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Title: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:17:34

21XX

A modern unsaver keyboard

(https://i.imgur.com/Uqzsctw.jpg)

IC FORM (https://forms.gle/pMFHsxMmsbAXhNjs6) IC FORM (https://forms.gle/pMFHsxMmsbAXhNjs6) IC FORM (https://forms.gle/pMFHsxMmsbAXhNjs6)

I am happy to announce that Cannonkeys has picked up this project as the lead vendor. We are currently working on figuring out potential regional vendors and the final group buy details!

https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx (https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx)

Specifications

Case:
▸ 5.5° typing angle
▸ 25.5° on F-rows
▸ 6063 Top and Bottom case
▸ PCB Top mount on the main alpha cluster
▸ Plate top mount for the f-row cluster utilizing a 5052 aluminum plate
▸ ~3900g unbuilt, ~4300g built (Current build is 4325g)
▸ WKL with cross nav cluster & WK with a 3x5 block nav
▸ 20.2mm front height (Inner bezel edge to bottom, with feet)
▸ 23.5mm EKH (Bottom row switch stem to bottom, with feet)
▸ Blue, Black, & Warm gray ano options

Front height & angle diagram

(https://i.imgur.com/BXd3Owu.png)

PCB
▸ PCB designed by Cipulot
▸ QMK & VIAL compatible
▸ Indicator lights
▸ 5V solenoid mounted on the pcb
▸ Solder only
▸ Faux integrated cable with an Internal USB C port
▸ FFC Ribbon interconnect cable between main & frow pcb
▸ 1.6mm FR4
Layout support

(https://i.imgur.com/X0ht6T9.png)

Design & Mount

As shown in the renders, and implied by the name, the design takes heavy inspiration from Cherry’s 2XXX series boards, especially the chopped converted boards reminiscent of the ever-classic IBM Unsaver keyboards. It features everything you would expect: chunky bezels, rounded corners, a proper Cherry lip, exaggerated seam, stepped design for the angled F-rows, an integrated cable, and plateless mounting.

(https://i.imgur.com/cYzjzfh.png)(https://i.imgur.com/pXZ3k4z.png)
More renders

(https://i.imgur.com/teZwPFY.png)(https://i.imgur.com/JAxcYfD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/3F3zTje.png)(https://i.imgur.com/T2VFiLy.png)

In true 2XXX fashion the F-row plate features an aluminum plate that is top mounted, while the main alpha & navigation cluster features a plateless top-mounted assembly as shown in the render below. Due to the nature of the layout, the F-row cluster requires a separate PCB that is excluded from the render so that the F-row mount is visible.

(https://i.imgur.com/xeEzlhx.png)
(PCB featured in all renders uses an old & outdated outline. I will update the IC when I have the updated PCB design ;D)

The 21XX also features a “faux” integrated cable, utilizing an internal USB-C port it gives a classic look without forcing you to solder a cable directly into the PCB. Furthermore to complete the vintage references the PCB supports a toggleable 5V solenoid.

Fancy renders

(Some of these renders are slightly outdated)

(https://i.imgur.com/hfnZuTp.png)(https://i.imgur.com/muRBFtv.png)(https://i.imgur.com/eCZFPLm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/U2DLlAB.png)(https://i.imgur.com/JplD5Nl.png)(https://i.imgur.com/zbBq5kl.png)(https://i.imgur.com/tVsipRY.png)(https://i.imgur.com/djiaX2y.png)

Prototype pictures

V1(newest prototype)
(https://i.imgur.com/9R6OhUQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/nfcX4ch.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GVp8wZI.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uJN5vx0.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gGIqRRc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/k3mu1v2.jpg)

V0(Previous prototype)

(https://i.imgur.com/do87N7o.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UAIGLm2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/n9ama8p.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/SYAaw2K.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/x47zpw1.jpg)

Who am I?

hej hej I am Pontus, I’ve been in the hobby since ~2019. You might have seen my name attached to some renders or somehow stumbled upon the DCS Dolch GB I helped run earlier this year. I really like keyboards.

