixty on Thu, 07 October 2010, 12:04:17

If they are still using the same technique they used on the kBTalking boards for the black-on-black then its pad printed and wears of faster than you can type "I should have gotten the Cherry".

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 12:08:12

I was told that it is actually engraved.

By the way here are some pictures

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andytn/sets/72157623746243676/detail/

So let me get this straight, the DK 黑同刻 is actually a DK-9008 but with black on black lettering ? Or am i mistaken ???

AND PLEASE FOR DEAR GOD somebody who can read chinese, does this DK 黑同刻 come with Cherry brown switches ????

In some other Mass order, the choices is either blue or black switches. They also get a free FULL SET of keycaps as part of the new release promotion. I am WONDERING whether if i bought it individually whether it would apply to me as well. I've sent out an email and hope to get a reply soon :/

PS: I am also getting mixed messages whether the keys are abs or pbt.

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Originally Posted by Undarken View Post
For those who joined and wanting to join.

Items you will getting:
- Ducky 9008 (black on black)
- White WASD, with keycap puller
- Extra set of black on black keycaps
- P/S 2 adapter

Specs:
- 104 + 4 media keys with ACS II layout
- NKRO via P/S 2
- 6KRO via USB
- Keycaps are made from ABS (infamous shiny keys)

@ripster

Those kbc keys in the first screenshot, apparently is some sort of prototype for a future Ducky product.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 12:27:53

Hm what i liked about this keyboard is the wire is easily disconnect able and replaced. Also has good wiring management, and it has function keys to disable the windows key.

Anyway

Black Shaft means Cherry MX Black and Tea-Axis means Cherry MX Brown.

So what the **** does Tea-shaft mean ??? is that a Cherry MX Brown ?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 07 October 2010, 12:37:13

黑同刻= black on black for keycaps and if it says 茶軸, its Cherry MX brown.

They gave a full set a keycaps for free because they didn't have the blank versions (otaku version) available at that time and they had to deliver the blank keyboards around the promised date, so they gave those lucky ppl a normal Ducky 1087 and a set of blank keycaps.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 07 October 2010, 12:41:51

I just wish we could the engraved caps in the US. I really like the black on grey caps Topre has, and the engraved KBC caps would be a good substitute for Cherry keyboards.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 14:00:30

Ok so they have this

DK 黑同刻茶軸

DK black on black + cherry mx brown.

So is that black on black the only difference being the key caps ? But it's basically a Ducky 1087 ???

I believe those full sets of keys they are getting aren't blanks, but actually engraved spares o_O; i saw the screenshots they posted.

Sadly that bulk is a choice between blue and black.

Hopefully if i get an email reply back from the Ducky retailer, and their giving free key cap for a brown ducky purchase, that would be great :X

If not, i wonder whether i should get a blue or black as part of that bulk they are doing hm.... is it worth it rather then getting a brown ducky ?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 07 October 2010, 14:09:41

4 more posts until u get ur mechanical keyboard =P Sometimes its better to get a mechanical keyboard and learn to love it...
I am pretty sure that u can get free keycaps if u can time travel and place ur order on taobao before Oct 1st.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 20:02:13

Ok i need some help here guys.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/mass-order-forum/861057-mo-2-cherry-mx-ducky-108-keys-mechanical-keyboards-free-bonus-keycaps-6.html

Basically if i join their mass order, i can probably get it cheaper since their bulking. Also as part of the promotion i can get a free full set of key caps (not blanks from what i heard).

However the choices in this MO is either black or blue only. What i would have preferred was either brown, red or clears; however this keyboard only has either brown, black or blue. Sadly brown isn't selectable for this mass order.

So for gaming and typing, should i get the black or the blue ???? From what i heard blue may be a better compromise for doing both. Will i regret the blue or should i go through the trouble of ordering the brown by myself and pray that i get a free full set of keycaps + a price not much higher than the MO.

Please any advise from the experts on geekhacks :{

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Thu, 07 October 2010, 20:48:56

Go blue. They're fine for gaming.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: squarebox on Thu, 07 October 2010, 20:52:42

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;231090

Ok i need some help here guys.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/mass-order-forum/861057-mo-2-cherry-mx-ducky-108-keys-mechanical-keyboards-free-bonus-keycaps-6.html

Basically if i join their mass order, i can probably get it cheaper since their bulking. Also as part of the promotion i can get a free full set of key caps (not blanks from what i heard).

