I love this, and it will be an instabuy from me. I have a request though. Although the renders are really nice, I would appreciate if you just made some simple renders that more clearly show all the board's details. Please?
Why no price? seems like this should be known already if there has already been a china only gb.The main reason behind is there are several factors need to be reconsider when announcing the price. since there will be vendor charges and shipping charges occured. we dont want to announce it too early then fail to meet the price.
No wonder something seemed off about this keyboard designer... They work with Keysponssory aka CMM.
I took a look at your Discord and it seems you guys were also late on Haven65. Interesting how people keep giving Freather money after the disastrous Fuji65 and Saka65 GBs.
For anyone unfamiliar, Freather and CMM ran two GBs back to back with an ETA of less than half a year. It took them almost 2 years to deliver those boards. Similarly with the Haven65, the GB was from 9/22-10/22 with an ETA of 5-6 months. They claim that they already shipped the cases to vendors in May of 2023 (7 months later). Assuming they did the same thing and shipped by sea (like they did with Saka and Fuji), it'll be several more months before GB joiners get their keyboards, putting the actual time line to almost 1 year.
Oh and let me also talk about the QC Freather and CMM had with Fuji's and Sakas... There was basically no QC! Boards arrived damaged, plates did not fit. The pink ano turned out orange. PCBs had issues. Boards received were mostly C-stock. Issues that they knew about from prototyping ended up making it to final product. Issues that content creators brought up, ignored.
Did they try to make things right? Hell no! Freather and CMM began banning anyone who asked for the status of the projects. They even flooded the Discords with alts that simped for them. You couldn't complain or give any criticism because you'd get harassed by their alts and banned. All of the vendors who joined in as proxies got shafted! Ask Deskhero about the nightmare they went through with refund request. Some vendors even had to pay out of their pocket to fix the plate issues that CMM and Freather refused to take responsibility for.
For all of this, I will never support CMM, Keysponssory, Freather, or anyone involved with them. Do not give these people your money. Do not fall for this GB. Close your wallets and look elsewhere to designers and vendors who have cared about their customers.
No wonder something seemed off about this keyboard designer... They work with Keysponssory aka CMM.
I took a look at your Discord and it seems you guys were also late on Haven65. Interesting how people keep giving Freather money after the disastrous Fuji65 and Saka65 GBs.
For anyone unfamiliar, Freather and CMM ran two GBs back to back with an ETA of less than half a year. It took them almost 2 years to deliver those boards. Similarly with the Haven65, the GB was from 9/22-10/22 with an ETA of 5-6 months. They claim that they already shipped the cases to vendors in May of 2023 (7 months later). Assuming they did the same thing and shipped by sea (like they did with Saka and Fuji), it'll be several more months before GB joiners get their keyboards, putting the actual time line to almost 1 year.
Oh and let me also talk about the QC Freather and CMM had with Fuji's and Sakas... There was basically no QC! Boards arrived damaged, plates did not fit. The pink ano turned out orange. PCBs had issues. Boards received were mostly C-stock. Issues that they knew about from prototyping ended up making it to final product. Issues that content creators brought up, ignored.
Did they try to make things right? Hell no! Freather and CMM began banning anyone who asked for the status of the projects. They even flooded the Discords with alts that simped for them. You couldn't complain or give any criticism because you'd get harassed by their alts and banned. All of the vendors who joined in as proxies got shafted! Ask Deskhero about the nightmare they went through with refund request. Some vendors even had to pay out of their pocket to fix the plate issues that CMM and Freather refused to take responsibility for.
For all of this, I will never support CMM, Keysponssory, Freather, or anyone involved with them. Do not give these people your money. Do not fall for this GB. Close your wallets and look elsewhere to designers and vendors who have cared about their customers.
No wonder something seemed off about this keyboard designer... They work with Keysponssory aka CMM.
I took a look at your Discord and it seems you guys were also late on Haven65. Interesting how people keep giving Freather money after the disastrous Fuji65 and Saka65 GBs.
For anyone unfamiliar, Freather and CMM ran two GBs back to back with an ETA of less than half a year. It took them almost 2 years to deliver those boards. Similarly with the Haven65, the GB was from 9/22-10/22 with an ETA of 5-6 months. They claim that they already shipped the cases to vendors in May of 2023 (7 months later). Assuming they did the same thing and shipped by sea (like they did with Saka and Fuji), it'll be several more months before GB joiners get their keyboards, putting the actual time line to almost 1 year.
