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Title: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - UPDATED 12/03/23
Post by: Slimey on Sun, 19 February 2023, 23:39:34
GMK Pink Demon

IC Form
https://forms.gle/dg2nqGpQCJidvDPE9 (https://forms.gle/dg2nqGpQCJidvDPE9)


Hello

GMK Pink Demon is the first set I have designed, it is inspired by the character 'Ram' from Re:Zero. Filling out the google form is greatly appreciated as it allows me to have a better idea on what the community wants. Materials used are Doubleshot ABS and profile is Cherry.

Renders

Wuque Studio Mammoth 75
(https://i.imgur.com/HAjFqln.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uRESHSH.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/S4Iw7Ue.png)

Rama Works M60-A
(https://i.imgur.com/FKjTWag.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZAN7Wui.png)

Kits

Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/Hfdx5TF.png)

Novelties Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/rWHhykw.png)

Spacebar Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/48yizhk.jpg)

Deskmat
(https://i.imgur.com/zGpaqb8.png)

Colours
Pantone 2036C
Pantone 2563C
WS1

Pictures taken on a Sony A7III (flat colour profile) in ambient sunlight, please note that monitor calibration and camera settings may cause slight variations in colour. Pictures of colour chips will be provided in GB post.

(https://i.imgur.com/nl0Cd1j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4GOzovx.jpg)


Vendors (Will update soon)

OCE: Daily Clack

Pricing (TBD)

GB Date (TBD)

Collabs (TBD)

Della Key Character Artisan (soon)
KBM Metal Artisan (soon)


Please don't hesitate to contact me if you would like to collab.
Discord ˚₊·͟͟͞➳BenG  |  GMK Pink Demon#9999

Thank You
I would like to thank everyone who has answered my many questions and advised me on design revisions. Thanks for helping me get this far <3


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: stewfayew on Sun, 19 February 2023, 23:45:33
My favorite anime <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: keepoto on Sun, 19 February 2023, 23:48:20
nice we have rim rem and ram now
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Slimey on Mon, 20 February 2023, 04:56:23
My favorite anime <3

Agreed!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 20 February 2023, 09:07:52
I like Ram. But ambivalent thoughts on this set.
Thanks for including 3key 40s.

Dunno if GMK will allow that Esc novelty. Hopefully though.

You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

Consider: Maybe use purple accent? Like her hair clasp.

Consider: And a white color instead of having 3 pink colors featured. Since she wears a lot of white too and it might fit pink.

Furthermore:
- consider UWU XT Addon
- consider 6u spacebars in spacebar kit for HHKB (and some weird layouts and 40s)
- consider 2x 1.5u Super for HHKB (in Extension possibly)
- consider XBOX Backspace and Purse Caps Lock (like GMK Frost Witch)
- consider asking Bapo (Oni Designer) for reusing some of Oni novelties... but in this colorway. Would be cool.

I think I am personally not a big fan of the bright pink on another bright pink color. Might be too low contrast? Like grey or black on black sets. Thats why I am suggesting that white on pink might be better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 20 February 2023, 09:10:39
nice we have rim rem and ram now

Rim is my favorite character  ;D

You forgot Rom though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: keepoto on Mon, 20 February 2023, 09:54:21
nice we have rim rem and ram now

Rim is my favorite character  ;D

You forgot Rom though.

do we have rum yet or is that a pirate set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Whisom on Mon, 20 February 2023, 10:13:08
Not a huge fan of the darkest shade of pink used. It almost looks like a fresh scap over a bruise next to the other shades of pink. Think the set could use a little more contrast too to make it pop some more.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 20 February 2023, 12:15:23
Not a huge fan of the darkest shade of pink used. It almost looks like a fresh scap over a bruise next to the other shades of pink. Think the set could use a little more contrast too to make it pop some more.

I am on the same page with "more contrast".

Imo White on pink would be nice. And then maybe some more red-ish pink for mods (like GMK Darling) and maybe purple accents to stay true to the character.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 20 February 2023, 16:07:22
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

That said, you can find Pantone and RAL RGB/HEX/CMYK codes online, for example here - https://www.qtccolor.com/secaiku/

(https://i.postimg.cc/2SVRPSW-m/pantone-c-2036-2044-2050.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 20 February 2023, 18:01:11
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

That said, you can find Pantone and RAL RGB/HEX/CMYK codes online, for example here - https://www.qtccolor.com/secaiku/

Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SVRPSW-m/pantone-c-2036-2044-2050.png)

From my past colormatching experience, 1/3 of pantone's hex codes are good, 1/3 are ok, and 1/3 are trash. Colormatching is a difficult process and there are so many areas for error, from color calibration from monitors, light sources when looking at swatches, and human eyes that it's more art than science. The best we can do as designers is take photos of the swatches so that customers can say that our colors are off anyways because their monitors are on gaming mode and show color horribly  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Nuap on Mon, 20 February 2023, 18:25:59
How will the novelties with two legend colours be produced?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 20 February 2023, 18:27:13
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

Exactly, that's why I would like to see pictures of the chips in a real environment (with colors in background that I can compare these chips to as to grasp what this might look like in reality).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 20 February 2023, 18:33:59
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

Exactly, that's why I would like to see pictures of the chips in a real environment (with colors in background that I can compare these chips to as to grasp what this might look like in reality).

