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Title: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:06:46
Revanche < re·vansh> Lit. "Revenge".

(https://i.imgur.com/onf3GcD.jpg)

Prototype Pics (Lots of details, please watch your bandwidth) (https://imgur.com/a/0pGXh7r)
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/XmWnTcSjE28ByqaH7)
Discord Server* (https://discord.io/acidandco)
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/acidandco/)

Aight, I'm not gonna fill this thread with the what the name means.
I will also keep the introduction short. I have been working on this TKL for the last 2 years.

With the feedback that I've gathered from my previous designs, and my experience building & using various kinds of boards, I'll try to provide an endgame-flavored polycarbonate focused keyboard at the lowest possible price.

Why polycarbonate?
Many people prefer to use polycarbonate board for their daily use. polycarbonate is more robust, resilient and of course, pretty to look at if you turn on your PCB's RGB lights. there's so many PCB that offer RGB underglow, but we haven't been able to use it due to our keyboard being all aluminum. feels nostalgic when you first got that B.Face TKL? here's your chance to being able to lit things again.

(https://i.imgur.com/hvIB2Di.jpg)

Specifications
• 5° Degrees Typing angle, 17.xmm Front height , 9 Degree Polycarbonate bottom upgrade available
• Winkeyless/winkey F12 Tenkeyless Layout
• Polycarbonate Chassis (top&Bottom) Frosted color, Thermal Threaded screw on case, Smoked color tentative
• Aluminum Option Available (Top&bottom) - 3 Color (still tentative), Gunmetal Grey, TGR Cyan, Lilac
• Choice of 5051 1.5mm Aluminum Silver Plate, or Copper plate
• 2mm Copper/Stainless/Aluminum Series 7 Acoustic Plate for sound tuning
• Dual mount - Classic top mount or O Ring (trust me this is good)
• 87A PCB compatibility (if your PCB has JST between the Bksp & Insert, it should be compatible. USB C3 Unified daughterboard.
• 1.1kg kit (might varies if you are using copper or aluminum acoustic plate, weighted is with Stainless Acoustic plate)

(https://i.imgur.com/6O4aw8g.jpg)

MOQ 50, Cap at 100.
Price Goals : US$290 / IDR 4,350,000,- / SGD 392,5
for 1 kit, which consisted of;

1 Keyboard chassis set (Top&Bottom)
Series 5 Aluminum switch Plate
Hairline finish Stainless steel Acoustic plate as a default
PCB (solder) & DB
Fixtures & Hardwares
Carrying Case & Cloth

Prototype/FE Typing test by one of the FE buyers who are kind enough to let me post his typing test video to this IC, thanks Fomo.;

To-Do:
more photos soon. sorry for the lack of photos. Updated.
Approach Vendors. I would like to keep this thing to a minimal as I realized that the market situation is not that good. Indonesian shipping is trash. I need to find a lead vendor with easy access to international shipping to save costs.
need to record more typing test
Need to do a typing test with different acoustic material (I want to try wood.)
Need to try a different PCB to test compatibility
lending my board to some content creators.


(https://i.imgur.com/VB8stIu.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:08:26
RGB testing on FE unit

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011879422535663698/1111668772051357736/IMG_8672.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011879422535663698/1111668772571447349/IMG_8673.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:08:51
Question & Answer:

Q: That's still expensive.
A: it should be better now.

Q: Vendors?
A: Acid&co (myself) for Indonesian locals. i'm not sure about the rest of the world. lots of locals at my country has expressed interest in this board atm. we will see, please consider this as TBA..

Q: Why are the machining is so apparent at the polycarbonate?
A I used cheap-ish factory to deal with proto because I want to save costs. the production run will be using a higher grade factory. so the quality of the PC and the machining result should be better.

Q: Aluminum?
A: Yes. it's available. please read the specification above.

Q: ISO?
A: for the purpose of maximising the sound profile, feel and reducing SKUs, I will not offer ISO plates. the PCB will be compatible with ISO but you need to make your own ISO plate. Plate are using Jane V2 / RS Cutout, with modified flex cut and feel. the PCB will NOT have any flex cut due to the acoustic drawback they provides.

Q: will you be able to offer Aluminum 9 degree kit?
A: I wish, but sadly i can't, it's too expensive. 9 degree bottom are only available on PC only due to costs of material and machining time.

Q:What inspired you to make this board?
A: Duck Unikorn X Legends. Basically I want to make better UxL, but I went overboard and here we are. this board is also heavily influenced by RS TKL and the OG Jane V2.

