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Title: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Live
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 12:46:17
KAM Outline


GB Page (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120843.0)

By
Beesley

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/f04c83ee-89c4-4ad0-9cfb-01d095c683f7/OGR+Scene.jpg?format=1000w)



Inspiration

Inspired by a traditional 1935 No.10 Remington typewriter, this is where old meets new
(https://images-cdn.bridgemanimages.com/api/1.0/image/600wm.UIG.62608050.7055475/5077447.jpg)


GB Details

GB Date: 12th July!


Kitting

(https://i.imgur.com/p9PCciQ.jpg)  (https://i.imgur.com/lpq7qcm.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/DhQHLSW.jpg)


Colours

(https://i.imgur.com/SwGnf4I.png)


Deskmat
Diner Deskmat designed by HawkersDraws (https://www.instagram.com/hawkersdraws/)

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/77377b6c-f2b4-4679-bd4d-62e2f5693d4a/Deskmat2.jpg?format=1500w) (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/025a0f8d-b7cc-485d-baa9-c7b892492cc3/Typewrite+Mat.jpg?format=1500w)


Renders

OGR - By AKB

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/f04c83ee-89c4-4ad0-9cfb-01d095c683f7/OGR+Scene.jpg?format=1000w)  (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/2b84481b-d6d6-4855-a2e2-ee7b2e158ef6/OGR+Scene2.jpg?format=1000w)  (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/0bd88c8d-cfd4-40d2-b9c1-d7b43ffaf538/OGR+Scene3.jpg?format=1000w)

Bakeneko - By CannonKeys

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/4a93d8fc-d1fd-49b6-bb0c-b7874c94d700/Bakeneko1.jpg?format=1000w) (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/35d6dcb2-2846-449e-8892-9ef4cedd0664/Bakeneko2.jpg?format=1000w) (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/619872e3-1fed-4d25-a9d9-c8063e94e17d/Bakeneko3.jpg?format=1000w)

WerkOne - By WerkTechnica

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/453888f1-724b-4bf4-961c-3363e0e1309c/WerokOne_1.jpg?format=1000w)  (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/6a7855c7-620d-4176-ae8c-8e4acac81b1d/WerokOne_2.jpg?format=1000w)  (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63f27625f3010727a46ff553/f26bf6ce-7843-42bc-83ae-fd849eb33378/WerokOne_Close+Up.jpg?format=1000w)


Vendors

NA & Global: Otakeebs
OCE & SEA: ALLCAPS


Collabs

TBD


Beesley Discord Server
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IC Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSej3djkYkKcXvuq5Rn1KeIbk1rV8MFGVSx1JDorZpjCNWo8Fg/viewform?usp=share_link)


Special thanks to everyone who supported through the design of of this set
SpikedSynapse & ImperfectLink
An even bigger thanks to my amazing Fiancée for putting up with me doing all of this!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 12:46:46
FAQ

Can there be a novelties kit?
There are no plans to create a novelty kit for this set, with the inspiration and trying to replicate that look of a typewriter and to feel simple yet elegant

Any chance of a different profile like SLK or something non uniform?
I have tried to get this to work with SLK for the past few months but unfortunately it was not achievable with there manufacturing process compared to Keyreative after seeing there KAM Command samples.
I chose a uniform profile as it fits the inspiration of a typewriter, it also increases compatibility with a wide range of keyboards without including extra kits

Can you split everything in to more kits?
Keyreative have made steps to put a stop to the days of running 30+ kits, reflected in there new cumulative surcharge on sets exceeding 3 kits
There lead times are dependent on the amount of kits, less kits means quicker delivery

Updates

Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: spikedsynapse on Fri, 26 May 2023, 12:50:03
Oh damn thats hot! Cant wait to get this! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: Surefoot on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:14:52
Really nice. I suppose it's using KAM matte finish ? Shiny finish would maybe not suit the style that much.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:16:42
Quote from: Surefoot on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:14:52
Really nice. I suppose it's using KAM matte finish ? Shiny finish would maybe not suit the style that much.

