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Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: test157 on Thu, 07 October 2010, 17:04:03

hey guys, what fingers do you use for pushing HJKL in vim? (what finger for what key)

p.s.: any HHKB PRO owners who use FN + ARROWS instead of HJLK?

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: elservo on Thu, 07 October 2010, 17:08:45

My right index finger reaches one key to the left to hit the H.

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: kps on Thu, 07 October 2010, 20:17:03

Index, index, middle, ring.
Dum deedle dum dum,
Ding ding.

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8353/hjkl.jpg) (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/hjkl.jpg/)

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 07 October 2010, 20:30:32

Um, yeah.
 
Right-hand index/middle/ring/pinky homekeys should be JKL;(semicolon) on all qwerty keyboards, first thing they teach in typing.
 
lol, blank key caps are good for improving speed/accuracy when you know how to type - they force you to break the habit of glancing at the keyboard.
 
But I would never recommend them for people who are still learning how to type.  Looking at the keyboard is a bad habit you should avoid (and will still do anyways, at least a little), true.  But I suspect that, overall, it will take less time to become a proficient typist by moving to a blankfaced keyboard after you've "learned" basic stuff like which fingers go to which keys.
 
You could always "mark" the keys with something tactile.  Bit of velcro or something.

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: rantenki on Thu, 07 October 2010, 21:38:03

I have remapped windows+hjkl to arrows, and I usually shift my hand over a space to move with the hjkl combo. Maybe I am weird.

I also use vim, zsh and linux, so I am already way outside of the norm afaict.

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 07 October 2010, 21:52:21

vim and zsh aren't weirder than emacs and bash.  I use cygwin a lot.
 
linux dominates in so many ways that the norm (Windows) is actually a dumb choice.
 
lol, I agree, your arrow mapping is kinda weird though (kps and rantenki).

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: WhiteRice on Thu, 07 October 2010, 21:58:53

I'm so used to vim, that scrolling around emacs is a pain. The GUI is pretty nice though.

Title: What are right fingers for HJKL?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 07 October 2010, 22:53:36

yeah/no ... xemacs does look better, but I personally hate it ... it turns readable text into crap.  Tons better than old (non GUI) emacs, ick.  More and more I'm finding that dedicated office apps and programming IDEs are just the easier way to go.  (And they have enough features now that you don't really need to pull out emacs and hex editors to change little details.)
 
Just my opinion, lol ;)