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Title: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 April 2023, 18:37:09
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 The world could breach 1.5 degrees of warming for the first time

El Niño (This year) could -- for the first time -- push the world past 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming above the pre-industrial levels of the mid-to-late 1800s.

Compared to pre-industrial temperatures. Scientists consider 1.5 degrees of warming as a key tipping point, beyond which the chances of extreme flooding, drought, wildfires and food shortages could increase dramatically.

A strong El Niño could push the planet to that point, Scaife said, even if only temporarily.

"We will probably have, in 2024, the warmest year globally on record," Josef Ludescher a senior scientist at Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research
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Australia due to their latitude breached 1.52 Celcius in 2019, climate change will affect them more quickly before the Americas. This breakthrough there brought upon "Black Summer." where an area of ~250,000 km^2 burned, the size of wyoming.  this was also the spark of their major climate upheaval, student protests.

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For the past 3 years, despite record setting temperatures each year, we had the luck of La-Nina 3x in the row, a cooling (weather) event in the ocean,  THIS YEAR, it's going to be El-Nino, a potentially apocalyptic warming event.

Tp4 highly recommends "Burning (2021)" Documentary

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Mon, 10 April 2023, 20:20:24
Aren't you a ray of sunshine :\
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 April 2023, 20:44:48
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 April 2023, 07:41:35
OMG...  SUPER EL' Niño

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/12/climate-models-warn-of-possible-super-el-nino-before-end-of-year

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 12 April 2023, 08:17:51
The one thing that has tended to be true about forecasts of future global warming is that they usually dramatically underestimate what actually happens.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Wed, 12 April 2023, 09:16:12
Gotta stay positive in the face of certain doom, so here's my silver lining: At the rate this is going the billionaires won't have enough time to escape into space by the time the world ends.
I'm not actually gonna start prepping for the end of the world, but I will say that I'm gonna start valuing each day a bit more than I used to.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 April 2023, 09:20:21
people fail to grasp "Exponential" , disasters will become "Exponentially WORSE"
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 12 April 2023, 09:34:07
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9)

TL;DR - sea level around New Orleans has risen 8 inches = 20 centimeters since the time of Hurricane Katrina
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 April 2023, 10:08:02
their replacement levee system isn't even up to the spec of the original which busted wide open, it's only enough to minimally qualify for insurance.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Wed, 12 April 2023, 10:53:45
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9)

TL;DR - sea level around New Orleans has risen 8 inches = 20 centimeters since the time of Hurricane Katrina


If I lose Massachusetts to global warming I will dedicate the rest of my life to destroying everything that took my home from me
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 12 April 2023, 12:11:03

If I lose Massachusetts to global warming


Massachusetts gets up to a thousand thousand meters high in the west, you will probably only lose the first meter or 2 during your lifetime.
Revenge is a fool's errand, the past has passed. Expend your energies and rescue the future from the Republicans.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Wed, 12 April 2023, 13:57:52

If I lose Massachusetts to global warming


Massachusetts gets up to a thousand thousand meters high in the west, you will probably only lose the first meter or 2 during your lifetime.
Revenge is a fool's errand, the past has passed. Expend your energies and rescue the future from the Republicans.
You're assuming death will stop me.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 13 April 2023, 10:07:19
Ft Lauderdale, Florida (a little North of Miami) got almost  2  FEET  (2/3 of a meter) of rain in just seven (7) hours yesterday.

Their previous record was about a foot and a half (half a meter) of rain in 3 days ....

https://www.thenextmiami.com/the-2022-list-of-every-supertall-tower-currently-being-planned-in-miami/ (https://www.thenextmiami.com/the-2022-list-of-every-supertall-tower-currently-being-planned-in-miami/)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 13 April 2023, 11:06:17
Just another great year for records  :thumb: 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Fri, 14 April 2023, 04:07:12
I'm gonna drown if this keeps up D; .
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 26 April 2023, 20:32:04
This might be it gekhfam..  we' in it now !!

Scientists scratching their heads.  Is this the tipping point ? Have we maxed out the ocean's absorption potential.

Ocean Temperature


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 01 May 2023, 08:17:55
We may also find out how utterly dependant on satellites and GPS we have become when solar flares fry the electronics in them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sun-more-active-solar-storms-auroras-power-outages-grounded-flights-2023-2 (https://www.businessinsider.com/sun-more-active-solar-storms-auroras-power-outages-grounded-flights-2023-2)

If you haven't read about the Carrington Event  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event)  you should.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 May 2023, 17:50:50
BTW,  the Dust Bowl is back..

https://www.cnn.com/videos/weather/2023/05/01/illinois-deadly-dust-storm-i-55-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 May 2023, 01:53:52
They've resorted to Prayer in Spain for RAIN.

Olive groves parched due to only receiving 1/5th of the average amount of rainfall.

Yields decimated, 55% lower than previous year,  commodity food oil prices at highest levels.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: yiuoterw on Sun, 14 May 2023, 01:58:23
Hey, look at the silver lining.
If climate change is getting worse, at this rate we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 May 2023, 02:21:55
Hey, look at the silver lining.
If climate change is getting worse, at this rate we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

I get your funny yiuoterw, damn that florida.

But I must caution fellow humans,  it's going to take the net efforts of EVERY person's climate responsible actions to turn this disaster around.  All hands on deck.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sun, 14 May 2023, 02:53:45
I want to stay hopeful about this, but I'm not very optimistic about this, not only does it seem we have to change a lot of the aspects of living (we as a society may not want to do some of that) but we also need to convince corporations to stop damaging the planet, but of course that would mean losing some profit, but they don't want to do that sadly.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 May 2023, 07:01:33

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!


Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 May 2023, 08:32:13
I want to stay hopeful about this, but I'm not very optimistic about this, not only does it seem we have to change a lot of the aspects of living (we as a society may not want to do some of that) but we also need to convince corporations to stop damaging the planet, but of course that would mean losing some profit, but they don't want to do that sadly.

It's both  top down and bottom up.

Animal agriculture is the biggest single polluter accounting for up to 87% of net green house emission, the key difference in statistics is that the typical number you hear between 15 and 30% does NOT account for the opportunity cost of LAND USE which would otherwise be forest instead of corn,soy.

SOURCE: Salesh Rao,   https://climatehealers.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/JES-Rao.pdf

Animal agriculture in growing feed-crop is responsible for 90% of amazon deforestation.

From the top down, the producers have to switch to alternative protein product other than animals.

From the bottom up, we as consumers have to stop buying destructive livestock. That's our vote.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 May 2023, 08:36:19

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!


Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.



It doesn't take that much, + the tide, another meter will decimate florida. They already have uncontrollable flooding in many urban areas.

The damage will be exponential and cascade,  the insurance companies are already pulling out, much like new orleans. The new orleans's new levy is lower spec than the previous levy which failed. It was only built to minimally qualify for insurance.

Rel-estate is a bubble economy because it has a floating value, in every case Yale/Harvard studies have shown that it's grossly overvalued by several trillion, as to not account for climate risk of properties in danger of unsustainable water, burning forests, severe catastrophic storms.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 17 May 2023, 06:46:10
Alberta canada righ nao.. various provinces of canada experiencing 10-15 degrees above normal seasonal temperatures.

This color has rgb value, 220, 190, 138, css, Burly Wood.

Zoom in, ENJOY the Burly wood !!


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 17 May 2023, 09:28:04

+ the tide, another meter will decimate florida.


Can you believe this crap? What are they thinking?

https://www.condoblackbook.com/blog/february-2023-miami-s-new-development-and-pre-construction-condo-news/ (https://www.condoblackbook.com/blog/february-2023-miami-s-new-development-and-pre-construction-condo-news/)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 17 May 2023, 09:38:28
Florida is a stronghold of mob and cartel money. They're not exactly forward looking.

Their primary ideology is apathy. Our own government that's in bed with these people are identical, so everyone is to blame.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Wed, 17 May 2023, 12:16:06

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!


Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.
Meanwhile at 1 m above sea level....  :')
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 17 May 2023, 12:20:27

at 1 m above sea level


Do you rent or own?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Wed, 17 May 2023, 14:42:19

at 1 m above sea level


Do you rent or own?
Rent, no way I can buy a house.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 17 May 2023, 16:01:16

Rent, no way I can buy


I was being snarky, I have a friend with a house at the beach, actually on a small island, that will go under early.

You Dutch have always been very clever, but I suppose that this new task might be looking insurmountable.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 18 May 2023, 11:50:44
Sky Color, rgb 255, 219, 163, css, Navajo White.

Sun Color, rgb 244, 154, 164, css, Dark Salmon


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 19 May 2023, 09:15:00
Northern Italy, Emilia Romagna region

20,000 now homeless, 13 dead.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 19 May 2023, 18:09:30
Shabelle River, Beledweyne, Somalia, burst banks, 250,000 people have fled homes.

Peoples who contributed the least to climate change will pay the most devastating price.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 20 May 2023, 02:47:44
Northern Italy, Emilia Romagna region

20,000 now homeless, 13 dead.


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Shabelle River, Beledweyne, Somalia, burst banks, 250,000 people have fled homes.

Peoples who contributed the least to climate change will pay the most devastating price.


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This is actually so tragic, I hope these people will be ok
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 May 2023, 11:57:41
This economic system is stupid. They've reached deals in the Western States to cut water use to "SAVE" the Colorado river/lake system.

That deal involves PAYING ~1 BILLION dollars to the various industries to "conserve" water through the inflation reduction act.

The Tax payers are paying them to NOT do something?

It's like being paid not to do work.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 June 2023, 05:29:23
God damn it, the bad news doesn't end,

Upper atmosphere Rapidly Cooling at the result of Lower atmosphere Warming has knock on effects from irreparable Arctic Ozone hole to Satellite collision.

Big article, difficult to summarize.


https://www.wired.com/story/the-upper-atmosphere-is-cooling-prompting-new-climate-concerns/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 05 June 2023, 08:54:15
! ! !

one excerpt:

One of the most turbulent of these phenomena is known as sudden stratospheric warming. Westerly winds in the stratosphere periodically reverse, resulting in big temperatures swings, during which parts of the stratosphere can warm by as much as 90 degrees F (50 degrees C) in a couple of days.

This is typically accompanied by a rapid sinking of air that pushes onto the Atlantic jet stream at the top of the troposphere. The jet stream, which drives weather systems widely across the Northern Hemisphere, begins to snake. This disturbance can cause a variety of extreme weather, from persistent intense rains to summer droughts and “blocking highs” that can cause weeks of intense cold winter weather from eastern North America to Europe and parts of Asia.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 June 2023, 10:20:50
150 wildfires in Quebec Canada right now, 110 deemed out of control by forestry service.

Haze covers large swaths of east coast USA. Smoggy Smoke smell fills the air,  Purple Air quality index, NYC enveloped, RED SUN.


(https://i.imgur.com/8Wc1obj.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Aquarius on Fri, 09 June 2023, 04:20:55
it's hot today
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 June 2023, 09:03:33
Who knew?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sun, 11 June 2023, 10:19:27
Who knew?

People have known this was an issue for ages, but they don't care because they are making a lot of money. corporations will only do something if it affects them.

This video sums it up perfectly (and it's really funny too)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 13 June 2023, 04:00:13
It's God's punishment for ignorning the teachings of Jesus Christ and hating the LGBTQ+ community.

(Hey, if the right gets to claim every natural disaster as an indictment against the left, why not the opposite)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 13 June 2023, 08:20:49
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Tue, 13 June 2023, 10:31:25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events)

That’s great. In 200 years they will be able to add all of the current green-zealots to the list of apocalyptic doomsayers. How silly things look in hindsight.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 15 June 2023, 10:15:05
Up to 500 refugees died off a sunk migrant boat headed form libya to greece, including 100+ children.

The boat was overloaded with 750 passengers. ~100 rescued, ~78 dead, the rest missing at sea (probably dead).

So it seems, even for water route, future climate refugees can expect pretty poor odds of survival.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 16 June 2023, 06:50:51
Let's GOOOOOOO !!

temperature update.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: nitrosonic on Tue, 27 June 2023, 06:40:57
The world could breach 1.5 degrees of warming for the first time. El Niño (This year) could -- for the first time -- push the world past 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming above the pre-industrial levels of the mid-to-late 1800s. Compared to pre-industrial temperatures. Scientists consider 1.5 degrees of warming as a key tipping point, beyond which the chances of extreme flooding, drought, wildfires, and food shortages could increase dramatically. Regarding the fact that this year can be biblical, I think that this is pure manipulation. Religion has always been used as a tool for crowd control, I read about it here  https://writingbros.com/essay-examples/manipulation-of-religion-in-handmaids-tale/ (https://writingbros.com/essay-examples/manipulation-of-religion-in-handmaids-tale/)   when looking for materials for my college studies. I think that everything will be the same as in 2012, that is, no way. A strong El Niño could push the planet to that point, Scaife said, even if only temporarily. "We will probably have, in 2024, the warmest year globally on record," Josef Ludescher a senior scientist at Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

Let's live until the end of 2023 first...  :)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 27 June 2023, 17:18:12
Texas Heat Dome, Several days of 100F heat already, which typically does not occur until AUGUST, it's not even July.

What Texas really needs to prepare for is Super Flood Risk.  What moisture goes up, must come Down.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 June 2023, 18:55:24
The writing on the fever patches says, I don't have a fever.

Shanghai Heatwave
(https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/61.gif?w=560)

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 11:37:31
Meanwhile if Florida,  MALARIA is BACK..

Don't get bit, skeets
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 12:17:55
On a positive note, California is no longer in a drought condition. In fact, most of the reservoirs are full or near full. Had the state spent money on water infrastructure instead of bullet trains to nowhere, we would be exporting water in times of need. Here in SoCal, this has been one of the most pleasant years on record.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 12:28:56
The train is part of the decarbonization process.  We need alot more trains.

As for reservoirs,  this is a good year out of a multi decade long drought.  WHICH, is itself part of the desertification process occurring in the west.

Deserts follow civilization, this has always been the case, and we're at that tail end.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 12:58:50
So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 29 June 2023, 14:11:54
A very wet winter certainly helped buy the SW some time, but the groundwater there is still severely depleted.

Water is a very precious resource that we all grew up taking for granted and considering almost "free" ....
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 14:35:01
So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.

Yes, but Tp4 is quite at peace with this, if you think about it, witnessing the-very-END of human civilization in the coming 5-10 years is SUPER Lucky.

Takes 100s of thousands of years for us to come this far, and we got to try all the best stuffs.

If you were born even 100 years ago, the best we had then was some pieces of wood on another piece of wood, the pinnacle of entertainment.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 14:57:54
A very wet winter certainly helped buy the SW some time, but the groundwater there is still severely depleted.

Water is a very precious resource that we all grew up taking for granted and considering almost "free" ....


Yes, I agree. California has had cyclical drought/abundant rainfall years for quite some time. By now California politicians should have recognized the need for more reservoirs and collection areas to replenish the aquaphors which have been critically compromised because of bad policies. This is not a new problem.
So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.

Yes, but Tp4 is quite at peace with this, if you think about it, witnessing the-very-END of human civilization in the coming 5-10 years is SUPER Lucky.

Takes 100s of thousands of years for us to come this far, and we got to try all the best stuffs.

If you were born even 100 years ago, the best we had then was some pieces of wood on another piece of wood, the pinnacle of entertainment.


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These are exciting times, for a number of reasons. It is important to appreciate the times we live in whether good or bad, do what we can to help, and recognize that some things are out of our control. Personally, I would rather focus on more immediate needs that threaten the public good than apocalyptic predictions that are decades or centuries away.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 15:12:21
These are exciting times, for a number of reasons. It is important to appreciate the times we live in whether good or bad, do what we can to help, and recognize that some things are out of our control. Personally, I would rather focus on more immediate needs that threaten the public good than apocalyptic predictions that are decades or centuries away.

Agreed Kurplop, Check out these diagrams based on IPCC data. Remember the food industry actively lobbied them to prevent the IPCC from recommending a plant-based diet as a means of rectifying climate change.

Notice, that Animal Agriculture (growing feed crop), 39 grams of food goes in for 1 gram of meat out, uses up an enormous 37% of the land surface. A deficit of 3 Trillion Trees opportunity cost.

98% of carbon sequestered on Land is in the PLANTS in the white circle.  That is ~3x as much as in the atmosphere.

Because of the deficit in Trees (3 trillion),  the Feed crop we grow for animals only sequester ~2% of carbon.

Animal agriculture is the #1 root cause of climate change.

85% of what humans eat, is grown in that green corner on the right.  The giant RED blob is what we FEED to LIVESTOCK which only accounts for 12% of food, we then bottom trawl 4 billion acres of ocean (size of Russia) to obtain only 3% of food from fish, that is the size of africa


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Land Surface Distribution


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 15:52:47
TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops. Much grazing land isn’t suitable for forests or much of anything but for growing native prairie grasses. These areas require some water but are rarely irrigated. It is incorrect in assuming that much of this land could be transformed into forests. The map shows the North American continent to be a major carbon sequestered of CO2 which supports forestry numbers showing that US forests are as well or better  populated with trees than before 1910.

Animals continues to be an excellent source of protein as well as other needed nutrients for humans. The animals turn plants that are indigestible for humans into food. You may argue about the inhumane treatment of livestock but the land use argument is pretty weak.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 16:07:05
TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops.

NO, that is not what grazing land is. The vast majority of grazing land is FOREST that we CUT and BURNED over the Millennia, we've done this for roughly 10,000 years.

The Map is only blotched off in color to explain SCALE,  in real life,  It's distributed across the earth's surface with exception of the desert.

It is 100% possible to assume this much land was forest, because we have records of modern deforestation in America, Forest was all there was..

The REVERSE,  reforestation is also true, because again, we've done this to vast areas, and the Trees grow back without human intervention.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 16:10:24
TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops.

NO, that is not what grazing land is. The vast majority of grazing land is FOREST that we CUT and BURNED over the Millennia, we've done this for roughly 10,000 years.

In the US?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 June 2023, 16:12:38

In the US?


YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 16:23:25

In the US?


YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.


How do you explain the increased forests then?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 29 June 2023, 16:23:50

In the US?


YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.


How do you explain the increased forests?

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 July 2023, 17:08:12
Huzzah!
Yesterday, July 3, 2023, was the hottest day ever recorded on the Planet Earth.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 July 2023, 21:57:48
Record broke only a day after. Apocalyptic Famine soon.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 07 July 2023, 08:12:35
3rd hottest day ever record broken

The end of times is near.

/Veggies
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 07 July 2023, 23:28:18
4th day record broken.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 08 July 2023, 04:55:25
Wow... that's extremely morbid info, maybe this will be the sign for the people in charge to actually do something (Probably not sadly)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 09 July 2023, 11:08:26
Here on Earth, we can only blame ourselves.

The Sun doesn't care what we are doing, and has its own behavior. Maybe the northern US will get a show this week.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186525577/northern-lights-aurora-borealis-2023 (https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186525577/northern-lights-aurora-borealis-2023)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 July 2023, 11:20:54
Our grid is also not remotely ready for a CME.

It could quite literally be the end of Humanity, because the failure cascade as all the solid state controllers burn out in our grid, we'll have multiple me1td0wns across the country.

Without proper p0wr infrastructure working, repairs/ coordination can easily become impossible. Each rea(tor in america is equivalent of 6 (hernoby1s worth in the fuel pools alone because they're overfilled.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 July 2023, 18:04:36
One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

(https://i.imgur.com/HmeSYmM.jpg)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Mon, 10 July 2023, 18:20:47
One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

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I don't know I feel that people will still call it gay or something.

All of this news makes me wants to invest in a sunscreen companies.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 July 2023, 19:07:35
So right now, Canada fires have already burned ~20,000,000 acres. That is currently the size of South Carolina.

For perspective, Australia's recent Black Summer, among the most devestating fires mankind has ever witnessed, was ~60,000,000 acres,  that's the size of an entire Wyoming.

Canada fires began 1 month earlier than the normal fire season,  fingers are crossed that they get some "earlier" rain as well,  But the reality may be, it's Canada's Turn for Black Summer.

For perspective, usa's official records began in 1983, recent peaks at 10mil acre in a year.


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USA acre burned per year.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: yz on Tue, 11 July 2023, 20:23:16
One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

Show Image
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that used to be the norm in the NBA in the 60s, gotta bring that back in fashion  :D
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 July 2023, 08:44:46
Vermont flood,  NICE !! climate change is fake news !!

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 12 July 2023, 10:34:07

climate change is fake news


You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 July 2023, 12:13:25

You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.


Specific to COAL,  this is going to sound wildly unpopular, but we might need to significantly increase coal burning in the mean time as a temporary measure to stabilized the climate, while we convert the energy FROM said burning into Solar Panels and Wind Power.

Many new scientific papers recently has come out indicating that the pandemic shutdowns which dramatically reduced  Aerosol cover from burning fossil fuels, is what triggered the intense drought and flood situations across asia/ europe/ australia.  and now NOW , USA.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 13 July 2023, 00:55:53

You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.


Specific to COAL,  this is going to sound wildly unpopular, but we might need to significantly increase coal burning in the mean time as a temporary measure to stabilized the climate, while we convert the energy FROM said burning into Solar Panels and Wind Power.

Many new scientific papers recently has come out indicating that the pandemic shutdowns which dramatically reduced  Aerosol cover from burning fossil fuels, is what triggered the intense drought and flood situations across asia/ europe/ australia.  and now NOW , USA.


Yeah I could see why we would need to do that, while we definitely need to phase out all of this stuff quickly, we have the infrastructure to speed up coal harvesting and to have a stockpile of it while we build more solar/wind turbines.

We can't comprise or do half measures when it comes to the climate, so if we need to run coal to completely implement the more renewable energy sources than we have to.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 14 July 2023, 13:22:03
Siberia over 100F/38C above the Arctic Circle.

Again.

ps - it was above 90F/32C on the beach at the Arctic Ocean
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 14 July 2023, 13:40:20
Siberia over 100F/38C above the Arctic Circle.

Again.

ps - it was above 90F/32C on the beach at the Arctic Ocean



Starting to think 5 to 20 years left of humanity is an over-estimate.

It's probably 2-10 years tops. Once the methane loop pops,  it's nearly game over.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 14 July 2023, 15:27:06
Arizona gonna be 120+ tomorrow
yuck
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 14 July 2023, 16:58:31
Arizona gonna be 120+ tomorrow
yuck
Arizona heat isn't the same as the rest of the country because it has such insanely low levels of humidity (often single digit humidity).

Typically, 120F in Arizona feels about the same as roughly 100F or so in the midwest.
Not saying it's pleasant or that it won't blast you in the face like a blow dryer when you walk outside but it's not the 120f you would expect.

*I've lived all over the southwest, including Arizona.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Sun, 16 July 2023, 06:24:57
Worst weather I've had yet was in Singapore. 32 C in 100 humidity is incredible, all you want to do is flee. It's like it activates a primal instinct in you or something.

45 in Vegas and the Sahara was nowhere near as bad.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 16 July 2023, 06:43:35
Feline Corononavirus killed 300,000 cats in Cyprus,  has likely already left the country, too late for containment.

Good thing cats are typically indoors, but you know, stay away from other cats if you have cats.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 July 2023, 08:08:59
US Western fires expected to Splodz soonish.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 18 July 2023, 10:58:31
11% deficit in antarctic sea ice this year vs previous.

This is a hugely important indicator, but also a major tipping point because ice is a large component to land Albedo, (reflectivity) of sunlight.  WITHOUT WHICH, we'd burn up even faster.

(https://i.imgur.com/wnXNQ1j.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 19 July 2023, 16:41:02
https://fortune.com/2023/07/18/house-republicans-want-to-plant-trillion-trees-climate-change-natural-gas/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE (https://fortune.com/2023/07/18/house-republicans-want-to-plant-trillion-trees-climate-change-natural-gas/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE)

TL;DR - Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), who leads the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, in a hearing Thursday alleged that the Biden administration’s climate agenda was tackling "a problem that doesn’t exist."
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 July 2023, 16:59:51
https://fortune.com/2023/07/18/house-republicans-want-to-plant-trillion-trees-climate-change-natural-gas/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE (https://fortune.com/2023/07/18/house-republicans-want-to-plant-trillion-trees-climate-change-natural-gas/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE)

TL;DR - Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), who leads the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, in a hearing Thursday alleged that the Biden administration’s climate agenda was tackling "a problem that doesn’t exist."


We actually need 3-Trillion trees, and a moratorium on Animal Agriculture, which is the LEADING root cause of deforestation / Land use, and thus CLIMATE CHANGE.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 July 2023, 23:09:24
U.S. Forest Service trying to “secure the edge" (IN CANADA), quoted saying,  "there's no taming these wildfires now, they were too vast and too hot."

Did we ever have a chance?


(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Thu, 20 July 2023, 04:58:42
U.S. Forest Service trying to “secure the edge" (IN CANADA), quoted saying,  "there's no taming these wildfires now, they were too vast and too hot."

Did we ever have a chance?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)

Something about a bag of cheeto dust that keeps calling climate crisis a hoax?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 20 July 2023, 05:52:17
U.S. Forest Service trying to “secure the edge" (IN CANADA), quoted saying,  "there's no taming these wildfires now, they were too vast and too hot."

Did we ever have a chance?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)

Something about a bag of cheeto dust that keeps calling climate crisis a hoax?
All they had to do was rake their forests!
Maybe they can nuke them like we did those hurricanes.

Better yet, let's just redraw the maps with a Sharpie, then the fires will just move to a safe location.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Thu, 20 July 2023, 06:10:51
U.S. Forest Service trying to “secure the edge" (IN CANADA), quoted saying,  "there's no taming these wildfires now, they were too vast and too hot."

Did we ever have a chance?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)

Something about a bag of cheeto dust that keeps calling climate crisis a hoax?
All they had to do was rake their forests!
Maybe they can nuke them like we did those hurricanes.

Better yet, let's just redraw the maps with a Sharpie, then the fires will just move to a safe location.
Exactly!

On a related note, I always forget whether we need to nuke the whales or Japan to save on CO2 emissions because plankton either absorb or release an enormous amount of it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 20 July 2023, 06:26:06
Japan is already nvking the pacific. 400+ Tons of ground water in direct contact with the melted fvkv5hima cores is discharged into the ocean Every day.  This is incredibly rad1oa(tive water, MORE toxic than the stuff they're planning to dump.

400x4500 days since disaster, 1.8 Million tons.   The dissolved rad1onuc1ides then BIO accumulate up the marine food chain, highly toxic fish.

Try to avoid eating pacific fish, or buying japan cooking products (rice cookers), certainly avoid any japan grocery imports, rice/ fruits/ etc..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 20 July 2023, 11:28:12
ha ha

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Darthbaggins on Thu, 20 July 2023, 12:18:49
U.S. Forest Service trying to “secure the edge" (IN CANADA), quoted saying,  "there's no taming these wildfires now, they were too vast and too hot."

Did we ever have a chance?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)

Something about a bag of cheeto dust that keeps calling climate crisis a hoax?
All they had to do was rake their forests!
Maybe they can nuke them like we did those hurricanes.

Better yet, let's just redraw the maps with a Sharpie, then the fires will just move to a safe location.
Exactly!

On a related note, I always forget whether we need to nuke the whales or Japan to save on CO2 emissions because plankton either absorb or release an enormous amount of it.

Don't forget the Trees like it as well - that must be why the fires are most active in certain areas. .
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Fri, 21 July 2023, 01:37:53
ha ha
LOL xD
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 25 July 2023, 08:37:03
Antarctic sea ice  @ Record low.

"To say unprecedented isn't strong enough," Oceanographer, Dr. Edward Doddridge said.

"For those of you who are interested in statistics, this is a five-sigma event. So it's five standard deviations beyond the mean. Which means that if nothing had changed, we'd expect to see a winter like this about once every 7.5 million years."

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 July 2023, 05:53:46
The era of global warming has ended and "the era of global boiling has arrived", the UN secretary general, António Guterres

What do you guys think, should we subscribe to Soylent Green or Soylent Red ?

Red Probably tastes better since it's darker and closer to the original color of the base ingredient, therefore it's been less processed/bleached/dyed ?
(https://i.imgur.com/1uEw5z3.gif)



Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 28 July 2023, 08:11:06

should we subscribe to Soylent Green or Soylent Red?


In the original book, the world population had ballooned to 7 billion and the US had 344 million.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 29 July 2023, 10:30:06
Even Cactus-Br0s are dying... Saguaros.. largest cactus species in america.

This is the end !

Humans can not survive this....


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 29 July 2023, 11:51:34
It's not just the heat causing this, they could handle that.

The problem was the wet winter caused everything to grow and sprout in expectation of a wet monsoon season* to support it, that monsoon season hasn't arrived. It's not just the cactus, other wildlife also spiked, the Saguaros are just the most visible example and unlike the rest it will take decades for them to recover.

Plants and animals are usually pretty good at predicting and planning for the upcoming season but the weather has been so crazy they can't and this is what you get.