Q: Credit?
A: Listed below;

Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: alas on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:10:06
Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: Oni on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:50:16
Very clean looking and would definitely be interested in the Cyan color. Will this board have any internal or external weights?
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: lazzuuu on Wed, 24 May 2023, 01:08:47
I love the prototype unit so much, vouch for this! GLWGB!
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: stotle.caps on Wed, 24 May 2023, 01:13:18
gl with the GB, really love the proto unit that i tried not too long ago
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Wed, 24 May 2023, 01:16:26
I can vouch for this board & the runner.
One of (if not,) the nicest PC TKL out there.

Here's my pic of Revanche with my set XMI Matcha Sakura:

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050134563055206520/1102915540810473523/IMG_2649.jpg?width=610&height=813)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050134563055206520/1102915541297004564/IMG_2648.jpg?width=610&height=813)
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 24 May 2023, 02:33:28
Quote from: Oni on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:50:16
Very clean looking and would definitely be interested in the Cyan color. Will this board have any internal or external weights?
this. tgr cyan good
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: AshF on Wed, 24 May 2023, 03:09:13
Nice and GLWIC.
Can't consider this myself, no ISO, no go for me.

Sent from my ASUS_I003D using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: FatefulStranger on Wed, 24 May 2023, 04:58:03
Really like the Duck side profile and also cyan good :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: Azernith on Wed, 24 May 2023, 11:03:48
 GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 24 May 2023, 11:16:59
Quote from: AshF on Wed, 24 May 2023, 03:09:13
Nice and GLWIC.
Can't consider this myself, no ISO, no go for me.

Sent from my ASUS_I003D using Tapatalk



thank you for your reply and for your interest. if the ISO users are big enough I might be able to make a plate for you guys, probably..

Quote from: Oni on Wed, 24 May 2023, 00:50:16
Very clean looking and would definitely be interested in the Cyan color. Will this board have any internal or external weights?

thank you for your interest. at the current state, this board has an acoustic plate inside of the board, which consisted of 2mm metal plate (choice of stainless steel, copper or brass) that also serves as a weight. I already know a way to add an external weight, but the 5 degree kit will be too slim for the weight to be added there. maybe I can do this on 9 degree kit, if you don't mind higher angle of course.



Thank you for the warm replies.

IC form are up, Typing test videos added by one of the prototype owner.
thanks HHDL for the additional photos, I will add my own soon enough.

cheers.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: aicyborg on Wed, 24 May 2023, 14:03:11
I'm in if you reconsider and offer an ISO plate option. I wouldn't mind paying a small premium for it if I had to.

I missed out on polycarbonate Kage so this will probably satisfy that for me.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: Captain Shwah on Wed, 24 May 2023, 14:39:44
nice looking board, the high angle option is :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: superjackie on Thu, 25 May 2023, 02:00:52
will join gb if it's heavier and have wkl hotswap pcb.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 25 May 2023, 02:47:35
Fellow light weight board enjoyer! Coming from Safa, this is a nice option for f12 enjoyers and still want to keep the weight nice and light. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses!
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 25 May 2023, 22:50:05
Quote from: Captain Shwah on Wed, 24 May 2023, 14:39:44
nice looking board, the high angle option is :thumb:
thank you very much!

Quote from: aicyborg on Wed, 24 May 2023, 14:03:11
I'm in if you reconsider and offer an ISO plate option. I wouldn't mind paying a small premium for it if I had to.

I missed out on polycarbonate Kage so this will probably satisfy that for me.
I might be able to make a custom ISO plate. tho please bear in mind that I don't have any expertise in maximising ISO's sound profile, so the plate might sounds different than the ANSI one. i'll try to make it priced reasonable.

Quote from: superjackie on Thu, 25 May 2023, 02:00:52
will join gb if it's heavier and have wkl hotswap pcb.
Thank you for your interest. Hotswap pcb will definitely be an option since it's the norm right now.
as for the heavier.. it's in the consideration right now. please fill the IC form because I will decide it based on the popular poll.


Quote from: paulgali on Thu, 25 May 2023, 02:47:35
Fellow light weight board enjoyer! Coming from Safa, this is a nice option for f12 enjoyers and still want to keep the weight nice and light. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses!

thank you very much for your support Paul!


--
as for now,
Professional photos are being made. I managed to drop down a price a little bit after some discussion with my factory.
after the photos are done and the assets are considered enough, I will update this IC again and x-post it on reddit as well.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: aicyborg on Fri, 26 May 2023, 00:06:45
Quote from: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 25 May 2023, 22:50:05
I might be able to make a custom ISO plate. tho please bear in mind that I don't have any expertise in maximising ISO's sound profile, so the plate might sounds different than the ANSI one. i'll try to make it priced reasonable.

Honestly, you can adapt an ANSI plate for ISO enter and a split Left Shift area and keep everything else the same, it'll sound just as good as its ANSI equivalent. I appreciate you doing this despite the fact you'll probably sell very few for those of us who do want it.