Oh and let me also talk about the QC Freather and CMM had with Fuji's and Sakas... There was basically no QC! Boards arrived damaged, plates did not fit. The pink ano turned out orange. PCBs had issues. Boards received were mostly C-stock. Issues that they knew about from prototyping ended up making it to final product. Issues that content creators brought up, ignored.
Did they try to make things right? Hell no! Freather and CMM began banning anyone who asked for the status of the projects. They even flooded the Discords with alts that simped for them. You couldn't complain or give any criticism because you'd get harassed by their alts and banned. All of the vendors who joined in as proxies got shafted! Ask Deskhero about the nightmare they went through with refund request. Some vendors even had to pay out of their pocket to fix the plate issues that CMM and Freather refused to take responsibility for.
For all of this, I will never support CMM, Keysponssory, Freather, or anyone involved with them. Do not give these people your money. Do not fall for this GB. Close your wallets and look elsewhere to designers and vendors who have cared about their customers.
What does Fuji/Sakas have anything to do with Haven? I'm not a fan of Fuji boards and definitely not a fan of their discord, so I quit their discord. The way they handle the community really sucks.
My experience with papamao/haven/china gb has been nothing but amazing. I got my haven 65 in time and the quality is top notch. I joined china haven tkl gb and look forward to build mine.
You're mixing haven with other stuffs that're not relevant.
No wonder something seemed off about this keyboard designer... They work with Keysponssory aka CMM.
I took a look at your Discord and it seems you guys were also late on Haven65. Interesting how people keep giving Freather money after the disastrous Fuji65 and Saka65 GBs.
For anyone unfamiliar, Freather and CMM ran two GBs back to back with an ETA of less than half a year. It took them almost 2 years to deliver those boards. Similarly with the Haven65, the GB was from 9/22-10/22 with an ETA of 5-6 months. They claim that they already shipped the cases to vendors in May of 2023 (7 months later). Assuming they did the same thing and shipped by sea (like they did with Saka and Fuji), it'll be several more months before GB joiners get their keyboards, putting the actual time line to almost 1 year.
Oh and let me also talk about the QC Freather and CMM had with Fuji's and Sakas... There was basically no QC! Boards arrived damaged, plates did not fit. The pink ano turned out orange. PCBs had issues. Boards received were mostly C-stock. Issues that they knew about from prototyping ended up making it to final product. Issues that content creators brought up, ignored.
Did they try to make things right? Hell no! Freather and CMM began banning anyone who asked for the status of the projects. They even flooded the Discords with alts that simped for them. You couldn't complain or give any criticism because you'd get harassed by their alts and banned. All of the vendors who joined in as proxies got shafted! Ask Deskhero about the nightmare they went through with refund request. Some vendors even had to pay out of their pocket to fix the plate issues that CMM and Freather refused to take responsibility for.
For all of this, I will never support CMM, Keysponssory, Freather, or anyone involved with them. Do not give these people your money. Do not fall for this GB. Close your wallets and look elsewhere to designers and vendors who have cared about their customers.
What does Fuji/Sakas have anything to do with Haven? I'm not a fan of Fuji boards and definitely not a fan of their discord, so I quit their discord. The way they handle the community really sucks.
My experience with papamao/haven/china gb has been nothing but amazing. I got my haven 65 in time and the quality is top notch. I joined china haven tkl gb and look forward to build mine.
You're mixing haven with other stuffs that're not relevant.
The guy(s) behind this project are working with CMM and Freather, the scumbags behind Saka/Fuji. Just looking at the US GB for Haven65 already makes this project, Haven TKL, look bad. Haven65 GB was from mid September to mid October 2022, with an ETA of 5-6 months. They are already 8 months and still haven't shipped to vendors or fulfilled. Literally what happened with the Fuji and Saka!
They claimed a 6-8 month ETA, didn't deliver on time, weren't very transparent about the status, and when they said they had shipped, it took almost another year to get tracking... All while completely dropping the ball on QC and basic checking. The plates they shipped were unusable, with some vendors having to step in and fix the issue themselves!
Oh and did I mention the scumbagery?! They silenced anyone asking questions, criticizing them, or asking for refunds. They literally took no blame! Everyone who joined were SOL!
EDIT: Autocorrect
This is why I am voicing my concern and asking others to steer the heck away from any projects that CMM, Freather, or Keysponssory touch.
No wonder something seemed off about this keyboard designer... They work with Keysponssory aka CMM.