Timeline

▸ Design 1 (V0) – finished (2022)
▸ Prototype 1 (V0) – finished, typed on for roughly half a year (Early 2023 - Aug 2023)
▸ Design revision (V1) – finished (July 2023)
▸ Prototype 2 (V1) – received, currently testing (Aug 2023)
▸ Confirm design (Aug 2023)
▸ Review units (??)
▸ Potential revisions (??)
▸ Group buy (??)

Sale info and format

TBA
The purpose of this IC is to gauge interest in the project. I currently do not have any vendor or final details so there’s not much I can share. Hoping to be able to reach a MOQ of ~50 units but if there’s substantial interest it can be raised.
The price will almost certainly be more than 500EUR and hopefully less than 700EUR. I will share a more accurate price estimate once I have an understanding of the interest for the board.
Details such as colors and kit contents will also be added later down the line as this is a relatively early IC.

If you’re a vendor interested in running this board, please reach out to me on discord ;D

Links

Discord (http://discord.gg/PWka9UTTKm)
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/www_pontus/)
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/pMFHsxMmsbAXhNjs6)

Thanks

▸ The regulars who encouraged me to start this project
▸ All the people who have found and supported the project pre this IC through my instagram & discord
▸ Cipulot for being the greatest PCB designer and putting up with all my stupid requests
▸ James for his pretty feet
▸ Ankit for his proofreading
▸ Myself for doing all the renders
▸ You! for reading this ;D

:p :p :p

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:17:53

FAQ
Questions from the IC form, will update as the IC progresses.

August 17 2023

Q: ALPS?
A: No. This is a cherry inspired board that has been designed to be used plateless. Adding alps support to the current PCB would be detrimental to the build experience for the majority of users who will build it with mx. Adding a separate alps PCB would increase cost and the amount of parts to be made. Resources such as PCB outlines (alternatively complete files) & plate files will be available if the GB runs

Q: WK? 3x5 nav? BAE?
A: Maybe. I will make a form to gauge what layouts people are interested in at a later date. Highly unlikely that the PCB will get more layout support but separate tops might be feasible. To my knowledge original Cherry BAE keys use a footprint that isn't compatible with modern ISO footprints so the chances of the PCB getting support for them are slim to none. Worth noting that plenty of modern sets, both in GMK CYL & SP DCS profiles with updated modern BAE keys that work on standard ISO/ANSI PCBs have ran recently all of which should work on the current pcb.

Q: Detachable cable?
A: Most of the people who have commented on this have seem to been worried about accidentally detaching the cable in use. From my experience this is not a problem, especially if you use cables that are on the thicker side. Cable cutout is 5.5mm wide, the silicone cable that I use with the board is friction fit into the cutout, if I want to get it out I have to use excessive force.

Q: Sticker, badge, weight, or something else on the back?
A: Maybe. I would love to add some personalisation on the back, most likely in the form of a sticker or badge. No plans for a weight, personally I don't feel like it would add anything except cost to the board.

Q: Can you do X colour or Y finish?
A: Colours are far from finished, GB options will most likely be quite limited due to the low moq. I hope to be able to offer at least one plain and one more fun colour. As for other finishes it would be something that I would have to prototype, if I find something that I love the feel and quality of I might try to offer it as an alternative to anodizing.

If you sent a question that I forgot to answer here don't be afraid to ask it again in my discord (https://discord.com/invite/PWka9UTTKm)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: ankit on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:18:53

i'll take 2
glwic pongus

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: unusuaL_ on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:19:17

my favourite sousa no frieren board ;D ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: whirlwind on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:19:35

Phenomenal work, best of luck Pontus :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Meepergon on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:19:49

i need this. sincerely have been waiting for a board with this layout for so goddamn long. i'm in for one.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Tulkas on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:20:06

I saw this in my dreams and it was beautiful!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Fraaaan on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:20:09

yes yes yes yes

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: The Pig on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:22:08

Great project Pontus, really looking forward to more updates! :eek:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: puggo69 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:22:30

i am so proud of you pontus

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Thebloodyez on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:22:51

rush rush GLWIC.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:25:01

My affinity for Cherry-style boards makes me feel interested. Hope the price is not prohibitive!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Dyno on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:28:14