*Arizona gets wicked storms during monsoon season and sometimes mid-winter, usually a dust storm (haboob) then tons of rain, lightning, hail, 90+mph winds, etc.. It's every bit the crazy tropical storm you would expect to find on an island out in the ocean.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 01 August 2023, 13:39:51
California Nevada Border going up in major blaze, spawning Fire Whirls,  a vortex of Fire and Smoke when intense heat and turbulent wind combine creating a Spinning column of FIRE.

Sizes are highly variable, a few feet to hundreds of feet tall. Power lvl can reach that of an EF3 tornado.

Basically Sharknado but with Fire.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 02 August 2023, 06:19:41
Stanford AI predicts 1 in 2 chance Earth breaches 2 degrees Celsius by middle of this century, more than 4 in 5 chance by 2060.

We're sooooooooo screwwwwed.. Guaranteed that's still an underestimate because our assumption for CAUSES of climate change is thoroughly unaddressed,   ANIMAL AGRICULTURE
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 03 August 2023, 11:56:20
To me, leprosy was always something from the Old Times that modern science had long since made obsolete.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/8/22-0367_article (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/8/22-0367_article)
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 August 2023, 12:24:40
"A high percentage of unrelated leprosy cases in the southern United States were found to carry the same unique strain of M. leprae as nine-banded armadillos in the region, suggesting a strong likelihood of zoonotic transmission (4). A recent systematic review analyzing studies conducted during 1945–2019 supports an increasing role of anthroponotic and zoonotic transmission of leprosy"

YET AGAIN, zoonotic transfer, Stop messing with Animals.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Thu, 03 August 2023, 15:52:22
To me, leprosy was always something from the Old Times that modern science had long since made obsolete.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/8/22-0367_article (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/29/8/22-0367_article)
....WAT
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 August 2023, 07:49:59
According to sources,  Canada fire is ongoing at EX+ pace with no end in sight.  Incineration of 34 Million Acres so far.  The size of Arkansas, imagine all of that, FIRE, gone in less than 3 months.

Climate change is FAKE NEWS!


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 August 2023, 08:08:09

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/antarctic-sea-ice-winter-record-low-climate-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/antarctic-sea-ice-winter-record-low-climate-intl/index.html)

TL;DR "scientists said West Antarctica’s vast Thwaites Glacier – also known as the “Doomsday Glacier” – was “hanging on by its fingernails” as the planet warms."
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 August 2023, 08:23:55

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/antarctic-sea-ice-winter-record-low-climate-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/antarctic-sea-ice-winter-record-low-climate-intl/index.html)

TL;DR "scientists said West Antarctica’s vast Thwaites Glacier – also known as the “Doomsday Glacier” – was “hanging on by its fingernails” as the planet warms."
 

We're almost certainly going to blow through that. The world is NOT ready.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 August 2023, 08:29:56

The world is NOT ready.


I lived through a simple easy flood when I lived in Florida in the late-1970s (in a rented house).

Ever since then I have always lived on a hill.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 August 2023, 14:47:59
South America (Chile/ Argentina) just experianced a heatwave of 100F degrees in their Winter month.  Their august is equivalent of our february.  Completely unprecedented.

Non stop fake news. These countries are deep state liberal extremist liars/5g/magnet/laptops.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 August 2023, 18:14:37
The really important question for the US is whether there was gay porn on Hunter Biden's laptop. Global warming can wait.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 07 August 2023, 08:06:34
"Glacial Outburst" is a new term that I didn't even know ....

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/07/us/alaska-flooding-mendenhall-river-glacier/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/07/us/alaska-flooding-mendenhall-river-glacier/index.html)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 10 August 2023, 17:25:33
Maui, Hawaii residents jumping into the ocean to escape wildfire. This progression is deeply upsetting.

Diving into ocean from Maui's dry land intimates the idea that Earth is the sinking ship or a burning building from which Man would dangerously leap.

Tp4 is very upset by this sorrowful similitude.


But hey, eat meat, deforest 43% of earth's dry land to grow that meat (IPCC) The fossil fuel Republicans deny climate change outright, the Democrats only deny it through their actions to preserve the capitalist status quo, approve drilling contracts, and obstruct the IPCC from recommending people eat a plant based diet. This is the nature of our economics and its political implication.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 10 August 2023, 17:43:59
But hey, eat meat, deforest 43% of earth's dry land to grow that meat (IPCC) The fossil fuel Republicans deny climate change outright, the Democrats only deny it through their actions to preserve the capitalist status quo, approve drilling contracts, and obstruct the IPCC from recommending people eat a plant based diet. This is the nature of our economics and its political implication.
But if we don't eat them what will we do with all those cows?

More importantly,
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 10 August 2023, 17:55:58
But if we don't eat them what will we do with all those cows?

More importantly,
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?

If that's what it takes, Tp4 hereby relinquishes all his pudding privileges so LLann can now haz pudding before or after any meal.

The Cow in the room is ruining everything, and we put them there. sigh....
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 11 August 2023, 09:51:28
The Maui twitter videos are heart breaking, bodies on the streets, those who escaped fire but not its smoke. sigh.......
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 17 August 2023, 15:41:21
This is pretty absurd.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 August 2023, 15:44:49
Problem is, when it gets around high 80s or more my brain jelly stops working properly and I kinda short circuit. The heat literally makes me dumber and slower.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 18 August 2023, 12:02:28
Let's goh....!!

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 18 August 2023, 17:04:16
Here in Northern Europe, we've also had an unusual amount of rain in the past few weeks, causing flooding, rock/mudslides, collapsed bridges, collapsed or flooded roads, a derailed passenger train, ...

We're sooooooooo screwwwwed.. Guaranteed that's still an underestimate because our assumption for CAUSES of climate change is thoroughly unaddressed,   ANIMAL AGRICULTURE
• Land management, including plowing.
• Cement production.
• "Superpolluters" — Oil wells that just emit ridiculous amounts of natural gas instead of collecting it.

Animal agriculture is well known. But we'd need to put the arguing about going vegetarian vs. eating meat to the side for a minute, and start looking at what farmers should be doing to lower emissions from ruminants and animal dung.
If all animal farms took proper care of the dung they produced, that would go a long way.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 August 2023, 06:58:13
Most scary graph, updates, synopsis; so record much high..

(https://i.imgur.com/hVaXskJ.gif)
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 19 August 2023, 08:12:37
Most scary graph, updates, synopsis; so record much high..

Show Image
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 At this point every graph about climate change is scary...
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 August 2023, 08:13:19
Most scary graph, updates, synopsis; so record much high..

Show Image
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(Attachment Link)

 At this point every graph about climate change is scary...

(https://i.imgur.com/qRhszdm.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 19 August 2023, 14:22:23

At this point


No greater blunder ever made than when, in 2000, the US Supreme Court made the oil man president in preference to the environmentalist.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 19 August 2023, 17:15:29
No greater blunder ever made than when, in 2000, the US Supreme Court made the oil man president in preference to the environmentalist.
In 1992, his father was about to go to Rio and sign the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which in its form called for signatories binding agreements for actual reductions in CO₂ emissions.
Then he got a call from an old buddie in the oil industry ...

This led to the US demanding that any actual commitments be removed from the treaty.
And so they were.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 August 2023, 17:26:52
No greater blunder ever made than when, in 2000, the US Supreme Court made the oil man president in preference to the environmentalist.
In 1992, his father was about to go to Rio and sign the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which in its form called for signatories binding agreements for actual reductions in CO₂ emissions.
Then he got a call from an old buddie in the oil industry ...

This led to the US demanding that any actual commitments be removed from the treaty.
And so they were.

I'm glad you guys are on the right side of the fence,  but keep in mind, OIL is a important but a SMALL fraction of what contributes to climate change.

Animal agriculture uses 43% of the earth surface to produce only 12% of the food we eat.

Fishing destroys 2.4 BILLION acres of underwater habitat through bottom trawling with 90 mile long nets, EVERY YEAR.  This is 1.25x the size of Australia, or the size of the Entire United states + Alaska.   THIS in turn only produces 3% of the food we eat.

Animal agriculture is responsible for at least 83% of the green house gasses, when land use, nitrogen, methane and the deficit of trees is taken into account.


Plant Food is grown on 12% of the earths surface, 6% is animal feed, 3% is biofuel,  3% is PLANT FOODS that we actually eat

This 3% accounts for 85% of all the food humans eat.

By choosing to eat meat, we are actively making the choice to destroy the planet. 


IPCC
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 21 August 2023, 05:35:48
What happens when you have to evacuate 20,000 people from yellowknife, and extend disruption for a few months.

Even if we conservatively say, every person uses up $2000 worth of supplies, $5000 worth of productivity loss. That's $140 Million dollars.

Then factor in the un-utilized equipment / capital on the ground,   the damage is well into the $Billions even if no one died,  if they die, that's conservatively $250,000 to 1 million per person.

If the fire takes out the city, oh boy, 100s of $billions


Ontop of the 20k being evacuated, an additional 35k are on evacuation (alert).


This is why insurance companies are pulling out, the damages will be impossible to cover.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 21 August 2023, 07:45:32

This is why insurance companies are pulling out, the damages will be impossible to cover.


I foresee an epic restructuring (re-conceptualizing?) of the insurance industry in coming years. My greatest fear is that my side ("the Left") will allow itself to get sucked into an ever-increasing death spiral of providing "re-insurance" as actual insurance companies bail out of climate-sensitive areas in droves.

Pulling people out of the water is a reasonable expectation for a governmental agency, but paying to rebuild their houses is absolutely not a viable governmental function, in my opinion.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 23 August 2023, 08:22:33
When they say 800 people missing in maui fai, do they mean they all burned to death, or are they just displaced and are on the other islands?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 August 2023, 11:36:34
No New Normal ?

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 August 2023, 14:40:44
Swear to god, accuweather is just making these numbers up now. wth ??

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 24 August 2023, 16:22:16
In my neighbourhood in Sweden, flowers are in bloom ... as if it was May again. Weird.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 25 August 2023, 06:18:18
Between 7000-10,000 Emperor-penguin chicks have perished due to record low sea-ice during a critical period when they have not shed their floofy feathers and could not properly swim. Scientists posit in all likelihood they drowned due to the waterlogged outer coat. Satellite image confirms 2 large colonies were no longer present, all water.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
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Climate change isn't real. /Florida

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 30 August 2023, 17:48:13

Florida


I recommend that people who are wanting to see Florida do it sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 31 August 2023, 17:59:54

Florida


I recommend that people who are wanting to see Florida do it sooner rather than later.


You're a liar,  that water is supposed to be over the river. God says use boats instead of cars.

Learn to swim you damn socialist.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 31 August 2023, 18:05:31
I recommend that people who are wanting to see Florida do it sooner rather than later.

And Venice and all the low lying areas as well.


You're a liar,  that water is supposed to be over the river. God says use boats instead of cars.

Learn to swim you damn socialist.


I mean God didn't ask noah to make a car, so he always was saying that I guess...
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 31 August 2023, 19:26:45
And Venice and all the low lying areas as well.


Venice had this moldy smell.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 01 September 2023, 02:37:17
I made sure to visit Venice while it was possible. There, I learned that Venice got flooded regularly, and they had hourly flooding forecasts. I planned my day to visit St Marcus square in the morning, while workers were deploying raised walkways in preparation for when the place was going to be flooded in the afternoon.
At least Venice is low and flat, being flooded gently by the sea broken by large sand banks a distance away, not subject to roaring rivers breaking its boundaries and sweeping houses with it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Fri, 01 September 2023, 02:47:34
I made sure to visit Venice while it was possible. There, I learned that Venice got flooded regularly, and they had hourly flooding forecasts. I planned my day to visit St Marcus square in the morning, while workers were deploying raised walkways in preparation for when the place was going to be flooded in the afternoon.
At least Venice is low and flat, being flooded gently by the sea broken by large sand banks a distance away, not subject to roaring rivers breaking its boundaries and sweeping houses with it.

The thing is with venice is that when I would want to visit it might just be flooded so most likely I will never visit venice, plus not enough money to go everywhere so have to pick and choose.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 01 September 2023, 04:35:20
The thing is with venice is that when I would want to visit it might just be flooded so most likely I will never visit venice, plus not enough money to go everywhere so have to pick and choose.
I visited it only briefly during a two-week trip on a European rail pass.Travelling that way made it relatively affordable per city, and the rail pass itself does not require a fixed itinerary (but hotels and seat reservations often need to be booked in advance, which I did, for comfort).
But of course it also helped that I had started in Europe in the first place.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 September 2023, 05:58:09
I made sure to visit Venice while it was possible. There, I learned that Venice got flooded regularly, and they had hourly flooding forecasts. I planned my day to visit St Marcus square in the morning, while workers were deploying raised walkways in preparation for when the place was going to be flooded in the afternoon.
At least Venice is low and flat, being flooded gently by the sea broken by large sand banks a distance away, not subject to roaring rivers breaking its boundaries and sweeping houses with it.

With Climate Change they've had the opposite problem lately, too little water. The river bed started to smell like rotting sewage ontop of the regular moldiness.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 September 2023, 21:05:16
MIT Press:

The ocean is changing colors, the rate meets and exceeds models which predict anthropogenic impact on ocean coloration which is a reflection (refraction) of its internal biome.

That is to say, we're mucking it up.

When a human holds his breath, he turn blue.

The ocean, this body of water is the blood of the earth, it's not there by accident, it is the working fluid, which all LIFE on the planet depends on to carry out essential processes. This liquid is maintained and ONLY EXISTS because of a biometric balance/ contract between ALL living organisms on this planet, from bacteria to trees to whale.

Humanity has significantly distorted, overstepped our ecological role.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 02 September 2023, 04:43:17
Many people are unaware that it is algae in the ocean that does most of the photosynthesis of carbon dioxide to oxygen.
Not that plants on land aren't important.

But both forests and oceans have operational limits both in carbon dioxide level and temperatur, at which their ability to process carbon dioxide will be severely diminished.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 02 September 2023, 05:48:55
Many people are unaware that it is algae in the ocean that does most of the photosynthesis of carbon dioxide to oxygen.
Not that plants on land aren't important.

But both forests and oceans have operational limits both in carbon dioxide level and temperatur, at which their ability to process carbon dioxide will be severely diminished.

Yup,  we're destroying the entire ocean on a scale far greater than even our wanton rain-forest burning to raise cattle.

85% of the food we eat comes from PLANTS, it is grown on 6% of the dry surface of the earth.

12% is beef pork chicken, cattles,  using 43% of the dry earth surface.

3% is fish, bottom trawling using 90 mile long drag nets, destroying 4 Billion acres underwater. Out of sight, out of mind.

The vast majority of the fish caught are Bycatch, including dolphin, whale, non-target fish, these are thrown overboard, DEAD.

80-99% of all sharks have been killed as the result of bycatch.

90 mile long drag nets, the area larger than the continental US every year.

Commercial fishing kills 2.7 TRILLION fish every year.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 06 September 2023, 18:50:28
Watched a video about cultural burning, something used by the indigenous population of Australia.

It's where you burn certain parts of the environment at certain times. Similar to backburning but with more of an understanding of the land and when we should do it. It helps reduce forest fires while minimising damage and allowing the flora of Australia should grow more. The way they do it is quite interesting, the elders in the video have such a comprehensive understanding of the environment and where to burn. Think more countries (including Australia) should learn about the environment and to properly backburn to prevent the massively insane fires that do so much damage to the natural fauna and flora.   

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 06 September 2023, 19:33:31
Watched a video about cultural burning, something used by the indigenous population of Australia.

It's where you burn certain parts of the environment at certain times. Similar to backburning but with more of an understanding of the land and when we should do it. It helps reduce forest fires while minimising damage and allowing the flora of Australia should grow more. The way they do it is quite interesting, the elders in the video have such a comprehensive understanding of the environment and where to burn. Think more countries (including Australia) should learn about the environment and to properly backburn to prevent the massively insane fires that do so much damage to the natural fauna and flora.   

The Indigenous Indians of America which we genocided to become the United States also have Brush burns.  They understood it with more mysticism, but the effect is the same as this Australian Cultural Burn.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 06 September 2023, 23:33:23
The Indigenous Indians of America which we genocided to become the United States also have Brush burns.  They understood it with more mysticism, but the effect is the same as this Australian Cultural Burn.

Oh that's pretty interesting. It's sad how we take care of our planet less now than we were doing for thousands of years before. And the people who knew the most about their environment were killed and oppressed by people who had no regard for the land that these people inhabited.

I remember environmentalists were telling the sydney government to just back burn so potential fires don't spread out of control and the they were like piss off in 2018-2019. Look where that got us...
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 07 September 2023, 08:54:27
We are so accustomed to houses and roads that we forget a world that is mostly wooded. I imagine that a significant part of it was just to clear out obstructions.

Would you enjoy walking around near-naked through an ocean of sticker bushes? And even at that, today we have good sharp steel machetes.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 13 October 2023, 11:15:07
Here we are.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 October 2023, 18:06:58
Barber shop chat today.  We're sleepwalking into oblivion, the average human is so clueless, it hurts.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Wed, 18 October 2023, 07:43:27
Barber shop chat today.  We're sleepwalking into oblivion, the average human is so clueless, it hurts.

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tp4 should run for political offices
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 October 2023, 08:24:52

run for political office


Al Gore, my Senator from Tennessee at the time, wrote a bestseller, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/104286.Earth_in_the_Balance (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/104286.Earth_in_the_Balance) , over 30 years ago - and look where it got him.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Wed, 18 October 2023, 08:27:04
tru **** is rigged.
whoever benefits the rich most is who gets elected usually... how convenient
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 October 2023, 08:35:25

benefits the rich most is who gets elected usually


They can only influence people who believe what they hear on TV.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 18 October 2023, 17:38:30
tru **** is rigged.

In the case of al gore it was the most blatant rigging of an election, like they cause a riot in order to stop votes being counted, which would've favoured gore and made him win.

Also funny how just 20 years ago, florida was a swing state leaning towards democrat.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 05 January 2024, 16:41:42
What is wrong with this picture?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 January 2024, 17:26:35
The straw that breaks the camel's back.

We're in the snap now.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Tue, 09 January 2024, 06:43:34
What is wrong with this picture?

idk this looks like a scientific drawing of a tide pod
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 January 2024, 12:45:30
Climate change linked to spread of diarrhoeal illness: temperature, day length and humidity have been found to be linked to the increased spread of a diarrhoeal illness

Sigh..... here we go.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 22 January 2024, 06:42:56
Climate change linked to spread of diarrhoeal illness: temperature, day length and humidity have been found to be linked to the increased spread of a diarrhoeal illness

Sigh..... here we go.


Seasonal diarrhea
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 12 February 2024, 07:28:07
ah do u guys think we'll be able to like, live a full normal life or will the world go to **** before then
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 February 2024, 07:48:38
It won't be like it is now. If you think back to 1930s worth of conveniences and resources, it'll be something like that for a while if we SURVIVE at all.

At worst, we'll be back to the stone age within a few months.  All our reactors would've melted down because they only have a week or 2 of diesel backup for the cooling pools and pumps.  It's the equivalent of up to 10,000x chernobyls worth of radiation going up into the atmosphere in a very short time.   The northern hemisphere will lose most large animals.

It would've been nice to do the whole, sunny camping movies, without zombies, and the happy looking tribes, but that is 100% certain not possible when we've already poisoned our world with nuclear.

I suspect, LIFE will survive and can reset in a few million years, but it's unlikely that humanity would survive.

There are calculations that say most children born today are unlikely to live to adulthood when climate change hits the fan.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 12 February 2024, 08:30:22
It won't be like it is now. If you think back to 1930s worth of conveniences and resources, it'll be something like that for a while if we SURVIVE at all.

At worst, we'll be back to the stone age within a few months.  All our reactors would've melted down because they only have a week or 2 of diesel backup for the cooling pools and pumps.  It's the equivalent of up to 10,000x chernobyls worth of radiation going up into the atmosphere in a very short time.   The northern hemisphere will lose most large animals.

It would've been nice to do the whole, sunny camping movies, without zombies, and the happy looking tribes, but that is 100% certain not possible when we've already poisoned our world with nuclear.

I suspect, LIFE will survive and can reset in a few million years, but it's unlikely that humanity would survive.

There are calculations that say most children born today are unlikely to live to adulthood when climate change hits the fan.


without zombies??? are u implying we're gonna have zombies? lol
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 12 February 2024, 09:12:33

It won't be like it is now.


A large portion of the world's population lives near the ocean, and you should expect the sea level to rise a couple of meters in your lifetime.

Global warming will dramatically alter agriculture and where and when food resources can be grown and harvested. Seafood, especially large pelagic fishes, will become precious.

Populations of plants and animals will collapse and diversity will shrink considerably. Hopefully, a significant amount of wild nature can be preserved in pockets around the world ....

Wild temperature swings will be common as atmospheric and ocean currents that have reliably conveyed heat around the globe for eons falter and become unpredictable.

And don't forget that the sun occasionally erupts in gigantic flares of radiation, and that we have not seen once since the dawn of the "electric age" a century ago.

These were "standard" predictions for dystopian writing in the past, and assumed to be possibilities for the distant future. But that future is rapidly (abruptly?) appearing before our eyes, and yet huge swaths of the population remain in denial. I may or may not live to see Miami under water, but, like you, my children will see enormous change.

It will not be possible to escape the problems altogether, but you should carefully consider where to live your life, and ensure that it is a region that is less prone to the "great" catastrophes such as floods, fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes (and why aren't we seeing more of these yet? Global Warming must be causing the crust of the Earth to expand, and I would have guessed that there would be more cracks .... ) I am tired of making myself sick so I will stop typing this list.

The human race has been a colossal  FAIL  in its responsibility for the stewardship of the planet.

I have maintained my sanity throughout my life by keeping an attitude of optimism and avoiding cynicism as much as possible, but it has been getting stretched thin in recent years. There are generally 2 schools of thought: (1) everything is going to hell so I have to grab as much as I can while I still have the chance, and (2) we are all in this together and only by cooperation can the problems of the world be ameliorated. I have always been in group 2. I believe that we can only "feel good about ourselves" under this principle and it is the only way to live a good life, in my opinion. People in group 1 will always feel empty inside.
 
But you have to play the cards that you are dealt.

ps - never dwell on the past or fret over what could have been, even though humans have been fantasizing over "time machines" for centuries - don't waste your time!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 12 February 2024, 09:16:11

It won't be like it is now.


A large portion of the world's population lives near the ocean, and you should expect the sea level to rise a couple of meters in your lifetime.

Global warming will dramatically alter agriculture and where and when food resources can be grown and harvested. Seafood, especially large pelagic fishes, will become precious.

Populations of plants and animals will collapse and diversity will shrink considerably. Hopefully, a significant amount of wild nature can be preserved in pockets around the world ....

Wild temperature swings will be common as atmospheric and ocean currents that have reliably conveyed heat around the globe for eons falter and become unpredictable.

And don't forget that the sun occasionally erupts in gigantic flares of radiation, and that we have not seen once since the dawn of the "electric age" a century ago.

These were "standard" predictions for dystopian writing in the past, and assumed to be possibilities for the distant future. But that future is rapidly (abruptly?) appearing before our eyes, and yet huge swaths of the population remain in denial. I may or may not live to see Miami under water, but, like you, my children will see enormous change.

It will not be possible to escape the problems altogether, but you should carefully consider where to live your life, and ensure that it is a region that is less prone to the "great" catastrophes such as floods, fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes (and why aren't we seeing more of these yet? Global Warming must be causing the crust of the Earth to expand, and I would have guessed that there would be more cracks .... ) I am tired of making myself sick so I will stop typing this list.

The human race has been a colossal  FAIL  in its responsibility for the stewardship of the planet.

I have maintained my sanity throughout my life by keeping an attitude of optimism and avoiding cynicism as much as possible, but it has been getting stretched thin in recent years. There are generally 2 schools of thought: (1) everything is going to hell so I have to grab as much as I can while I still have the chance, and (2) we are all in this together and only by cooperation can the problems of the world be ameliorated. I have always been in group 2. I believe that we can only "feel good about ourselves" under this principle and it is the only way to live a good life, in my opinion. People in group 1 will always feel empty inside.
 
But you have to play the cards that you are dealt.

ps - never dwell on the past or fret over what could have been, even though humans have been fantasizing over "time machines" for centuries - don't waste your time!

i feel lucky that my area has been called a "climate haven". i hate my boring city but I've never been in a natural disaster or anything so that's cool
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Mon, 12 February 2024, 15:16:11
The human race has been a colossal  FAIL  in its responsibility for the stewardship of the planet.

I have maintained my sanity throughout my life by keeping an attitude of optimism and avoiding cynicism as much as possible, but it has been getting stretched thin in recent years. There are generally 2 schools of thought: (1) everything is going to hell so I have to grab as much as I can while I still have the chance, and (2) we are all in this together and only by cooperation can the problems of the world be ameliorated. I have always been in group 2. I believe that we can only "feel good about ourselves" under this principle and it is the only way to live a good life, in my opinion. People in group 1 will always feel empty inside.
 
But you have to play the cards that you are dealt.

ps - never dwell on the past or fret over what could have been, even though humans have been fantasizing over "time machines" for centuries - don't waste your time!


yeah I agree with you about collective action is the only solution to fix everything, the only problem currently is that boomers as whole are the most entitled and complacent generation alive that still has power in a lot of countries, and that results in barely any to 0 progress, we do need younger people in power who actually care about the future of the planet, but boomers are so selfish they won't wanna give up that power, which is why they haven't done age limits/term limits in the us at least.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 12 February 2024, 16:42:06

boomers as whole are the most entitled and complacent generation alive that still has power in a lot of countries

we do need younger people in power who actually care about the future of the planet

why they haven't done age limits/term limits in the us at least.


As an archetypical Baby Boomer (born when the rulers of the world were Truman, Churchill, and Stalin) I feel compelled to protest part of this characterization.

From my perspective, the tail end of my generation and (at least) the first half of the next most closely fit your description. Those of us who came of age in "The Space Age" came up in an era of exhilaration and optimism, while (in the US at least) those immediately behind us who awakened into the post-Vietnam, post-Nixon age of miasma and cynicism. In my opinion, in general, people born between the early-1960s and the mid-late-1980s are the ones who are the most cynical and pessimistic.

Age and term limits are not a panacea in the US because of the absurd and arcane political system that our Founders saddled us with. Although our original documents are generally excellent and perhaps some of the premier examples of the "Age of Enlightenment" they are also riddled with "poison pills" and concessions to the slave states which evolved up to today, and, in particular, give small states inordinate power.

It takes tremendous experience and skill to navigate that labyrinth, and is why President Biden, in spite of his age, has been able to accomplish monumental gains in a wide variety of venues. Possibly the greatest dis-information we see in the US today is pretending that Biden has not been a masterful leader who has made great advances across the board. And never forget that his "Inflation Reduction Act" was really a HUGE climate change plan.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 12 February 2024, 17:09:30
Feb is not even over yet, and the trees are starting to bloom and the spring creatures are coming out already.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 12 February 2024, 17:51:08
ah do u guys think we'll be able to like, live a full normal life or will the world go to **** before then
It's estimated our population will peak at 10Bil and crash to 2Bil.

Are you rich?
If not you won't live a full normal life. This and old folks are a big part of the problem, the old don't want to change and the rich can just buy their way out of a lot of it (or at least they think they can, no Elon, fleeing to Mars is not going to be better).

Sh*t's about to get real.
You aren't going to shed 80% of the population in a few decades without some insanity.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 12 February 2024, 18:09:04
ah do u guys think we'll be able to like, live a full normal life or will the world go to **** before then
It's estimated our population will peak at 10Bil and crash to 2Bil.

Are you rich?
If not you won't live a full normal life. This and old folks are a big part of the problem, the old don't want to change and the rich can just buy their way out of a lot of it (or at least they think they can, no Elon, fleeing to Mars is not going to be better).

Sh*t's about to get real.
You aren't going to shed 80% of the population in a few decades without some insanity.

I think once people in their 40's and 50s now realize they will never be able retire. Most younger people already have succumbed to working and struggling for the rest of their life with no retirement. Kids under 25 are so broken and depressed, and they do not have the tools to deal with small issues, so I'm constantly seeing younger people not be able to handle small situations or when one little thing goes wrong in their day, they just lose their **** like it is the end of everything. I suppose the numbness to that will come with age.

I expect suicide rates to keep increasing in the next few decades and people continuing to ignore that issue, although I am surprised drinking and drug use has gone down amongst young people.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 12 February 2024, 20:48:33
I am surprised drinking and drug use has gone down amongst young people.
They can't afford it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 12 February 2024, 21:09:59
I am surprised drinking and drug use has gone down amongst young people.
They can't afford it.

I see a general push towards healthy lifestyles with teen-twenty somethings. A good percentage of them regularly go to the gym or workout, a huge percentage vape but analogue smoking is rare. But they are also severely stressed out. I know multiple people in their early-mid 20s who are on blood pressure meds, and one guy had a stroke at 22.


I also apologize for my reflective tone lately. As I rapidly approach middle age I've never felt older and more separated from those I considered my peers. You never think you will be the older person at work, then you turn around and you ****in' are.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 13 February 2024, 08:27:10

I also apologize for my reflective tone lately. As I rapidly approach middle age I've never felt older and more separated from those I considered my peers. You never think you will be the older person at work, then you turn around and you ****in' are.