However the choices in this MO is either black or blue only. What i would have preferred was either brown, red or clears; however this keyboard only has either brown, black or blue. Sadly brown isn't selectable for this mass order.

So for gaming and typing, should i get the black or the blue ???? From what i heard blue may be a better compromise for doing both. Will i regret the blue or should i go through the trouble of ordering the brown by myself and pray that i get a free full set of keycaps + a price not much higher than the MO.

Please any advise from the experts on geekhacks :{

Typing :
Blue : AWESOME (will annoy surrounding people)
Black : Short messages are fine. Anything longer is too harsh for me.

Gaming :
Blue : Double-tapping becomes an issue due to the high release point
Black : Awesome but not for me as i need the tactile feel.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 07 October 2010, 21:02:00

Thats Ducky 9008 (a.k.a. Ducky 108 with 108 keys, which I am not interested in...thought you were talking abt Ducky 1087 :S), why don't you buy both :D

Actually ABS black on black keycaps aren't that expensive
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7366755948
only 99 RMB, but they only sell it to those who bought their 104/108.
(Everyone loves freebies and 99RMB is still $$)

I think blues r better since they give u a tactile feedback (mechanical keyboard addiction gateway drug, probably why Razer chose blues for BW)

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 22:40:37

Double post, delete this one

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Thu, 07 October 2010, 22:41:23

Thx square and laden.

By the way i am joining their bulk. Basically their ordering from Ducky directly and shipping to Singapore. Once arrived, walrus will ship to me in Malaysia. It's still cheaper then buying directly using tabao i reckon.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1591787

What gets me is what does black on black lettering mean ? Is that laser etched ???

Ducky 9008 is about the same as the Ducky 1087 ? Except the 1087 is tenkeyless am i correct ?

PS: They will check if they can get the brown switch. My fallback is the blue switch.

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Razer is rubbish with 2KRO...

Difference between Filco and Ducky :
- LED positioning (caps lock, num lock, scroll lock)
- Ducky 1 more model(9008) and black-on-black keycaps compared to filco

Ducky models (black,blue, brown) = NKRO capable
- 1087 (87keys) (no numpad)
- 9000 (104keys) (normal)
- 9008 (108keys) (4 extra media keys)

Filco models (black,blue, brown) = NKRO capable
- Tenkeyless (87keys) (no numpad)
- Normal (104keys)

*update

squarebox what about brown mx cherries ? The bulk organizer thinks we may be able to order the browns. So how would you review it based on those 2 categories typing and gaming.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Mon, 11 October 2010, 11:50:31

Soon i will be a proud owner of a Ducky :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh85R-S-dh8&feature=related

*surprised Ripster didn't post this utube yet :D

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: squarebox on Mon, 11 October 2010, 13:09:54

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;231166

squarebox what about brown mx cherries ? The bulk organizer thinks we may be able to order the browns. So how would you review it based on those 2 categories typing and gaming.

Moogle, I'm the same person u've have been quoting all this time. Different Nick...

I love gaming on my Filco browns as I dont even bottom out browns for gaming and tend to ride the actuation point, thus making the tactile feel very important to me.
Everyone's method of using a keyboard is different.

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Typing :
Blue : AWESOME (will annoy surrounding people)
Black : Short messages are fine. Anything longer is too harsh for me
Brown : Feels really nice; it will be perfect will the clicks of blue

Gaming :
Blue : Double-tapping becomes an issue due to the high release point
Black : Awesome but not for me as i need the tactile feel
Brown : Great for gaming especially if you ride on the actuation point

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Mon, 11 October 2010, 13:28:19

Hm... what do you mean by actuation point ???

You mean the tactile bumps ???

If i am not mistaken, the rubber dome logitech keyboard i use is linear ? So haven't had much experience with tactile keyboard :/ hm.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: squarebox on Mon, 11 October 2010, 19:31:20

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;232591

Hm... what do you mean by actuation point ???

You mean the tactile bumps ???

