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Title: [IC] Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 12:03:22: Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!

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Since getting into prebuilt mechanical keyboards, I have always had a fondness for big boi keyboards - such as full sizes or TKLs.

Coming into the hobby, I have had my fair share of big boards - tons of TKLs - but I always thought: Can I go even bigger?

Introducing the Muramasa - a XT-FRL + numpad longboi.
^{(PS this is also part of an attempt to get my colleague into mech keyboards, since he won't shut up about how he "needs a numpad".)}

DISCORD LINK (https://discord.gg/HxJFHkyjbf)
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/3Gzx4YCebVZB444A8)

Specs
- 9 degree angle
- Adjusted front height of 17.8mm
- Materials: 6063 Aluminum (top&bottom case), Brass (weight)
- Top mount, two piece plate (considering 5052 Aluminum / PP / FR4)
- Three piece brass weight (also considering weight-less option)
- 2505g unbuilt
- Bezels: 8mm(top/down), 5mm(left/right)

PCB Support
- Supports: full/split backspace, full/split right shift, full/split left shift, ISO, ANSI, 10u/7u/6.25u bottom row, F107 layout, and different numpads

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Gallery
- These are renders, see below for prototype photos!

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Mounting method
- Top mount with separate plates for the 60%+XT area and nav cluster+numpad.
- I wanted a softer typing experience & inspired by the glare, I thought this would be an interesting mounting method.
- Plate options are as follows: ANSI full / ANSI half / ISO full / ISO half, in 5052 Aluminum / FR4 / PP

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Layout options
- I'm considering offering the top case in two different layout options - "Vintage" & "New-Age"
- Vintage will be a F107-style layout, with winkey & the nav cluster all cut out (as pictured on the left)
- New-age will be standard WKL (as pictured on the right)

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Prototypes
- Yes, I suck at taking photos.
- Engravings are only on my personal unit, though i will consider other themed engravings for the production version.
- As you can see, keebmat doesn't fit kekw
- Pictured with WOB & GMK Handarbeit
- Waffle towels FTW
- These are test fit units, still missing PCBs...

Issues that are being fixed:
- type-c port is widened just a bit to maximize compatibility
- changed depth of screw points
- added ribs to promote stability in the bottom case (weight section)
- plates are being fixed (minor incorrect measurements)

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What's next?
- This post is used to gauge the interest of the community, but either way I will be getting prototypes made. Expect updates to come in the future.
- I plan to open source this project at some point, after I make the prototype and make sure I iron out the details.
- Going forward, a GB maybe possible, or even an internals(PCB+plate) GB (for people who want to machine their own)
- I've done some preliminary budgeting for this project. If there is a GB, I'm aiming for something like $480 @ 100MOQ / $650 @ 25MOQ.

Thank you!

Update
- Thanks for all the kind words, including keyboard friends who have filled out the IC form.
- When I open source the project, I will also include version with no weights to hopefully help with cost saving.

Here's a (hopefully)cool signature:
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Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 04 June 2023, 12:21:02: good god
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Farhandsome on Sun, 04 June 2023, 12:40:09: Very cool! Have you considered making the board longer?
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sun, 04 June 2023, 13:41:01: I think you could fit 5 more keys
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: warhopper on Sun, 04 June 2023, 14:52:19: Fantastic! I was curious what could become longer than my W1 or Calliope, and now I finally have an answer! Lovely design
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: CoolPenguin1 on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:13:18
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Muramasa on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:14:34: For some reason, I have an intense urge to join this when it goes to GB ^^
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Erinkaze on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:15:46: This board is a perfect excuse to get a bigger desk. I cannot wait to see the protos!
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: hali on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:21:09: cool! why?
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:28:02: This is cool. In the renders I see two different side profiles. Which one are you going with or are you still deciding? Also, would you consider moving the navigation cluster to the left between the macro columns and the alphas for more symmetry and mouse space?
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 04 June 2023, 18:29:05: Quote from: CoolPenguin1 on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:13:18

What a happy ending and fitting for pride month. ;D
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 23:07:46: Quote from: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 04 June 2023, 12:21:02
good god
Yes! This is the emotion I want to capture with this board.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 23:08:06: Quote from: Farhandsome on Sun, 04 June 2023, 12:40:09
Very cool! Have you considered making the board longer?
Yes
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 23:08:39: Quote from: warhopper on Sun, 04 June 2023, 14:52:19
Fantastic! I was curious what could become longer than my W1 or Calliope, and now I finally have an answer! Lovely design
Thank you for your kind words! I loved my W1
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 23:09:54: Quote from: Erinkaze on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:15:46
This board is a perfect excuse to get a bigger desk. I cannot wait to see the protos!
I’m hyped as well!!! Thinking of ways to bring cost down atm, for the benefit of people who might wanna machine themselves as well.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Sun, 04 June 2023, 23:11:44: Quote from: hkhawk on Sun, 04 June 2023, 15:28:02
This is cool. In the renders I see two different side profiles. Which one are you going with or are you still deciding? Also, would you consider moving the navigation cluster to the left between the macro columns and the alphas for more symmetry and mouse space?
Yeah! I think I’m leaning towards the wedge design…

Hmm that might be something interesting to consider! Definitely will want to try that out.