I’ve waited a long time for this one!
GLWIC!
Looking forward to see more of this big boy

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:29:57

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: CoolPenguin1 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:30:03

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pyroo on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:32:32

Yes. :D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Sturmtiger on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:40:06

Finally, the dream becomes real.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: warhopper on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:40:19

Yes and yes please Mr. Pontus, for sure in for one

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: ryoh on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:42:09

this board is so good, glwic

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: The0rigina1 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:50:33

cool and good

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Jampot_298 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:55:54

The pontus and the rontus. I wish the side bezels were thinner, but this is a sick project. GL!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: MK47 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:56:16

I like big boards

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: 51p50x on Wed, 16 August 2023, 16:57:30

Looks really good I'm interested, and I like the color on the v1 proto. GLWIC.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:02:02

I was locked inside this keyboard for a week and I could hear the reverberations of the Pontus typings

Then I slowly transformed into the 21xx and the 31xx and Now we are together in the forest

With the cat and pat

From treeleaf

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Moods on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:24:12

i love the 21sexsex

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: jivex5k on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:31:47

i like it

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: plag on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:34:58

finally. unsaver custom. a REAL cherry lip, plateless, james feet, solenoid, cipulot pcb, and faux integrated cable? this is FREAKIN EPIC! glad to finally see the IC posted here. need one on my desk asap. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: paperassgasket on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:36:30

N E Alps support avail?

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: mcmaxmcmc on Wed, 16 August 2023, 17:47:58

the faux integrated cable is kinda whackge (would personally like a more easily detachable cable that won't take unscrewing) but the board seems neat, hope the GB won't be too expensive :)

(obv Alps support would be nice but I won't beat you to death with it)

good luck with IC! looks good so far

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: mcmcmc on Wed, 16 August 2023, 18:45:29

very cool very based :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: ee on Wed, 16 August 2023, 19:09:00

this is hot

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: growler on Wed, 16 August 2023, 19:20:26

I sense great vulnerability. A man-child crying out for love. An innocent orphan in a post-modern world.
I see a parasite. A sexually depraved miscreant who is seeking only to gratify his basest and most immediate urges.
It's struggle is man's struggle. It lifts my spirit.
It is a loathesome, offensive brute. Yet I can't look away
It transcends space and time
It sickens me
I love it
Me too

Tappity tap tap tap

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Tictac46 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 19:57:43

Looks absolutely fantastic! GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: demond_25 on Wed, 16 August 2023, 20:35:15

This is too hot to handle! I can definitely use it as pillow in the future. Looking forward to the progress. It's sad to see that boards are looking the same nowadays. This is a better one. :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: CyCo on Wed, 16 August 2023, 20:44:26

This is super sweet!!

1. Will the generic gray color be available?
2. Why no numpad?
3. The space on the top left and right are so empty. Maybe LED screen, logos or something else?

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 16 August 2023, 21:26:28

Quote from: CyCo on Wed, 16 August 2023, 20:44:26

2. Why no numpad?

Because its unsaver layout

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 16 August 2023, 21:41:06

I love this so much, especially that blue. I've always wanted an unsaver board cause they look so nice and this might be it. GLWIC :)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Applet on Thu, 17 August 2023, 00:59:59

Looking good! GL with IC and GB :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: FatefulStranger on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:05:45

This is awesome and very based! Hope to see solenoid and carrying case included in the kit! GLWIC :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:31:15

make it out of brass

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:32:28

Quote from: FatefulStranger on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:05:45

This is awesome and very based! Hope to see solenoid and carrying case included in the kit! GLWIC :thumb:

the carrying case in question
(https://cratethis.com/wp-content/uploads/jetblue4-1024x768.jpeg)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: jjolddahgoo on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:41:00

Been keeping an eye on this project for a little bit. Consider me interested.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: TjarleN on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:47:09

Thats one hot keyboard :nut:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Alchemist Keyboards on Thu, 17 August 2023, 03:57:10

Been looking forward to this for a long time - count me in :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Rhienfo on Thu, 17 August 2023, 04:18:18

