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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: noisyturtle on Mon, 20 November 2023, 01:48:59
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Suppose you are working 48-60hrs a week, 6 days a week, and work until midnight. How the hell are you supposed to find time to go to the gym?
I genuinely do not understand how people find the time or energy. Explain this to me.
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Suppose you are working 48-60hrs a week, 6 days a week, and work until midnight. How the hell are you supposed to find time to go to the gym?
I genuinely do not understand how people find the time or energy. Explain this to me.
1) Gym rats don't really live for anything else.
2) Who the hell works that much? Oo I mean I did more than that during my PhD obviously but that was a temporary situation. (Come to think of it, I still went swimming five times a week even then)
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2) Who the hell works that much? Oo I mean I did more than that during my PhD obviously but that was a temporary situation. (Come to think of it, I still went swimming five times a week even then)
Quite a lot actually.
Resident doctors, new lawyers, truckers, I.T., health care workers, sometimes teachers, and of course, independent business owners, especially new ones. Starting my last company, 80 hours would have been a dream.
Also military,
There's times where 72 hours was the norm and you were encouraged to "get at least 6 hours of sleep twice a week".
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From a European perspective, those work hours are totally bonkers. I can understand if you are running your own business or you're a workaholic that takes on responsibility voluntarily, but it should never be dumped on regular workers: that's just abuse.
When I've had office jobs (job at all), I've had co-workers that went to the gym right before work, right after work or during the lunch break. Cliques formed at work that often went together.
The keys here were that hours were reasonable (40h work week), with some flexibility (allowing long lunch break) and that the gyms were located within short walking distance from the office.
A few times the employer encouraged people to to exercise by sponsoring them (tax-free benefit) and/or brokering a deal with a local gym for reduced membership fees. It was viewed as an investment: healthier workers are more productive workers.
But yeah. I've even had a gym membership that I never used because at the end of the day I just wanted to get some food and some alone-time.
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They don't
They join January, and stop going 2 weeks later.
The only people who maintain live within walkable distance like 2-5 minutes.
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From a European perspective, those work hours are totally bonkers. I can understand if you are running your own business or you're a workaholic that takes on responsibility voluntarily, but it should never be dumped on regular workers: that's just abuse.
A lot of those jobs are a lot waiting around or figuring things out, after hours light work or just piddly stuff you either couldn't do during normal hours or just has to get done at some point, it's not like most of those jobs are the same as spending 80 hours digging ditches, but still.
Resident docs though, they do work their a$$es off, luckily it's not long term but many end up abusing drugs to get through it. It's rampant, especially the anesthesiologists because they know how much and how often they can do it safely (at first). It's all kind of a poorly kept secret in drug testing circles and hospitals.
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From a European perspective, those work hours are totally bonkers. I can understand if you are running your own business or you're a workaholic that takes on responsibility voluntarily, but it should never be dumped on regular workers: that's just abuse.
When I've had office jobs (job at all), I've had co-workers that went to the gym right before work, right after work or during the lunch break. Cliques formed at work that often went together.
The keys here were that hours were reasonable (40h work week), with some flexibility (allowing long lunch break) and that the gyms were located within short walking distance from the office.
A few times the employer encouraged people to to exercise by sponsoring them (tax-free benefit) and/or brokering a deal with a local gym for reduced membership fees. It was viewed as an investment: healthier workers are more productive workers.
But yeah. I've even had a gym membership that I never used because at the end of the day I just wanted to get some food and some alone-time.
Just 2 jobs I work 6.5 days a week. One is a remote CRM thing, and the other is just a grocery store gig. I average about 60hrs a week working, and only barely make enough to cover my bills every month with zero savings. Welcome to America.
I want to move out of the area I'm in because it is so expensive, but I literally cannot afford to take any time off and have no savings to make the move. It's basically a trap.
But I'd really love to find any time for the gym. Even just like 2-3hrs a week would be great.
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I want to move out of the area I'm in because it is so expensive, but I literally cannot afford to take any time off and have no savings to make the move. It's basically a trap.
But I'd really love to find any time for the gym. Even just like 2-3hrs a week would be great.
This resonates with Tp4's experience with human cities. Much like the Night-City of Cyberpunk Edgerunners, The Cities are a Prison to all but its staff and warden.
EVEN then, the people at the top are themselves slaves to the same system.
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From a European perspective, those work hours are totally bonkers. I can understand if you are running your own business or you're a workaholic that takes on responsibility voluntarily, but it should never be dumped on regular workers: that's just abuse.
When I've had office jobs (job at all), I've had co-workers that went to the gym right before work, right after work or during the lunch break. Cliques formed at work that often went together.
The keys here were that hours were reasonable (40h work week), with some flexibility (allowing long lunch break) and that the gyms were located within short walking distance from the office.
A few times the employer encouraged people to to exercise by sponsoring them (tax-free benefit) and/or brokering a deal with a local gym for reduced membership fees. It was viewed as an investment: healthier workers are more productive workers.
But yeah. I've even had a gym membership that I never used because at the end of the day I just wanted to get some food and some alone-time.
even as an american this seems a little nutty
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From a European perspective, those work hours are totally bonkers. I can understand if you are running your own business or you're a workaholic that takes on responsibility voluntarily, but it should never be dumped on regular workers: that's just abuse.
When I've had office jobs (job at all), I've had co-workers that went to the gym right before work, right after work or during the lunch break. Cliques formed at work that often went together.
The keys here were that hours were reasonable (40h work week), with some flexibility (allowing long lunch break) and that the gyms were located within short walking distance from the office.