I took a look at your Discord and it seems you guys were also late on Haven65. Interesting how people keep giving Freather money after the disastrous Fuji65 and Saka65 GBs.
For anyone unfamiliar, Freather and CMM ran two GBs back to back with an ETA of less than half a year. It took them almost 2 years to deliver those boards. Similarly with the Haven65, the GB was from 9/22-10/22 with an ETA of 5-6 months. They claim that they already shipped the cases to vendors in May of 2023 (7 months later). Assuming they did the same thing and shipped by sea (like they did with Saka and Fuji), it'll be several more months before GB joiners get their keyboards, putting the actual time line to almost 1 year.
Oh and let me also talk about the QC Freather and CMM had with Fuji's and Sakas... There was basically no QC! Boards arrived damaged, plates did not fit. The pink ano turned out orange. PCBs had issues. Boards received were mostly C-stock. Issues that they knew about from prototyping ended up making it to final product. Issues that content creators brought up, ignored.
Did they try to make things right? Hell no! Freather and CMM began banning anyone who asked for the status of the projects. They even flooded the Discords with alts that simped for them. You couldn't complain or give any criticism because you'd get harassed by their alts and banned. All of the vendors who joined in as proxies got shafted! Ask Deskhero about the nightmare they went through with refund request. Some vendors even had to pay out of their pocket to fix the plate issues that CMM and Freather refused to take responsibility for.
For all of this, I will never support CMM, Keysponssory, Freather, or anyone involved with them. Do not give these people your money. Do not fall for this GB. Close your wallets and look elsewhere to designers and vendors who have cared about their customers.
What does Fuji/Sakas have anything to do with Haven? I'm not a fan of Fuji boards and definitely not a fan of their discord, so I quit their discord. The way they handle the community really sucks.
My experience with papamao/haven/china gb has been nothing but amazing. I got my haven 65 in time and the quality is top notch. I joined china haven tkl gb and look forward to build mine.
You're mixing haven with other stuffs that're not relevant.
The guy(s) behind this project are working with CMM and Freather, the scumbags behind Saka/Fuji. Just looking at the US GB for Haven65 already makes this project, Haven TKL, look bad. Haven65 GB was from mid September to mid October 2022, with an ETA of 5-6 months. They are already 8 months and still haven't shipped to vendors or fulfilled. Literally what happened with the Fuji and Saka!
They claimed a 6-8 month ETA, didn't deliver on time, weren't very transparent about the status, and when they said they had shipped, it took almost another year to get tracking... All while completely dropping the ball on QC and basic checking. The plates they shipped were unusable, with some vendors having to step in and fix the issue themselves!
Oh and did I mention the scumbagery?! They silenced anyone asking questions, criticizing them, or asking for refunds. They literally took no blame! Everyone who joined were SOL!
EDIT: Autocorrect
This is why I am voicing my concern and asking others to steer the heck away from any projects that CMM, Freather, or Keysponssory touch.
Showing how you designed the keeb is really cool! Nice board.
The design is really coll.
Looks magnificent, love the design. I pray for the 60%. Would definitely appreciate a straight photo of the side profile in order to see it in its full glory. There definitely is a little too much flower and not enough board for the silver and lilac photos. Won't be joining because I'm a 60% boi, but gl with gb!
Stunning. I work in an architectural firm and would love to have this one on my desk at the office. I think it would be nice to alternate out with the 7v. Morphosis and Herzog kind of guy myself though
Beautiful.
Price?
Beautiful.
Price?
We are going into GB this week, you can come check out the price on the GB page. It ranges from 460$-600$
The renders are trying to be too artsy and are making it very difficult to really appreciate the design. Based on what's shown, this looks ugly and busy. I think maybe this could be helped if the design was more clearly displayed, or maybe it's just bad design.
I just read your reply here. You have added a lot of things. I'm so much excited. Thanks for sharing.
I love this, and it will be an instabuy from me. I have a request though. Although the renders are really nice, I would appreciate if you just made some simple renders that more clearly show all the board's details. Please?
Is that a beige and gold weight colorway in the photo with pieces laying out? If so, I would love to have a board with that, like a tan/beige and gold weight.
This is fantastic. Sad I missed out on the 65 (assuming I did?)
Copper…sublime. ‘Nuff said
Piece of art.
More copper please !
Beautiful TKL !! Can we see more "flat" renders of the keeb ?
You got it, Mao
Why no price? seems like this should be known already if there has already been a china only gb.
Very classy good job