Good luck and hope the weight stuff works out. I'm good with either weight - I don't pick up my boards.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: beelzking on Sat, 27 May 2023, 12:52:37
Nice lightweight TKL. Usually, I'm not that into low typing degree angle but overall pretty nice lil project. GLWIC  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless.
Post by: MonkRel on Tue, 13 June 2023, 06:24:27
GLWIC. Tested the thing during my trip to the meetup.

It's promising. Subjectively speaking, of course.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 03 July 2023, 01:56:17
I added some photos. man, it looks like different IC. Edward helped me took some photos this time. Check it out if you have time; https://www.instagram.com/edwardtanujayaa/?hl=en

oh before someone asked, the one that you see here is all REAL pics, there's no renders at all. I decide not to play with renders in hope of showing my seriousness to this project.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: white_rabbit on Mon, 03 July 2023, 12:10:35
Hey this is a cool project. Not the biggest fan of centred USB but that's pretty minor so you still have my interest

I hope you can get an NA vendor on board - Mekibo is good people!
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: aicyborg on Tue, 04 July 2023, 22:37:43
Photos look really good, great progress. I hope you're able to find a good vendor to use for the global GB (please ensure they ship to UK so I can actually buy one).
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: yz on Fri, 07 July 2023, 06:38:48
looking good lewyn. the gap between the caps you used look a tad too large though, is that an issue with the caps used?
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: marcin_nyga on Fri, 07 July 2023, 15:15:12
looks clean
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: fwoggit on Fri, 08 September 2023, 23:22:37
i want
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 09 September 2023, 05:01:03
holy sh*t, someone actually made a great duck inspired board? lowkey sign me up.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: OG_Doubleboobs on Sun, 10 September 2023, 08:18:44
This is fire
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: This_Is_BearDog on Sun, 10 September 2023, 09:32:11
9 degree rush rush

Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: lecorsair on Sun, 10 September 2023, 13:18:49
Quote from: LaserCrafter on Sat, 09 September 2023, 05:01:03
holy sh*t, someone actually made a great duck inspired board? lowkey sign me up.

Is it really Duck inspired if it's not wrist breaking 11°? (j/k hehe I love my duck board).
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: SirYeetWilliams on Tue, 12 September 2023, 20:34:47
I super dig this. Down for GB when the time comes.
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: syryan on Thu, 14 September 2023, 12:03:33
I like this. Very nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: SirYeetWilliams on Fri, 15 September 2023, 21:33:05
YUSS - GIB KEYBOARD - MONEY IS READY

(pls ship to USA thank u)
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: involuntarysoul on Tue, 19 September 2023, 22:51:34
need metal threaded insert, threads in PC wears out in like 2 uses
Title: Re: [IC]Revanche - Lightweight focused-No frills F12 Tenkeyless. - More Photos!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 26 September 2023, 00:00:36
Hey guys.

Thanks for the support. so many things happened since i posted this IC, I will be working with a new designer to improve this even more.
please look forward to it. it might need some time but i'm improving this for the sake of us as well.


Quote from: white_rabbit on Mon, 03 July 2023, 12:10:35
Hey this is a cool project. Not the biggest fan of centred USB but that's pretty minor so you still have my interest

I hope you can get an NA vendor on board - Mekibo is good people!
I knew popkorn pretty well, I owe her a lot for the hospitality that she give me during my visit to LA.
I'll talk to her once this project is ready. if she's interested, that will be it!

Quote from: aicyborg on Tue, 04 July 2023, 22:37:43
Photos look really good, great progress. I hope you're able to find a good vendor to use for the global GB (please ensure they ship to UK so I can actually buy one).

Quote from: This_Is_BearDog on Sun, 10 September 2023, 09:32:11
9 degree rush rush



Quote from: SirYeetWilliams on Fri, 15 September 2023, 21:33:05
YUSS - GIB KEYBOARD - MONEY IS READY

(pls ship to USA thank u)
thanks for the support guys!

Quote from: syryan on Thu, 14 September 2023, 12:03:33
I like this. Very nice  :thumb:
a comment from syryan himself?  :eek:
I can die happily now.

Quote from: involuntarysoul on Tue, 19 September 2023, 22:51:34
need metal threaded insert, threads in PC wears out in like 2 uses

yes, this is a requirement for the PC version.
Quote from: LaserCrafter on Sat, 09 September 2023, 05:01:03
holy sh*t, someone actually made a great duck inspired board? lowkey sign me up.
I can't compare myself to someone that has a legendary status like Duck.. but i'll do my best.

Quote from: yz on Fri, 07 July 2023, 06:38:48
looking good lewyn. the gap between the caps you used look a tad too large though, is that an issue with the caps used?

probably just the angle of the pic. this is using the standard pcb spacing and the keycaps are GMK (albeit they are newer GMKs, so.. that might be the case as well.)