Quote from: Nonnegaard on Thu, 17 August 2023, 02:32:28

the carrying case in question
Show Image
(https://cratethis.com/wp-content/uploads/jetblue4-1024x768.jpeg)

real image of all the 21xxs when they start to ship

(https://i.imgur.com/vbR8o3z.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: -_- on Thu, 17 August 2023, 04:34:41

this is the one

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Something_Magical on Thu, 17 August 2023, 09:47:57

The Pontus and the Rontus dropping an IC. I want this to have a bigger front bezel actually ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Thu, 17 August 2023, 14:20:48

Updated the post with a FAQ consisting of common questions from this thread & the IC form ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 17 August 2023, 20:47:11

I'm so happy to see this! I am definitely getting one. I'm really hoping for 3x5 support! I've been using that layout since 2012 since the original Phantom supported it and it's really great. The estimated price is about what I expected, so that's nice.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: LMarci on Fri, 18 August 2023, 05:55:23

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: jaynoon on Fri, 18 August 2023, 15:03:56

This is totally nuts and I love it

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sat, 19 August 2023, 02:42:19

GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: masje on Tue, 22 August 2023, 01:37:55

love it, here's my money, pls gib 2

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: ToFuMaNiA on Tue, 22 August 2023, 10:59:06

really liking the mounting type, wondering how it sounds and feels

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: X666 on Wed, 23 August 2023, 08:28:47

Looks great! What keycaps on the proto?

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: chigi22 on Wed, 23 August 2023, 08:57:28

Looks like CRP 2551 HAD

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Rhienfo on Wed, 23 August 2023, 09:31:05

Quote from: chigi22 on Wed, 23 August 2023, 08:57:28

Looks like CRP 2551 HAD

Yeah it is, The proto was teased on the blacksimon discord and it says that.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Rhienfo on Mon, 11 September 2023, 22:57:37

Pontus do you have an approximate estimate on when the gb will run (just in general) as I would like to know when to start saving.

Still great project :)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: offbrandbiscuit on Tue, 12 September 2023, 03:00:57

Good luck on this, I'd love to be able to try one of these. Plateless top mount is fun

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Tue, 12 September 2023, 14:00:48

Quote from: Rhienfo on Mon, 11 September 2023, 22:57:37

Pontus do you have an approximate estimate on when the gb will run (just in general) as I would like to know when to start saving.

Still great project :)

I will share more details regarding a potential group buy when I get a vendor on board (hopefully soon). Personally hoping for late Q1 2024 but it depends on the vendor really, I will give an as early heads up as possible ;D

Quote from: offbrandbiscuit on Tue, 12 September 2023, 03:00:57

Good luck on this, I'd love to be able to try one of these. Plateless top mount is fun

Thank you! I really enjoy plateless boards and I am glad that there are others that do as well ;D

Quote from: X666 on Wed, 23 August 2023, 08:28:47

Looks great! What keycaps on the proto?

A bit late but as the others have said all the proto pictures feature CRP 2551had R4 ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: khai on Tue, 12 September 2023, 17:22:25

nut

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Rhienfo on Tue, 12 September 2023, 17:50:06

Quote from: Pontus on Tue, 12 September 2023, 14:00:48

I will share more details regarding a potential group buy when I get a vendor on board (hopefully soon). Personally hoping for late Q1 2024 but it depends on the vendor really, I will give an as early heads up as possible ;D

Thanks, probably best to start saving now, after the navi60 cause I love serial experiments lain too much.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: plag on Sun, 24 September 2023, 15:53:23

erm.. any updates on this? need one on my desk ASAP (as soon as possible) :p

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: HubertThemad on Sat, 14 October 2023, 16:13:55

GLWIC! Would go well with the XMI vintage set :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Sun, 05 November 2023, 17:16:45

Heyo, I hope everyone is doing well. It's time for a small update ;D
Case has been slightly adjusted with some QOL changes to make the building process more enjoyable. The main changes are the placement of the solenoid and the inclusion of a grommet to secure smaller cables. The solenoid is now mounted on top of the PCB instead of on the bottom case floor which means you won't have to fiddle around with any cables between the two halves. PCB is being reworked to work with these changes. IC form is still open for feedback so if you want to yell at anything about the new design please do so there.