Tho, all my homies hate mouse space :D
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: beelzking on Sat, 10 June 2023, 15:30:59: Now this is what I call long boi, interesting project.
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: trashem on Sat, 10 June 2023, 20:40:57: oh this is incredible, 10/10 for l o n g b o i
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 10 June 2023, 23:47:41: This project is so good, especially open sourcing the project, very cool GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: HubertThemad on Mon, 12 June 2023, 10:26:09: This is freaking awesome
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: boku on Mon, 12 June 2023, 19:40:31: It's been a while since a new board IC has drawn my attention, WELL DONE! :thumb:
PS: Please consider long spacebar support (10u) for this long boi
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Moods on Mon, 12 June 2023, 22:33:58: This looks awesome! WKL would seal the deal for me! GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Thu, 15 June 2023, 23:42:30: Quote from: beelzking on Sat, 10 June 2023, 15:30:59
Now this is what I call long boi, interesting project.
GLWIC

Quote from: trashem on Sat, 10 June 2023, 20:40:57
oh this is incredible, 10/10 for l o n g b o i

Quote from: Rhienfo on Sat, 10 June 2023, 23:47:41
This project is so good, especially open sourcing the project, very cool GLWIC!

Quote from: HubertThemad on Mon, 12 June 2023, 10:26:09
This is freaking awesome

Quote from: boku on Mon, 12 June 2023, 19:40:31
It's been a while since a new board IC has drawn my attention, WELL DONE! :thumb:
PS: Please consider long spacebar support (10u) for this long boi

Quote from: Moods on Mon, 12 June 2023, 22:33:58
This looks awesome! WKL would seal the deal for me! GLWIC :thumb:

Thanks for all the kind words! BTW, WKL is coming……
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Thu, 15 June 2023, 23:43:59: Also, DISCORD link out now!! Please join if you’re interested!
https://discord.gg/HxJFHkyjbf (https://discord.gg/HxJFHkyjbf)
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: phatmasterq on Sat, 17 June 2023, 05:49:08: this brings all the big pp's to the yard. i'm in. wkl a must. you're a wizard.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: CHICKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN on Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:01:31: This board is almost as long as my username
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: erretter on Tue, 25 July 2023, 09:12:23: EDIT: Sorry posted in the wrong thread
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: herfalerf on Wed, 26 July 2023, 13:52:35: such longth. I think I would need a bigger desk, but i love it.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: doctorboy on Thu, 27 July 2023, 03:51:57: There are no compromises here. Looks like an interesting project and concept. Looking forward to seeing the first prototypes.
The lower MOQ makes more sense as well. GLWIC and have fun!
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: Jona_1153 on Thu, 27 July 2023, 15:42:56: Chad Keyboard :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 27 July 2023, 16:52:05: I don't think it's long enough, what else can we add besides the macro and the numpad?
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: niakulah on Thu, 27 July 2023, 21:03:00: Split spacebar and an option to use an encoder instead of a switch on the top left/right would be nice.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: lkkedward on Sun, 30 July 2023, 11:39:56: chonky board is good board. look forward for build streams
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Ultimate Longboi / XT-FRL+Numpad
Post by: masje on Wed, 02 August 2023, 06:03:47: Thanks for all the kind word guys!!
Added proto photos! Excited to share more with y'all ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 10 August 2023, 04:34:47: I'm still debating whether I am buying this or not. On one hand, I never knew how much I much I loved a full keyboard with the FR chopped off. On the other, I am looking for a productivity board with a southpaw numpad. Whatever happens, this is legitimately the most interesting looking FRL board IC I've seen, so godspeed OP.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: Patty on Thu, 10 August 2023, 08:23:47: proto looks great, engravings on the weight are great although it's a personal one, board as a concept is wild but great, looking forward to hearing how it sounds!
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:47:19: looks like Aeon. Even the colors are 1:1
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: masje on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:55:56: Quote from: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:47:19
looks like Aeon. Even the colors are 1:1

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116335.0

This?
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 05:09:46: Quote from: masje on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:55:56
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:47:19
looks like Aeon. Even the colors are 1:1

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116335.0

This?
Yes and no, Aeon was a more limited run that ran a while ago in Quests Discord. This is Aeon:
(https://i.imgur.com/FvP1vaP.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/W5GEvgZ.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: masje on Thu, 17 August 2023, 05:18:32: Quote from: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 05:09:46
Quote from: masje on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:55:56
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:47:19
looks like Aeon. Even the colors are 1:1

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116335.0

This?
Yes and no, Aeon was a more limited run that ran a while ago in Quests Discord. This is Aeon:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FvP1vaP.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/W5GEvgZ.jpg)

LOL that really does seem similar XD
Maybe I need to offer other color options.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: HubertThemad on Thu, 18 January 2024, 09:11:09: As someone who has a prototype and types on it (and will type on it for forever), I desperately want this in everyone's hands that are able to get one. You have huge support for this, and we're cheering you on! I hope a GB happens in the future, but if not, you are awesome for the plan to make it open-sourced
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: tactilesbad on Thu, 18 January 2024, 09:23:59: gb soon pls
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 21 January 2024, 09:36:31: I don't need any other boards, long you say hmmmmm.
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: phinix on Mon, 29 January 2024, 18:08:28: Jeee... Holy sh... yeah, that is niiiiice !!! :)
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: clay on Thu, 16 May 2024, 01:09:34: I am hoping for a 1.6mm PCB and no foams
Title: Re: [IC]Muramasa - The Longestboi - Prototypes made!!
Post by: Keeaboo on Mon, 20 May 2024, 10:36:42: It's giving W1 and JackPickatea vibes. Not gonna be for everyone but I think it's a super nice design!