I hear you. I will be 72 this year, my 7th Year of the Dragon. Life is not fun when you are cynical, "Don't Worry, Be Happy"
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 13 February 2024, 17:47:56
A good percentage of them regularly go to the gym or workout, a huge percentage vape
Going to be useless if their lungs are trashed by 30.
Vaping is going to be as big of an issue as smoking and alcohol have been as these people age, probably way worse as people see it as less dangerous (highly doubtful), every bit as addictive and most treat it like candy (especially when it's candy flavored).

With alcohol and cigarettes you see how much you're using and can take stock of it, vape, they just consume without any direct indication of how much until it runs out of juice. It's almost like a bottomless drink or pack of cigarettes. There's no way that isn't going to lead to problems later.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Wed, 14 February 2024, 06:43:32
I am surprised drinking and drug use has gone down amongst young people.
They can't afford it.

I see a general push towards healthy lifestyles with teen-twenty somethings. A good percentage of them regularly go to the gym or workout, a huge percentage vape but analogue smoking is rare. But they are also severely stressed out. I know multiple people in their early-mid 20s who are on blood pressure meds, and one guy had a stroke at 22.


I also apologize for my reflective tone lately. As I rapidly approach middle age I've never felt older and more separated from those I considered my peers. You never think you will be the older person at work, then you turn around and you ****in' are.
im 17 and theres been a serious bubble in kids my age (especially males) working out and pursuing a more fit lifestyle. with the popularity of memes like zyzz and "mogging" (idk if you're too old to know what that is lol) i think theree are a lot more kids my age working out. the downside is that theres also been a lot of younger people taking steroids and performance enhancers

id say a good 70-80% of my classmates are still blazed out of their minds in homeroom though.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 February 2024, 09:00:25
I was extremely fortunate to have come up at the tail end of the "old world" where I received an excellent education in the public school system (including rigorous phys ed at least 3 days per week through high school (and the first 2 years of college)) and generally stayed healthy and fit without much extra effort (until my mid-30s). My mother prepared our meals from scratch with mostly fresh ingredients, and I strived to continue to do that with my children.

Growing up in a mid-sized city in "Middle America" and being in the "good kids" circle I graduated from high school having never seen or smelled marijuana. Nor did I drink or do anything else illicit until I got to college. We got a color TV in the mid-1960s for the family, but I did not get a TV for myself until my last year in college. Needless to say, I have been a voracious reader my entire life. Our kids were avid readers until they got their (gasp) "smart" phones at age 12.

My ex-wife and I did everything we could to bring our kids up in as similar and protected an environment as possible, and I think that we generally succeeded as much as can be accomplished in the age of the interwebs - which is to say not "not nearly as much" as we wanted.

ps - you know that you are getting old when your kids start saying "I just don't know about the kids these days .... "
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Wed, 14 February 2024, 09:10:18
I was extremely fortunate to have come up at the tail end of the "old world" where I received an excellent education in the public school system (including rigorous phys ed at least 3 days per week through high school (and the first 2 years of college)) and generally stayed healthy and fit without much extra effort. My mother prepared our meals from scratch with mostly fresh ingredients.

Growing up in a mid-sized city in "Middle America" and being in the "good kids" circle I graduated from high school having never seen or smelled marijuana. Nor did I drink or do anything else illicit until I got to college. We got a color TV in the mid-1960s for the family, but I did not get a TV for myself until my last year in college. Needless to say, I have been a voracious reader my entire life.

My ex-wife and I did everything we could to bring our kids up in as similar an environment as possible, and I think that we generally succeeded as much as can be accomplished in the age of the interwebs - which is to say not "not nearly as much" as we wanted.

You know that you are getting old when your kids start saying "I just don't know about the kids these days .... "

I know that every generation has been saying this since the beginning of time but I seriously do think kids these days are mostly awful lol. my school building is high school and middle school in one building so I have first-hand experience since I'm interacting with middle schoolers daily and there's just a clear cutoff where the kids are just so disrespectful and out of touch. even my teachers talk about how terrible they are. ik its not right to say this about a literal child but they just aren't good people. hopefully, they grow out of it but I don't know man
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 February 2024, 09:47:19

kids these days are mostly awful


I did not realize it at the time, and managed to graduate out shortly before it really started to take effect, but immediately after Brown vs Board of Education there began an insidious and profoundly cynical effort to degrade the youth of America by corroding the educational system, espoused by people like James McGill Buchanan and Lewis Powell, to name 2 of the most infamous.

Another thing that has had an extremely deleterious effect is that religion, in general, rather than progressing and evolving to meet the needs of a changing world, has been backsliding into its most stupid expressions of miasma and fundamentalism. Children are fleeing organized religion in droves, for good reason, but there are few easy destinations to provide them refuge. Some of us have spent our lifetimes contemplating our spiritual place in the universe, but that is neither simple nor quickly realized. Read about the Founding Fathers and you understand that they already recognized that the religions of their day were moribund and they knew full well that the wall of separation between church and state was essential to creating a successful nation.

The one-word solution to righting the wrongs of the world is "co-operation" but that is anathema to exploiters, who thrive on chaos.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 February 2024, 09:54:21
The one-word solution to righting the wrongs of the world is "co-operation" but that is anathema to exploiters, who thrive on chaos.

Tp4 has thought about this good guy , bad guy  situation for a long while. If bad guys were entirely deleterious, nature would not allow for their continued existence.  That is to say, Cancer must have an evolutionary purpose.

We can't say with absolute certainty that Exploitation is without purpose.  Because of intra-humanity bandwidth limit, Any realistic control system will produce waste heat.

At this point, yes, we agree, that waste heat is too excessive, and we probably will not survive the next 50 years. But, it's important not to get into the mindset that if we SIMPLY snapped our fingers, and got rid of all the, PEOPLE WE DON'T LIKE,   it would be a better world.

Idiocy has something to teach us, even if reduced to the point of how not to be idiots.

Annex -- Tp4 would like to believe that the value of Idiocy is in mental stability. It's unlikely our hardware/software brain side is designed to manage the problems modern humans face, such situations create undue stress on the system,  SOME QUANTITY, of deliberate ignorance is necessary to balance that load.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 14 February 2024, 16:15:47
Selfishness and entitlement are two narratives being heavily pushed right now. The carrot of 'easy money fast' is dangled via the lens of social media, and people are no longer living together. It is more of an inconvenience that you are in their world, and everyone thinks they are the main character.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 14 February 2024, 16:52:55

everyone thinks they are the main character.


aka everyone imagines that he is God

Once I began to conceptualize the Planet Earth as a single living organism, it "changed everything" for me.

Putting on blinders to focus on accumulating wealth and/or power almost certainly vacuums up much of the time and effort that could be used to enjoy life, love, art, music, literature, and anything else that actually makes you feel good.

What makes you feel good about yourself, and about life in general?

Do more of THAT. You might find that it involves enjoying life along with other people.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 25 February 2024, 12:21:20
Thwaites glacier holds 65 cm of sea level rise.

This past week:

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 25 February 2024, 15:21:20
Thwaites glacier holds 65 cm of sea level rise.

This past week:

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 26 February 2024, 14:14:51
Mexico City, already doing Fury Road.  Don't get addicted to water. 

Crisis point estimate 4 months. 

They are already rationing, 2 days of tap water at a time, here and there, then none.

Ontop of,  Sinking @ a rate of 20 inch a year, due to overextraction of the aquifer. They're built on wet clay. The spanish were morons.  The Aztecs they killed off knew how to build and work with the water, canals, drainage, etc.  The spanish came, drained the water, and essentially created all the flood and parch problems that Mexico City has today.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 28 February 2024, 16:37:14
Here today it went from 70F/21C to 45F/7C in 8 hours.

ps - that was during daylight hours

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 February 2024, 16:46:05
It only takes a few crop failures, and then, Fury Road.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 February 2024, 22:30:11
There' gon' be mega storms this year for sure.

One should prepare for the overwhelming moist.

We have 4 months left to prepare.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Thu, 29 February 2024, 06:52:19
Here today it went from 70F/21C to 45F/7C in 8 hours.
it was warm yesterday and then this morning there's ice and snow everywhere lol
this is normal for my area tho to be honest
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 11 March 2024, 10:37:11
They tested placentas, yup, found microplastic.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a46993585/microplastics-human-placenta/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Tue, 12 March 2024, 06:42:51
They tested placentas, yup, found microplastic.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a46993585/microplastics-human-placenta/
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 March 2024, 10:34:07
If you live in the Philippines, /Move. Losses are already projected @ 3% of GDP in the Philippines.

Projections across the board for all countries may increase to 7-10% mid-century if nothing is done, as is currently the case..

Why move, why not stay and fight, because the problems aren't caused by the phillipines population, even if they did everything right, we americans will (likely) produce enough ecological strain to wipe out climate sensitive nations.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Tue, 12 March 2024, 16:27:02
I know that many people are concerned about the state of our planet, specifically our oceans,  and many of those people are angry about what they feel is an anemic response to this so-called crisis. Not being a research scientist or climatologist, I have little to add to that discussion. I often hear anecdotes about novel crises that spawn even more stories of disaster and doom, but a quick search of the worst hurricane disasters in history suggest that we’re not hearing a balanced representation of the effects of the climate change we are now experiencing.

Living in the US, my first search was to find the deadliest hurricanes in US history. Here’s what I found
 https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/articles/deadliest-us-hurricanes
Anyone reading this data will probably be surprised that 93% of hurricane deaths (23,176) occurred during the first half of the recorded history of US hurricane deaths (1856-1940). A relatively small 2635 deaths occurred from 1940 to present. If we consider the population of the US in the first half to be roughly one third of the population in the second, the contrast is even more apparent. This doesn't seem to correspond with greenhouse gas levels which, I'm told, have been rising since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution.

A similar search of global hurricane deaths and destruction also leave the waters of analysis murky at best.
https://www.ranker.com/list/10-biggest-deadliest-most-destructive-hurricane_s-ever-/jeff419
There seems to be little that can be plotted by this data. The hurricanes intensity don’t seem to be directly related to the lost lives and damage numbers. Perhaps one short to long time solution is to be wiser about building in areas subject to potential climate change damage.

I don’t mean to take too lightly environmental changes but I think there is a more imminent danger in ignoring other factors which affect the inhabitants of this big sphere that we all call home. In California where I live, we are currently enjoying an almost perfect climate but that is rarely mentioned in climate discussions. The cyclical and predictable drought we had is gone, and rain and snow has filled our reservours to near capacity. Intelligent infrastructure improvements would allow our depleted aquifers to be replenished if we had the funds that have been committed to other needs. Unfortunately, California is leading the way as environmental crusaders and it is costing Californians dearly in its strident march for a "cause" that is having an insignificant or no positive effect in California or the rest of the world.

The gas the rest of the States are paying $3.50 for is costing us $5.00. We enjoy the privilege of giving Sacramento among the highest income and sales tax rates in the nation. As a former business owner, I know how onerous the excessive regulations and red tape are here. Anyone wondering why 78,000 tech jobs left The Golden State last year have only to look at its policies. This year the projected budget shortfall mess will cost each man, woman and child an extra $1,500 to clean up. If you’re a starving student with $75,000 in school debt, will you be able to pay your share? There is even talk of adding a tax if you move out of the state. Sounds almost like a debtors’s prison.  How can something like this happen in a State that has the best weather, great natural harbors, a great location for trade, an abundance of natural resources and almost endless fertile land?

The answer is clear: trying to do too much too quickly. Reasonable changes are good. Well meaning but poorly thought out plans will likely fail. I bring up California because it is a bellwether for the rest of the world. If California can fail, so can your state or country. Unfortunately, as California goes, so goes the rest of the US. Take a look at our national debt clock.    https://www.usdebtclock.org/    While we study changes in oceans that are measured in inches over decades, the US economy is collapsing at a rate of two million dollars a minute. Money isn't everything, unless you don't have any. Talk about an existential threat!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 March 2024, 16:35:52
@ kurploplo,  the reason most deaths are concentrated earlier is because today we have early warning and better built structures that follow a storm code.

2023, a single flood killed 11,000-20,000 people in Libya. Biblical no? (no advanced warning, no technology for storm structure)

Cost of living is a number they can change, it looks bad, but it's just greed, all money is printed.

The 1.5C Paris target is already completely unattainable, we're looking at projections between 2.5 - 5 C,   This is HELL ON EARTH.  This is beyond greed, this is endemic stupidity.

Anyone around 30yrs old right now will likely witness the very last decade of mankind.

The economic system is an incomplete model which does not price in externalities, which include everything we arbitrarily don't want to count, pollution, biodiversity loss, forest loss, climate heating etc. It is precisely these glaring omission which presses on the imminent collapse that's already well under way.

If you want to see numbers at work, look how large insurance has pulled out of most climate sensitive states. These corporations take real accounting for those losses generated by externalities absent from the main system.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Tue, 12 March 2024, 17:04:29
You make my point. It is our responsibility to adapt to changes that we cannot control. You give two good examples. Early warning systems and an inability to get insurance which will reduce the number of structures built in harms way.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 12 March 2024, 17:11:41
You make my point. It is our responsibility to adapt to changes that we cannot control. You give two good examples. Early warning systems and an inability to get insurance which will reduce the number of structures built in harms way.

We can control it, but we (likely) won't. Our current economic system only considers exploitation and destruction of nature profitable.  A piece of land saved, a tree not cut, a fish not killed, has no economic value.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 17 March 2024, 06:49:28
Could we please consider the ice. Seriously, we're losing it.  Estimates now up to 5 meters by end of century.

"The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet (3m) in as little as 50 years. "

https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/03/15/greenland-cascading-30-million-tons-per-hour/

You can see here, NOAA only models up to 3 meters in this very cool graphics tool.  Don't buy any property in Florida.


https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/#/layer/slr/10/-9027583.562760174/3172853.1482205153/7/satellite/none/0.8/2050/interHigh/midAccretion

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 March 2024, 08:21:30

Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates


I have been going on about this for years.

For once I strongly agree with TP4

Many times I have said that if you want to see Miami, get down there soon.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 17 March 2024, 09:18:41
According to the article, we were at ~30,000,000 tons of ice melt per day in greenland,  currently it's 720,000,000 tons/day.

Exponential increase,

In 1700 we only had ~500,000,000 people and the First commercial steam pump (pre steam engine).  NOT that long ago.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 17 March 2024, 10:23:01

NOT that long ago.


The population of the planet has more than tripled in my lifetime ....

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 17 March 2024, 11:20:05
Could we please consider the ice. Seriously, we're losing it.  Estimates now up to 5 meters by end of century.

"The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet (3m) in as little as 50 years. "

It's worse than that graphic.
It doesn't account for storm surge and king tides (Miami downtown already floods during king tides as it's only 6 feet above sea level)
You can't put a dike around the entirety of Florida, the cost would be astronomical and if you want to just do Miami the area that you would need the dike is some of the wealthiest real estate in the world. By the time it's not it will be too late to save the rest of it. Don't forget Florida is a sponge/swamp, the water seeps in through the ground and it's sinking 1/2in per year so in 50 years it's going to be more than 2 feet lower than it is now and the weight of a dike is only going to make it worse.

Then again, we're a stupid and stubborn species so we'll probably spend 10x more than we should trying to save it only to end up with a useless swamp.
Case in point, FEMA rules state that in order to get money for a disaster you have to rebuild in the same place. We need to push people out of disaster areas, not rebuild in them.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 17 March 2024, 12:52:04
The Noaa viewer says it accounts for tides, but the 3 meters display is nothing compared to the latest projections.

As for disaster, no amount of insurance can hold this. So, basically in those areas, it's the end of property insurance.

Tp4 half suspects that these large funds (much of which are public backed) moving to purchase property are just bailing out rich landowners PRE-collapse, so they can cash out first on their soon to be worthless holdings..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: chyros on Mon, 18 March 2024, 09:34:09

Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates


I have been going on about this for years.

For once I strongly agree with TP4

Many times I have said that if you want to see Miami, get down there soon.
That's very ironic, isn't the entirety of Miami also sinking into the ground as well?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 22 March 2024, 06:54:23
This is it, this is how we die.

The ability of trees and other plants to photosynthesize is dramatically reduced in low water/ heat-stressed climates. They demonstrate photorespiration (the opposite) of taking in carbon, they are (Coughing) out carbon.

The trees are sick, they will cough more into the future, Planetary boundaries/ FEEDBACK LOOP and then bleeearrcchh..

https://scitechdaily.com/climate-change-is-causing-trees-to-struggle-to-breathe/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Fri, 22 March 2024, 11:58:19
awesome
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 07 April 2024, 10:41:51
Hey! More good news :

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 07 April 2024, 11:37:24
This really brings into context our very human limits. Even best case science, we're running on a prayer at this point that 2.5C is as hot as it gets.

Please eat m0ar veggies.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: _rubik on Sun, 07 April 2024, 12:38:06
Hey! More good news :

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w)

Another thing for maintainers for time programming libraries to keep in mind. Greeeaatttt
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 07 April 2024, 12:48:15
Hey! More good news :

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00932-w)

Another thing for maintainers for time programming libraries to keep in mind. Greeeaatttt

The articles says, it's all bull**** because the spin rate actually changes all the time, and we're just paving it over however we decide to count it.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 08 April 2024, 09:04:18
This really brings into context our very human limits. Even best case science, we're running on a prayer at this point that 2.5C is as hot as it gets.

Please eat m0ar veggies.


Is the majority of the energy waste in meat production the actual raising of animals or more so the rest of the handshake. For example, beef is raised in Texas, shipped god knows were to be slaughtered, packed, etc, then shipped again to a distribution center and then to a grocer. If you have a farmer who is local to you and it's butchered locally, are you off-setting more of the energy waste because it's not being shipped around? I do understand that calorie for calorie we spend more resources to make meat than veggies.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 08 April 2024, 09:11:20
Not just energy cost, the bigger problem is the Land use opportunity cost. 

Beef takes 20-30 calories, produces 1 calorie, meat industry as a whole is 6 in 1 out. Leading cause of deforestation, ~90% of amazon deforestation.

Forests sequester lots of carbon,  cow feedlots do not. We use a total of 43% of the TOTAL earth's dry surface in animal agriculture according to the IPCC.

No amount of electric cars will ever make up that difference. You can turn off the entirety of humanity's fossil fuel industry, and it would not be enough.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 12 April 2024, 10:23:02
Favorite quote:

"We live on a wild planet, a wobbly, erupting, ocean-sloshed orb that careens around a giant thermonuclear explosion in the void."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/17/greenland-losing-30m-tonnes-of-ice-an-hour-study-reveals (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/17/greenland-losing-30m-tonnes-of-ice-an-hour-study-reveals)



Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 April 2024, 07:27:12
Sooo.... Apparently,  Meta (owner of facebook+ etc), straight up blocks many climate change content.

Can't understand why them young people even still use facebook. Just use Gekha. Or go outside, grow some tomatoes.


https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/04/when-facebook-fails-local-media-matters-even-more-for-our-planets-future/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 April 2024, 08:43:04

blocks many climate change content.


Don't worry, be happy. They only use about a terawatt hour of electricity per month.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sun, 14 April 2024, 08:50:48
Sooo.... Apparently,  Meta (owner of facebook+ etc), straight up blocks many climate change content.

Can't understand why them young people even still use facebook. Just use Gekha. Or go outside, grow some tomatoes.


https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/04/when-facebook-fails-local-media-matters-even-more-for-our-planets-future/

The only reason why I still use facebook is mainly because a lot of older people are still on facebook.

It sucks but for some people it's the only social media like it they have.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 14 April 2024, 13:13:25

The only reason why I still use facebook is mainly because a lot of older people are still on facebook.

the only social media


As one of those "older people" (72 - just 2 months from today!) I hardly use "social media" at all, except that I have a photgrapher friend who posts his photos on Facebook.

I have never felt any need to use social media personally, although I can understand people putting up vacation photos and such.

But for people to use it as a reliable information source, uh, I don't think so.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 April 2024, 05:30:23
BIRD FLU alarms going off.  Masks ** just wear 'm

Dubbed, HPAI

Last week, a Texas cattle worker got H5N1.. The flu cases were detected in cattle across texas-michigan.


https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4581683-migratory-birds-seals-bird-flu-outbreak/


"A blood analysis study suggests that about 21% of COVID survivors develop Long COVID. That tracks with a batch of Mississippi data which says 20% of adults have Long COVID. Yet another study from The Lancet confirms that, yes, Long COVID can linger in your body for years. "
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 15 April 2024, 08:37:34

I have never felt any need to use social media personally, although I can understand people putting up vacation photos and such.
But for people to use it as a reliable information source, uh, I don't think so.
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Everyone I have ever made friends with has a cell phone or other mode of digital communication. If social media was intended to keep up with your IRL friends I don't need a global platform to do that on. I can call them/send them a text or email.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 15 April 2024, 19:21:55
TL;DR  "The northern permafrost region has been projected to shift from a net sink to a net source of carbon"

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023GB007953 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023GB007953)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 15 April 2024, 20:28:31
It would seem like run-away is almost a certainty at this point.

This is going to get bad. We're at potentially 3-5 meters sea rise by 2100 according to the latest, but it looks to be accelerating even beyond that.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Tue, 16 April 2024, 06:45:52

I have never felt any need to use social media personally, although I can understand people putting up vacation photos and such.
But for people to use it as a reliable information source, uh, I don't think so.

Everyone I have ever made friends with has a cell phone or other mode of digital communication. If social media was intended to keep up with your IRL friends I don't need a global platform to do that on. I can call them/send them a text or email.
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i mostly use snapchat to talk with people i know irl, and sometimes i use Instagram to look at cars
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Tue, 16 April 2024, 10:22:32

I have never felt any need to use social media personally, although I can understand people putting up vacation photos and such.
But for people to use it as a reliable information source, uh, I don't think so.

Everyone I have ever made friends with has a cell phone or other mode of digital communication. If social media was intended to keep up with your IRL friends I don't need a global platform to do that on. I can call them/send them a text or email.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Wed, 17 April 2024, 10:20:03

I have never felt any need to use social media personally, although I can understand people putting up vacation photos and such.
But for people to use it as a reliable information source, uh, I don't think so.

Everyone I have ever made friends with has a cell phone or other mode of digital communication. If social media was intended to keep up with your IRL friends I don't need a global platform to do that on. I can call them/send them a text or email.
Did your keyboard turn off?  :-\
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 April 2024, 13:59:17
Read a headline today.. "Extreme weather threatens Irish potato output."

I mean, come on guys. We know they'll be fine, but the implications are dire.

TIL the Irish eat 94kg of potatoes a year, 3x the world average.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 28 April 2024, 19:21:43
28% of covid survivors develop some form of long covid. UK Study finds.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sun, 28 April 2024, 19:51:19
28% of covid survivors develop some form of long covid. UK Study finds.

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when I got covid it messed me up for so many weeks, like every weekend I would just sleep cause of how sick I am. Probably do need to wear a mask more often so I don't get that again.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 28 April 2024, 22:12:00
This whole thing about the H5N1,

The media is outlaying that it's not a problem to "eat" a contaminated bird or contaminated beef, because the virus will be cooked.

YES,  but before it's cooked, it has to be handled,  there are a bajillion points of contact with the contaminated bird.  Under-compensated restaurant slave workers don't give a damn about hand washing or general cleanliness.

Even @ home it's not like you can put on a clean suit, prepare the chicken, get a scrub down in disinfectant, then eat.

When they say poultry is safe,  that's just Capitalism saying, keep buying hand grenades in your grocery aisle, we don't care if you die, if you do die, it's YOUR FAULT.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 29 April 2024, 08:08:34

covid it messed me up for so many weeks


I had it about half a year ago, and I am definitely not back to 100%, and am despairing that I never will.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 April 2024, 08:58:47

covid it messed me up for so many weeks


I had it about half a year ago, and I am definitely not back to 100%, and am despairing that I never will.


Fohat not eating enuff veggies.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Mon, 29 April 2024, 09:54:08

covid it messed me up for so many weeks


I had it about half a year ago, and I am definitely not back to 100%, and am despairing that I never will.
i had a runny nose and a cough and i kept telling my parents that i didnt have covid but school protocol says u have to take a test so i finally did and the test turned BRIGHT OPAQUE RED like my body was 80% covid and somehow i only had mild cold symptoms. i just ate toast for the entire time i was sick but my taste came back when the covid went away and i havent had any issues since
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Wed, 01 May 2024, 22:04:18

covid it messed me up for so many weeks


I had it about half a year ago, and I am definitely not back to 100%, and am despairing that I never will.


It may well be the Covid but neither of us are at the age where we can bounce back and be like we were. As we get into our 70's often it's the accidental fall or back twist, the cold that becomes pneumonia, or some inherited condition finally coming out that sets us back and that becomes the new norm.  I know that you take good care of yourself and that's about the best you can do.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 01 May 2024, 23:52:48

covid it messed me up for so many weeks


I had it about half a year ago, and I am definitely not back to 100%, and am despairing that I never will.


It may well be the Covid but neither of us are at the age where we can bounce back and be like we were. As we get into our 70's often it's the accidental fall or back twist, the cold that becomes pneumonia, or some inherited condition finally coming out that sets us back and that becomes the new norm.  I know that you take good care of yourself and that's about the best you can do.

Yeah I am especially worried about older/immune-compromised people as the rest of the population aren't wearing masks and taking precautions, which means that they are especially vulnerable. Covid/flu seasons might be more dangerous because of the newer disease that has been spread around.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 May 2024, 11:09:48
It may well be the Covid but neither of us are at the age where we can bounce back and be like we were. As we get into our 70's often it's the accidental fall or back twist, the cold that becomes pneumonia, or some inherited condition finally coming out that sets us back and that becomes the new norm.  I know that you take good care of yourself and that's about the best you can do.

Buh, why kurplop not try the Max-veggies.
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Fri, 03 May 2024, 18:18:33
It may well be the Covid but neither of us are at the age where we can bounce back and be like we were. As we get into our 70's often it's the accidental fall or back twist, the cold that becomes pneumonia, or some inherited condition finally coming out that sets us back and that becomes the new norm.  I know that you take good care of yourself and that's about the best you can do.

Buh, why kurplop not try the Max-veggies.
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I do eat a lot of veggies, especially broccoli.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 04 May 2024, 00:45:16
Man, I sweat bullets in the dead of Winter without a jacket. Wake up - Immediately begin sweating profusely. Get to work dripping. Middle of the day - nothing. End of the night - here comes the sweat again. So I mostly sweat during periods of inactivity, regardless of temperature.

Any other hyperhidrosis brothers or sisters out there? Summer sucks though, I may as well have just jumped into a pool at any given moment. I miss AC office jobs where you sit all day for that reason.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2024, 07:16:51
Man, I sweat bullets in the dead of Winter without a jacket. Wake up - Immediately begin sweating profusely. Get to work dripping. Middle of the day - nothing. End of the night - here comes the sweat again. So I mostly sweat during periods of inactivity, regardless of temperature.

Any other hyperhidrosis brothers or sisters out there? Summer sucks though, I may as well have just jumped into a pool at any given moment. I miss AC office jobs where you sit all day for that reason.

That sounds like pre-diabetus/ diabetus


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 04 May 2024, 19:16:01

I mostly sweat during periods of inactivity


As I have gotten older, I realize that my internal temperature regulation is less consistent than it was when I was younger.

These days, I will have temporary periods of feeling hot or cold at seemingly random times. Generally, I will feel flushed for a while not long after eating (and especially after breakfast if I also had a cup of coffee) and I usually feel cold for a while when I get into bed, but my AC works and so I am keeping the house in the mid-70sF (low-mid-20sC) but my bed warms up soon enough. Now that it is getting much warmer outside I break into a sweat very quickly when I start working in my garden or walking briskly, but that does not seem unnatural.

As I recall, NT is barely 40 and lives in a temperate area, so I agree that radical overheating seems out of the norm and is worth checking into.


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2024, 19:52:13
As I have gotten older, I realize that my internal temperature regulation is less consistent than it was when I was younger.

These days, I will have temporary periods of feeling hot or cold at seemingly random times. Generally, I will feel flushed for a while not long after eating

Fohat, get your cholesterol and blood sugar tested, this could be the pre/ diabetus.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 May 2024, 20:15:12
Yup, let's keep cutting down the rainforest so we can eating hamburders.  Cattle ranching is responsible for 90% of tropical deforestation in Brazil.  The cartel has even changed the rules where,  if 10% of the forest remains, it's considered NOT-Deforested. That's how they green-wash their election politics, while continuing to kill the Forest.

That's the kind of Stupidity humanity is into.  Now the floods come. Hindsight/ Karmic

Brazil's Rio Grande do Sul Flooding, 500,000 people without water/ electricity, Bridges / Roads leaving the city have been flooded, they are stranded and can not leave.


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 May 2024, 09:18:08
Noooo. Not the Durian!!

""Extreme heat has gripped much of south and south-east Asia over recent weeks, killing dozens of people, forcing millions of students to miss school and destroying crops.

Both the Philippines and Bangladesh shut schools due to the unbearable heat last month, while governments across the region have issued health warnings. In Thailand, at least 30 people have died from heatstroke since the start of the year.