If i am not mistaken, the rubber dome logitech keyboard i use is linear ? So haven't had much experience with tactile keyboard :/ hm.

Yes, please do not take my word literally.
All that I stated are based on my personal preference/experience/bias.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue, 12 October 2010, 01:57:11

Fair enough.

By the way.

Quote from: squarebox;232807

Ducky 80% = tenkeyless = Ducky 1087

Why is it called 80% ???

Also whats this about pbt ??? Last i heard, it was abs.

I would have thought that the DK-9008 is better than the 1087 because it has the numpad keys (which i actually use).

So why exactly would the 1087 be better :/ is there something i don't know ??

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 12 October 2010, 03:06:03

sigh..

Quote from: laden3;224105

i dont think that they have a full set of PBT keycaps, that would be freaking expensive... but they might have the PBT keycaps for the 87 keys since they will introduce 1087 with PBT keycaps (10-1 China's national day), but the 1087 will have a number pad (something like the realforce since they replaced the scroll lock with the num lock, again like realforce...)[sry i cant really find a better way to describe this, english isnt my mother tongue =P]. back to the main point, some of ur keys will have numbers on them, which isnt very nice...

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: squarebox on Tue, 12 October 2010, 03:28:11

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;232814

Fair enough.

By the way.

Why is it called 80% ???

Also whats this about pbt ??? Last i heard, it was abs.

I would have thought that the DK-9008 is better than the 1087 because it has the numpad keys (which i actually use).

So why exactly would the 1087 be better :/ is there something i don't know ??

In the land of China, they name things differently.
Here, we say Tenkeyless.
There, they say 80%.

Tenkeyless pros:
- more mouse space for people will small workspace.
- some people find it more comfortable due to the fact ur arm will be position in a more natural A-shape. a touch more ergonomic.

Full-size pros:
- more productive due to numpad

A tenkeyless with a seperate numpad is perfect for me but i cant get Filco Numpad in Singapore so my tenkeyless dream will have wait...

Background : I studied basic product design and ergonomics back in school.

Again, I stress that these are just my opinions. I'm no professional nor doctor.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue, 12 October 2010, 03:30:38

Quote from: squarebox;232827

- more mouse space for people will small workspace

Ah ... also lighter to carry around for lan.

I see :bounce:

PS: did you ducky arrive yet ???

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: squarebox on Tue, 12 October 2010, 03:42:31

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;232828

Ah ... also lighter to carry around for lan.
I see :bounce:
PS: did you ducky arrive yet ???

The duckies are said to arrive around 22 Oct

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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: SmallWalrus on Tue, 12 October 2010, 04:00:37

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;232828

Ah ... also lighter to carry around for lan.

I see :bounce:

Sigh Moogle… one piece of advice. Don't take other people's opinions that literally. They are ultimately, at the end of the day, other people's opinions. Sure, you can fill your head with various manufacturing/materials design notions and come up with this "theory" of a "perfect" keyboard, but when you get it in your hands… who knows, it might absolutely suck for you.

Just learn to take everything with 2 spoons full of salt.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: laden3 on Tue, 12 October 2010, 04:23:55

Quote from: lmnop;232822

sigh..

They postponed the release of the PBT version and the white ones because of some issues with the tabs for their upper casing. Now they r reluctant to give dates... :mad:

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 12 October 2010, 04:28:41

Quote from: laden3;232838

They postponed the release of the PBT version and the white ones because of some issues with the tabs for their upper casing. Now they r reluctant to give dates... :mad:

I was sighing at Moogle for not searching.

I don't think a single company has made a release date on time. even a corporation like Razer had to push back the Blackwidow Ultimate not once but twice.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 12 October 2010, 04:31:46

Quote from: laden3;232838

They postponed the release of the PBT version and the white ones because of some issues with the tabs for their upper casing. Now they r reluctant to give dates... :mad:

I was sighing at Moogle for not searching.

I don't think a single company has made a release date on time. even a corporation like Razer had to push back the Blackwidow Ultimate not once but twice.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue, 12 October 2010, 08:24:35

Quote from: SmallWalrus;232835

Sigh Moogle… one piece of advice. Don't take other people's opinions that literally. They are ultimately, at the end of the day, other people's opinions. Sure, you can fill your head with various manufacturing/materials design notions and come up with this "theory" of a "perfect" keyboard, but when you get it in your hands… who knows, it might absolutely suck for you.

