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Title: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Latakerni on Mon, 17 July 2023, 12:02:14
Are those genuine alps? They're in a Apple Extended Keyboard II, 1995 Ireland.
I am not sure if it's ivory or white (I just know that they'll need a good clean and lubing). They look white-ish, or at least what I think white should look like after nearly 30 years, but they seem to have tiny slits, smaller than the deskthority pictures
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCM_Cream_Damped vs https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBL/SKBM_series, and alps logo is barely visible, without raised edges
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Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 17 July 2023, 12:38:13
Those are white. Probably most if not all that are as late as 1995 are white.
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 17 July 2023, 12:54:16
Yes, Damped White Alps have no slits.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Alps_SKCM_--_damped_comparison,_1.jpg

I think the brown spots could be mostly rust.
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Latakerni on Mon, 17 July 2023, 13:41:47
Those are white. Probably most if not all that are as late as 1995 are white.

Thank you! Are those worth anything? I don't plan on selling them, just curious as I tried my luck with a promising looking keyboard
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: LavenderB on Tue, 18 July 2023, 05:24:14
Thank you! Are those worth anything? I don't plan on selling them, just curious as I tried my luck with a promising looking keyboard
Since these could still feel good after a proper restoration and possibly some modding, they could be of interest to someone who doesn't want to buy more desirable alps switches at their current high prices.
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Rhienfo on Tue, 18 July 2023, 17:44:01
Thank you! Are those worth anything? I don't plan on selling them, just curious as I tried my luck with a promising looking keyboard

yeah white alps along with black alps are probably the cheapest alps. They are cheaper because most people want to get blue alps after one European saying they are the best (or at least his favourite switch)

I've never used alps but the common consensus is that blue alps are a more refined version of white alps, but white alps are still better than most mx style clickies but dirty alps are really bad to type on.
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 18 July 2023, 18:46:24
I've never used alps but the common consensus is that blue alps are a more refined version of white alps, but white alps are still better than most mx style clickies but dirty alps are really bad to type on.
You're confusing the two types of white Alps. These are called "White Damped Alps". They are tactile but not clicky, and they are sound-damped: both on bottoming out and topping up.
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: Rhienfo on Tue, 18 July 2023, 20:25:28
I've never used alps but the common consensus is that blue alps are a more refined version of white alps, but white alps are still better than most mx style clickies but dirty alps are really bad to type on.
You're confusing the two types of white Alps. These are called "White Damped Alps". They are tactile but not clicky, and they are sound-damped: both on bottoming out and topping up.

Oh yeah didn't see that my bad, I just saw the alps and thought they were traditional whites. Dampened alps are also really cheap as well from looking, and you find a lot of them from my experience especially compared to the original, I think that's because a lot of the computers that these boards came with were more budget oriented and for families so I think they are more common but not 100%. Plus the AEK 1 is more desirable because it has orange/salmon alps which people want)

Probably gotta pay attention more because If I'd read the post completely I would have seen that it was an AEK II and knew it was dampened alps (and also the link as well lol) , because I was looking to getting an AEK I before, but stopped because shipping boards here is extremely costly (it's like half sometimes the full price of the board so I gave up)
Title: Re: Are those switches dampened white alps?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 18 July 2023, 21:54:21

I was looking to getting an AEK I


That is a very good keyboard and deserves a place in a collection, if you want to fill the slot for tactile Alps. Personally I think they are not very appealing lookers, especially since they are almost always badly yellowed, but they are very well made and both switches and key caps are excellent.