The extreme weather has seen durian fruit burst on trees in Thailand, destroyed rice crops and caused eggs to shrink, according to local media. ""

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 May 2024, 11:09:44
The guardian is a great newspaper.

Depressing morning reads though.

Guardian polls 380 of 843 IPCC scientists:

"Younger scientists were more pessimistic, with 52% of respondents under 50 expecting a rise of at least 3C, compared with 38% of those over 50. Female scientists were also more downbeat than male scientists, with 49% thinking global temperature would rise at least 3C, compared with 38%. There was little difference between scientists from different continents."

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 May 2024, 12:07:38
What surprises me most is that with all the wildness of temperature and weather that we have watched, with terror, over the past dacade (or several decades), so far there has been VERY little sea level rise.

https://theconversation.com/how-rising-water-vapour-in-the-atmosphere-is-amplifying-warming-and-making-extreme-weather-worse-213347 (https://theconversation.com/how-rising-water-vapour-in-the-atmosphere-is-amplifying-warming-and-making-extreme-weather-worse-213347)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 May 2024, 12:08:51
Sea level rise is not perceptible by eye most of the time, but the big floods certainly coming in wet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 May 2024, 08:41:13
CDC is fighting against Big-Meat to track bird flu outbreak at major cattle ranches.

This is the same thing that happened with Mad Cow,   Big Meat bought out the Government, and 90% of US beef is NOT-TESTED for mad-cow disease.   This is an ongoing problem.


Profits are more important than you know, Bird Flu,  and this is H5N1 we're talking about, yea that H5N1, with 60% fatality in human infections.

People can't freakn' count,  heading off a major pandemic might cost $Billions,  COVID cost $Trillions


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/06/bird-flu-dairy-farms-cdc-00156119
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 09 May 2024, 10:56:48
CDC is fighting against Big-Meat to track bird flu outbreak at major cattle ranches.

This is the same thing that happened with Mad Cow,   Big Meat bought out the Government, and 90% of US beef is NOT-TESTED for mad-cow disease.   This is an ongoing problem.


Profits are more important than you know, Bird Flu,  and this is H5N1 we're talking about, yea that H5N1, with 60% fatality in human infections.

People can't freakn' count,  heading off a major pandemic might cost $Billions,  COVID cost $Trillions


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/06/bird-flu-dairy-farms-cdc-00156119

mad cow disease is scary af, having your mind deteriorate quickly with no way to stop it, is an insanely scary thought.

Probably one of the first things that me question the non pork meat consumption that I was eating, especially knowing the conditions of a lot of these factory farms that these cows are in.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 May 2024, 13:55:52
mad cow disease is scary af, having your mind deteriorate quickly with no way to stop it, is an insanely scary thought.

Probably one of the first things that me question the non pork meat consumption that I was eating, especially knowing the conditions of a lot of these factory farms that these cows are in.

Prion diseases have been on the rise, especially mid-west America. Deer wasting disease. They can leave the disease and it can stay in the soil, and picked up by other deer. These disease can easily spread to other livestock/ mutate in.

'Murica is a major meat exporter.  Bon-appetite.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 09 May 2024, 16:36:43
My roommate is already throwing all the windows open. God damn, I hate open windows.
It invites huge amounts of dust in, that I inevitably will have to clean off all my ****. There is a constant stream of strangers walking by at ground level peering in and invading my privacy. Also inviting possible thieves, as he has his PS5 literally right next to the window, anyone could just push out the screen and grab it. Plus the angle forces to sunlight directly onto my video games on the bookshelf, which is the only valuable things I own, as I watch them slowly get sun-bleached.
It is literally like a compulsion with him opening the blinds and windows, first thing he does every day, knowing I hate them being open at all. No matter the weather, how dreary, sunny, rainy, smokey, he HAS to crank every window in the house open every single day. Then he goes into his bedroom with the door closed all day not 'enjoying' any of the sun, and forgets to close them so they remain open regularly until 10-11pm.

ok, done with my rant. I just had to say it somewhere, it has been festering in me for years.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 09 May 2024, 17:52:49

it has been festering in me for years.


People who know me know that I like "sitting around in the dark" .... No doubt that my eyes are sensitive, they are pale blue and I am getting older, but I have always preferred low light situations. As far as enjoying a dark environment indoors - that seems natural to me. True, now that my visual acuity is diminished I need extra light for critical close-up tasks but for general "sitting around" I strongly prefer low light levels.

My ex- in contrast, was one of those people who turned on every light in the house right away. On a dark winter morning that is absolutely painful to me. And, I hardly ever set foot outside in sunlight without dark sunglasses.

As far as open windows, that can be pleasant (if there is nothing ugly outside like pollen or smoke) but downstairs in an area where there are passersby, no, I don't think so.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 May 2024, 23:22:26
No doubt that my eyes are sensitive, they are pale blue and I am getting older, but I have always preferred low light situations. As far as enjoying a dark environment indoors - that seems natural to me.

This sounds like a deficiency of Beta Carotene which is what coats the back of your retina preventing damage from UV.

Gotta eat them yellow/orange veggies.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 07:48:52
Texahs

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 15:52:52
Well, there it is, Venezuela's the first country to lose all of its glacier. Its last remaining glacier has melted down to a lower category an "ice field".

It's gon' get wild people.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 12 May 2024, 14:07:03
We can barely handle 100 million refugees today, projection is 2 Billion refugees @ 2.7Celcius,  Not a single country is ready, or even preparing.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 12 May 2024, 17:50:26
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 14 May 2024, 08:05:09
Climate Scientists: We're running out of fresh water, there's gonna be Water-Wars.

-The rest of us, while eating burgers: But why, who's drinking all that water??

Doctors: Never mind that, I need your diabetus money to pay for my german car that I never get to drive because I'm so busy managing your diabetus.

Mcdonalds: My customers are morons, if I sell them something else, they will rebel and go to Burger King.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 15 May 2024, 16:39:49
23 predicted major named storms/hurric for 2024, vs the normal 17.

And that's conservative, other weather agencies are predicting up to 33.

Don't mess around people. Get RDY. Call grandma, bug-out bags at the door.



La nina transition typically makes for a busier season in the Atlantic than usual, this ontop of EXTREMELY warm water this year from el nino.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 16 May 2024, 08:06:31
DeSantis strikes again.

Note that this is -  NOT A JOKE
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 16 May 2024, 10:07:43
Hallelujah! Amazing!

SCROTUS actually ruled that the CFPB (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) is legitimate and constitutional!

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/16/supreme-court-upholds-cfpb-funding-saving-agency-00158348 (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/16/supreme-court-upholds-cfpb-funding-saving-agency-00158348)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 17 May 2024, 10:44:53
Houston, Texas devastation. 1 million people without power. Concrete highrise = deathtraps ?

Climate change is fake news. Even florida legally denies its existence.



Honestly though, why do we even put glass on highrise windows. Why not use plywood with some holes. What's there to see. It's a city, we're in a cage.

Those windows will cost $millions to fix.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 17 May 2024, 10:51:20

Concrete highrise = deathtraps ?


Imagine when the hurricane hits Miami ....

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 17 May 2024, 11:24:36
Imagine when the hurricane hits Miami ....

No way, Ron Desantis has the power to stop climate change in its track.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 17 May 2024, 18:53:44
The funny thing is he also made it a requirement to have hurricane restoration plans (I.E. insurance)...

So deny the threat but require insurance to cover it, what could go wrong.
The next major one will send insurers running, the few that are left and they'll take their money with them just like they did with Hurricane Katrina. At which point the feds will have to handle it... You know, the ones they way to get rid of.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 19 May 2024, 06:12:11
In the event of, let's call it scarcity, a CITY would tear itself apart. The amount and rate of destruction would rise exponentially relative to population size.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Pyre on Fri, 24 May 2024, 19:02:07
In the event of, let's call it scarcity, a CITY would tear itself apart. The amount and rate of destruction would rise exponentially relative to population size.

Indeed - its fascinating how interconnected a city is, and how much its denizens don't realise the effort it takes to get various things on the store shelves - and how fragile that all is.

 We saw in here in Sydney during COVID with people fighting over toilet paper of all things :D
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 25 May 2024, 03:40:53
In the event of, let's call it scarcity, a CITY would tear itself apart. The amount and rate of destruction would rise exponentially relative to population size.

Indeed - its fascinating how interconnected a city is, and how much its denizens don't realise the effort it takes to get various things on the store shelves - and how fragile that all is.

 We saw in here in Sydney during COVID with people fighting over toilet paper of all things :D

The toilet paper hoarding was the strangest thing, I would've expected hand sanitiser and soap to run off the shelves first but toilet paper seemed so random, I remember hearing that the majority of toilet paper in Australia is produced locally, so it made it even more random cause there wouldn't have been shortages if there wasn't any panic about it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 26 May 2024, 11:41:47
This picture is not pretty.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 26 May 2024, 12:22:18
It's going to be worse during harvest season through June. Harvest releases a ton of carbon. And at the same time removes the surface plants which absorb carbon
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2024, 07:16:58
In Mexico, it's so hot right now, overheated monkeys are falling from trees, suffering injury and death.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 29 May 2024, 08:34:47

In Mexico, it's so hot right now, overheated monkeys are falling from trees


I heard that was in India. Probably both.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 May 2024, 18:01:27
Mungeshpur, Delhi, 52.3 Celcius.  ~126.14 F

Look, I'm just saying,  the house is burning down.  You guys wanna like maybe, idk.


(https://i.imgur.com/10theJm.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Pyre on Thu, 30 May 2024, 03:59:36
In the event of, let's call it scarcity, a CITY would tear itself apart. The amount and rate of destruction would rise exponentially relative to population size.

Indeed - its fascinating how interconnected a city is, and how much its denizens don't realise the effort it takes to get various things on the store shelves - and how fragile that all is.

 We saw in here in Sydney during COVID with people fighting over toilet paper of all things :D

The toilet paper hoarding was the strangest thing, I would've expected hand sanitiser and soap to run off the shelves first but toilet paper seemed so random, I remember hearing that the majority of toilet paper in Australia is produced locally, so it made it even more random cause there wouldn't have been shortages if there wasn't any panic about it.

That was the funniest thing - Quilton have their factory in SA, so there wasn't really an issue of supply.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 30 May 2024, 07:21:47

toilet paper hoarding


That was the funniest thing


It was truly bizarre. Not far from here there was a gunfight and death in a parking lot when one customer filled a truck with the entire supply available at the store.

Of course grocery stores were stripped of rice, beans, flour, oil, etc, very quickly but that made at least some sense.

My theory is that people felt helpless and were looking for anything to do that would make them feel secure.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 30 May 2024, 07:47:23
Of course grocery stores were stripped of rice, beans, flour, oil, etc, very quickly but that made at least some sense.

Tp4 also bought ~600lbs of rice back then. Up to 1000lbs end to end.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 30 May 2024, 07:51:51
Sobering article about climate inequality.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2023/india-deadly-extreme-heat-poverty/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 30 May 2024, 07:56:08
It was truly bizarre. Not far from here there was a gunfight and death in a parking lot when one customer filled a truck with the entire supply available at the store.

Of course grocery stores were stripped of rice, beans, flour, oil, etc, very quickly but that made at least some sense.

My theory is that people felt helpless and were looking for anything to do that would make them feel secure.

For Australia at least, it was a lot of panic that stemmed from the media, that started when people started spreading misinformation that the toilet paper supplies were running out. Then the media reported about these shortages and were basically saying "don't panic buy, but it might be months before you can get some" so people flooded the stores to get some.

The lesson learned - get a bidet, more environmentally friendly and probably better for you than tp.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 30 May 2024, 08:41:29

The lesson learned - people are full of ****.


Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 30 May 2024, 08:49:27

The lesson learned - people are full of ****.


Fixed that for you.

also true lol

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 30 May 2024, 12:35:08
Middle of the afternoon, 1 day away from June, 51°/10.5°C

this whole weeks has been cold and miserable
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 30 May 2024, 13:33:13

this whole weeks has been cold and miserable


There are literally hundreds of millions of people who envy you.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 30 May 2024, 20:05:00
Peeps pretty angry over on the Indian forums.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 07 June 2024, 03:02:48
Unconfirmed, but rumors of high uptick in raw milk sales due to the belief spread along social media, that drinking Raw Milk infested with H5N1 will produce immunity.

 
Heck, let them do it, natural selection right?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: mohawk1367 on Tue, 11 June 2024, 06:46:07
Middle of the afternoon, 1 day away from June, 51°/10.5°C

this whole weeks has been cold and miserable
i wish it was still 51 here. hate the heat
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 June 2024, 21:06:19
Heat Katrina.

So, this is where they model a sudden power blackout during a dangerous heatwave.  For example a 2 day black out modeled in Phoenix Arizona during a severe heatwave would result in 12,000 (12 thousand) deaths.

//Gaspp..


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 June 2024, 05:42:22
Dengue fever, here it comes. Already 3 million confirmed cases in Brazil.

Dengue, bone-breaking pain + fever, because it feels like your bones are breaking, they don't literally break, it just feels like it, but maybe that's good enough.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 June 2024, 05:56:59
Microplastics found in seeman samples, lower spurtm count correlated.

So they say further studies are required to explore the correlation.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 June 2024, 06:13:01
Oh snap, they lied about the Cows not dying from the H5N1, they indeed have been dying.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 June 2024, 09:18:50
South Florida flooded, despite climate banishment.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Thu, 13 June 2024, 11:13:40
Cheer up and stop being so gloomy.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 June 2024, 14:15:20
Cheer up and stop being so gloomy.


Trying, kurplo, it's very hard.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 15 June 2024, 16:38:09
The car wash. sigh..... The amount of wasted resources just to wash cars.  It's not even that clean after the fact, it's only slightly cleaner at best. They barely get out all the streaks.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 15 June 2024, 17:30:25
It has been in the low 50s all week, what is going on? Where is Summer?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 15 June 2024, 21:12:07

Where is Summer?


Everywhere else.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 15 June 2024, 21:25:51
The car wash. sigh..... The amount of wasted resources just to wash cars.  It's not even that clean after the fact, it's only slightly cleaner at best. They barely get out all the streaks.

true, but like, idk going through a car wash is like so cool to me, idk it was like my favourite thing to go through as a kid.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 15 June 2024, 21:40:19
The last 2 times I went through I got no soap.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 16 June 2024, 09:28:14
The car wash. sigh..... The amount of wasted resources just to wash cars.  It's not even that clean after the fact, it's only slightly cleaner at best. They barely get out all the streaks.
A LOT of places filter and re-use the water, using only pure fresh water for the last rinse, if even that.
If there's access to treated/grey water they can even use that for final rinse.

Washes can also save resources, especially in the rust belt, by prolonging a cars usable lifespan.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 16 June 2024, 13:28:26
Dr. Phillip Alveld, former program manager, DARPA’s Biological Technologies Office that pioneered the synthetic biology industry and the development of mRNA vaccine technology.

"...the White House has maintained the very strictest abatements to protect people who live and work there from the virus: In order to enter the White House, they have to have had no symptoms for 14 days, the latest booster vaccinations up-to-date, and a negative rapid test. They have nine or better fresh air exchanges per hour and all filters are upgraded to MERV 13. They have also installed 220 nanometer Germicidal UV lamps. After a positive test, you have to have a PCR Test negative to return to work. The White House admitted quietly on CSPAN that the protections were still in place in July of 2023 when an Israeli delegation was not admitted after testing positive for COVID, after claiming with much fanfare the prior April that the pandemic was over and that it was safe to return to work."

Covid is NOT over, they just don't care if you die anymore. Don't stop flipping those burgers.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 23 June 2024, 19:59:50
"Dozens of bodies were discovered in Delhi during a two-day stretch this week when even sundown brought no relief from sweltering heat and humidity. Tourists died or went missing as the mercury surged in Greece. Hundreds of pilgrims perished before they could reach Islam’s holiest site, struck down by temperatures as high as 125 degrees."

And that's just how they "started" the article.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 23 June 2024, 20:51:38

Covid is NOT over


It has just faded into the background noise.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Evolurkeeb on Tue, 25 June 2024, 03:12:10
We should just focus on living our lives well and cherish the present.






Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 July 2024, 21:08:49
Sigh, Phoenix Arizona, cooling centers, mobile cooling busses.

This is man's hubris. The continued belief that climate change can be solved with air-conditioning.

It's like taking aspirin for your heart congestion, while eating a whole pizza every day.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 02 July 2024, 05:47:36
Sigh, Phoenix Arizona, cooling centers, mobile cooling busses.
This is man's hubris. The continued belief that climate change can be solved with air-conditioning.
It's like taking aspirin for your heart congestion, while eating a whole pizza every day.

You can have my A/C when you pry it from my warm dead hands.

BTW, I was there over the weekend mountain biking, just gotta be off the mountain by 8 or 9am.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 July 2024, 22:35:10
This was a slightly upsetting day.

Spent all day at the aquarium.  They had this mini-film at their revolve around theater.  The whole movie was about coral bleaching.

But RIGHT BEFORE the damn movie,  they played an advertisement for eating at a Steak restaurant..   Coral bleaching, sponsored by Big-Beef.

And they had a whole exhibit about "sustainable" seafood, which is complete BS, green-washing.  Right next to their exhibit about how all the SHARKS are dying.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 20 July 2024, 20:50:18
The Key-Largo-Tree-Cactus is the first hardline-documented species to have been wiped out by rising sea levels resultant of climate change.

It was a Florida Native.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 July 2024, 20:18:00
5 cases of H5N1 discovered among poultry farm workers in Colorado.

HERE WE GO.... !!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 22 July 2024, 17:01:46

Key-Largo

rising sea levels


I saw something on TV about working on roads and such in the Florida Keys (where water is already a foot deep at king tides). WTF?

Believe me, I love a relaxing beach vacation (it has probably been a decade since I had one) and can certainly feel sympathy for people who have lived there in a "tropical paradise" for a good portion of their lives.

But hey folks! Wake up and smell the coffee! You got to know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em ....
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 22 July 2024, 17:41:20
Florida people be like, "Oh sweet, the beach is closer to my house!"
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 July 2024, 19:05:56
Major Texas power outage continues after Hurricane Beryl, the earliest category 4 ever, devastates the state.

"""During the outage, a generator powered one elevator and a large, air-conditioned lounge at the complex – a lifeline for many who are dependent on electric wheelchairs and scooters to get around and oxygen machines for pulmonary disease. At times, as many as 40 residents sought refuge in the lounge. Others remained in their stifling apartments. Some stayed with relatives. """

This is only the beginning. The hubris in believing that technology will save us, that technology has mastered nature. What wanton disrespect for the 1 TRUE GOD.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 July 2024, 20:48:17
This article, super guilt tripping the Tp4.

"""Ramesh lives with his parents, three brothers, a sister-in-law, and three children, in a congested suburb in western Delhi, a city that has made headlines in recent years as mercury levels regularly climb to dangerous levels.

And as temperatures topped 40 degrees Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) this June – closing schools, damaging crops and putting pressure on energy supplies – the heat was making his family sick too.

Ramesh, who goes by one name, says he borrowed $35 – nearly half of his monthly salary – from relatives to buy a second-hand air conditioner for his home.

“It makes a noise, sometimes it releases dust,” he said. But he cannot do without it. """
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 July 2024, 21:15:43
Sigh. Tp4 calculating recent expenses.  No, don't stop @ go, just send Tp4 to jail.

motorized tv lift, $200
motorized desk lift $200
air purifier x4, $280
road food, rice, berries, veggies, ~(approx) subway veggie sub x60, $780, closer to $1000-1500
7800x3d base parts, $700
6950xt $600
7900xtx $1070
gas 6000 miles, $1300
midea u air conditioners x6, $1680
s90c 77" oled $2300

~$10,000, closer to $15,000 including hotel use.

That's 430x second hand air conditioners in India. For which that ailing farmer had to borrow money for. +Tp4 literally ate all his rice.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 23 July 2024, 17:37:56
I am reading a book on fundamentalism and I was struck by this passage, and how you could fill the blanks with names of many different groups and get wildly different scenarios, but which are entirely reasonable. I replaced the original terms with blanks. Fill them in yourself.

“The issue of normalcy most divides the _______ right from left. The left longs for normalcy and wants _______ to be a nation like other nations. The entire _______ right, on the other hand, is united in its resentment of the idea of normalcy and its belief, along the lines of _______ religion, that _______ are exceptional – different from other people and nations. Reverence for the national past allegedly solidifies this uniqueness. Religious _______ believe that God made _______ unique, many of the secular right believe that _______ are destined to be unique by their past and have no free choice in the matter.

Another, but somewhat less important, reason for the affinity between the secular right and religious _______ is that the latter are capable of providing “convincing”arguments for perpetual _______ rule over the land of _______ and the denial of certain basic rights to the _______. These arguments are not only put in terms of national security but more importantly in terms of the God–given right to this territory. Secular _______ scholars and politicians are often far too alienated from the ________ past and _______ values to talk competently, or even to  understand properly, such matters. Only the religious can provide an in–depth rationale for _______ policies, which are grounded not in short–term strategic considerations but rather in the long history of the special relationship between God and his chosen people.”


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 July 2024, 19:05:07
Language has always been vaguely defined.

It changes to suite whatever condition is temporally most likely to be valuable.

Benevolent vs Despicable Method.    Do we judge the outcome or the method, or do we defer to the larger grand scheme.


Comprehension changes based on arbitrary cutting. Victims become Perpetrators, become victims, become perpetrators as you randomly step back in time.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 26 July 2024, 01:42:35
They want to "grow" Vegas?

Tp4 was just there, experienced the fabled 120F @ death valley. It was 110 morning in Vegas, 100 at night. Homeless people would walk around the parking lot asking for water.

Seriously, the Arrogance and Worship of the almighty air conditioning.


Tp4 had an actual dark chocolate bar melt in his pocket.


Flames 400 feet high in Jasper Canada. Wildfires are out of control, the Town is likely lost.

Where's your air-conditioner god now?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 26 July 2024, 18:24:57
Sigh.. Jasper Canada, you know, that town which denies Climate Change, voted against increasing fire mitigation costs,

GOT BURNED DOWN by wildfire,  1/3 to 1/2 of structures destroyed.
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 July 2024, 06:10:47
This tourist in death valley walked around, his foot basically skillet fried on the ground and he had to be rescued.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 July 2024, 06:14:10
Antarctic ice 5-std deviations below normal. NE1 who knows what stddev is, knows it means GG-humanity.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 29 July 2024, 23:48:19
""The loss of water has serious impacts on the lives of animals and people.

Researchers in Utah have begun to detect sharp declines in shorebird populations, such as burrowing owls and snowy plovers, as a result of brine shrimp dying out.

Dust storms and air pollution, born out of a dried up lake bed, is also a major concern for Utah residents. Scientists have also warned that the lake has high concentrations of neurotoxins and cancer causing carcinogens — including arsenic and mercury.

That's worrisome for the majority of Utah's 3.3 million population who live near the lake. ""


It's coming... !!

Tp4 has read you can build up a tolerance for Cyanide, but can you build up tolerance to Arsenic?


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 July 2024, 06:48:22
This is fine, humanity is fine with this.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 30 July 2024, 07:57:19

fine with this


There is no indication as to what the scaling notation of this indicates, but I feel some small comfort by living in a yellow area.
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 July 2024, 08:16:00
I feel some small comfort by living in a yellow area.

Tp4 recommends Air purifier in all occupied spaces. 24/7

There is alot of radiation in that smoke resultant of US weapons fallout/production/mining/power plants.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 31 July 2024, 16:43:58
""Delivery riders take a break in one of the new buses, an air-conditioned rest stop, which allows riders a break from the summer heat on July 31, 2023, in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. The buses are also equipped with water, snacks, and a cooling vest, which riders can wear while they're out driving to help bring down their body's core temperature. Deployed throughout the UAE, these rest stops are part of summer initiatives aimed at enhancing safety for delivery riders by offering spaces to cool down during the sweltering days when temperatures consistently soar to 113 degrees Fahrenheit or more. ""



Because you know, praying to the Air Conditioning God is going to solve the climate crisis.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 August 2024, 04:24:36
The Quarry Fire.......Firefighters struggle with limited resources and “a rattlesnake problem”.....

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 August 2024, 19:28:34
One wishes the god damn Glaciologists would make up their minds about how much water is in the ice.

Estimate range from 30 meters to 60 meters worth of sea level rise.

We're doomed either way,  but Tp4 would like to know precisely HOW DOOMED. 


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 August 2024, 23:23:37
Less Krill = Less Whales.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 04 August 2024, 23:39:39
The greatest president we never had.  Great youtube channel though. Sighhh...

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 August 2024, 08:21:33
You read about "who will pay the cost" when x****X  climate tipping point &^%(( happens.

Realize, the fossil fuel industry is the backbone of "money." in general.   And we AGREE, that their reserves, the capital, is all worthless when nature Forces-the-issue. That is to say, we'll all be broke when it happens, everyone. The money system as it exists falls apart with the rest of the die-off.  Yea, the heads might get a few extra meals while the rest of us starve first, but all this energy to quibble about nothing.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 August 2024, 09:00:55
AMOC,  good article.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2024/08/climate-crisis-atlantic-amoc-wired-science-tipping-point/


lol, cool exerpt, hyughyughyughyug..

"In footnote 4 of the IPCC’s latest big report, “very unlikely” meant that, in the panelists’ view, the AMOC had less than a 1-in-10 chance of collapsing before 2100. One in 10. Those odds didn’t strike him as “very unlikely.” Russian roulette is one in six, and we all agree that’s a bad idea. "
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 05 August 2024, 15:00:50

“very unlikely”


I would guess that Europe would feel any change in the Gulf Stream.

From Wikipedia:
48.8575° N, 2.3514° E
Paris, France Lat Long Coordinates Info

Northern US / Southern Canada border line = "49th parallel"


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 August 2024, 22:01:09
Florida, big floods.  /laughs in climate change.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 05 August 2024, 22:13:12
Thinking about what's happening in the Park Fires, Now 4th largest in the state of California.

We're at the point in climate-catastrophe-phase, such that a Singular-action by some-idiot, can set off record fire/ damages. 400,956 acres burned, destroying 564 structures and damaging 50 (so far).


And this is only the beginning of the end ?? 


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 August 2024, 15:32:23
Don't think people understand that this year's weather is just Diet-Soda.

When the Full Version comes down. We gon' die.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 August 2024, 08:05:18
Blue Tongue disease,  here we go. Spread by mosquitos.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2024/08/06/gevolg-rendac-blauwtongvirus/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 August 2024, 16:03:21
Went downstairs to get a cup of mango-pineapple-apple-lemon juice.

By the time Tp4 got up the stairs back to the room, he had already finished the juice.

This is pretty much climate change in a nutshell,  we are drank all the juice on the way up the stairs, and now there's going to be no juice.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 10 August 2024, 10:58:21
Brazil plane going down from a stall, Allegedly due to "An ICING PROBLEM"

Exactly as prophesied in the movie Ironman 1, and The Day After Tomorrow.


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But at least it's slightly uplifting to see that brazil is using solar thermal water heating. They're plastic pipes painted black to absorb infrared, then they pump water through it.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 10 August 2024, 20:30:46
Not the Yaks..  Noooo the yaks...

Indian Council for Agricultural Research-National Research Centre for Yak (ICAR-NRCY), India’s premier yak research institute.


https://www.cnn.com/interactive/asequals/climate-change-himalayas-yak-women-as-equals-intl-cmd/
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 August 2024, 08:28:05
"Fire Clouds"

Clouds generated by wildfire, which release intense lightning, which extends the wildfire in unpredictable ways, breaking projection models.  Scientists are now researching this while all the forests burn down and humanity suffocates.

No one has eaten any broccoli.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 August 2024, 08:39:34
It's out. A new strain of "hypervirulent"  K. pneumoniae, antibiotics resistant, causes severe infections even in people with healthy immune systems. Known to cause pneumonia, urinary tract infections, bloodstream infections and the nervous-system infection meningitis.

https://www.livescience.com/health/viruses-infections-disease/dangerous-strains-of-hypervirulent-superbug-detected-in-us-and-15-other-countries

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/RRA-20240129-48%20FINAL.pdf
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2024, 10:17:55
Barrier reefs,  just give up scientists, animal agriculture killed it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2024, 11:00:01
CDC to begin offering flu vaccines to farm-workers.

This is getting pretty serious. H5N1 people.. 60% you die.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 August 2024, 11:04:01
Just so gekrs are aware.  Alberta is the Texahhs of Canada.   Annnd their god is taking care of them.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 13 August 2024, 16:36:27
"Surprising no one, Texas has been at the forefront of this behavior. Last year, the state passed a law that blocked local rules in Austin and Dallas requiring companies to provide 10-minute water and sun breaks to construction workers every four hours. The law also bars any other cities from passing similar ordinances in the future. Texas was already the state with the most heat-related on-the-job deaths since 2011, but the state’s conservatives say the real issue is that having differing local ordinances about water breaks is tough on businesses."
- Lisa Needham 2024-08-12
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 14 August 2024, 04:58:35
"the state’s conservatives say the real issue is that having differing local ordinances about water breaks is tough on businesses."
To be fair, that can be an issue, but only if you have a boss/owner wanting to take advantage of their employees... Which in my experience is a lot of them.