No news regarding potential vendors quite yet but I am hoping to be able to get something by the end of this month, stay tuned :cool:

Updated render showcasing the internals

(https://i.imgur.com/CA6Agto.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: derpter on Sun, 21 January 2024, 22:20:17

Nice I love Frieren, will buy this weeb board most likely

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: TjarleN on Mon, 12 February 2024, 07:33:51

I keep rechecking this ic more often than i would like to admit... hopefully you will find a vendor that want to take this on soon :)

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: modulor on Tue, 13 February 2024, 11:31:12

Quote from: TjarleN on Mon, 12 February 2024, 07:33:51

I keep rechecking this ic more often than i would like to admit... hopefully you will find a vendor that want to take this on soon :)

rush rush

Same same, here and in Pontus' Discord haha...this is my most anticipated custom board (ever) <3

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: aa212121 on Tue, 13 February 2024, 17:19:38

oo i like the seams on this

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: pelfox on Mon, 19 February 2024, 12:52:46

interested if a keyboard manufacturer picks this up

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: masje on Sat, 11 January 2025, 09:57:00

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Skfocmwla18(! on Wed, 29 January 2025, 09:15:26

I want this!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: boku on Thu, 30 January 2025, 16:49:53

Please let this come in black so I may finally have a resting place for all my black relegendables I've been saving for years

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Fri, 31 January 2025, 18:42:54

Quote from: boku on Thu, 30 January 2025, 16:49:53

Please let this come in black so I may finally have a resting place for all my black relegendables I've been saving for years

Definitely coming back ;D Things are slowly but surely happening behind the scenes. I am very happy to see that people still are interested in the project, I won't let you down!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 01 February 2025, 00:36:25

Looking forward to it

Be fun w the R0 caps we’re talking about in the next thread

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Skfocmwla18(! on Sat, 01 February 2025, 12:06:38

Quote from: Pontus on Fri, 31 January 2025, 18:42:54

Quote from: boku on Thu, 30 January 2025, 16:49:53
Please let this come in black so I may finally have a resting place for all my black relegendables I've been saving for years
Definitely coming back ;D Things are slowly but surely happening behind the scenes. I am very happy to see that people still are interested in the project, I won't let you down!

If it can be launched in a data general dasher colorway, TAKE MY MONEY. I mean, I’ll take one maybe two regardless, but that would be *chefs kiss* for the dasher keycaps I’ve been saving.

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Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Tue, 25 March 2025, 16:49:20

It's happening, time to panic :eek:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Tue, 25 March 2025, 16:52:30

I am happy to announce that CannonKeys graciously have picked up this project. Check out their coming soon page if you want a reread on all the specs! Also happy to share that the colours have been confirmed to blue, Black, & a warm gray. I hope you all find a colour you connect with! The board will also be offered in both the blockered and teased blockerless version!

https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx (https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx)

Here's a sticker teaser as well ;D

(https://cannonkeys.com/cdn/shop/files/BottomDown.jpg?v=1742938826&width=2560)

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: HubertThemad on Tue, 25 March 2025, 17:02:11

THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME

This has been the most anticipated board for me for years. LET'S GOOOO, maybe I'll get one of each color ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 25 March 2025, 17:05:25

LFG

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: iamtragic on Tue, 25 March 2025, 17:38:22

holy **** we're so back

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: swag on Tue, 25 March 2025, 18:00:59

Can't wait to get in on this -- the blue color is such a classic!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: modulor on Tue, 25 March 2025, 21:03:16

Glad this got picked up and hope you get more vendor support, I'm definitely in b'-'b

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 26 March 2025, 04:02:35

I'll have one in blue please

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: erretter on Wed, 26 March 2025, 06:06:39

10u is a must on this board.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy on Mon, 31 March 2025, 15:01:24