And in my opinion it is much better than just having renders that might be much more far off reality. Like Cylent mentioned.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Slimey on Mon, 20 February 2023, 18:41:53
Thanks all for the detailed feedback, I will take some time to rethink how to incorporate some of this. If you haven’t filled out the google form please do as this will give me a better idea on what the most important changes will be. ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Slimey on Mon, 20 February 2023, 20:35:21
I like Ram. But ambivalent thoughts on this set.
Thanks for including 3key 40s.

Dunno if GMK will allow that Esc novelty. Hopefully though.

You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

Consider: Maybe use purple accent? Like her hair clasp.

Consider: And a white color instead of having 3 pink colors featured. Since she wears a lot of white too and it might fit pink.

Furthermore:
- consider UWU XT Addon
- consider 6u spacebars in spacebar kit for HHKB (and some weird layouts and 40s)
- consider 2x 1.5u Super for HHKB (in Extension possibly)
- consider XBOX Backspace and Purse Caps Lock (like GMK Frost Witch)
- consider asking Bapo (Oni Designer) for reusing some of Oni novelties... but in this colorway. Would be cool.

I think I am personally not a big fan of the bright pink on another bright pink color. Might be too low contrast? Like grey or black on black sets. Thats why I am suggesting that white on pink might be better.

Will consider all of this, thanks for the detailed feedback. In regards to Oni Designer, I contacted them a while ago about similar concerns while this set was still in the early stages (looked completely different back then), unfortunately I did not get a response from them. While both characters are arguably very similar, there inevitably will be some novelty overlap in terms of core ideas, however I did make sure to make the novelties my own and not 'reuse' their novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Cylent on Mon, 20 February 2023, 21:21:30
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

Exactly, that's why I would like to see pictures of the chips in a real environment (with colors in background that I can compare these chips to as to grasp what this might look like in reality).

And in my opinion it is much better than just having renders that might be much more far off reality. Like Cylent mentioned.
I recommend re-reading the last sentence of my comment  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: Slimey on Mon, 20 February 2023, 22:00:52
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

Exactly, that's why I would like to see pictures of the chips in a real environment (with colors in background that I can compare these chips to as to grasp what this might look like in reality).

And in my opinion it is much better than just having renders that might be much more far off reality. Like Cylent mentioned.
I recommend re-reading the last sentence of my comment  ;D

Ah I see what you mean now, sorry for the confusion haha.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Tue, 21 February 2023, 07:32:16
You have pictures of the Pantone chips?

You can't see accurate colors from a photo displayed on a monitor.  Even if the monitor is calibrated, various light sources completely change appearance, and the shape/texture of the keycaps have an impact as well.

Exactly, that's why I would like to see pictures of the chips in a real environment (with colors in background that I can compare these chips to as to grasp what this might look like in reality).

And in my opinion it is much better than just having renders that might be much more far off reality. Like Cylent mentioned.
I recommend re-reading the last sentence of my comment  ;D

Don't think shape would have a big if any impact.
As for texture, most plastic chips have one side with rough and one with smooth texture.
And as for light, sunlight should be quite standardised around the globe.
And it should really just be enough having something else in picture which I can refer to to see how much saturation, contrast etc is in the picture.

But really just having the color chips next to each other helps a lot already imho. I suppose it helps, I mean at least a bunch of designers post their color chips next to each other.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon Updated Design - New IC Form
Post by: Slimey on Sat, 04 March 2023, 22:13:26
Updated Design and new renders based on feedback. Please fill out new IC form.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Pink Demon Updated Design - New IC Form
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 05 March 2023, 03:56:02
Updated Design and new renders based on feedback. Please fill out new IC form.  :D

Nice new renders. (Still consider the stuff I mentioned about kitting above.)

Which layout uses 2u Shift? I rarely if ever see that one in a set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - ANOTHER UPDATE TO DESIGN - NEW IC FORM
Post by: Slimey on Sun, 05 March 2023, 05:59:41
Slight kitting change to base kit, added hhkb support in space bar kit and added a second option to novelties kit. Most voted for option in the google form will be chosen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - ANOTHER UPDATE TO DESIGN - NEW IC FORM
Post by: kireign on Sun, 05 March 2023, 13:53:34
Alpha color 1.5u pipe key and ~ keys missing 'む' & 'る" sublegends respectively in the base kit render, but has it in the board render ?

Proofreading aside, highly concerned with using the R1 novelties after GMK's IP crackdown. Not so subtle using a character design.

Pretty colorway tho, glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - ANOTHER UPDATE TO DESIGN - NEW IC FORM
Post by: Slimey on Sun, 05 March 2023, 18:10:56
Alpha color 1.5u pipe key and ~ keys missing 'む' & 'る" sublegends respectively in the base kit render, but has it in the board render ?

Proofreading aside, highly concerned with using the R1 novelties after GMK's IP crackdown. Not so subtle using a character design.

Pretty colorway tho, glwic

Good catch on the base kit, will look into the 1u and see if it is going to be an issue.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - NOVELTIES FINALISED
Post by: Slimey on Mon, 06 March 2023, 02:32:06
Novelties kit finalised, fixed pipe key sublegend colour in base kit and updated renders. Colour combinations may change to better reflect the theme.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK PINK DEMON - UPDATED 12/03/23
Post by: Slimey on Sat, 11 March 2023, 08:55:37
Updated kits and renders.