While I would like to give them reasonable doubt and say they have the right idea but executed it clumsily, but we all know that's not the case. There's a many reasons companies really like Texas.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 August 2024, 08:23:41
"the state’s conservatives say the real issue is that having differing local ordinances about water breaks is tough on businesses."
To be fair, that can be an issue, but only if you have a boss/owner wanting to take advantage of their employees... Which in my experience is a lot of them.

While I would like to give them reasonable doubt and say they have the right idea but executed it clumsily, but we all know that's not the case. There's a many reasons companies really like Texas.

Doubt it's about the water break, did Texas stuff some other laws into the same bill.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 15 August 2024, 04:45:40
Doubt it's about the water break, did Texas stuff some other laws into the same bill.

Texas is VERY anti-union and anti-workers rights.
They portray it as being "free" but your freedom really depends on how big your company is.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 August 2024, 07:53:52

being "free" but your freedom really depends


Many times my grandfather told me: "Son, this is free country and you can do what you want. But your freedom stops at the tip of the next person's nose."

Why are workers not "free" to get a drink of water? They aren't slaves after all.

And anyway, a worker's productivity is directly related to their health and state of mind. It is in the employer's interest to have them working at top efficiency. The municipality should only be setting the absolute floor for basic safety.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 15 August 2024, 07:56:30
Many times my grandfather told me: "Son, this is free country and you can do what you want. But your freedom stops at the tip of the next person's nose."

Why are workers not "free" to get a drink of water? They aren't slaves after all.

And anyway, a worker's productivity is directly related to their health and state of mind. It is in the employer's interest to have them working at top efficiency. The municipality should only be setting the absolute floor for basic safety.


WE ARE SLAVES,  most people just don't realize it.

Capitalism is just slavery by another name.

Our modern slave owners (democratic government) have the exclusive rights to use Violence, and to Print Money.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 15 August 2024, 08:37:51
Half of Puerto Rico without power due to hurricane.

This will affect computer people.


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 16 August 2024, 04:55:46
Why are workers not "free" to get a drink of water? They aren't slaves after all.
Quite a lot of ceo's want them to be.
A few years ago a mine owner in Australia was angry because those pesky Aussies had the audacity to expect to be paid more than $3 a day like the Africans in her oversea mine. I guarantee you, if she could pay even less than $3 she would. Same for Amazon, Tesla, SpaceX, and quite a lot of other companies. This is why we have H1B visas, which Twitter is almost entirely manned by at this point, they're underpaid and if they quit they get sent home.

Actually none of that is true... they don't want slaves, they want free labor, or preferably no labor at all, just give them all of the money and exist somewhere they aren't and have their needs magically met. You can never give them enough to satisfy them.


And anyway, a worker's productivity is directly related to their health and state of mind. It is in the employer's interest to have them working at top efficiency.
This is true only if you don't have a population to burn through and you actually give a sh*t.
There are places where IBM and Amazon can't hire enough people because they've burned through so much of the local population.

Yes, it costs a lot to hire someone than to keep them but that assumes you need that position filled in a hurry. If you can spend 8 months looking for someone to fill a spot you didn't really need them did you. If a company REALLY needs someone fast they will hire someone fast and if they can make more by running everyone at near burnout pace so be it. The whole C-suite is pretty dystopian.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 16 August 2024, 07:56:52
Mercury being released from permafrost, exacerbated by Climate Change.

Sigh... Minamata people, minamata..
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 16 August 2024, 07:59:06

released from permafrost


Permafrost is possibly the thing I worry about the most.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 17 August 2024, 07:24:50
Doomsday fish sighted, Southern California.

/dooooooooooooom.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2024, 07:56:15
This was during the 2016 El Nino,  much the same this year possibly.

Air temperatures around Mamirauá topped 40C for days and the absence of rain and clouds cooked Amazon waters in the sun. In Lake Tefé, a tributary of, and gateway to, the western Amazon .... Fleischmann .... measured water temperatures above 40C between 3ft and 6ft underwater.

Fleischmann was distraught. “Nobody ever saw anything like this before. I saw 70 river dolphin carcasses along the lake and one animal still agonising. It was about 4pm and very hot. I watched a dolphin swimming in circles, struggling to survive. It was horrible. We didn’t know what to do or how to help it.” Not only was it hot and dry, but more than 7,000 fires raged across Amazonas state.



https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/17/methane-climate-crisis-amazon-peat-permafrost-vegan-heat-pumps
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 18 August 2024, 08:10:46

measured water temperatures above 40C between 3ft and 6ft underwater.


Holy ****! Having been swimming in rivers and lakes, I know that the water generally gets cooler when you go down a few feet.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2024, 08:14:55
Holy ****! Having been swimming in rivers and lakes, I know that the water generally gets cooler when you go down a few feet.

Everyone needs to m0ar-veggies fohat, there's no other option.

We essentially need everyone to 99.99% veggie to turn this climate change around.

90% of Amazon rainforest deforestation is due to the demand for grazing BEEF cattle. Brazil is a vassal state, they have no political or economic will of their own, this situation is almost entirely Our-fault ('murica).
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 August 2024, 08:37:36
Don't listen to Tp4 say it, fine

Here's a famous white guy saying it.
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 19 August 2024, 12:27:45
Tp4 can't afford beach front property.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 August 2024, 15:39:40

Tp4 can't afford beach front property.


Wait a few years, you may get some.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 22 August 2024, 21:32:40
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Had a conversation today, with an ignorant person, which is just about 99% of persons.

Tried to tell him about the ICE MELTING.

Putting it most simply, the Ice takes millions of years to make.  If we lose all of it, we would almost double the heating on the planet, as the blacker ocean increases the heat absorbed, while the missing ice no longer reflecting radiant energy back into space.

<This is a planetary boundary> What does that mean, it means if we cross a threshold, we can not go back. Nature just has to hit the reset button, kill everything, and start over.

His argument literally was, well we have refrigerators, the government can easily turn this around by investing in the technology to transport heat away from the arctic.


He's not a dumb person per se, but there are such MAJOR gaps in people's knowledge, that there is no point of DEMOCRACY, in fact, depending on timing, democracy could well be the most dangerous thing..

If you were trying to save the planet right now.  You'd really just have to kill your way to the top of this Idiotic Heap, then turn this around via Incredible violence.   This must be done, because there's no time, and no alternative.


Tp4 can only watch the world burn, because he's got neither power nor annex to power.  He's got some annex to money, but that's useless, because capitalism is good for nothing but burning. Every modern economic machinery is designed to burn or kill something, this includes ALL of clean energy.


For reference, the most efficient electric heat pump system we produce is only 3:1 , use 1 watt to Move 3 watt of heat.  It doesn't move it into SPACE,  only somewhere ON EARTH.   So even if we had a heat pump big enough, turning it on would instantly kill us.    It'd be like lighting another fire in the burning house we're already stuck in.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 23 August 2024, 08:17:03

the missing ice no longer reflecting radiant energy


At least the arctic and antarctic regions are where the least direct sunlight reaches in.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 23 August 2024, 13:15:20
People tour the ice sheet melting. And you see this guy go, yeaaaahh, when a big piece of ice breaks off.

Stupid stupid humans.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 23 August 2024, 13:33:43
Clade 1-b  Mpox.  10% fatality.  Ongoing outbreak in Africa. WHO has declared global emergency, which is the HIGHEST level of alarm in international health law.

Sweden and Thailand has reported their 1st cases of Clade 1.   Current estimates show only 1% fatality rate, but that's pretty bad already.

Previous US infection was the less deadly Clade 2, 0.2% fatality.

Don't touch anything. Go to costco, GO HOME.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 26 August 2024, 08:23:33
KP.3.1.1 Covid surging across America,  Don't get complacent people.

Stop going outside so much.  Everything fun is computer.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 September 2024, 19:41:05
Eastern equine encephalitis,  or EEE.  Spread by mosquitoes. Some states recommending curfew.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 06 September 2024, 13:18:23
https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/unexpected-rainfall-event-sahara-desert-2024-anomaly-fa/ (https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/unexpected-rainfall-event-sahara-desert-2024-anomaly-fa/)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 September 2024, 21:23:08
Liquified natural gas (LNG) is At least as bad as coal, Likely worse.  Cornell study.

Reason:  Methane Leak across the entire process stack.

Yay Fracking... !! Woooooo !!


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 September 2024, 08:31:13
Wow!
Just wow

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-sources-say-2024-09-18/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-sources-say-2024-09-18/)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2024, 09:26:52
Wow!
Just wow

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-sources-say-2024-09-18/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-sources-say-2024-09-18/)

Sigh..  WW3 here we come.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Wed, 18 September 2024, 17:01:39
Yep. Pagers yesterday, today walkie-talkies. Impressive!
Tomorrow... airpods?
I would do toilet sits.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2024, 17:06:27
Sigh.. Israel wants to find out the hard way, how it only took ~30 people do a 9.11 against the United States, the most powerful country on the planet.

I just hope they don't drag us into this further.  Which harris and trump both seem intent on doing. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 18 September 2024, 17:19:46
Currently don't have a jacket for this Winter due to slipping on ice last year and ripping it. Either need to repair my old one, or steal one off a bum, cause I have a feeling this is gonna be a frigid Winter.

Anyone know where to take a ripped leather jacket to be fixed? I tried a dry cleaners, but they said they don't work with leather.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 18 September 2024, 17:36:33
Tp4 recommends Duct-Tape.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 18 September 2024, 17:56:11

where to take a ripped leather jacket to be fixed?


Maybe a shoe repair place?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Thu, 19 September 2024, 08:34:33
Currently don't have a jacket for this Winter due to slipping on ice last year and ripping it. Either need to repair my old one, or steal one off a bum, cause I have a feeling this is gonna be a frigid Winter.

Anyone know where to take a ripped leather jacket to be fixed? I tried a dry cleaners, but they said they don't work with leather.

Shoe repair places do leather in any form, I used to take purses and jackets for fix there.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 27 September 2024, 15:22:54
Hurricane Helene,  climate change? Nahhhhh..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 27 September 2024, 16:58:43
East Tennessee took quite a hit.
Storms like to drop their rain on the mountains, and it builds up a lot of force racing downhill ....

edit - Newfound Gap, a favorite hiking area at the crest of the Smoky Mountains on the state line (the ridge crest forms the Tenneessee - North Carolina state line) got 9 inches (23 cm) ! and that was in a matter of hours, far inland
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 27 September 2024, 18:41:07
East Tennessee took quite a hit.
Storms like to drop their rain on the mountains, and it builds up a lot of force racing downhill ....

edit - Newfound Gap, a favorite hiking area at the crest of the Smoky Mountains on the state line (the ridge crest forms the Tenneessee - North Carolina state line) got 9 inches (23 cm) ! and that was in a matter of hours, far inland

Where can we go Fohat, if we lose globalization, country wide, the costs will soon make rebuilding untenable. Forget about insurance, you couldn't buy enough materials with infinite $$.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 30 September 2024, 13:41:29
It's about time. Anybody who wasn't already doing it was a fool.
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/26/climate-risk-zillow-insurance-home-listings (https://www.axios.com/2024/09/26/climate-risk-zillow-insurance-home-listings)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 30 September 2024, 19:46:21
Nah ....

https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1840107271520694464 (https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1840107271520694464)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 October 2024, 09:47:27
Iran missiles.

Sigh...........

Israel's Iron Dome (America), designed (mostly), produced by Raytheon/General Dynamics, interceptor missiles cost between 1 Million - 3.5 Million a piece.

Iran's latest missile attack, ~$100,000 a piece.

Statistically,  KNOWING exactly where a missile is going to be BEFORE HAND, as in TESTING, Not live combat, we only have 70% chance of successful interception.  This is the best math that current technology can achieve.

If you don't know where the missile is going to be, the %% is basically ffff'all.


Isreel's genocide is not going to end well. Unless we send our troops to finish it for them.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 October 2024, 10:57:31
Hurricane Helene damage estimates, $250 Billion.

Animal Agriculture, Keep it up !!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 October 2024, 11:23:47
Do we really need more explanation on how quickly nature can put us back in the stone ages.

North Carolina relying on Mules to deliver emergency supply.

Where's your fancy electric car now, yo f'n Donkey?

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2024, 12:12:54

relying on Mules to deliver


Mules have been the engines of choice in the mountains for a long time ....

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 October 2024, 12:24:08
Mules rescue party, these owners will probably vote for trump.

Not that harris will be any better for climate change.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2024, 17:23:12
Oklahoma requires that Bibles be textbooks in schools - but wait - there's more !

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/donald-trump-supported-bible-one-of-few-that-meets-ryan-walters-criteria-for-ok-classrooms/75510021007/ (https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/donald-trump-supported-bible-one-of-few-that-meets-ryan-walters-criteria-for-ok-classrooms/75510021007/)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 October 2024, 17:52:04
I think some religious teaching WITH historical context is probably a good thing.

The problem is, that isn't how religion is taught.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 October 2024, 18:49:01

how religion is taught.


"must be the King James Version; must contain the Old and New Testaments; must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and must be bound in leather or leather-like material."

And check out this guy:

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 07 October 2024, 10:08:52
Weather Control, Milton, round 2, get ready.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 07 October 2024, 11:38:16
This is Asheville NC, 200 miles inland from all directions.

No where is safe. Where can you run to.  Veggies is our only hope.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 07 October 2024, 16:35:14
Milton, Category 5,  oh it's ON.

Ran through the same ultra-warm water patch that caused Helene to drive so much water.

It's almost like, this is happening exactly like Woke-Experts said they would. Nah, they is hoaxspurts.

Please keep moving to florida, where you can enter the construction trade, to rebuild towns twice no 5 times a year.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 07 October 2024, 17:54:43

Asheville NC


Many of the MAGAs really wanted DiSantis as the sane alternative to Drumpf.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 07 October 2024, 20:44:28

Asheville NC


Many of the MAGAs really wanted DiSantis as the sane alternative to Drumpf.


On the one hand Tp4 empathizes with the severely disenfranchised, which is actually most people, democrap or repooblican.

On the other hand, and this is of course the wrong perspective, one might think, well, they're not people, you don't negotiate with monkeys, they'll always want banana, how many bananas even exist is irrelevant to them, whether it's an inedible plantain is irrelevant to them, they don't know any better.

More correctly, bad choices have strong momentum, and it isn't until humanity crashes into the wall, which we have, that Mass-Famine changes our mind.  Animal agriculture has destroyed this planet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 08 October 2024, 20:03:47
Milton nearing mathematical limit of hurricanes on the Planet Earth.

They don't care...

While Meteorologists pooping bricks and literally crying on tv.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 09 October 2024, 20:32:03
People gon' Die.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 10 October 2024, 07:46:00
3 Million people in Florida without power. NICE.  Twice in 1 month.

Oddly more people are MOVING TO FLORIDA...   Do we let them? Let the forces of nature handle it?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 10 October 2024, 09:45:19
I am very curious about how MacDill AFB fared last night, but there seems to be nothing coming out yet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 10 October 2024, 10:11:11
More good news for today.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/g4-severe-storm-watch-10-11-october (https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/g4-severe-storm-watch-10-11-october)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 10 October 2024, 15:41:28
Any feel the G4 ?

Think it started during Tp4's nap.  Heard a loud tssssss, in the dream? not sure.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 10 October 2024, 20:39:15
Fema budgets, ok seriously, this is just another BAIL OUT structure.  They say "investing" in resiliance. And yet they rebuild in the same place, adhere to the identical codes that failed the first time, OR WORSE, built a cost reduced version that isn't even as good as the original (New Orleans). 

That's Bail-Out. It's wasteful and STUPID.

There is going to be rapid weather intensification sooner, and more numerous.  This disaster structure is unsustainable.

If we don't end animal agriculture immediately, No amount of money will bail these people out, you will just run out of construction resources.

Large community damage, takes 10-20 years to recover, many do not recover. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 11 October 2024, 08:36:26
https://weather.com/science/space/video/record-breaking-solar-flare-stunning-images-tech-impact (https://weather.com/science/space/video/record-breaking-solar-flare-stunning-images-tech-impact)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 11 October 2024, 10:11:42
Fema budgets, ok seriously, this is just another BAIL OUT structure.  They say "investing" in resiliance. And yet they rebuild in the same place, adhere to the identical codes that failed the first time, OR WORSE, built a cost reduced version that isn't even as good as the original (New Orleans). 

That's Bail-Out. It's wasteful and STUPID.

There is going to be rapid weather intensification sooner, and more numerous.  This disaster structure is unsustainable.
Thankfully it is changing.
In order to get the bailout, until earlier this year, you had to rebuild in the same place and there was strict stipulations as well as limits on how much you got if you rebuilt in the same place. This is why the wealthy salivated when a storm came through, it allowed them to hoover up property at a fraction of the cost as we saw after Katrina.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Fri, 11 October 2024, 11:47:13
Quote
Thankfully it is changing.
In order to get the bailout, until earlier this year, you had to rebuild in the same place and there was strict stipulations as well as limits on how much you got if you rebuilt in the same place. This is why the wealthy salivated when a storm came through, it allowed them to hoover up property at a fraction of the cost as we saw after Katrina.

Also it's really easy to over-insure your property, collect the funds to "replace" everything, and then just pocket the money. Sell the lot for 50k and you keep the insurance settlement. Pay off the mortgage and now you have an even bigger downpayment on the next property.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 17 October 2024, 12:17:11
July 2023, scientists believe is the hottest month in the last 100,000 years.

July 2024, was even hotter than that.

Just wondering how many of these we have left.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 October 2024, 11:37:08
We just had Hurricane Helene and Milton, And everything in its path is already back on fire. 

Large hurricanes have an energy equivalent of ~10,000 nuclear bombs.

This is Hundreds of times more than the total electricity generated by mankind.

So, even with all that Godlike energy converted to wind and water.   These forest fires continue to burn.   

What chance does mankind have. Even if firefighting is the job of every single man woman and child, what good would it do?

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 19 October 2024, 18:46:26
Many reports are claiming this will be a very cold and precipitous Winter
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 October 2024, 19:08:34
Many reports are claiming this will be a very cold and precipitous Winter

Expect death, and you'll be ready.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 22 October 2024, 00:04:34
Flesh Eating Bacteria in the Flood Waters.

This will just be normal in 20 years.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 23 October 2024, 19:38:13
Mcdonald's,  E-coli,  Guy died.

Woman retrieving fone, fell head first between 2 boulders, stuck for 7 hours.

Why Tp4 never goes outside. Boulders, a most dangerous gamble.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 26 October 2024, 17:45:15
Scanning over Project 2025 again, I am completely perplexed as to why they want to effectively delete both the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

I know that their fundamental concept is to destroy the government completely, but what could  possibly  be the benefit of people (regular people as well as scientists) not knowing what is happening in the world around us?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 09:59:40
Scanning over Project 2025 again, I am completely perplexed as to why they want to effectively delete both the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

I know that their fundamental concept is to destroy the government completely, but what could  possibly  be the benefit of people (regular people as well as scientists) not knowing what is happening in the world around us?

This is exactly what Tp has been trying to explain to old people.

It's NOT about any of the stuff they OPENLY talk about. The entire political process is a distraction from what's really going on.

Ben Shapiro. That sonava'b  is Jewish.  Why is he supporting the neo-nazi, fascist, republican party ?

He's NOT, The Jewish people (Israel) gets something out of it.  They don't care about nazis, or transgender, or abortion.  The REALITY of the situation is, They want America to send our country bumpkin soldiers to finish the Genocide they started.

BOTH candidates have already bowed to the Jewish lobby.  They both intend to increase military spending/ activity.

Democrat warlords, doesn't want it to look ugly. They want it to not LOOK like a genocide, even though, that's obviously what it is.

Republican warlords, don't give a damn, they intend to just squish Gaza. (at least that's what the back room deal w/ Israel, seems to be.)  Will they actually follow through, who knows.  Israel is at the very least under the impression that they can ascertain this outcome far more easily under Trump. So he's their horse.

Ben Shapiro, Yamaka wearing social media personality, his JOB, is to get Trump elected. The average republican are just southern bumpkins. They're uneducated, racist, religious, and naive.  They identify as the disenfranchised and with Nazis,  Well then, Ben Shapiro has their back.

This is what they don't want to talk about.  Farmer's kids are going off to die, in a war, in a land America has absolutely no need or use for.

The Military is a solution without a problem. So, they've resorted to creating them for the sake of staying in power and to drink up the civilian tax dollars. They are using their monopoly on violence to enrich themselves politically and monetarily. Every empire of the past has done this prior to rapid decline, and our American Imperialist Regime is no different.



Honestly, this politics they play doesn't matter, in wars, we'll just have millions of dead people.

But if we Do Not stop ANIMAL AGRICULTURE, we will have BILLIONS of dead people.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 10:39:47

Both candidates have already bowed to the Jewish lobby.


To some degree I do agree with this, but your response has nothing to do with weather science.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 11:20:34

Both candidates have already bowed to the Jewish lobby.


To some degree I do agree with this, but your response has nothing to do with weather science.

Everything has to do with weather science.

The entirety of our existence, thoughts AND actions, impact the weather.

Animal Agriculture is our most Extreme most potent failure as a species.  It is a physical violence upon animals, but it also encompasses the Speciecism (identical to Racism) which is the belief that our mere ability to kill/dominate them justifies the action.

Animal Agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation and land based carbon emission when land-use opportunity cost is taken into account.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 11:48:29

to do with weather science.


Again, your Trumpian "weave" avoids the crux of the question.

The operative word is "science"

and its dessimination to the population
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 11:54:57
Again, your Trumpian "weave" avoids the crux of the question.

The operative word is "science"

and its dessimination to the population

We don't know if this information would make a big difference. There's only a chance that it might.

For example, You're about to fall off the cliff.  Would it be faster for someone to simply grab you from falling, OR, would it be better to read you the scientific reasons why gravity exists, and that it is about to kill you, in the 10 seconds before you walk off the edge.

It's never as simple as we think.  Your generation had the time to learn something and act on it, you failed, our generation "MIGHT" need dictatorship.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 12:04:56

our generation "MIGHT" need dictatorship


My hope remains with Gen Z.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 12:10:21
My hope remains with Gen Z.

Skibidi No Cap.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 27 October 2024, 18:21:04

our generation "MIGHT" need dictatorship


My hope remains with Gen Z.


Why should Gen Z give a single **** when older generations have seemingly done everything they can to ensure they have no future. No hope of retirement, owning a home, and most young couples actively avoid having children strictly because they cannot afford to do so.
Stupid people are still banging like rabbits and pumping out kids they can't support, ensuring they continue the stupid bloodline of poor choices.
Couples with enough brain cells to rub together to produce a lucid thought are tactically removing themselves from the genepool. Scary stuff.
It all ultimately plays into the elimination of the middle-class, getting rid of independently thinking and intelligent lower-class people and replacing them with dribbling selfish morons who only care about themselves, right now, and have zero concern for their or the World's future.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 19:00:58
Hope for Gen Z isn't high, with all the digital media addictions and ubiquitous drug use among the lower income classes.

But, they are the generation that will hit the wall, so, they will "Have to" do better, assuming they even have enough time, which Tp4 does not believe they do.

This is the last generation of Adult humans right now, who have a chance at doing anything at all in a last ditch effort to reverse climate change, and pretty much we haven't even started.

Except the Vegans, but there're some very difficult hurdles which prevent further growth, the General Ignorance and Toxic Manosphere culture. 

NT mentions science and education, well, I gauge NT to be in the middle of the curve on intelligence, and yet, he's clearly not able to break free from Meat-Ignorance, despite allegedly facing very real consequences of personal debility/death.

Meat = Strong, even when every piece of credible science says eating Meat = man boobs, cancer, hair loss, diabetes, erectile dysfunction and heartdisease.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 19:29:19

lucid thought are tactically removing themselves from the genepool


This is a colossal tragedy and what angers me the most. They are not "removing themselves from the gene pool" - they are preventing their potential children from ever existing!

Personally, I look at it as really a matter of extreme selfishness. I hear these arrogant little twits saying stuff like "I don't want to bring a child into a ****ty world."

Horse****! I think that they are just too lazy and selfish to accept the responsibility of parenthood and think that claiming to do it for the sake of preventing their theoretical children from potential suffering allows them to feel a false sense of nobility.

It is true that the genuinely stupid and ignorant members of the human race reproduce like cockroaches because having sex is about the only thing that makes them feel alive, but real parenthood is not at all the same as animal mating.

My parents invested tremendous time and energy in making and nurturing me (although I know full well that I was actually an "accident"), and the only way to repay them is to do the same for the next generation. Raising children means devoting approximately the middle third of your life (ie time, energy, money, and pretty much everything else) to preparing them for their own lives. It is by far the most difficult thing that people do in their lifetimes, but also by far the most rewarding.

By failing to continue their own "genepool" as you call it, those with "lucid thought" as you call it, are deliberately working toward downgrading the quality of the overall gene pool of the human race itself.

I am no JDV by any means, and I understand that people who subscribe to the TP4 tissue school of nihilism take delight in watching the world burn -
  - but for those of us who live to appreciate the joy and awe of the universe - well - I would not have wanted to cheat my children out of the entirety of their lives, regardless of the imperfection of the world that they will live it in.
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 27 October 2024, 19:44:30
Personally, I want kids very much. I just can't find anyone to have them with, and at the point I'm at, and duration of being single, I've come to a numb acceptance that I'll never have that family I want so badly. Probably won't ever have sex again in my lifetime. I simply don't see any situation where that would ever happen again.
It is likely for the better, as any 'normal' human wouldn't be able to be single and celibate for as long as I have, even willingly.
Just part of the overarching curse that is my life /shrug
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 19:48:57
Fohat, a society can not function, if every person born is of equal intelligence, equal compassion, equal physical strength, equally good looking, etc.

A society, requires control mechanisms, it requires muscles, it requires transport, it requires expendable soldiers that take orders without much thought of their own,  JUST as a single human body is not composed of cells of the same type.

There are different classes of humans, this is just a fact of life,  but there is not as you say, Cockroach class. The less-minding class are a necessary and valid existence, if not for them in significantly greater numbers than bookish-humans, society could not be built..


The gene pool is optimal as is, you may assume that Today's-masters-of-this-world have the best genes, this couldn't be further from the truth, they have the Controller Genes, and they assume/gravitate towards their societal role/ destiny.

Remember, there is SEXUAL-selection, and there is NATURAL-selection.   Natural selection is macro-scale long term adaptation, Sexual selection is rapid radical changes.

If it was as you say, the smarter the human the better, the smarter the animals the better,  Very quickly, within 10 generations, all humans and all animals would be significantly smarter than 1st gen.   And yet there is no indication of this.   If anything, the distributions in intelligence has mostly stayed the same.

This means, nature actively selects AGAINST intelligence to a degree, WHY does it do this. That's from natural selection.  We are not all supposed to be the same, and we have our own DIVERSE biological destiny/role to fulfill.



As for whether some humans are "too lazy" to have children. Probably, but again, this is genetic destiny. Nature has a programming,   it says,  Under ABXY-circumstances,  do not feel compelled to procreate.

We are in those circumstances Today.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:16:48

I'll never have that family I want


Without going into a very long and convoluted story, I got married shortly after I turned 40 and my (ex) wife turned 30. My kids were born when I was in my mid-40s and it worked out well enough, although I wish that it had all happened sooner. But it just wasn't in the cards.

ps - don't lecture me TP4 you arrogant *******
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:20:48
One thing that has been proven over many studies, over many decades, is that intelligent people seem to be overall less happy and fulfilled. There is something to be said for blissful ignorance. That's why drugs and alcohol exist.
Like Sister Sage giving herself her weekend lobotomy. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:21:57
Without going into a very long and convoluted story, I got married shortly after I turned 40 and my (ex) wife turned 30. My kids were born when I was in my mid-40s and it worked out well enough, although I wish that it had all happened sooner. But it just wasn't in the cards.

ps - don't lecture me TP4 you arrogant *******


Fohat knows alot of stuff Tp4 doesn't know

Tp4 knows alot of stuff Fohat doesn't know

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:24:32
One thing that has been proven over many studies, over many decades, is that intelligent people seem to be overall less happy and fulfilled. There is something to be said for blissful ignorance. That's why drugs and alcohol exist.
Like Sister Sage giving herself her weekend lobotomy. Makes perfect sense.

These studies are murky because there is no definitive definition for Happy.  So when they spread people out, they're not measuring the same thing for each person.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:47:40

I'll never have that family I want


Without going into a very long and convoluted story, I got married shortly after I turned 40 and my (ex) wife turned 30. My kids were born when I was in my mid-40s and it worked out well enough, although I wish that it had all happened sooner. But it just wasn't in the cards.

ps - don't lecture me TP4 you arrogant *******


Gives me some hope still.
I know I'm not ugly, and I'm saying this as a clinically depressed man with almost no self confidence in any other reguard. I'm as surprised as you may be that I'm confident in my presentation, at least. So whatever is wrong is likely a personality fault.

Hopefully someday it works out for 'ol noisyturtle
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 October 2024, 20:55:15
So whatever is wrong is likely a personality fault.

Hopefully someday it works out for 'ol noisyturtle


Though possible, it is highly unlikely you were designed incorrectly.