Quote from: Pontus on Tue, 25 March 2025, 16:52:30

I am happy to announce that CannonKeys graciously have picked up this project. Check out their coming soon page if you want a reread on all the specs! Also happy to share that the colours have been confirmed to blue, Black, & a warm gray. I hope you all find a colour you connect with! The board will also be offered in both the blockered and teased blockerless version!

https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx (https://cannonkeys.com/products/21xx)

Here's a sticker teaser as well ;D

Show Image
(https://cannonkeys.com/cdn/shop/files/BottomDown.jpg?v=1742938826&width=2560)

IT LIVES! I’m really excited for this

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: GMK_Andy on Tue, 01 April 2025, 21:09:56

Cool project :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Mikhail on Thu, 03 April 2025, 18:30:27

ISO Enter on your prototype is tilted. You need to place the switch in normal position - most of MX switches have stem tilt in south-north direction.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Wed, 09 April 2025, 16:58:11

Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 03 April 2025, 18:30:27

ISO Enter on your prototype is tilted. You need to place the switch in normal position - most of MX switches have stem tilt in south-north direction.

Good catch! I originally went with this since it seemed like cherry did either rotation for their own boards. For the next revision it has been rotated to accommodate more switches and keycaps. I will share updated images & renders of the pcb soon to show off everything that has been adjusted! ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Mikhail on Wed, 09 April 2025, 18:03:08

Yea, Cherry had both variants, but seems tilt on usual direction will fixed with stab.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: deductivemonkee on Wed, 09 April 2025, 18:15:01

Is it too late to pray for a HHKB top offering? I wouldn't need to consider anything other than colour before ordering if that were the case..

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Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Wed, 23 April 2025, 15:09:03

Hello everyone! Time for a small little update. This weekend Jae from prototypist built the blue 21xx prototype on stream, sorry for not announcing it here but thanks to everyone who still managed to drop by!
The VOD is available on youtube https://youtu.be/dxx7H0_lX9M (https://youtu.be/dxx7H0_lX9M)
This prototype isn't fully representative for the final version since there have been some changes after this unit was made as specified in my previous update. If you just want to see the general experience of the board I highly recommend checking it out though!

The prototype with the finalized design will soon be finished. Hoping to be able to get it shipped around for some streams and photo sessions. Hopefully I will be able to give a bit more of a heads up for those streams, stay tuned! :D

Quote from: deductivemonkee on Wed, 09 April 2025, 18:15:01

Is it too late to pray for a HHKB top offering? I wouldn't need to consider anything other than colour before ordering if that were the case..

Sent from my SM-S911W using Tapatalk

There hasn't been any interest shown in HHKB tops before and there are no plans to offer it in the group buy. Sorry for not being to accommodate it this time!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Metakeebs on Tue, 06 May 2025, 02:22:49

Would you consider adding the EC Internal option in the future? They seem to be really suitable for EC

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Tue, 06 May 2025, 03:29:30

Quote from: Metakeebs on Tue, 06 May 2025, 02:22:49

Would you consider adding the EC Internal option in the future? They seem to be really suitable for EC

I have considered EC but decided against it. With the board being themed around cherry keyboards and with it being designed to be used plateless I felt that EC (& alps for those who’ve been asking for that) would force it too far away from my original vision.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: FoxandFoundry on Tue, 06 May 2025, 17:08:45

Looks amazing. Any chance on doing adding hotswap support?

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Thu, 08 May 2025, 16:02:47

I am happy to be able to show some picture of the latest prototype featuring the final colour for the warm gray ano! Let me know what you guys think :cool:

Warm Gray Pictures

(https://i.imgur.com/Q1PsdIT.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PC5Y07s.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ka5kMpw.jpeg)

Quote from: FoxandFoundry on Tue, 06 May 2025, 17:08:45

Looks amazing. Any chance on doing adding hotswap support?

No hotswap for this board. Same reasoning as the previous answer for EC & Topre, the plateless nature wouldn't play well with hotswap.

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Thu, 08 May 2025, 17:31:05

beautiful pics!

Title: Re: [IC] 21XX - A modern unsaver keyboard
Post by: Pontus on Tue, 13 May 2025, 18:31:45

GB POST IS LIVE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=125163.0)
thanks for the continued support!