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Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 08 October 2010, 13:03:28
The Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator (http://www.mrinterface.com/keyboardsims/blackwidow/razer.html)

What do you think?

Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 08 October 2010, 13:13:13
Quote from: ripster;231459
Hahaha!  Fun.  

Assuming your mike isn't compressing the high end it sounds a lot deeper than the Filco/Das.


Filco Brown is my next in line to Simulate.... Will use the same mike setup :-)

Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: squarebox on Fri, 08 October 2010, 13:20:15
Nice work!!!
Razer sounds like a nail gun...

Again AWESOME JOB!
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: WhiteRice on Fri, 08 October 2010, 14:28:47
Lol, this is a great idea. I can't wait to get home and try this.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: Fwiffo on Fri, 08 October 2010, 14:45:00
Couple ideas:

1) Make the recordings with two microphones in either ear as stereo channels to get a binaural recording and a fully immersive experience (ala the virtual barbershop (http://extra.listverse.com/amazon/audioillusions/virtualhaircut.mp3) - headphones required).
2) Record keypress and key release separately for modifier keys so that chords sound correct.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 08 October 2010, 15:20:08
Another one :

The DAS 3 Professional Simulator (http://www.mrinterface.com/keyboardsims/das3/index.html)
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: CeeSA on Fri, 08 October 2010, 15:32:11
awesome
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 08 October 2010, 16:13:30
I don't get it...
There is supposed to be sound?

Edit: Aah. I have to disable Flashblock for it to work.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: WhiteRice on Fri, 08 October 2010, 17:42:20
I just deafened my self, reminder to turn my speakers down next time, but yea that's fun like a giant machine gun.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Fri, 08 October 2010, 17:45:14
These puny, girly little MX blue clicks are drowned out by the manly CLACK CLACK CLACK of my Model M.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 09 October 2010, 02:48:26
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;231562
These puny, girly little MX blue clicks are drowned out by the manly CLACK CLACK CLACK of my Model M.


Turn up the volume!!!! ;-)

Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 09 October 2010, 02:58:54
Quote from: Fwiffo;231496
Couple ideas:

1) Make the recordings with two microphones in either ear as stereo channels to get a binaural recording and a fully immersive experience (ala the virtual barbershop (http://extra.listverse.com/amazon/audioillusions/virtualhaircut.mp3) - headphones required).
2) Record keypress and key release separately for modifier keys so that chords sound correct.

1. Then I would have to have the key clicks bound to the keys themselves ( Or how strange would it be that when pressing on 'enter' it would be on your left side.... ). This is not un-do-able but very time consuming. Now the keyclick sounds are at random except for the space-bar.

2. This also posed a problem -> upon decompressing the mp3 file there is a few miliseconds pauze and hence the keyboard would not simulate very well.. But it is worth diving into to find the most optimal script that could actually work with separate up and down clicks....

EDIT : I changed the blackwidow simulator such that the up and down stroke are separately sounded... Works great ! Thought it would have more problems....
EDIT2 : somehow I don't like the up-down simulator that much -> if you want to try it go here (http://www.mrinterface.com/keyboardsims/blackwidowupdown/razer.html). It sounds un-natural when typing so I am back to my first choice -> no up-down difference.


Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: eliOcs on Sat, 09 October 2010, 04:13:13
very nice work! I think these simulators may help people which are deciding which switches are best for them.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 09 October 2010, 14:26:28
SIMULATOR TIME! (http://www.mrinterface.com/simulators)
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: Konrad on Sat, 09 October 2010, 15:16:35
Okay, I'm a tard ... these pages just simulate appearance and keyswitch sounds peculiar to each keyboard?  What sort of switches are used on the Das?
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: Konrad on Sat, 09 October 2010, 15:42:12
lol, is there an accepted keyswitch-recording standard for microphone setup and calibration?
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 09 October 2010, 16:13:34
Yeah, some proximity effect and a tad too much room ambience there. That's a tough combination since more directive mics (less ambience) will generally have more proximity effect, too. I'd say best find a recording location with better sound damping and take care of proximity effect by hand (EQ).

Another impression I had was that volume levels seemed to be normalized (and generally too high). At least the Topres didn't seem that much less noisy than boards with blues as I'd have expected.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: elservo on Sat, 09 October 2010, 17:12:47
I think the Filco brown sounds the best of all, at least in the simulator.  The Das came through nicely.  I thought the second Realforce though had a bit too much hiss, but honestly, it's a nifty use of flash and I had fun for a few minutes.  I don't think anything else really matters.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 10 October 2010, 02:54:39
(*Sarcastic Mode On* ) Thanx Rip... (*Sarcastic mode off*) I just ordered a blue yeti....

Now.... How to get my hands on some EQ-ed sound samples of the Ibm Selectric for its simulator? ( *peers quizzically at ripster* )

Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 10 October 2010, 14:25:25
Here's my 'new' setup (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/microphone-sony-ecm-909a). Dual condensor mics with 120 degree field.
I noticed when putting them as close to the keyboards as possible I get less noise ( of course )
With this setup I re-iterated over the ones I had already done ( that was with a webcam mic ) so now they sound A LOT better...

Rip -> what I need for the selectric simulator :
10 mp3 clips with random keys being pressed
1 mp3 clip for the space bar being pressed
1 mp3 clip for the return key being pressed ( and the whole carriage thing goes from left to right )
1 mp3 clip for the 'static' noise it makes without keys being pressed ( was thinking of a sort of looping mp3 in the background.... )
A picture of the selectric I can find on the web, but if you have an authentic one, that would be much better!
EDIT : I might also dismember the sound sample you already have, but this will give not as good results.... : First try (http://www.mrinterface.com/keyboardsims/selectric/index.html)

Regards.
Title: Razer Blackwidow Keyboard Simulator
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 12 October 2010, 13:34:20
Today, the yeti arrived...

I liked the results with the yeti (http://www.mrinterface.com/sites/default/files/Yeti.JPG) so much better , I redid my collection of simulators (http://www.mrinterface.com/simulators). ( Again!! )

Regards.


Regards.