The totality of the human races is in a situation of evolutionary mismatch. That is the only logical reason SO MANY humans could feel lonely and out of place ALL AT ONCE. You're not the only Shrigma male. Technology moved faster than our biology adapts.

You have to remember, Inter-glacial periods only last ~10,000 years.

It is very likely, that several previous races of Humanoids achieved our level of technology, killed the biosphere, and collapsed back into the ice-age.

With each successive trial, it's improved. That is to say, the planetary genetic construct is already complex enough to create all the things we have created.  This isn't the first time.  It's only the latest trial.   Which also looks to be failing, but there's hope. 

Ending Animal Agriculture is the only solution that's going to buy us some time.

Cyberware/ AI transcendence is the next bottleneck which might kill us.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 27 October 2024, 21:15:24
My theory is that people who live lives of gratitude and awe tend to be happy, and that people who live in suspicion and anger are unhappy.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 28 October 2024, 05:42:25
Scanning over Project 2025 again, I am completely perplexed as to why they want to effectively delete both the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

I know that their fundamental concept is to destroy the government completely, but what could  possibly  be the benefit of people (regular people as well as scientists) not knowing what is happening in the world around us?

While yes, NOAA promotes climate change (climate is their thing), they actually wanted it gone long before it became a hot button topic because of (heavy) lobbying by Accuweather who wants to be able to charge for weather satellite imagery. They used "small government" as an excuse.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 28 October 2024, 08:37:33

because of (heavy) lobbying by Accuweather


How utterly vile!

The venality of the Republicans never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2024, 09:42:18
From the wiki

Joel Myers faced criticism in 2005 when he supported the National Weather Service Duties Act of 2005, a bill introduced by U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) that would have prohibited the National Weather Service from publishing weather data to the public when private-sector entities, such as AccuWeather, perform the same function commercially.Myers has been a long-time large donor to the Republican Party, its candidates, and to Santorum, a former home-state Senator.


The Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs compiled a report by federal investigators that started after a complaint filed Sept. 6, 2016, alleging a “hostile work environment and termination based on sexual orientation and sex.” The investigators found rampant workplace sexual harassment and female employees receiving favors while having sexual relations with their supervisors, including an unnamed executive. The report found Accuweather “did not take reasonable action to prevent and remedy harassing conduct.” Joel Myers, who was president of Accuweather during the period covered by the agreement, signed a settlement where AccuWeather agrees to pay out $290,000 to at least 39 women, institute in-person training for managers to identify harassment, and send harassment complaints to a 3rd party till at least 2018.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Mon, 28 October 2024, 12:27:53
The real answer should be, if you can't be an professional in business, you should have to sell the business. Why do we allow bailouts of the worst people. You were executive leadership at a company that allowed fraud, etc. Guess who cannot be an exec anymore. Teachers, Lawyers, Doctors, Police, etc. all can be barred from their careers should their transgressions be too much. We should apply the same to big wig execs.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 October 2024, 17:48:40
The real answer should be, if you can't be an professional in business, you should have to sell the business. Why do we allow bailouts of the worst people. You were executive leadership at a company that allowed fraud, etc. Guess who cannot be an exec anymore. Teachers, Lawyers, Doctors, Police, etc. all can be barred from their careers should their transgressions be too much. We should apply the same to big wig execs.

It's not that easy, if you examine any high net worth individual, you'll find something unbecoming.

That is because the only way to get ahead in capitalism is to do-evil,  not literally evil, but <bad stuff>.


Let's take the most basic example.  2 people selling sodas. The person with the sweeter soda usually wins. If you tried to make something healthy, it'd cost more, be less profitable, and you'll lose because you can't charge more for it.

They will race each other in sweetness, until it starts to taste disgusting,  then they will add caffeine.

Capitalism, is to sell into what we want, with little to no regard for long term consequences on society.

This process including sugary treats, destroy people's bodies, alters their brain chemistry, create scarcity where there did not used to be, they can't even sleep properly anymore because of the caffeine. It's great for the soda company, it's great for for-profit medical industry, everyone working at these companies think they have a great life. But on the outside, the whole world is its own victim.

Now, we have to charge people money for soda. HOW MUCH. We raise it to the maximum amount the person is willing to pay.  So the person who buys the soda, isn't only crippled physically by the sugar,  he's also crippled economically, because every purchase of the soda, is an UNFAIR, and negative wealth action from his end.  The corporation MUST make profit.  Profit can only be had, if the person who buys your product loses.  AND HE DOES.

That is "nearly" every product on the market, in our current system.

There is no WIN - WIN scenario in capitalism, it will dry up the rivers, cut down every single tree, kill every single wild animal, turn the entirety of earth into a lifeless desert.

The largest rivers these days no longer reach the sea. Since 1970, only 54 years ago,  73% of wild life population died. Wildlife Report (https://www.worldwildlife.org/publications/2024-living-planet-report)

At capitalism's core is a Burning machine, and a Killing machine. It's hard to blame anyone, who do we blame, most of us are just BORN into it.  Blame is unimportant,  only introspection,  to recognize what's happening. If we choose to just keep doing it, well, so be it, we're only hughmahn..


/EAT Veggies!!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 31 October 2024, 07:21:52
Spain doesn't believe in climate change.

Also, Spain.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 31 October 2024, 13:28:29
There is NO PREPARING for this.

The only thing you can do is prevent it from happening. You have to eat veggies.

Civil engineering is expensive, and it is not economically feasible to build a system that can withstand disasters such as this. The cost of such a system and its maintenance would exceed the value of ANYTHING that could be built above it.

At this point, Scientists are confident 3-3.5C is locked in. Which means BUCKLE UP. It's going to get Way-Worse.

The Valencia region is actually one of the Best-Prepared Modern metro. Yet, here we are.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 31 October 2024, 14:03:05
CHICAGO, Oct 30 (Reuters) - H5N1 bird flu was confirmed in a pig on a backyard farm in Oregon, the first detection of the virus in swine in the country, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said on Wednesday.
Pigs represent a particular concern for the spread of bird flu because they can become co-infected with bird and human viruses, which could swap genes to form a new, more dangerous virus that can more easily infect humans.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 02 November 2024, 17:20:51
Spanish Flood victim interview.

“We have lost everything,” Xavi Pons told The Associated Press. He said the water level was above his head inside what had been the daycare run by his wife’s family for half a century, and he pointed to the knee-high mark where the mud reached.

“I have lived here all my life. This had never happened and nobody could have imagined it would,” Pons said. “All of Paiporta is like this, it is all in ruins.”

::Tp4act Checker,

Climate Scientists said this exact thing was going to happen.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 08 November 2024, 20:54:26
FIRE.....

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 19 November 2024, 12:10:03
1.5 C officially dead.

"It's been dead for a while" but now Official.

Really what does that mean..

Whatever value/ wealth a person might "think" he's building, capitalism just flushed it down the toilet.



We got 1 thread the needle option left to remain under 2.5-3C,  EAT VEGGIES.

At least 2 billion people is guaranteed to die horrifically, cause massive migration/ border/ social instability.

We will likely see every country turn into Military Juntas.

You might think, well future economy can't be that bad, you'll just pilfer gasoline from the community and sell it on the black market, the reality is however, you'd be lucky just to get those bags of onions and some turnip..

Forget cars, we'll barely be able to maintain streets.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 20 November 2024, 09:10:32
Here is something good, for a change:


https://phys.org/news/2024-11-enormous-cache-rare-earth-elements.html (https://phys.org/news/2024-11-enormous-cache-rare-earth-elements.html)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 22 November 2024, 11:55:49
Just give up !!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/21/donald-trump-science-climate-cop29-carbon-markets
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 November 2024, 16:31:08
I never heard the term 'Bomb Cyclone' before this week. Apparently it just means windy.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 22 November 2024, 17:35:39
We've heard the term rain-bombs for years now, so it's been around, bomb cyclone is a new word for it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 26 November 2024, 07:58:40
"US Oil Production Is Slowing, The Ramifications Will Be Significant

US oil production is finally showing signs of peaking.
Since early 2023, almost all production growth has resulted solely from productivity gains. The rig count, frac spreads, Drilled But Uncompleted Well count and Completed Well count are now all in decline. What’s more, the EIA’s reported production numbers were likely overstated in 2023. Expect shale to continue to grow marginally in the short-term, but average growth is likely to surprise to the downside from here. Productivity gains will eventually catch up to geology.
 
US shale production should peak sometime in 2025/2026 and plateau from there. Given the lack of capex spending, production growth outside of price spikes will be difficult to sustain. The ramifications will be significant.
The only source of non-OPEC+ supply growth in the past 15 years will disappear. The burden will then fall on Canada, Brazil and Guyana as well as OPEC+ to fill that gap, a difficult task over the medium-term.
And this needs to be emphasized: There is absolutely nothing the new Trump administration will be able to do to stop this. If they want to “drill baby drill” they are coming into power at exactly the wrong time. Politics does not trump (no pun intended) geology.
"

- P. Cret 2024-11-25
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 29 November 2024, 09:06:32
Gotcha!

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/article-abstract/2827124 (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/article-abstract/2827124)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 29 November 2024, 09:12:34
All lies, you must throw out your air purifiers, they are full of satan-ness. If god meant for us to breath clean air, he would not have set all those republican town houses on fire. Pm2.5 is an act of god, and therefore it is good for us, and we deserve it. The rise in dementia incidents is caused by 5g, vaccines, abortions, and the gheys.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 29 November 2024, 13:22:43
"Better take up smoking 'cause there ain't no air."
- Daevid Allen Much Too Old 1979
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 29 November 2024, 21:32:17
That's already a reality in India. Basically there are no healthy lungs in Delhi, from the day you're born, you're living in the smog equivalent to 0.5-2 packs of cigarettes a day, even if you don't smoke cigarettes.

There are no pink colored lungs in this city. Even young people ( <30) there have a greyish/black lung based on autopsies from accidental deaths.

Obviously air purifiers are out of the question, cost wise.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 December 2024, 08:11:37
TP4tissue will love this.

Today Emmanuel Macron said   "We can no longer afford to be a herbivore in a world of carnivores."

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 01 December 2024, 09:03:05
TP4tissue will love this.

Today Emmanuel Macron said   "We can no longer afford to be a herbivore in a world of carnivores."

Well, there it is, the Carnist fallacy.

If you observe nature correctly, Carnivores, are a far weaker species vs. herbivores.


Lions look fierce, but ONLY to humans. Wild ruminant herbivores were hunted to extinction not by lions but by HUMANS (which are themselves herbivores).

BEFORE Humans,  On the big planes, large Herbivores routinely trample lion cubs to death deliberately, and lions/ have only ever existed in small numbers. This is why they have burrows which they HIDE, they are the weaker species.

Lions only eat the Sickly/Weak/Old members of roaming herbivores. They're basically garbage men,  To be a CARNIVORE is to Eat-Garbage.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 02 December 2024, 16:12:34
"For people who care about weather and climate, one of the most concerning proposals on the table is to dismantle the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration [NOAA]. The authors of Project 2025, a blueprint for the administration crafted by conservative organizations, claim erroneously that NOAA is “one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry” and should be “broken down and downsized."
- New York Times - today

WTF is "the climate change alarm industry"?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 December 2024, 16:40:06
It's a group of very liberal professors/think tanks/wealthy ludites, who gets high off the same fossil fuel economy as everyone else,  but they point the fingers at everyone else, and sometimes themselves,  LOOK LOOK, this is what's wrong, we're doing it wrong, I can't stop doing it myself, but this is wrong and we're all going to die doing this.

That's the NOAA.

They (whoever is the/that they) want to turn the NOAA off, because they'd rather get drunk and ride the death spiral without being reminded of Death.


Basically, the NOAA is like the Tp4,  he plays dat gamz on dat 7900xtx wasting ungodly amount of electricity, huddled in a house with air purifiers in every room running 24/7, with AC heat exchangers in every room, pointing fingers at everyone else, and sometimes himself,  LOOK you're all doing it wrong, and we're all going to die.

But the 1 thing, Tp4 is superior at vs the NOAA, is that he eats 100% veggie,  and this is arguably the SINGLE possible solution to the climate crisis.

The fossil fuel ship has sailed, it will never ever stop.  We either go veggie, or DIE.

Animal agriculture is the primary cause of climate change, when LAND USE opportunity cost is taken into account.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Mon, 02 December 2024, 18:32:52
tp, what is your opinion on Bovaer?
People in UK are freaking out lately...
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 December 2024, 18:55:51
From the perspective of the public, That would just be 1-additional chemical out of the Hundreds they're already juicing the cows with.

They should really be worrying about the hundred others, because we KNOW eating more meat greatly increases the net exposure to harmful chemicals, such as Haem iron, AGES, mercury, lead, hexanes, nitrates/ites, endotoxin, neu5gc, TMAO, Heterocyclic amines.  This stuff causes cancer, accelerates cell growth, increase motility (cancer movement).

So just add Bovaer to the pile. 


From the climate perspective, it's borderline useless. Even if every cow took it, would it stop the fact that 90% of rainforest deforestation is due to cattle farming ?

LAND USE is the primary cause of emissions. Trees, and soil are MADE OF CARBON, that is nature's primary way of carbon capture.

The current space occupying 43% of earth's dry surface dedicated to animal agriculture, IF REVERTED, back to forest, is 3x ALL the atmospheric carbon that exists.  The 3 Trillion Trees opportunity cost.

It will literally fix everything, but humanity is too stupid to do it, because Burgers.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Mon, 02 December 2024, 19:05:15
From the perspective of the public, That would just be 1-additional chemical out of the Hundreds they're already juicing the cows with.

They should really be worrying about the hundred others, because we KNOW eating more meat greatly increases the net exposure to harmful chemicals, such as Haem iron, AGES, mercury, lead, hexanes, nitrates/ites, endotoxin, neu5gc, TMAO, Heterocyclic amines.  This stuff causes cancer, accelerates cell growth, increase motility (cancer movement).

So just add Bovaer to the pile. 


From the climate perspective, it's borderline useless. Even if every cow took it, would it stop the fact that 90% of rainforest deforestation is due to cattle farming ?

LAND USE is the primary cause of emissions. Trees, and soil are MADE OF CARBON, that is nature's primary way of carbon capture.

The current space occupying 43% of earth's dry surface dedicated to animal agriculture, IF REVERTED, back to forest, is 3x ALL the atmospheric carbon that exists.  The 3 Trillion Trees opportunity cost.

It will literally fix everything, but humanity is too stupid to do it, because Burgers.



Yeah, this is really sad :(
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 December 2024, 20:02:47
Some comedy..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00236xn
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 December 2024, 12:25:31
What the heck is this thing in South Korea?

It seems wildly implausible but I guess that I just haven't been paying attention.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 03 December 2024, 12:33:47
Korea's upfront government is entirely for show.  Their oligarchs (plutocrats) have 100% of the real power.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 December 2024, 14:14:39
Bro, it's already happening.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Thu, 05 December 2024, 05:30:40
What the heck is this thing in South Korea?

It seems wildly implausible but I guess that I just haven't been paying attention.

Wooow, I haven't noticed that - so what has happened there?
Some articles say it was deep fake?

I remember martial law in Poland in 1981, I mean I was 1 years old, but my dad told me the story.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Thu, 05 December 2024, 09:12:39
France govt also collapsed yesterday. Interesting times we live in.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 December 2024, 06:28:56
Milk = Bird Flu.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna183212

Apart from men who desire growing larger man-bewbs, what good reason is there to drink this stuff.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: kurplop on Sun, 08 December 2024, 07:40:12
Milk = Bird Flu.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna183212

Apart from men who desire growing larger man-bewbs, what good reason is there to drink this stuff.

Protein, calcium, phosphorus, B12, and riboflavin, to name a few. Most milk also has vitamin D added to it which is easily absorbed thanks to sterols naturally occurring in milk. The casein is also valuable in the absorption of many of the essential minerals in milk.

As for the moobies, the amount of estrogens present in milk is almost insignificant and much lower than the phytoestrogens present in soy milk. Neither would be considered enough to significantly contribute to gynecomastia in men. Most cases of gynecomastia are a result of aromatization of excessive testosterone not dietary ingestion of the hormone.

A fair percent of the population are unable to tolerate cow’s milk in adulthood. The rest would do well to enjoy the many benefits of adding milk to the diet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 December 2024, 08:57:26
Protein, calcium, phosphorus, B12, and riboflavin.

It's impossible to become protein deficient, unless you are actually starving to death.

There is calcium in EVERYTHING, again, virtually impossible to become deficient. Milk is also not a very good source of calcium.

B12, DOES NOT come from milk. The vast majority of the B12 found in milk is from SUPPLEMENTS fed to the cow.

Vitamin D, again, mostly from supplements fed to the cow.  Impossible to become deficient, outside of extreme cold climates where sunshine is too cold.

Casein, is a STRONG cancer accelerant.  https://nutritionstudies.org/casein-consumption/


ESTROGEN in milk,  this is actual animal oestrogen, it functions and behaves identically in humans. Which is why it is so crucial in promoting breast cancer + prostate cancer, these being HORMONE Dependent Cancers.

PHYTOESTROGEN- in Soybeans,  DO NOT function the same in the human body, they Bind to the estrogen Binding sites in the body and BLOCK the effects of REAL animal estrogen (example from cows).   This makes it PROTECTIVE for breast/prostate cancers, and demonstrably populations with the highest consumption of SOY has FEWER cases of hormone dependent cancers.

Kurplop has clearly been reading Cow-propoganda.

Facts:

After the intake of cow milk, serum estrone (E1) and progesterone concentrations significantly increased, and serum luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone and testosterone significantly decreased in men. Urine concentrations of E1, estradiol, estriol and pregnanediol significantly increased in all adults and children.

The present data on men and children indicate that estrogens in milk were absorbed, and gonadotropin secretion was suppressed, followed by a decrease in testosterone secretion. Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/


The studies clearly indicate, Milk messes up the hormone balance in the human body.  Cow's milk is meant for BABY COWS,    Not Humans, this should be quite intuitive..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Sun, 08 December 2024, 17:46:36
Milk = Bird Flu.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna183212

Apart from men who desire growing larger man-bewbs, what good reason is there to drink this stuff.

I need milk for my coffee. Need to learn and like black coffee, tried it few times, not as tasty... :(
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 December 2024, 18:12:11
I need milk for my coffee. Need to learn and like black coffee, tried it few times, not as tasty... :(

Almond/Cashew milk. You don't have to buy the expensive cartons. You can diy, and make a fairly concentrated slurry, then just spoon a tiny amount into the coffee and it'll cloud out just like regular milk.

The principal is really just adding grease and sugar.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 08 December 2024, 19:53:10

I need milk for my coffee.


It is scientifically proven that it is the milkfat that does the trick, neutralizing the acid and coating the stomach.

It doesn't take much, but it needs to be the real thing. I use a few grams of heavy cream for my morning cup.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 December 2024, 19:54:41
It is scientifically proven that it is the milkfat that does the trick, neutralizing the acid and coating the stomach.

It doesn't take much, but it needs to be the real thing. I use a few grams of heavy cream for my morning cup.

Fat of any type will do it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Mon, 09 December 2024, 02:13:13
I need milk for my coffee. Need to learn and like black coffee, tried it few times, not as tasty... :(

Almond/Cashew milk. You don't have to buy the expensive cartons. You can diy, and make a fairly concentrated slurry, then just spoon a tiny amount into the coffee and it'll cloud out just like regular milk.

The principal is really just adding grease and sugar.


tp, those are just crappy subs for milk, I tried them all, all taste like afterdish water to me :(
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Mon, 09 December 2024, 02:15:16

I need milk for my coffee.


It is scientifically proven that it is the milkfat that does the trick, neutralizing the acid and coating the stomach.

It doesn't take much, but it needs to be the real thing. I use a few grams of heavy cream for my morning cup.

That explains why I need full fat milk in coffee, not that 0.5% or lower. Years ago, when I worked in office, companies were buying that red milk, 0%, what a waste of money, its like in dairies the wash those huge milk tanks with a hose and what comes off it, is 0% milk  :))
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 December 2024, 07:55:54
Taste is a process of acclimation/ attribution like Beer.

Beer is bitter, and most people not looking to get drunk does not initially LIKE it.

Children almost universally spit it out.

Bitter is the taste of alkalinity, which typically indicates how POISONOUS something might be, which is why we avoid eating something that's too bitter.

Beer IS far to bitter from the taste perspective, and it IS a poison.

Much is the case with Coffee. It's bitter and it's poisonous.

If you've ever tried cocaine, also extremely bitter.

But what do all these things have in common. They trick the brain into pleasurable responses.

Repeated exposure builds Attribution, and our brain (a neural network) is trained to seek out the substance, to look for social situations / life circumstances where we can GET MORE of it, to seek out other people who enjoy it, and build a society of hedonism for it, Drug Dens, Coffee Shops, Bars.

Then Capitalists are like, this is a miracle, these stupid monkeys will do anything for this drug, FREE COFFEE @ WURK.

The strength of caffeine, the dopaminergic effect is ~200% baseline for 20-45 minutes. That's stronger/as strong as SECS, which is ~200% for 15-30 mins.

Each time a person drinks coffee, he's getting a Cognitive high, roughly same level as SECS, the baseline then drops, because your brain is adaptive, Now you're in deficit most of the day, and you're anxious, but you can't explain it, but it's because of deficit. Now just to feel normal, you need some Coffee.  You feel like you MUST GO TO WURK everyday, because that's where the coffee is, that's where you can fill a hole in your life, chemical deficit. The suggestive ability is NOT subtle, we have so many things that can tickle 200% baseline that it feels like coffee is just plebian, but it's actually at the level of the strongest suggestion NATURAL evolution designed the brain to experience, (Secs).

It's not an accident that they put this stuff into soft drinks, it's not an accident that the Brew of OUR ENSLAVEMENT @ the WORK CAMP is Free and it's COFFEE.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 09 December 2024, 08:07:16

wash those huge milk tanks with a hose and what comes off it


I feel that removing milkfat from any form of dairy ruins it.

2% milk is drinkable, but those with lesser amounts just make me want to spit it out. Even whole milk is only 3%-4% milk fat, but it is essential for taste.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 December 2024, 08:45:17
It's got pus in it.

According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. This level of disease is reflected in the concentration of somatic cells in the American milk supply. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and “almost always” caused by mastitis. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000....

A study published in the Journal of Dairy Science found that cheese made from high somatic cell count milk had both texture and flavor defects as well as increased clotting time. The U.S. dairy industry, however, insists that there is no food safety risk. If the udders of our factory-farmed dairy cows are inflamed and infected, industry folks say, it doesn’t matter, because we pasteurize—the pus gets cooked. But just as parents may not want to feed their children fecal matter in meat even if it’s irradiated fecal matter, they might not want to feed their children pasteurized pus.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 09 December 2024, 08:49:52
MEAT,  is being irradiated due to Fecal contamination in the raising/ butchering process. Bon Appetite?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/interviews/schlosser.html

""Let's [talk about] irradiation. ... It seems that, certainly, the industry's argument is that even amongst the best companies -- with all they do, the millions they spend, the amount of testing they do -- they can't guarantee that the meat is free of E. coli. They say that irradiation, which the National Academy of Science and others have endorsed, would address this serious public health risk. Given the situation we find ourselves in, isn't [irradiation] an appropriate response?

I don't think there have been any large-scale epidemiological studies of people eating irradiated meat over long, long periods of time. I hope irradiated meat is safe, and it very well may be. But before you start irradiating the meat, I think the meatpacking industry should be cleaning up its plants, because if you just start irradiating the meat, you're allowing them to essentially irradiate the feces on the meat.""

Wiki:

In the United States this limit is deemed to be 4 mega electron volts for electron beams and x-ray sources – cobalt-60 or caesium-137 sources are never energetic enough to be of concern.

Caesium ?? Caesium?? So they have to do a Chemotherapy to the damn meat before they sell it to consumers, to control FECAL CONTAMINATION,     and you're just suppose to take their word for it, that it's FINE, USDA, it's FINEEEE.....

Cigarette company, it's FINEEE.....




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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 10 December 2024, 08:07:19
"If you’re ever despairing about the state of the world, you can — at least, according to some scholars — be thankful it’s not the year 536 CE. To be fair, it’s medieval scholars, not 21st-century ones, who called 536 CE the worst year to be alive. But hear them out, because it sounds pretty bad. That year, a massive volcano erupted, historians believe, filling the air with volcanic ash. Of course, the majority of people affected by the disaster had no idea what was happening — they just knew it was very suddenly very dark for a very long time. The sun didn’t shine in Europe, the Middle East, and parts of Asia for 18 whole months — or as the Byzantine historian Procopius put it, “The sun gave forth its light without brightness, like the moon, during the whole year.”

That summer, temperatures dropped more than 30 degrees in parts of Europe and Asia (it even snowed in China), so crops failed, leading to widespread famine, starvation, and economic stagnation. Many people who were literate wrote about this at the time — the sun disappeared overnight, after all — but academics didn’t take the accounts seriously until the late 20th century. In 1983, a volcanic eruption was theorized to be the source of the darkness, and researchers examining tree rings in Ireland in the 1990s noted a severe temperature drop occurred in the sixth century. In 2018, researchers published a study pointing to a volcano as the likely culprit after analyzing ice cores drilled from glaciers.
"

- Historian Michael McCormick in Science 2024
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 December 2024, 08:18:09
The sun is about to set on mankind permenantly.

But Fohat is right that most of us here are the lucky few living through peak abundance/decadence/waste.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 29 December 2024, 20:06:47
Twenty big cats - including a Bengal tiger and four cougars - have died of bird flu over the past several weeks at an animal sanctuary in the state of Washington.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvx4d1n4vo
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Mon, 30 December 2024, 17:35:19
Did you see that airplane crash in Korea?!
Jeez... who build concrete wall at the end of the runway?!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 31 December 2024, 03:29:37
Did you see that airplane crash in Korea?!
Jeez... who build concrete wall at the end of the runway?!
What's on the other side of the wall?
Runways are LOOOOOOOONG and finding room presents issues, but that also gets worse as they age and people move in around it. We also have some pretty sketchy runways.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Tue, 31 December 2024, 03:35:46
Did you see that airplane crash in Korea?!
Jeez... who build concrete wall at the end of the runway?!
What's on the other side of the wall?
Runways are LOOOOOOOONG and finding room presents issues, but that also gets worse as they age and people move in around it. We also have some pretty sketchy runways.

Not much, I think there was some road far after that wall.
They emergency landed, birds caused landing gear malfunction, but they would survived it, if there was no wall after the runway.

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/12/plane-belly-landed-skidded-end-96017415.jpg?w=984)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 31 December 2024, 04:16:18
Twenty big cats - including a Bengal tiger and four cougars - have died of bird flu over the past several weeks at an animal sanctuary in the state of Washington.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvx4d1n4vo


Yeah, and some people have gotten ill from food as well.
Not buying my girl anything with poultry until this all blows over. Again.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 31 December 2024, 17:51:53
Did you see that airplane crash in Korea?!
Jeez... who build concrete wall at the end of the runway?!
What's on the other side of the wall?
Runways are LOOOOOOOONG and finding room presents issues, but that also gets worse as they age and people move in around it. We also have some pretty sketchy runways.

Not much, I think there was some road far after that wall.
They emergency landed, birds caused landing gear malfunction, but they would survived it, if there was no wall after the runway.


Did some looking into this... The video kind of misses a few things.

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The crash occurred between 9:03 and 9:07 a.m. as the aircraft belly landed, touching down 1,200 m (3,900 ft) along the runway. It overshot, with video footage showing the aircraft sliding down the runway on the engine nacelles with a sustained nose-high attitude. It continued 250 m (820 ft) past the runway threshold before colliding with an embankment holding the ILS array and exploding. Wreckage from the aircraft continued through the perimeter wall causing partial damage.

Breaking this down
The plane lost landing gear and an engine due to birdstrike and made an emergency landing with a tailwind instead of a typical headwind (which allows slower speed) in order to get down faster and overshot the end of the runway by a LOT(!). Usually the plane stops before or just after the end of the runway even in a belly landing (even with foam lubricating it) and yet this plane not only overshot the runway it overshot the overrun and still went another 25% of the runway length  further. I understand it was a panic situation but pilots are trained for emergency landings and have well established written procedures. This sounds like he came in very, very hot, probably no flaps and never deployed speed brakes, they're not visible in the footage, could be bad footage but I don't believe they're deployed from what I saw, combined with a tailwind the plane was just going entirely way too dang fast.

Planes and airports are designed for a 1 in 10million chance, or at least they're supposed be (looking at you Boeing). This was just a freak accident and possibly some pilot error involved. It was not an airport design flaw. That plane shouldn't have slid even remotely that far down the runway even under the worst cicumstance.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 31 December 2024, 19:24:36
This is why Tp4 avoids the aeropln's whenever possible.

Tp4's ****ty computers break, all the damn time.  An aeropln, is always just a few blue screen away from from getn' ever1 killed.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 03 January 2025, 17:39:51
Seriously OMFG stuff.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/3/2294862/-Friends-of-Gaia-present-cawfeemug-s-report-on-the-Collapse-of-the-Gulf-Stream (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/3/2294862/-Friends-of-Gaia-present-cawfeemug-s-report-on-the-Collapse-of-the-Gulf-Stream)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 03 January 2025, 17:59:12
There are lots of these climate models.