Yes im planning to use the matte finish
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: El Kinoflop on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:30:40
Your 40s support doesn't look right. 3 key 40s is usually R2 1.75u Backspace, R3 1.5u Enter, R3 1.25u Tab. It looks like you've got a 2nd 1.5u Tab in there instead.
Less of an issue with a uniform profile but you might as well have the correct tab if you're putting in 40s support (thanks for doing it).
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:37:59
Quote from: El Kinoflop on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:30:40
Your 40s support doesn't look right. 3 key 40s is usually R2 1.75u Backspace, R3 1.5u Enter, R3 1.25u Tab. It looks like you've got a 2nd 1.5u Tab in there instead.
Less of an issue with a uniform profile but you might as well have the correct tab if you're putting in 40s support (thanks for doing it).

Thanks for noticing this, it's an error on my part and am fixing this now!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: arr1 on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:57:38
It looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 14:00:12
Quote from: arr1 on Fri, 26 May 2023, 13:57:38
It looks awesome!

Appreciate it! Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: TerraKeycaps on Fri, 26 May 2023, 16:19:02
Yes! Big fan of this already :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: Magnificent Bureaucrat on Fri, 26 May 2023, 17:18:05
KAM Taskmaster.

I like the idea but is it going to possible to get consistent border placement on each keycap, manu's find it hard enough to get regular legends right.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: aicyborg on Fri, 26 May 2023, 19:17:59
I hope this won't come off like I'm telling you what do, but iiiiiis there any chance you'd be willing to reconsider on the stroke/border around each keycap? To me, each keycap has a natural innate border where the sides meet the top and I'm not sure if I love how busy it makes it all look.

Feel free to disregard this as I don't want to discount your artistic vision. I'm just kinda wondering aloud here.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Fri, 26 May 2023, 23:40:49
Quote from: Magnificent Bureaucrat on Fri, 26 May 2023, 17:18:05
KAM Taskmaster.

I like the idea but is it going to possible to get consistent border placement on each keycap, manu's find it hard enough to get regular legends right.

After seeing KAM Command samples, I and Keyreative are very confident with the consistency we will be able to achieve
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Sat, 27 May 2023, 01:19:09
Quote from: aicyborg on Fri, 26 May 2023, 19:17:59
I hope this won't come off like I'm telling you what do, but iiiiiis there any chance you'd be willing to reconsider on the stroke/border around each keycap? To me, each keycap has a natural innate border where the sides meet the top and I'm not sure if I love how busy it makes it all look.

Feel free to disregard this as I don't want to discount your artistic vision. I'm just kinda wondering aloud here.

I appreciate the feedback, but unfortunately not, the stroke and boarder has been my vision for this set from the beginning.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: kajahtaa on Sat, 27 May 2023, 01:54:26
I love it.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: Ciantha on Sat, 27 May 2023, 04:04:12
Please consider a more robust 40s support. 3-key 40s makes sense on GMK or other high price manus where a child kit might be too expensive/ have too high a moq to be viable.
Unless Keyreative has significantly changed their pricing a 40s kit at a reasonable price that'll meet moq (if there is one now?) would probably be doable.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Sat, 27 May 2023, 05:12:30
Quote from: Ciantha on Sat, 27 May 2023, 04:04:12
Please consider a more robust 40s support. 3-key 40s makes sense on GMK or other high price manus where a child kit might be too expensive/ have too high a moq to be viable.
Unless Keyreative has significantly changed their pricing a 40s kit at a reasonable price that'll meet moq (if there is one now?) would probably be doable.

I'll consider it, if there's enough responses asking for it on the IC form
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: Eighty58five on Sun, 28 May 2023, 09:23:48
Any chance of being able to confirm colour codes at this stage?
Are these going to double-shot in keyreatives pbt blend?
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: BeesKeys on Sun, 28 May 2023, 09:39:08
Quote from: Eighty58five on Sun, 28 May 2023, 09:23:48
Any chance of being able to confirm colour codes at this stage?
Are these going to double-shot in keyreatives pbt blend?