Just learn to take everything with 2 spoons full of salt.

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/j/U/iraq_baghdadbob.jpg)

Lulz of course. But when many different people say the same thing, i'm sure it's safe to assume what it will generally feel like.

It's not as i can walk into a shop here and try them out. Malaysia market is unexciting :{

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue, 12 October 2010, 08:38:39

Hahaha... :laugh:

Anyway seems for the Singaporean bulk, they will offer us the Cherry Mx Browns yay !!! However the delay will be longer, but as long as we get browns it should be worth the patience :D

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: SmallWalrus on Tue, 12 October 2010, 20:27:45

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;232882

Hahaha... :laugh:

Anyway seems for the Singaporean bulk, they will offer us the Cherry Mx Browns yay !!! However the delay will be longer, but as long as we get browns it should be worth the patience :D

Meh. I will wait, but I do wonder how the blues feel like… shall find out once the first batch of these arrive :)

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Mon, 01 November 2010, 06:48:11

Can anyone please confirm whether Costar actually manufactures Ducky keyboards ???

There has been speculation that this may not be the case.

In light of how Archisite's I-T Touch AS-KB87 and Leopold's FC200R both somehow resemble the Ducky 9008 (especially the led key designs) :X

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 01 November 2010, 12:58:19

Quote from: ripster;241076

Animal Cruelty such as dissecting a Ducky is against Forum Rules.

Well, have you peaked at "pointing devices" lately. I don't think mice are taking full advantage of the forum rules...

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: rickysio on Tue, 02 November 2010, 03:06:15

So I got bored while waiting for my Ducky to arrive...

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(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x34/rickysio/e0e6d92a.jpg)

I know the white base sucks, and I missed a couple of areas, but I can't be arsed to tweak it. :b9:

Stock image from here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/andytn/4481449640/in/photostream/

Might actually DIY the first design myself! When that time comes you'd get your dissected pictures.

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: jonhuang on Tue, 02 November 2010, 21:22:45

Does anyone know if Ducky keycaps would fit on a filco board? Assuming I know someone in China. The black on blacks are great, but there's quite an eccentric selection.

http://shop61962089.taobao.com/?search=y&scid=236874553&scname=u/rQtbz8w7Et09C/zM%2B1wdA%3D&checkedRange=true&queryType=cat

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 02 November 2010, 21:28:41

Quote from: jonhuang;241868

Does anyone know if Ducky keycaps would fit on a filco board? Assuming I know someone in China. The black on blacks are great, but there's quite an eccentric selection.

http://shop61962089.taobao.com/?search=y&scid=236874553&scname=u/rQtbz8w7Et09C/zM%2B1wdA%3D&checkedRange=true&queryType=cat

Yes.

You should get a few extra sets for us geekhackers ;)

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: rickysio on Wed, 03 November 2010, 00:41:23

Quote from: ripster;241922

I wonder if KBC paid licensing fees for the Razer logo?
Show Image
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Bwahhahahahahaha!

That's not the best...

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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: rickysio on Wed, 03 November 2010, 06:52:56

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You called?

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: chimera15 on Wed, 03 November 2010, 10:17:31

roflol Colonel Kenpachi? So that's the secret recipe, and how they get the chicken so crispy. He must take off his eyepatch for every batch. roflol

I just hope the chicken isn't actually fried espada. roflol

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 03 November 2010, 10:26:01

If you want the Ducky, you have to get lucky!

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Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: BlueRain on Wed, 03 November 2010, 13:02:45

Thought Ducky is a Taiwan company? Doesn't appear that easy to get even in China (have to go through TaoBao, not many physical stores).

Title: Ducky Keyboards?
Post by: BlueRain on Wed, 03 November 2010, 13:53:46

Well, I do go back to China almost every year, but it would be little weird carrying a suitcase of keyboards. :)

Besides, like I said, not that easy to find them even locally.

Quote from: ripster;242184

Some Hong Kong entrepreneur will start selling them like the Cherry Corp Reds.

Similarly he'll probably charge $15 for the keyboard and $150 for shipping.