This one happens to predict something very serious happening sooner than later.

No one can attest to its accuracy, not even the author who acknowledges there's quite alot of uncertainty. But a rational person should decide, well why push it.

That's where Capitalism disagrees. It's a drug addict chasing his 1 last rush.  There's no future, just a final leap into the abyss.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 06 January 2025, 20:55:08
Breathing a big sigh of relief about now.

Sometime in the night last Friday my heater stopped working. One of my friends has a nephew in the HVAC repair business, and today (going until after dark with flashlights) he replaced the part and now I am toasty warm. What a guy!

I had 2 space heaters (120V) which had managed to keep my 2 primary rooms up to about 58-60F (14-16C) so I was in no actual danger, but it is scheduled to get a lot colder for a couple of more days. I was delighted to have it all repaired properly in under 72 hours (over the weekend) for under $400.
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 06 January 2025, 22:25:13
We are glad the fohat is not dying any time soon.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 07 January 2025, 22:10:23
So, basically an all year thing now. Every season is fire season.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 January 2025, 12:02:26
Here's another good one from everyone's favorite space *****:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/7/2295737/-Efficiency-by-Musk-His-lithium-plant-needs-water (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/7/2295737/-Efficiency-by-Musk-His-lithium-plant-needs-water)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 January 2025, 12:17:50
Tp4 is confident they can get 8 million gallons. But, Green tech is not going to save the planet in time. It's only going to push us faster towards clipping.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 January 2025, 13:03:02

Tp4 is confident they can get 8 million gallons.


8 million gallons - 30,000,000 liters - per day! - in a drought-striken area is a serious ask.

And he built the factory without a water contract. He chose that location because few people live there. Wonder why?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 January 2025, 13:06:53

Tp4 is confident they can get 8 million gallons.


8 million gallons - 30,000,000 liters - per day! - in a drought-striken area is a serious ask.

And he built the factory without a water contract. He chose that location because few people live there. Wonder why?


Most tech is quite polluting. If they can already supply a million gallons to the town, they can do 8. The people are probably poor enough to work there. They likely considered that for the factory.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 08 January 2025, 14:00:11

If they can already supply a million gallons to the town, they can do 8.


Easy Peasy
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 09 January 2025, 17:52:44
I feel weird about how cynical and unsympathetic I am towards celebrities and millionaires losing their homes in that LA fire. Being poor for a long time really does **** up your outlook and trust in the World.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 January 2025, 17:55:30
I feel weird about how cynical and unsympathetic I am towards celebrities and millionaires losing their homes in that LA fire. Being poor for a long time really does **** up your outlook and trust in the World.

If Tp4 were a firefighter, wouldn't even save those houses, just take one look at the neighborhood, and be like, pshh, they'll be fine.

Drive the truck and go save some poor people's houses.

Deny Defend Depose.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 January 2025, 22:43:43
The Fire-Hydrant ran dry in the Palisades area "due to incredible demand".

Think about that, the FIRE HYDRANT.. Dry.. The one thing that's suppose to always be, !-Dry, to remain perpetually Moist.


It's not a matter of supply and demand when Nature-Bites-Back. We are not ready, the End is Here.

Eat veggies immediately !!


The firehydrant is connected to the main, that's as much water as you're EVER GOING TO GET.

It's also not a very robust system. The average community runs on 1 foot diameter pipes branching from the mains which are only 5 feet diameter..

The 1 foot can really only support 3 hydrants at a time across the whole line. So just do the math, even a 5 feet main doesn't have much simultaneous throughput. 




In a big fire, you're not going to save your house with WATER,  you can save 1 or 2 houses with water tops, the rest is alot of luck..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 09 January 2025, 23:00:47
"I watched in horror from my Malibu beach house as my Palisades home burned to the ground"
- Paris Hilton
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 January 2025, 23:04:42
The stupidity of the ultra-wealthy is thinking that money can buy an "imaginary technology" to save them and keep them alive.

It's like saying, I'm going to do this "thing" so I can survive my heart attack.  Sheer-stupidity.  Instead of not clogging up the arteries in the first place, they're going to waste time and energy on a gym membership in the belief that it offsets eating the grease.

The grease (fats/cholesterol) you eat increases the friction of circulating blood, damaging the endothelial cells (vessel lining) -> scaring -> atherosclerosis.  No amount of treadmill use offsets this process.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Fri, 10 January 2025, 03:18:04
"I watched in horror from my Malibu beach house as my Palisades home burned to the ground"
- Paris Hilton

Oh, that must have been a terrible feeling...
One thing, this situation is horrible, but then you see those comments of rich peeps there and you dont feel sorry anymore  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 10 January 2025, 08:11:31

The one thing that's suppose to always be


In crime investigation, the mantra is "Follow the Money"

Paraphrased for another situation, that could be "Follow the Water" and the southwestern US, in general, is a very dry region.

"Show me the Water" and in the southwestern corner of our country there is precious little of it underground and practically none on the surface. See how I used the word "precious"?

And that is (surprise!) also where a large percentage of our food supply (fruits and vegetables TP4 will be pleased to see) is grown. Fighting giant fires by spraying water on them with little hand-held hoses is like farting in the wind.

The whole ecosystem (econosystem?) is utterly insane and unsustainable. Unless maybe we can quickly scale up to desalinating thousands of acre-feet of ocean water?

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:15:33
We are at 1.6° C over pre-industrial levels now.

We were supposed to have stopped at 1.5° C.
The value 2.0° C has been described as when things really start to hurt, and with climate change lagging behind emissions, and global emissions increasing, it is not possible to steer away from it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:26:25
No, those # are out the window, and they were complete bull**** to begin with.  Those projections were largely based on NETs, negative emission technologies, that are "projected" to be "invented" in the future.

A large portion of the IPCC 6 report scientists polled expect us to hit or break 3C, even 2C is fully dead.

This is going to become absolutely CATASTROPHIC.

The palisades fire alone, is projected to be around $10 billion in property damage, each one of these houses is 4 - 20 million.


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 12 January 2025, 18:55:52
Climate change is NOT REAL. You're all a bunch of hoax-people. Why won't you STOP LYING.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 January 2025, 01:53:56
Tp4 following the palisades fire.

And.   Honestly,  there is a God. Because what are the odds, just burn a crap ton of rich people's houses, in the absolute richest craves on earth.

Guess one could argue, well, alot more poor people suffer before during and after, sure. That's the worst case being, there is no God, and this is absolutely the end.

But overall this is probably the best thing that could happen to humanity, wake up, your money won't save you, we're all probably going to die horrifically even if we did everything right from this second forward.


The insulation that the average middle class and up, thinks they have, it's really paper thin. House of straws.


Biblically speaking, the christian bible is just plagiarized from old Sumerian accounts/legends. They had the whole identical biblical flood story well before christian cultism.


But realistically, looking at the sumerian's capacity, and their reach, which was quite vast, they easily crossed 3000km towards india for those stupid blue rocks.


Any large civilization heavily alters the landscape on which they live, destroying the original balance of organisms, micro and macro.

They didn't know back then, but we know now this is a highly REACTIVE system.   So it might seeeeem like GOD is punishing the lying priests and corrupt kings,  when in reality,  it's just a rubberband system of local ecology, we know the amazon creates its own weather system, atmospheric rivers, etc.   Globally, there is a reactive system For Rain and For FIRE. When the band snaps.  These dumb monkeys better pay attention.

 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 January 2025, 03:26:53
You know, they've "proudly" touted online and in the newscycle how great California's fire fighting army is. 10000 personel, xx fire truck xx planes, xx helicopters.


Here's the thing, All that stuff uses gasoline, the people are fed by farming equipment that runs on gasoline.  So really, we're fighting FIRES with GASOLINE.

Wonder why it ain't working.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 January 2025, 13:11:29

Professor Char Miller of Environmental Analysis and History at Pomona College and the director of the Claremont Colleges' environmental analysis program:::

"The winds were TOO strong.
The flames were TOO intense.
The Topography was TOO dangerous.
And that is a perfect storm."


Tp4:::
Largely absent in the aftermath rhetoric,  Too many cars on the road, too much fossil fuels burned, too many luxury urban development.

WHO TO BLAME, well, EVERYONE.

BUT MOST important, and Missing in all conversations,  ANIMAL AGRICULTURE being the primary contributor to climate change when land use opportunity cost is taken into account.. The 43% of earth's dry land surface dedicated to animal agriculture is 3X the total carbon emitted since the industrial revolution.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 January 2025, 20:40:34
Man, I hate humanity. Human's ability to commit opportunistic evil for personal gain knows no limits.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-12/burglars-dressed-as-firefighters-arrested-in-l-a-fire-zone-officials-said (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-12/burglars-dressed-as-firefighters-arrested-in-l-a-fire-zone-officials-said)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 13 January 2025, 20:49:13

I hate humanity.


It is a good thing that voters select such excellent role models - who bring their sterling friends along with them.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 January 2025, 20:51:38
Man, I hate humanity. Human's ability to commit opportunistic evil for personal gain knows no limits.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-12/burglars-dressed-as-firefighters-arrested-in-l-a-fire-zone-officials-said (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-12/burglars-dressed-as-firefighters-arrested-in-l-a-fire-zone-officials-said)

That's ingenious.

He and every poor person SHOULD steal from the rich.

How do you think anyone gets "That" rich. It's a system of theft/kleptocracy and classist warfare which Funnels Upwards.

I don't understand NT's dismay, considering he's not even that rich.


Stealing from the poor is wrong.  Stealing from the rich is JUSTICE. This is canonical in every book worth reading. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 January 2025, 20:57:19

I hate humanity.


It is a good thing that voters select such excellent role models - who bring their sterling friends along with them.



I never cared for Musk, but the past few years have cemented him as one of my least liked individuals on the planet. I think he's actually worse and more damaging than Trump.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 January 2025, 21:01:17
Stealing from the poor is wrong.  Stealing from the rich is JUSTICE. This is canonical in every book worth reading.  [/size][/color]

This is not the same lens as the Luigi vs Health Care. I'm not one for anarchy, society needs guardrails and consequences. But we need those consequences going both ways or everyone is in danger and nothing works.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 13 January 2025, 21:11:45

he's actually worse


His brain is fried.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 January 2025, 21:38:47
This is not the same lens as the Luigi vs Health Care. I'm not one for anarchy, society needs guardrails and consequences. But we need those consequences going both ways or everyone is in danger and nothing works.

Yes and no.  Under the guise of an infinitely expanding, unlimited growth society. An oligarchic system works fine.

Within the Confines of the earth's ecosystem, the Imperialist regime we have ensures our extinction.  We need communism powered by AI.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 January 2025, 23:25:06

he's actually worse


His brain is fried.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html)

A-hole in a K-hole?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 14 January 2025, 07:42:22

the earth's ecosystem

powered by AI


Like Sky Net, my guess is that almost any AI would eventually determine that humans themselves are the problem, and therefore eliminating the problem would "solve" it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 14 January 2025, 07:45:10
Like Sky Net, my guess is that almost any AI would eventually determine that humans themselves are the problem, and therefore eliminating the problem would "solve" it.

We don't know, but it's better than what we have now.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 14 January 2025, 09:34:03
Tom Tomorrow is always hot.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 21 January 2025, 20:12:25
Turkish ski resort fire kills 66 people, 51 injured.

This is why Tp4 never goes outside. It's so dumb. You go outside to play in the snow, and end up DYING IN A FIRE.

You might think, who cares TP, it's just rich people dying, they're paying for their hubris and kleptocratic life-style. Yea, true, but sooearly there were plenty of poor middle class people who saved up all year just to end up roasted.

SMOKE is more deadly than flames, the smoke can suffocate in as little as 30 seconds. This is what happened in Japan when Kyoto Animation studio was set on fire by a crazy anime otaku who thought they plagiarized his fan-script. The Studio staff tried to escape upwards through a stairwell, but the smoke killed the 34 people attempting to flee.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2025, 01:27:21
Birb Floo,  Take it seriously people.  S'ts gn' Real.


""""Recent detections of H5N1 [bird flu] in cats had these things in common: the infected cats ate wild birds, unpasteurized milk, raw poultry, and/or raw poultry pet food," a Food and Drug Administration spokesperson told CBS News.""""
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2025, 07:57:05
Japanese Seniors commit crimes so they can go to prison, because they're too lonely, and there's no social support system on the outside. In the last 20 years, the elderly prisoners have Quadrupled. Some prisons have essentially turned into nursing homes.

Welp, at least Tp4 now knows how not to be #Ronery4ever if he makes it to 65. Gonna need to research some AI written listicles for Top 10 prisons for retirement.

Probably not California though, cuz they make the prisoners become firefighters, and Tp4 definitely can't run a mile. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 23 January 2025, 08:22:06
From Daily Kos:

Fear of increased ICE raids have already negatively affected the nation’s agricultural sector, causing alarm that food prices could skyrocket in the near future as a result of Donald Trump’s aggressive immigration policies.
Bakersfield, California, saw a massive drop-off in the number of field workers showing up for work Tuesday while ICE agents in unmarked Chevy Suburbans rounded up and detained immigrants in the area, profiling individuals they believed to be field workers, reported CalMatters. The end result: acres of unpicked oranges roasting in the California sun at the height of the season.


https://newrepublic.com/post/190555/donald-trump-immigration-deportations-farm-workers (https://newrepublic.com/post/190555/donald-trump-immigration-deportations-farm-workers)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 23 January 2025, 09:09:18
Meanwhile, $billions in subsidies for the meat industry to continue LOSING MONEY while destroying people's health, and the planet..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: TomahawkLabs on Thu, 23 January 2025, 09:57:03
Turkish ski resort fire kills 66 people, 51 injured.

This is why Tp4 never goes outside. It's so dumb. You go outside to play in the snow, and end up DYING IN A FIRE.

You might think, who cares TP, it's just rich people dying, they're paying for their hubris and kleptocratic life-style. Yea, true, but sooearly there were plenty of poor middle class people who saved up all year just to end up roasted.

SMOKE is more deadly than flames, the smoke can suffocate in as little as 30 seconds. This is what happened in Japan when Kyoto Animation studio was set on fire by a crazy anime otaku who thought they plagiarized his fan-script. The Studio staff tried to escape upwards through a stairwell, but the smoke killed the 34 people attempting to flee.


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Smoke is what "totaled" my house. The fire was almost exclusively contained to the kitchen and the connected part of the dining room. The rest of the house was destroyed by water, smoke, and my house not having power during the coldest time of year where I live (A pipe burst after the fact). Almost nothing in any of the other were damaged by the fire directly.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 27 January 2025, 12:05:38
Damn it now, H5N9....

The updates just won't stop coming.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 February 2025, 20:40:24
Real talk, quotn' super smart guy here...

Renewables is a parasite on the back of the older energy infrastructure, the question is, can it survive the death of their host.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 February 2025, 21:19:04

can it survive the death of their host.


To continue your metaphor, the question has always been, how quickly can the parasite scale up to a size greater than that of the host?

The power available from the sun, the wind, the sea, and the earth, is far greater than what we need for ourselves. But can we build the infrastructure to capture and distribute it quickly enough?

Ideally, new energy would come online at the front at least at the same rate as the old energies drop off the back end.
 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 February 2025, 21:41:26
The answer to that is almost certainly no, we barely have the materials necessary from a "mining" perspective to build the first generation of electrical replacements.

For example, Just rare earths. China has a near monopoly not only on mining, but ALSO Refining. Even if we went and some how got the stuff out of the ground, we'd still have to ship it to China for processing.

We don't have another 20 years to build new infrastructure, supply chains, a WHOLE 'nother CHINA to START whatever techno-copium humanity decides will fix the problem.

And even under the most ridiculously fantastic possibility that that gets built, the emissions from doing such a thing would be way over 2-3C, you're looking at 5 C if you want to build a Second China.

This is all assuming things don't get bad/ tight in the meantime, and there is a population situated in abundant Food_Land uncontested, completely politically stable, to do such a thing, which there is not.

If Europe could do it themselves, they would've already, if America could do it themselves they would've.

China is the only nation that is even remotely close to the concept of "Closing the loop" in terms of manufacturing capacity. They can literally produce almost everything they need. WE CAN NOT.



Unless the AI Jesus thing actually materializes, and it magics all of our problems away, the only thing we have to look forward to is living hellishly, IF AT ALL.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 February 2025, 22:27:40

Ideally, new energy would come online at the front at least at the same rate as the old energies drop off the back end.
 

Not ideally, that's the ONLY way renewables can "WORK" to reduce carbon.

IS IFF we regulate the fact that once new electric comes online, equivalent amount of fossil must be turned off.

What we're doing today is, we build the renewables with fossil, then build new fossil to build more renewables.

It's like, we're a drug addict, we're chugging methadone ontop of our daily heroin injections and we're also at the SAME TIME increasing our intake of Methamphetamines.

THAT IS MODERN CAPITALISM.


Sigh.. You really have to look at capitalism from the lens of Locusts. They don't know how to stop. They come out, they exhaust their food supply, they die.

Tp4's greatest fear is that, Mankind, may be no more advanced than locusts. Tp4, We, would like to believe that the capacity to do better is there, but that glimmer is faint.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 05 February 2025, 19:46:48
Yeah Baby, Yeah!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/5/2301589/-Trump-and-Musk-unleash-their-chaotic-storm-on-government-weather-agency (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/5/2301589/-Trump-and-Musk-unleash-their-chaotic-storm-on-government-weather-agency)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 06 February 2025, 04:41:03
Yeah Baby, Yeah!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/5/2301589/-Trump-and-Musk-unleash-their-chaotic-storm-on-government-weather-agency (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/5/2301589/-Trump-and-Musk-unleash-their-chaotic-storm-on-government-weather-agency)


Good luck Florida and other hurricane states... NOAA is who predicts/projects your hurricanes, I guess you can just deny they exist like global warming and it will be fine.
Also expect a lot of weather apps and websites to stop working as they also use NOAA information. Everyone will have to now rely on Accuweather who has lobbied for this for years, they're the primary alternative to NOAA information (which they charge for).



From the article:
"In fact, the report finding that Jacobs violated scientific ethics with his involvement with Sharpiegate is now offline, replaced with text saying, “These are not the sites you are looking for” (a reference to the film “Star Wars”)."

I swear, Elon is just a frat boy who refuses to grow up.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 06 February 2025, 08:13:32

Elon is just a frat boy


No fraternity would have wanted him, and vice versa.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 February 2025, 08:56:27
I swear, Elon is just a frat boy who refuses to grow up.

That's every rich old guy.

Ironic that society complains that it's all the damn old people in charge ruining society,  Then the young guys come in, and suddenly, OMG he can't even rent a car, he doesn't have any experience.

Just saying, the average person has no idea what's what. He wouldn't be able to stay alive if it weren't for tyrannical rule of some form.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 06 February 2025, 09:44:04

society complains that it's all the damn old people


As a damn old person myself, what I can't understand is greed for wealth above and beyond what you need to make yourself and those around you comfortable and secure.

After that, you are simply into the realm of the "7 Deadly Sins" :  pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 February 2025, 14:21:54
As a damn old person myself, what I can't understand is greed for wealth above and beyond what you need to make yourself and those around you comfortable and secure.

After that, you are simply into the realm of the "7 Deadly Sins" :  pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth. 

It would be accurate to understand old-age as an anomaly and a type of sickness.

We've evolved a mental construct around dying in our 50s 60s. 70s would be rare.

We do not have any evolved traits to handle modern "Addictions". These Vices were not part of our evolutionary track, and so there's no way for humans to process them properly.

For example, Liquor is everywhere, Caffeine is everywhere, Brothels are everywhere.

How is a stone age human supposed to process this? Our DNA, brains have not changed much since then. He could not possibly know that unlimited photographs of naked females would cause neuro-chemical brain imbalances. We only found this out in the last 10 years.


So for the OLD people in "Power". Most if not all of the rich old people Tp4 knows liquors excessively, visits actual brothels regularly, and have near-0 mental patience/ focus, they merely REACT to everything based on preconceptions which they don't or can't update. They are not outright bad people, but their minds are damaged.

With technology, modernity's spontaneously damaging effects push lower and lower into the age group, the rise of Problemed-Youth.

So, now, every person on the planet short of babies, and sometimes babies, are born into a toxic chemical soup and toxic societal neuro-degeneracy (behavioral sink). Young people who can't put down the phone for even one second.

Like the Locust, mankind is likely destined to simply Flame-Out. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 08 February 2025, 14:30:11
....A new bill introduced into the Nevada Legislature would temporarily suspend various rules and regulations related to the sale or transport of eggs in a bid to lower the price of eggs in the state...

Let's speed run H5N9.  YOLO.  Gotta get my cholesterol-code and become fat-adapted. Keto ftw.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 08 February 2025, 15:12:18

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 08 February 2025, 19:31:58
I just read about a local restaurant who is known for their omelettes, and currently the owner is buying their eggs from an unmarked truck in an alleyway at night from a shady 3rd party 'egg dealer' and having to literally haggle auction style with other restaurant owners to get their lots of eggs for the week.
Truly living in the best timeline, making America great again!

I'm surprised there's not a chicken shortage, what with the egg situation. I guess there will be soon, how long does it take a chicken to mature?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 08 February 2025, 19:56:08
Basically, there is a chicken shortage, but what's happening is, you eat dead chickens, well, can you tell it's a diseased-dead-chicken, no?, welp, they didn't think you could tell either.  So..... that's what's on the market.

They should be culled and thrown away, buhhhh.... yum yum..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 February 2025, 10:20:11
Soooooo, they is say dat we n' La-Nina,
 
However, this is still record January,  fears mounting that La-Nina pattern alone is no long enough to ebb the runaway heating.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 February 2025, 10:38:20
Severity of micr0plastix in brains.

“The concentrations we saw in the brain tissue of normal individuals, who had an average age of around 45 or 50 years old, were 4,800 micrograms per gram, or 0.48% by weight,” Campen said.


Soooooo... yea, they gave the example, it's basically the weight of your average plastic spoon.


Geeee, wonder where all the dementia and idiocy's coming from.


https://archive.ph/QBFk3
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 10 February 2025, 10:45:24
Severity of micr0plastix in brains.

“The concentrations we saw in the brain tissue of normal individuals, who had an average age of around 45 or 50 years old, were 4,800 micrograms per gram, or 0.48% by weight,” Campen said.


Soooooo... yea, they gave the example, it's basically the weight of your average plastic spoon.


Geeee, wonder where all the dementia and idiocy's coming from.


but it's got Electrolytes - Brawndo 
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/IHv5Hqp5sqoAAAAC/idiocracy-electrolytes.gif)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 February 2025, 10:51:12

but it's got Electrolytes - Brawndo 


https://archive.ph/QBFk3
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 10 February 2025, 12:46:42
Capitalism,, it's fineeeeee....  Red is a great color for dat Argentina canal.rivers.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 10 February 2025, 14:54:45
not a toxic red algea bloom, no couldn't be lol


but it's got Electrolytes - Brawndo 


https://archive.ph/QBFk3
  Also guessing the Idiocracy joke missed it's target.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 10 February 2025, 18:13:14
If you are worried about microplastics in your body, just drink sewage runoff for 6 weeks and you will break down all the plastic contaminates in your body. Simple!
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/10/wastewater-bacteria-can-breakdown-plastic-for-food/ (https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/10/wastewater-bacteria-can-breakdown-plastic-for-food/)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 February 2025, 08:06:57
Today 100 air traffic controllers were fired. Now pilots can go back to landing the old-fashioned way, using their eyes.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 17 February 2025, 13:36:17
Today 100 air traffic controllers were fired. Now pilots can go back to landing the old-fashioned way, using their eyes.


Other than all the racist stuff, most of these things which reduce efficiency will be good for the planet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 19 February 2025, 08:10:32
Now I would call this an excellent idea.
My guess is that The Muskrat would label it as "inefficient" ....

https://dailypassport.com/cities-with-free-public-transportation/ (https://dailypassport.com/cities-with-free-public-transportation/)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 19 February 2025, 12:52:28
Why the Aliens probably won't come and save us.

From their perspective, If humans figure out the circular economy, how to respect each other and NATURE, the animals, as Jesus Christ did, who was a vegan (probably an alien).    Then, great,  a new species / person in the galactic community.

If humans can't figure it out,  and they GAVE US technology to extend our existence for an arbitrarily amount of time,  what would our contribution be to the galaxy exactly,  At best, we kill each other with the tech,  at worst,  we get to space travel and become a plague upon everyone else just as we've behaved like the Cancer that is killing our own earth.


So, while it is POSSIBLE that Sympathetic aliens, might give us a nudge / push in the right direction, Vegan Jesus Christ,  they're going to have very strict rules EVEN IF out of self-interest not to have to Put-Down a plague species.



This really just means, yea they might teach us a few things like sharp sticks, fire, digging, hygiene,   They're almost certainly not going to solve climate change for us (EAT 100% Veggie).   So,  the momentum in the system now is something like 99% going to kill the planet.


You have an 80-90% functionally illiterate human population who believes eating animals make you strong, it doesn't, it gives you cancer and rots your brain, binded to capitalism and religion which are the primary engines to slavery.    Welllll........   Metamorphosis doesn't look especially likely.  You'd have to be an unusual optimist to bet everything on Phase Change mathematics to come into play.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 25 February 2025, 18:34:07
God damn it.

News headline, "Mystery illness in Congo kills 50."   Onset of symptom to death, only 48 hours.

419 cases, 53 deaths so far.

It's like we're living in the worst movie ever.


"""" first outbreak in the town of Boloko began after three children ate a bat and died within 48 hours following hemorrhagic fever symptoms. """"


STOP EATING ANIMALS !!  All major pandemics were Zoonotic in origin.


On the face of it, WTH, 3 kids, 1 bat,  how could 3 kids possibly share a single bat.

Tp4 long term projection, as the land drys underneath their feet, energy markets around the world contract,  Food Pressure will become ever more severe.   

That is to say, they're probably going to eat even MORE Bush Meat (things like bats, baboons, Jungle meat, etc). Which is the best theory as to what originally created the HIV strain, mutated from "Simian immunodeficiency virus" from the monkeys they ate.  The reason they cut into the jungle was for Timber, large international logging.  The laborers depended on Bush meat for survival. Many local primates were eaten.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 25 February 2025, 19:28:25
Baltimore at 6pm in Feb and it's over 60° F
Someone mentioned it's nice not to worry about the cold weather for a change, but I think this is much more worrying

oh, but climate change is not real right?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 25 February 2025, 19:54:08

climate change


5 days ago here the daytime high was 24F/-5C with low of 16F/-9C, today the daytime high was 64F/18C and the low is 28F/-2C

But this is still winter.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 25 February 2025, 20:01:48
Climate change isn't real. Tp4 says it ain't so it ain't.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 26 February 2025, 13:43:50
Measles killing people again.  Oh yea, the wonderful-Nostalgia, it's all coming back, ConservativeP4.



If theoretically, the alien race was Do'nStuff, (they prolly arn't, but),  and they'd be like, too many hughmahns,   why NOT promote antivaxx?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 26 February 2025, 14:02:44
My kids have thanked me many times for always ensuring that they were properly vaccinated.
The school systems required it and very few people squawked about it back then.

Of course, I am old enough that I actually HAD measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc, as a child.
But I made damn sure to get the shingles vaccine (chicken pox holdover) a couple of years ago!

Let's hope that Brain-worm Kennedy doesn't pull vaccines out of the system out of personal spite ....

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 03 March 2025, 16:52:59
Earthquake in Los Angeles - but USGS web site was off line.

"Ignorance is Bliss" George Orwell 1984
 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-03-02/magnitude-3-9-earthquake-rattles-burbank (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-03-02/magnitude-3-9-earthquake-rattles-burbank)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 March 2025, 17:13:42
What's likely going to happen, is a power plant will blow, and we're all gonna get irradiated.

The iodine pills only protect your thyroid, it won't help with any of the other slower but inevitable hard-cancers.  Ukrainians have a very high prevalence of the Rare-Cancers thanks to (hernob1.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 March 2025, 07:28:54
Japan wildfires.  Forest fires release alot of radia71on.  The soil absorbs the hot particles spread by rain/wind, the trees sequester some of this, part of it comes out in pollen, but if you burn it, it's extreme revolatilization.

Forest firefighters can experience 1-10 years worth of rad dose in an hour.

If you guys live there with offsprings, Consider Leaving if that fire makes it too far south. Women and children are ~5-20x more radiosensitive.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 March 2025, 07:37:01
NYC got dat measles.

MEga contagious.

R-naught is 12-18 for Measles.  If you are infected, anyone near you, not vaccinated, will have 90-95% chance of infection.



ConservativeP4's got his Horse Medicine, Vitamin D, and Zinc ready. FULLY PREPARED. Bleach, well stocked and delicious, the final solution.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 March 2025, 18:29:52
Measles parties.  Oh boy. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 04 March 2025, 19:16:43

Measles parties.


As a child I was sent to friends' houses to get the "childhood diseases" measles, mumps, chicken pox. That was what we did in the 1950s-1960s. No doubt there were "parties" but I never went to any.