Dysesub, mould costs for the outline is incredibly expensive. Ill be ordering samples soon and sorting out colours
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: cthalupa on Mon, 29 May 2023, 12:52:49
Quote from: Ciantha on Sat, 27 May 2023, 04:04:12
Please consider a more robust 40s support. 3-key 40s makes sense on GMK or other high price manus where a child kit might be too expensive/ have too high a moq to be viable.
Unless Keyreative has significantly changed their pricing a 40s kit at a reasonable price that'll meet moq (if there is one now?) would probably be doable.
Keyreative now adds a cumulative surcharge on the whole set for every kit over 3
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Looking for Vendors!
Post by: BeesKeys on Thu, 01 June 2023, 09:23:02
Looking for vendors for this set - if you would like to vendor reach out!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Where Old Meets New
Post by: Kairo.works on Thu, 01 June 2023, 09:37:43
That's a very good looking set.

Quote from: cthalupa on Mon, 29 May 2023, 12:52:49
Keyreative now adds a cumulative surcharge on the whole set for every kit over 3
That means no International Kit then, i suppose?

Or even worse, that means no more international kits for any keyreative sets going forward.
I don't like this even a tiny bit.

Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - Looking for Vendors!
Post by: Ciantha on Fri, 02 June 2023, 14:51:23
If a separate 40s kit is impossible due to trying to keep at 3 kits or below then perhaps a bigger base kit could be considered.
For example NicePBT Noel adds in 1.75u space as well as quite a few extra bars (dual 2u, dual 3u, etc).
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - New Deskmat!
Post by: spikedsynapse on Sat, 03 June 2023, 10:18:48
New deskmat looks really good!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - New Deskmat!
Post by: just.hymn on Sat, 03 June 2023, 10:20:34
Sheeeeesh, looking real nice, GLWIC!!!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - New Deskmat!
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Sun, 04 June 2023, 19:57:26
IMO you can experiment with dark color background for the new deskmat since it compliments your set well/better than the off-white.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: BeesKeys on Tue, 06 June 2023, 03:06:33
GB date announced!

July 12th!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: teenazas on Wed, 07 June 2023, 06:49:35
Really excited about this set. Happy to see that the GB is already announced!
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: Aquarius on Sun, 11 June 2023, 05:30:36
Infinite expectation :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: Miscfu on Sat, 17 June 2023, 00:42:32
Love this! Can't help but think this design would go hard on that new SLK profile too...
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: BeesKeys on Sat, 17 June 2023, 10:35:03
Quote from: Miscfu on Sat, 17 June 2023, 00:42:32
Love this! Can't help but think this design would go hard on that new SLK profile too...

This was the original plan but ti didn't work out
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - New Deskmat!
Post by: LumiP on Wed, 21 June 2023, 08:28:11
Quote from: HungHingDaiLo on Sun, 04 June 2023, 19:57:26
IMO you can experiment with dark color background for the new deskmat since it compliments your set well/better than the off-white.

This 100%. I'm a shoe-in for the deskmat if it's dark.
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: phinix on Wed, 28 June 2023, 12:11:30
What is the turnaround time for KAM caps?
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: BeesKeys on Wed, 28 June 2023, 12:32:56
Quote from: phinix on Wed, 28 June 2023, 12:11:30
What is the turnaround time for KAM caps?

Estimation I currently have from Keyreative is Q4 2023/ Q1 2024 - I already have samples on there way which will arrive tomorrow
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: phinix on Thu, 29 June 2023, 05:40:43
Quote from: Beesley on Wed, 28 June 2023, 12:32:56
Quote from: phinix on Wed, 28 June 2023, 12:11:30
What is the turnaround time for KAM caps?

Estimation I currently have from Keyreative is Q4 2023/ Q1 2024 - I already have samples on there way which will arrive tomorrow

That's not bad at all  :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: BeesKeys on Mon, 03 July 2023, 04:59:39
With the GB right around the corner I'm happy to show a sample photo from Keyreative!

(https://i.imgur.com/QekNphx.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAM Outline - GB Date Announced!
Post by: BeesKeys on Thu, 13 July 2023, 09:52:50
Group buy is live!