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Title: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: yz on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:16:21
Arc

Ergo 65XT


(https://i.imgur.com/e2vZcfc.png)

Arc is an ergonomic 65% keyboard with a 2-row macro column, split at a 12-degree angle. It features the familiar gummy O-ring mount and a front-facing walnut/maple accent.


Contents


1. Specifications

Case Angle: 7.25°

Front Height (min-max): 19mm-22.3mm

Net Weight: 2kg (built with alu plate, Gateron X & GMKs)

Case Materials: 6063 Aluminium, Brass (internal-weight), Walnut/Maple (front accents)

Hardware Materials: SUS304 Stainless Steel (case screws & daughterboard screws)

Plate Materials: 6061 Aluminium & Carbon Fibre (1.5mm thickness)

PCB:

Layout Options:
(https://i.imgur.com/I0G5EME.jpg)

Keyboard mount:
(https://i.imgur.com/EuDfT4j.jpg)
Gummy O-ring with mounting posts


2. Progress



3. Sales & Pricing

Projected base kit price: SGD 630 (USD 468)

Kit includes:

50 units min., 100 units max.
FCFS on shostudios.co
GB target date: Late June/Early July 2023
Targeted Completion: Early-Late Q4 2023

Shipping Estimates:
More
Singapore (Qxpress) – SGD 4.1
Malaysia (DHL Express) – SGD 30
South Korea (Qxpress) – SGD 22
CONUS/Canada (DHL Express) – SGD 80
EU/UK (DHL Express/Fedex) – SGD 80++
Rest of SEA (DHL Express) – SGD 33++
Rest of Asia (DHL Express) – SGD 43++
MENA (DHL Express/Aramex) – SGD 135++


4. Renders & Photos

Black & Walnut
(https://i.imgur.com/nTjUoCW.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/4HN0C4h.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/rGv6PuW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IPjoVyT.png)

Silver & Maple
(https://i.imgur.com/Tp1CsRY.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/FYVYCNr.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uRLDLAd.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/X2Yz8DW.png)

Prototype Photos
(https://i.imgur.com/CcvXzmN.jpg)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/38vAXKR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/98fNDV5.jpg)

Bottom Engraving
(https://i.imgur.com/JBa0Ksv.jpg)

Exploded View
(https://i.imgur.com/4GBqn6I.png)


5. FAQ




6. Socials & Build Vlog

To keep up with the latest information for this board, join my discord server (https://discord.gg/gZzQtzRgzw), or follow me on instagram (https://www.instagram.com/shostudios.co/)!
Raw Aluminium IC form (https://forms.gle/DKRGNyKjckqvmipRA)

build vlog done by the very talented lensoflucas (https://www.instagram.com/lensoflucas/)

sound test recorded by myself


If you made it this far, thank you for checking this project out![/list]
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:41:53
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

hopefully the 60 is a meaningful enough discriminator between the 2 boards, been working on this project on the side for almost 2 years now :)
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: bananathock on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:59:42
First!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: irithyll on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:06:22
Looks amazing! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: bow3i on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:07:22
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

??? Not even that similar bruh. I want whatever you're on.

But regardless, love the design, the wood gives me wood. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: FatefulStranger on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:44:51
Been looking forward to this for a hot while now! Love it!

Also would be helpful to have some pics of the internals if possible. GLWIC :D
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:45:13
Quote from: bow3i on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:07:22
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

??? Not even that similar bruh. I want whatever you're on.

But regardless, love the design, the wood gives me wood. GLWIC!
I'm talking about the name. It's generally a best practice to avoid similar names for confusion reasons
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 23:35:14
Quote from: yz on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:41:53
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

hopefully the 60 is a meaningful enough discriminator between the 2 boards, been working on this project on the side for almost 2 years now :)
I usually go for the army-proof mentally myself, but I think it's enough. In any case, the design will carry it
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: Beaniekeys on Mon, 12 June 2023, 03:43:51
Looks so good! The wood accent is just too clean! GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 05:21:12
Quote from: irithyll on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:06:22
Looks amazing! GLWIC

Quote from: bow3i on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:07:22
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

??? Not even that similar bruh. I want whatever you're on.

But regardless, love the design, the wood gives me wood. GLWIC!

Quote from: Beaniekeys on Mon, 12 June 2023, 03:43:51
Looks so good! The wood accent is just too clean! GLWIC!

Quote from: FatefulStranger on Sun, 11 June 2023, 22:44:51
Been looking forward to this for a hot while now! Love it!

Also would be helpful to have some pics of the internals if possible. GLWIC :D

thanks for the support everyone, will drop some internal renders/pics in an update soon :)
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 05:23:45
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 23:35:14
Quote from: yz on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:41:53
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.

hopefully the 60 is a meaningful enough discriminator between the 2 boards, been working on this project on the side for almost 2 years now :)
I usually go for the army-proof mentally myself, but I think it's enough. In any case, the design will carry it

totally understand where you're coming from, thank you for the kind words!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: giuliano.cz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 06:17:14
Looks a bit too much like the Boomerang. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=119105.0)
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: VXQN on Mon, 12 June 2023, 06:27:44
Looks nice! How does the o-ring work on the top edge, what with the bend in the board? Is there a clip/stop or does the assembly require some specific steps?
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 06:42:00
Quote from: giuliano.cz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 06:17:14
Looks a bit too much like the Boomerang. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=119105.0)

shared some context with laminar for this project and he understood that the timing was a coincidence. I have released renders for this particular design on a public discord server sometime in August last year.
I've also released renders of a tented version of this layout in 2021 on said server. hopefully this will lay any questions of plagiarism to rest for the public  :thumb:

Quote from: VXQN on Mon, 12 June 2023, 06:27:44
Looks nice! How does the o-ring work on the top edge, what with the bend in the board? Is there a clip/stop or does the assembly require some specific steps?

the build vlog linked at the bottom of the post illustrates the assembly process, the plate is split and I used 2 o-rings instead of one to wrap around the perimeter of each sides
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: Elendil-7 on Mon, 12 June 2023, 15:15:44
So excited for this one! That silver + maple is something else  :eek:

No chance of bringing the price down? Will this be the first GB for shostudios?
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Mon, 12 June 2023, 19:19:06
Quote from: Elendil-7 on Mon, 12 June 2023, 15:15:44
So excited for this one! That silver + maple is something else  :eek:

No chance of bringing the price down? Will this be the first GB for shostudios?

thanks for your interest!

this will be the first GB for the brand but as mentioned in the FAQ, I've been designing for and overseeing keyboard group buys with Hex Keyboards since its inception and until my departure earlier this year.

with regards to the price, here's some context on why it may be more expensive than the regular offerings in the market:
the block of aluminium that's required for this board has almost the same total linear dimensions as a full-sized board because of its unique shape.
the unique shape also means that there a lot more material to be removed during machining compared to a board with regular dimensions.
the increase in cycle time and material cost, coupled with low MOQ, is why I can't price this any more competitively than it already is.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: flying1911 on Tue, 13 June 2023, 04:49:11
Happy to see this finally in IC!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: warhopper on Tue, 13 June 2023, 13:34:21
Very excited for this, you nailed so much of what I wanted out of an Ergo board! I don't know if it could have been any more perfect even if I had commissioned it. Would never have though of the wood accents either.

For the files that will be released later, you mention the one for the accents, so conceivably we could get a brass accent made if we wanted too?

Other than that, how will you be invoicing for this? Have you setup a webpage you will direct people through or is it just a form fill and an invoice gets sent through Paypal?
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: SpookyGC on Tue, 13 June 2023, 14:11:50
I'm not a ergo enjoyer, and this is still such a clean kit.

I agree with the arc60 already so popular, moving away from the arc branding would likely get more traction and avoid the need for clarifications.

Gorgeous build though.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 13 June 2023, 14:39:32
Quote from: DirtyGingy on Sun, 11 June 2023, 21:21:29
Fun design. But there is already arc60.
I think a more descriptive named would have been "kink", but people would just misunderstand it...  :confused:

How well does the right space bar work for people who have tested it? I notice that I myself press the space bar on a regular keyboard below N and M and maybe slightly to the right, which would be the rightmost 1u of this space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: yz on Tue, 13 June 2023, 19:38:41
Quote from: SpookyGC on Tue, 13 June 2023, 14:11:50
I'm not a ergo enjoyer, and this is still such a clean kit.

I agree with the arc60 already so popular, moving away from the arc branding would likely get more traction and avoid the need for clarifications.

Gorgeous build though.

you've got a point. I would've likely changed the name if I wasn't already as invested in this project when the arc60 was released. thank you for your kind appraisal :)

Quote from: flying1911 on Tue, 13 June 2023, 04:49:11
Happy to see this finally in IC!

thank you my brother :)

Quote from: warhopper on Tue, 13 June 2023, 13:34:21
Very excited for this, you nailed so much of what I wanted out of an Ergo board! I don't know if it could have been any more perfect even if I had commissioned it. Would never have though of the wood accents either.

For the files that will be released later, you mention the one for the accents, so conceivably we could get a brass accent made if we wanted too?

Other than that, how will you be invoicing for this? Have you setup a webpage you will direct people through or is it just a form fill and an invoice gets sent through Paypal?

thank you so much! yes you'd be able to order an accent piece of any material of your choosing as long as it's able to be machined in the given dimensions. as for the sale, I will be running it on a Shopify storefront that I'm setting up as we speak.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros
Post by: the flying penguin on Wed, 14 June 2023, 02:23:13
arc so lit fr fr
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (Updated)
Post by: yz on Thu, 22 June 2023, 02:53:27
updated post with exploded view and front height measurements, cheers for the eggplant simon :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (Updated)
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 24 June 2023, 05:07:16
Watching with interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (Updated)
Post by: yz on Fri, 07 July 2023, 07:05:24
Quote from: hottrout on Sat, 24 June 2023, 05:07:16
Watching with interest.

appreciate it!
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (Updated)
Post by: yz on Fri, 07 July 2023, 07:12:52
GB will be ran on the 10th of July, 1030am GMT+8 on shostudios.co
shipping will be invoiced closer to fulfilment, shipping estimates are as stated in the original post

more details will come on the GB post, just gotta get my post numbers up before I can do that  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: yz on Sun, 09 July 2023, 22:06:02
GB is live! https://shostudios.co/products/arc-an-ergonomic-65-with-macros
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: Mechboards on Mon, 10 July 2023, 03:43:35
This looks great! GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: marcin_nyga on Wed, 12 July 2023, 07:27:30
intresting
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: tactilesbad on Wed, 12 July 2023, 07:56:22
it's beautiful but way too expensive with the added DHL bribe tax costs
Title: Re: [IC] Arc - An Ergonomic 65% with Macros (GB LIVE)
Post by: doctorboy on Mon, 24 July 2023, 11:39:55
Thanks for moving this project into GB, it is an interesting design and I personally love the wood front accent. GLWGB!