But it was not long thereafter that the vaccines were developed. And I still have the round scar (now more of an oval) on my left upper arm from my polio vaccination.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Wed, 05 March 2025, 04:24:21

Measles parties.


As a child I was sent to friends' houses to get the "childhood diseases" measles, mumps, chicken pox. That was what we did in the 1950s-1960s. No doubt there were "parties" but I never went to any.

But it was not long thereafter that the vaccines were developed. And I still have the round scar (now more of an oval) on my left upper arm from my polio vaccination.

Yep, I'm still that generation who has that round scar :)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 March 2025, 06:44:19
Was that for polio or tuberculosis?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 05 March 2025, 10:03:01
Polio. By the late-1960s an easier process - eating a sugar cube - replaced the painful process we went through.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Wed, 05 March 2025, 11:54:00
Polio. By the late-1960s an easier process - eating a sugar cube - replaced the painful process we went through.

really?
In Poland I got it in 1980...  :))
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 March 2025, 09:00:14
There's something wrong with the birds this year.  Seems far fewer of them.  And they are not as vivacious (loud) in the early morning.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 12 March 2025, 09:28:23

far fewer of them.


As a beekeeper, I am deeply vexed whenever a "pest control" van drives down my street, and that is very often.

Our society spews ludicrous amounts of  "--icides"  into our environment, and insects take the biggest hit. Just considering the birds that visit my feeders, even among those who generally eat seeds, their chicks need more protein-rich and easier-to-digest food, and that is usually in the form of caterpillars. From the University of Illinois Extension:

"They do this from 6 a.m. until 8 p.m. for each of the 16 to 18 days it takes the chicks to fledge. That's a total of 350 to 570 caterpillars every day, depending on how many chicks they have. So, an incredible 6,000 to 9,000 caterpillars are required to make one clutch of chickadees."

Those caterpillars are scarfing up whatever is on the surfaces of whatever leaves they are munching on.

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 March 2025, 09:36:47
The Rocky mountain locust was a critical inflection point.

..weighing 27.5 million tons and consisting of some 12.5 trillion insects..

The entire biomass of humans is only 60 million tons.


THINK ABOUT THAT.    What we've lost..   You really think, an Ecosystem can "Take this",  for "How Long" ??


But Capitalism,  Tp4, Capitalism,  we need to see those numbers go up.

Capitalism is Extraction and Externalization of Cost.   The forest, the whales, the pandas,  THEY PAY the cost with their lives.

Our Bank accounts INVERSELY count their deaths. 

Whoever extracts and externalizes and Burns, and KILLS the most, Wins Capitalism.


At the cost of KILLING everything that keeps the earth alive.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 March 2025, 09:19:19
The CO2 lvl right now is the highest it's ever been, in 3 Million years, with high confidence data, 15 Million, with low confidence data.


We're totally going to be OK. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 March 2025, 10:02:29
Sigh.

Let's get down to basics.

When they say 3 degrees Celcius increase global average,  it's about DOUBLE that on Land vs Ocean.

That's almost +10 Fahrenheit average on land, wherever you live.

Our forests, and most of our cultivated "bred" crops, are NOT adapted.  Up in flames, more out of control wild fires > burnscars > fewer trees > less sequestration > more fires.

/Burning house.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 15 March 2025, 07:43:01
So, the entire internet is angry at Wombat kidnapper woman.

Meanwhile, they happily cram Burgers and Pizza into their mouths, adding to the 80 Billion animals killed by humans each year.

This is a holocaust in plain sight and because it's the NORM, it's largely invisible.

Bycatch alone, we kill 5 fish for every 1 eaten, and more than half of that doesn't even make it to consumer due to spoilage from broken cold chains.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 17 March 2025, 14:25:11
If H5N1 can screw up Antarctica,  It can screw up America.  Buckle up.

https://www.science.org/content/article/deadly-avian-flu-strain-spreading-rapidly-antarctica
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 25 March 2025, 10:45:48
Something is very very wrong.

There are no birds outside. And it's already reasonably warm.

Nature is dead. We've killed it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 27 March 2025, 07:35:13
Korea on fire.

At least 26 people have died and hundreds of buildings destroyed in the south-eastern province of North Gyeongsang, with the country’s disaster chief saying the fires had exposed the “harsh reality” of global heating.

About 37,000 people have been displaced, the Yonhap news agency said.

The military has released stocks of aviation fuel to help keep firefighting helicopters flying to douse flames across mountainous regions in the province, where fires have been burning now for nearly a week. More than 300 structures had been destroyed, officials said.

As of Thursday morning, authorities were mobilising more than 9,000 people and about 120 helicopters to battle the fires, the government’s disaster response centre said.


The fatalities include a pilot whose helicopter crashed during efforts to contain a fire and four firefighters and other workers who died after being trapped by fast-moving flames driven by strong winds.

Authorities have not disclosed details of the civilian dead, except that they are mainly in their 60s and 70s.

Last year was South Korea’s hottest year on record, with the Korea Meteorological Administration saying that the average annual temperature was 14.5C – two degrees higher than the preceding 30-year average of 12.5C.




Again.. The business of "fighting fires" with "Gasoline."

Turn around, forget, repeat.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 27 March 2025, 20:21:41
Mass stabbings now, guess 5 is a pretty big number in stabs, he's gotta run pretty fast to catch people vs mass school type shootings.

But this one was amsterdam. 
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 March 2025, 10:33:07
Myanmar earthquakes,  bet these people feel real silly living in a city with skyscrapers.

Falling glass kills significantly more people a year than sharks.

Cities are the epitome of putting all your eggs into 1 basket.   A very tall unbalanced basket.

And in Myanmar and Thailand they don't even have the budget for the advanced earthquake silicone columns that japan has.

It's a death-trap. Just a matter of time.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 March 2025, 15:03:26
Everyone talking about "the earthquake."

No one's is talking about "mankind's Hubris."



So, insurance can't even deal with the problems we have, NOW, they're straight up bailing from high risk areas.

What are we expecting "Capitalism" to do for the Risks in the Future, which nearly 100% of Scientists tell us is going to be MUCH WORSE, and a damned certainty.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 29 March 2025, 16:43:35
Decoupling economies.

What does that mean,  If you had a guy, that suddenly decided, he's going to stop using his legs for walking, and now produce all locomotion through the use of 1 arm.

That's what decoupling economies fundamentally is, STUPID and ultimately-IMPOSSIBLE, the economics simply won't allow it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 30 March 2025, 10:16:51
What people don't quite understand as it departs from the advertising is, Electric is a SECTION, a small section of our materials infrastructure/economy.

It's like saying, You're going to just drink water.  Yea, water is nice, but you will die.

OIL is like potatoes, you can have no water, and NOTHING else to eat, OIL like potatoes can sustain every modern economic sector, this is not an accident, this is a LAW of nature..


Nothing will EVER EVER replace oil in the next 150 years, baring miracle God-Tech wishful AI emergence, this is a big gamble.



So logically, given the very real LIMIT to emissions, the only CERTAINTY isn't that we'll all be driving electric cars, it's that the economy will RAPIDLY contract, and we will be in global recession for the indefinite future. 

And that's the best we can hope for, the only other option is to Fry ourselves and completely blow out burn.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 30 March 2025, 20:34:08
Tonga Earthquake, prayers for these good people.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 31 March 2025, 12:38:02
The perfect allegory,

These macaques figured out how to use rocks to crack open beach shellfish.

Very rapidly, they've virtually extincted their local island supply.


Our fossil power is the rock, our island is the earth, and we're the m0nkeys.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 31 March 2025, 13:35:07
https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/all-arctic-ice-could-melt-by-2027-warn-scientists-2644667-2024-12-04

This article. So, the plot is, 2027, potentially no arctic ice (north pole), scientific study asserts.

Then they say, but there is HOPE "" However, there is hope: significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions could delay this timeline and mitigate some impacts. ""


On an Indian news outlet, IndiaToday.   The same India where living in New Delhi is the same as smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day.

Where Hospital Pulmonology department say, they haven't seen a healthy pink colored lung in anyone in New Delhi, that people in their Teens are already saddled with grey-ish smokers lungs, (who don't smoke).

This Grand Delusion that we share with one another.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 01 April 2025, 10:50:06
The future awaiting us all.

Everywhere all at once.  :D


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 April 2025, 02:08:46
Not gon' lie,  Tp4 thinks we're probably hosed.

""Measles is airborne and can linger in the air for hours. If an unvaccinated infant enters, say, a grocery store where someone with measles was even hours before, he is at risk for infection. ""
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 03 April 2025, 13:52:23
God damn articles like this is why we're all going to die.

""Thallinger said: “The good news is we already have the technologies to switch from fossil combustion to zero-emission energy. The only thing missing is speed and scale. This is about saving the conditions under which markets, finance, and civilisation itself can continue to operate.”""

__Günther Thallinger, on the board of Allianz SE, one of the world’s biggest insurance companies.


If you have Top executives at a major insurance player, who doesn't god damn understand that gasoline only makes up for 30-40% of what we use OIL for,  then it's pretty clear we're fffff..

When they say clean emission technology, what the hell even is that. The vaste majority of that technology is actually electrical only. ALL of which must be built ON fossil fuels, metals, transport, plastics, glass,  are all fundamentally DIESEL powered.

Electricity is also only 15-30% of our energy economy.


The world is so god damn blind, it's hopeless. We're out of time. Prepare for Crash.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 04 April 2025, 06:03:30
The world is so god damn blind, it's hopeless. We're out of time. Prepare for Crash.

Don't worry, Colorado's governor found the fix... Just declare any energy as "clean", problem solved.

If Trump can reroute a hurricane with a Sharpie, we can do just about anything with a pen. I guess it really is mightier than the sword.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 04 April 2025, 19:13:40
The world is so god damn blind, it's hopeless. We're out of time. Prepare for Crash.

Don't worry, Colorado's governor found the fix... Just declare any energy as "clean", problem solved.

If Trump can reroute a hurricane with a Sharpie, we can do just about anything with a pen. I guess it really is mightier than the sword.

Colorado wind farms are driving the whales crazy!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 04 April 2025, 19:19:04

wind farms are driving the whales crazy!


They actually are harmful to birds, it is explained in the marvelous book  "An Immense World"

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59575939-an-immense-world)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 04 April 2025, 23:36:32
Well, in theory,

Drump TANKING capitalist-Consumerism quite seriously, it seems,   

HE MAY,  in fact,   do more for Climate-Change than any person in the history of Mankind.


Not a good guy,  but the Hero-We-Needed ?  :cool:


Tp4 can confidently assure ya'll,  there is no pot of gold @ the end of the economic rainbow as it is currently defined.  If the human economy continued to Grow, and "Blossom" under existing metrics,  we would BURN OUT by 2050.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 05 April 2025, 12:01:11

They actually are harmful to birds, it is explained in the marvelous book  "An Immense World"
They solved this years ago.
Besides the birds starting to figure out that area is dangerous (same for some solar farms), the fix for the wind farms was make one blade a sightly different color. That's all it takes.

Why this was ever a thing I have no idea, they've been painting swirls on jet engine cones for the same purpose for quite a while.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 05 April 2025, 13:51:33
Hang on, what if they see the black one, but not the 2 white ones?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 05 April 2025, 14:02:09
Birds' eyes are oriented to look down in search of prey, but they are also sensitive to movement in the peripheral vision. So anything "winking" at them will get their attention.

My quip was because Drumpf has always claimed that wind blades were especially killing bald eagles - a good dog whistle for his base.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 09 April 2025, 08:48:39
Dominican Republic,  night club roof collapse, kills 28.

See, this is why Tp4 keeps tellin' ya'll. You go outside, and this will happen to you. Only a matter of time.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Wed, 09 April 2025, 09:56:01
Dominican Republic,  night club roof collapse, kills 28.

See, this is why Tp4 keeps tellin' ya'll. You go outside, and this will happen to you. Only a matter of time.


tp doesn't go outside.

Like Gordon goose :)

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 09 April 2025, 11:13:49
/accurate
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 12 April 2025, 07:15:50
Something's up w/dat rain.

It's been overcast and cold, but not particularly, wet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 12 April 2025, 08:46:21
In Beijing people who weigh under 50 kg must stay indoors due to WIND?
Whoa!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 12 April 2025, 12:24:48
The average American man weights 199lbs (90kg) and 171lbs (78kg) for women?

Wind proof indeed. They will never defeat us.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 13 April 2025, 06:30:06
OMG...  SUPER EL' Niño
Wouldn't the bigger version of El Niño just be El Hombre?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 14 April 2025, 14:39:58
It's really stupid to send these celebrity to space.

The bad news, IF one of them dies, would tank the stock market.

Space is a no confidence industry, it barely works as it is.  If that illusion is shattered, you can kiss nasdaq goodbye.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 15 April 2025, 11:25:17
In North Poland, a rouge farmer dumped 700 infected birbfloo chickens in the forest.

Why this is bad, well.. wild animals will come in contact with, perhaps eat the infected birbs, carrying around the virus throughout that ecosystem.

BIRDS CAN FLY... and the poot in mid-air.


You can track it indoors by walking.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 16 April 2025, 21:48:48
It's really stupid to send these celebrity to space.
But Katy Perry said “This is all for the benefit of Earth.”
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 17 April 2025, 00:56:43
It's really stupid to send these celebrity to space.
But Katy Perry said “This is all for the benefit of Earth.”


The most tone-deaf timing since celebs sang The Beatles during COVID
Plus Bezos' trophy wife was on the trip as well (not to mention Bezos just sold his Seattle mansion and moved to Florida. Very worrisome he knows something. WA is a target of Trump as 2nd most liberal state next to MA)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 17 April 2025, 17:26:59
We're pretty scr00d. It's 99.9999% certainty lvl.

We are using more "fuel" than every before, more coal, more oil, more everything. All renewables are really just a sliver, but even within that, they're essentially all inefficiently converted from Fossil.

Green energy is a lie.  The net effect really is, we'll probably just have to turn it off. We won't want to, but we're going to hit the wall, and Nature will turn it off for us.  Then it's lights out, see you in a few Million years. TurkeyP4 reporting from the future.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 18 April 2025, 09:52:05
All of a sudden super cold this morning.

WEather is messssed up.

Doooooooooooooooommm
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 18 April 2025, 10:00:20
We had what I hoped was the last frost of the season about a week ago and I planted my garden. Now I am just hoping for a reasonable pattern of sunshine and rain for the next few months ....

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 18 April 2025, 10:04:42
Tp4's seeds are still indoor nursery right now.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 19 April 2025, 09:40:18
MagaP4 declares climate change FAKE, this is all AI.  Hail is a solid gift from god, water is the source of all life.  Therefore. We shall all achieve heaven if we donate to the right SuperPacs.

Eggs and Baseball sized Hail, now Eggs are delicious they've come down 92% in price, Baseball is God's favorite sport. So checkmate liberals. 


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 24 April 2025, 22:37:36
Wonderful News, Everybody.

Published in 2022, scientists reviewed studies of PFAS in rainwater and similarly found concentrations of these chemicals at levels above what US and Danish regulators say is safe for drinking water. The authors concluded that, based on health advisories, no untreated rainwater would be considered safe to drink.

If that's where we're at, Rainwater is "too dirty" to drink.  Ship has sailed.. That's it!


Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 25 April 2025, 12:52:45
Here is quite a plum:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/protecting-american-energy-from-state-overreach/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/protecting-american-energy-from-state-overreach/)

TL;DR version
"his EO directs Bondi to sue state and local governments to block their climate and clean energy policies and to “take all appropriate action to stop the enforcement” of a wide array of state climate and clean energy laws. His edict proclaims that, “Americans must be permitted to heat their homes, fuel their cars, and have peace of mind— free from policies that make energy more expensive and inevitably degrade quality of life."
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 25 April 2025, 13:04:00
The primary growth in US oil in the last 2 decades is Tight oil, used to make plastics.

We've pretty much exhausted all the easily accessible Diesel-able Heavy stuff. There is no "Unleash" American energy, maybe you can make a case for "Unleash" American "Plastics".  This is why we have to import oil, despite being the world's leading producer.

The only thing we've got left is,  screw up the middle east, so the Saudis continue to have to sell us more diesel.


That's where the energy politics/ infrastructure is.


This is also why Pu7n's not afraid of America, he's got Diesel, the Truest of all currencies in existence..

$$$ means nothing, it's just numbers.  Whoever has Diesel is King.


ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you buy, the primary cost,  DIESEL.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 25 April 2025, 17:58:59
What I find particularly funny is finally removing unneeded food dyes and preservatives from foods and floride from drinking water, while simultaneously approving less pollution regulations for factories and loosing FDA regulations on food quality production.
Who are you trying to fool here?
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 25 April 2025, 18:35:26
There was no plan last time, there's no plan this time. Exactly like every other administration.


Democrats,  Kill the planet, Business as usual, Kick the working poor

Republicans, Kill the planet faster, Business as usual, Kick the working poor even harder
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 27 April 2025, 16:34:50
Out in the yard today, not going to be many days like these left.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 April 2025, 16:20:31
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 02 May 2025, 05:02:19
Extreme drought.

It should be raining non-stop. It hasn't rained much all spring.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 16 May 2025, 03:28:17
EROI. You can't get rich people to stop talking about it. They pick 1 number, and that number has to be as high as possible.

It's the most dangerous reductionist idiocy that mankind is plagued with.  The opposite end of EROI, is 100% pollution > 100% death of the ecosystem.


Bigger number is better, completely dis-connected from "web" of life which ultimately sponsors / under-writes our specie's very existence..
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 17 May 2025, 13:31:59

It hasn't rained much all spring.


We have gotten reasonable rain in East Tennessee. Not as consistent as I would like, but not terribly problematic.

Seems like we will get dry spells of a week or much more at a time, then the occasional serious deluge. Last night we got over an inch between midnight and dawn.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 17 May 2025, 15:14:22
Severe drough.t
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 May 2025, 16:09:55
Dengue and Chikungunya on course to become endemic in Europe.


Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 May 2025, 16:56:44
On a remote island, up to 1/5 the body weight of seabirds is PLASTIC.

PFAS ftw! Total Yumyum.

""Since Dr Lavers’s first visit in 2008, she has witnessed an increase from about three quarters of birds carrying about five to 10 pieces of plastic, to every single bird having 50 or more pieces.

Until last month, the most they had ever found was 403 pieces in 2024.

“I’m sad to say just yesterday we blew [the record] out of the water, and our new record holder is 778 pieces of plastic in an 80-day-old seabird chick, in one of the most pristine corners of our planet.”

Arranged on a sheet, the mosaic of plastic could be mistaken for a piece of art.""


All from 1 bird.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-15/birds-crunch-full-plastic-losing-war-waste/105221266
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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 18 May 2025, 17:34:26
We're hosed.

https://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2025/CloudFeedback.13May2025.pdf
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 24 May 2025, 11:00:48
Insect "biomass total" dropping approximately 2% per year.

Already down 50-75% vs the last 100 years.


The future looks awesome. No more pesky buggos.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 24 May 2025, 11:11:35

Incest "biomass total" dropping approximately 2% per year.


That's good, incest is pretty nasty business.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 24 May 2025, 11:15:25

Incest "biomass total" dropping approximately 2% per year.


That's good, incest is pretty nasty business.


Hahahahahahahahahaha.......

Study done in Nature preserve in Puerto Rico,  Heat spikes are making insects sterile.

The tropics normally has a very stable temp. But climate change has increased heat spike days from approx 2 to now, 12.

The experiment exposed captured Beetles to the abnormal duration of heat. During abnormal heat, the fertility of the beetles were halved, and then given a week to recover,  after-which they discovered, the Beetles became Sterile.


So, even not accounting for DDT, and all the other crazy biowarfare stuff we're legally required to Spray to get crop insurance,  Well, the heat alone is a biodiversity catastrophe.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 24 May 2025, 12:16:47

a biodiversity catastrophe


My first "serious outdoor project" was a butterfly collection in the late-1950s, age ~6.

My father made me a net and I ranged my allotted territory of approximately 2-3 blocks in each direction in our residential neighborhood. Within a couple of years I had a pretty nice collection of at least twenty good specimens of larger butterflies - including a few moths (I liked all of them but ignored anything smaller than about the size of a half dollar for the collection).

Fast-forward 60+ years and I seldom see any butterfly, and even then they are almost always small and only from a very limited spectrum of choices. Even when I hike semi-regularly in the Smoky Mountains I see precious few of them - even miles from "civilization" ....

I have established a patch of milkweed (roughly 10 feet in diameter) (which is hard to start but then becomes invasive) in hopes of attracting Monarchs. This is the 3rd year and I have yet to see one here.

Don't even get me started on trying to keep 2 beehives going!
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 24 May 2025, 13:38:42
Pretty soon, the government will be trying to keep bees alive by the use of Air-Conditioning,  because let's face it, today's societal solution to everything is more coal and more diesel.

Not, hey let's eat veggies, reduce energy, return the land to nature.

M0ar economy, m0ar gas.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 May 2025, 17:33:09
Major bird population collapse across the US.

State of the Birds Report, Cornell.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 May 2025, 17:50:15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis

This why Tp4 recommends never going to the outside, except Costco, for watermelons, and pasta.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 May 2025, 18:16:07
Strong article.  Green capitalism, a straight lie.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/there-is-no-such-thing-as-green-capitalism/


Pretty intense wording, though Tp4 would not make the leap that they iz says.

""The problem is not how money is spent; the problem is that money exists. Money can never serve as the material foundation of truly social wealth. A simple thought experiment confirms this: in a world where everyone would possess the exact same amount of money, all money would be worthless. Money’s only purpose is to be taken away, hoarded, and used to renew and expand the value metabolism that necessarily threatens the universal metabolism of nature.""
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 28 May 2025, 22:26:55
GPT psychosis.

It's a thing now, we're living it.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 29 May 2025, 15:53:10
This what happens when you go to places like this on the outside.

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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 31 May 2025, 12:24:17
https://historyfacts.com/science-industry/article/what-the-world-smelled-like-before-industrialization/ (https://historyfacts.com/science-industry/article/what-the-world-smelled-like-before-industrialization/)
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 31 May 2025, 12:43:13
https://historyfacts.com/science-industry/article/what-the-world-smelled-like-before-industrialization/ (https://historyfacts.com/science-industry/article/what-the-world-smelled-like-before-industrialization/)


You don't have to read the article fohat. You can experience this first hand MILES away from any slaughterhouse or cow/pork farm.

Why anyone eats meat knowing the EXTREME-unsanitary condition from which they're raised, because it's hidden from view.

Meat comes out of a toilet. An animal-toilet.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 01 June 2025, 09:02:44
"The National Weather Service costs the average American $4 per year in today’s inflated dollars and offers an 8,000 percent annual return on investment, according to 2024 estimates."

- Michael Lowry - New York Times

Welcome to hurricane season 2025 !
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 02 June 2025, 20:27:24
"Staff of the Federal Emergency Management Agency were left baffled on Monday after the head of the U.S. disaster agency said during a briefing that he had not been aware the country has a hurricane season, according to four sources familiar with the situation."

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 June 2025, 21:41:13
We're doing fine, everything is GREAT, this is the best country in the world, the most respected, and we have freedom fries.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 03 June 2025, 07:27:34
Go outside Tp4, it's where all the stuff is.

NO THANKS! Not interested. There's no PC or neXTXs outside.

Also, people running from an erupting volcano they've spent vacation money visiting. Money they stole from the working poor.


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Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 June 2025, 15:28:34
John Morales is a respected senior weather man in Miami's NBC6

"But specifically, let's talk about the federal government cuts to the National Weather Service and to NOAA. Did you know that the Central and South Florida weather offices are currently basically 20 to 40% understaffed? From Tampa to Key West, including the Miami office, 20 to 40% understaffed.

Now, this type of staffing shortage is having effects across the nation because there has been a nearly 20% reduction in weather balloon releases and launches that carry those weather radiosondes. And what we are starting to see is that the quality of those forecasts is becoming degraded.

There's also a chance because of some of these cuts that NOAA hurricane hunter aircraft will not be able to fly this year and, with less reconnaissance missions, may be flying blind. And we may not exactly know how strong a hurricane is before it reaches the coastline, like what happened a couple of years ago with Hurricane Otis in Acapulco, Mexico.
"

Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 June 2025, 02:10:22
Doooooooooooom....

Supr gud' article.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/03/climate-species-collapse-ecology-insects-nature-reserves-aoe
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 June 2025, 02:53:48
A major misconception is you can TURN THINGS AROUND as quickly as you've ruined it.

So, we turn on the Guzzaline machines, it does xx amount of heating and climate destruction in yy amount of time.

There is an expectation that, ok is'bad, but let's get to the end, then turn it off, and everything goes back to normal. Literally nothing works like that.

Once you snap the coke tab, it ain't ever going back.  Something like glaciers take 100s of thousands to millions of years to "reform."

The rise of everything we know (guzzaline koltour'), happened in the last 200 years, and we "expect", if we just cold turkey it when it gets REALLY BAD,  it'll go back in 20 years, no monkey'o'pal,  try 2 Million.  There won't be any humans around. It will be the Turkey-people's turn.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 06 June 2025, 12:55:19
HERE WE GO AGAIN !! Climate change is not real, we need m0ar suburbs, m0ar nvklar weapons, AMeri(a military #1...

(https://i.imgur.com/WUgkcNy.jpeg)

""""Massive wildfires burning out of control in western and central Canada are forcing thousands to flee as dire forecasts for the country’s fire season come to fruition. The intensifying blazes are also sending hazardous smoke toward major cities in the United States.

The premiers of Manitoba and Saskatchewan provinces have declared monthlong states of emergency, and much of Canada, from the Northwest Territories and Alberta to Ontario, are at “extreme” risk of wildfires on Friday — the highest level on Environment Canada’s fire risk scale.

There are just over 170 wildfires burning across Canada as of Thursday, according to the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Center, about half of them uncontrolled. The country raised its National Preparedness Level to 5 of 5 on Thursday, unusually high for this early in the fire season. Last year, Canada didn’t reach that level until July 15.""""
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 07 June 2025, 15:51:33
Study done on Insect Bio-mass measurement in German forest, 1989 - 2017, 27 years, a 76% seasonal decline and mid-summer decline of 82%.

And most of the collection was done in designated nature-preserves.

Voting for anyone other than Bernie Sanders, is going to get us all killed. The war machine must stop.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0185809


Subsequent studies on Birds, have also shown a mirroring yearly decline rate as the insects ~2% per year (global rate).

Tp4's yard has far fewer birds, and morning bird sounds are far reduced, it used to be deafening at 4-5am.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 08 June 2025, 16:31:16
So, to arrest 4 meters worth of sea level rise into Arctic-ice requires us to be at PRE-industrial Carbon PPM, and would take thousands of years.

GG, hughmhans.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2025, 13:47:40
Greta Tu erg, damn, if she was actually good looking like Jane Goodall, she could stop the genocide.

Yet, if she was that good looking, she probably wouldn't do what she does.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 10 June 2025, 15:34:32
You can see how, political drama, which doesn't matter much at all, entirely replaces the DIRE reality in the public mindset.

Pages and pages of front headlines for Dr ump,  entirely pushing the MAJOR MAJOR canadian wildfires out of space.

Even, them removing all US vaccine advisors, replaced with stooges barely got any press.


The framework for disaster is locked into this "Capitalist System."  Where power/money/status  is defined as the only benchmark for society.


This is hopelessly animalistic feral behavior, and mankind will not survive its primitivist obsession.
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: phinix on Wed, 11 June 2025, 09:08:53
Greta Tu erg, damn, if she was actually good looking like Jane Goodall, she could stop the genocide.

Yet, if she was that good looking, she probably wouldn't do what she does.


Yep, with her face, she's definitely getting a role in season 3 of Last of Us... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: This year may be biblical
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 June 2025, 14:06:56
"NIHHIS was founded at the close of the Obama administration to consolidate the expertise of heat specialists from 20 agencies. Its structure and mission is modeled after efforts to address drought.

As former President Joe Biden emphasized a whole-of-government approach to climate change, NIHHIS worked to develop online tools like HeatRisk and the Heat Health Tracker — both of which explain how temperature forecasts can affect human health. Those tools are valuable for local emergency planners as they decide when to open cooling centers. Health care workers also use them to prepare for surges in heat-related illnesses.

The slash-and-burn dopes from DOGE carried out their purge across the executive branch and sometimes beyond. Demands for mission changes plus voluntary and forced separations wiped out a bunch of federal heat experts just as ever more states and local communities are desperate for advice and assistance to deal with what is no longer a few heatwaves in a few of the usual places. Unfortunately, unlike the nuclear safety specialists they early on fired and then scrambled to rehire, the heat experts who aren’t out the door already soon will be.

Juli Trtanj, who was NIHHIS executive director until May retired from [the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] NOAA. She co-chaired the task force with experts from the CDC, the Department of Health and Human Services, and FEMA. All of them are gone. What has been lost is the ability to actually help people understand what heat means for them and what to do about it,” Trtanj told POLITICO’s E&E News. “There is so much institutional knowledge that has just walked out the door.”"

- Ariel Wittenberg - Climatewire 2025-06-10