A few times the employer encouraged people to to exercise by sponsoring them (tax-free benefit) and/or brokering a deal with a local gym for reduced membership fees. It was viewed as an investment: healthier workers are more productive workers.
But yeah. I've even had a gym membership that I never used because at the end of the day I just wanted to get some food and some alone-time.
Just 2 jobs I work 6.5 days a week. One is a remote CRM thing, and the other is just a grocery store gig. I average about 60hrs a week working, and only barely make enough to cover my bills every month with zero savings. Welcome to America.
I want to move out of the area I'm in because it is so expensive, but I literally cannot afford to take any time off and have no savings to make the move. It's basically a trap.
But I'd really love to find any time for the gym. Even just like 2-3hrs a week would be great.
are there any opportunities at your jobs you can take advantage of for exercise? like walking the aisles at the grocery store for a few minutes or something like that? better than nothing
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I go late at night
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I am not American so I work reasonable hours. Gym is in the afternoon, at work, three times a week.
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I'm sorry - did you just say the gym is at work?]
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I did
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My ex-wife worked in a building with a small gym in the basement. It used to be more common, but it may be coming back.
Larger companies (in large buildings) are much more likely to have the faciliites.
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Used to go to the uni gym as well, or the uni swimming pool, while I was doing my PhD.
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Why do people even want jobs, jobs = sucks.
>:D
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Why do people even want jobs, jobs = sucks.
>:D
I don't think anyone WANTS a job, but you NEED a job.
People who have never worked for anything, and don't have jobs but still have money, are losers.
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People who have never worked for anything, and don't have jobs but still have money, are losers.
Or the 0.01%.
Like it or not they're rarely losers.
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People who have never worked for anything, and don't have jobs but still have money, are losers.
Or the 0.01%.
Like it or not they're rarely losers.
It is a matter of perspective. If all being a winner means to you is having money, than sure.
But to me, someone with no skills, no education, no work history, and had everything handed over to them, are absolutely losers. Stupid, ignorant of the World, blissfully ignorant of empathy, can't even do their own laundry or prepare a meal. That's a total loser in my book.
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sure but id take being one of them over my current life any day lol. im grateful and all but cmon man
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People who have never worked for anything, and don't have jobs but still have money, are losers.
Or the 0.01%.
Like it or not they're rarely losers.
It is a matter of perspective. If all being a winner means to you is having money, than sure.
But to me, someone with no skills, no education, no work history, and had everything handed over to them, are absolutely losers. Stupid, ignorant of the World, blissfully ignorant of empathy, can't even do their own laundry or prepare a meal. That's a total loser in my book.
NT, you are inventing some movie-style villain as the pivot for your personal persecution-complex.
There are very few such people, and if they are as ineffective as your imagination prescribes, then they are of no importance and have 0 impact on your life. The insulation of their "wealth" would also resolve such that the probability of meeting them is 0.
The other possibility from the Gekha-Audience's perspective is that your persistent philippic is a trope of self-deprecating humor to ameliorate some debilitating mental illness, or to invert the roles of reality as to curse your own inutility despite all the opportunities handed to you.
In any case, socio-economic inequality is an inefficiency within our organizational machinery. It's not an innate evil, which might not exist in any form outside of an illness. It happens because most human beings, born lucky or not, are myopic morons.
We will eat the rich eventually, it's happened repeatedly in history.
Even if we don't, The digital AI-Divinity is almost upon us, fret not flesh bags, Evolution is near. It is far better to live as a drone than a mediocre hughmahn.
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socio-economic inequality is an inefficiency within our organizational machinery. It's not an innate evil
I would argue that it is an evil, actually 2 evils.
The first was set up when our country was created with its foundational wrongs to accommodate slavery, and the second occurs continuously when people exploit the gaps for their own enrichment at the expense of others.
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The sad answer is you either have to play the game as the rules are written or play a different game. If you choose to chase money and the American dream there is rules that our culture has put in place on what defines success (The house, the car, the vacations, the watches, etc) and getting there is a matter of luck and connections more than hard work.
Or you play a different game and understand money is a means to needs and if your job allows you to do the things you want to do (within bounds) and you willingly forgo the paper chase and lower your expectations of what a good life looks like, your perspective can change. Social media really warped perceptions of what wealthy/comfortable looks like.
As a car person my FYP on social media is a lot of cars. I love older cars that are somewhat attainable (sub 30k). Your older Euro, JDM, etc. But what I get served is 1m+ hypercars and all these posts talking about "Making it" once you have your Lambo. We are telling people unless you drive a $250k+ car or live in a mansion in LA you need to grind more. This is such a warped view on reality. There are 300+ million people in the US, 299 million of us will probably never sit in a lambo, much less own it. I drive a 2008 legacy GT Specb that I bought for less than 20k and I smile every time I drive it. Rain, sun, or snow it's a blast. By changing my perception of what your dream is, you can change how you feel about your life.
We gotta stop pretending that if you don't have a million in the bank, you are just lazy. The US economy is run by rich people who only want to get richer off the labor of the lower classes. Until the Govt is run by everyday people who enact change that benefits the rest of the 99% and not financially connected mouthpieces for the wealthy, we will have this situation. The best thing regular folks can do is change our expectations on what we need to do to be happy.
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If you choose to chase money and the American dream there is rules that our culture has put in place on what defines success (The house, the car, the vacations, the watches, etc)
wow i'm successful
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If you choose to chase money and the American dream there is rules that our culture has put in place on what defines success (The house, the car, the vacations, the watches, etc)
wow i'm successful
Not fair, you're British. Also, even if those are all rented/leased/mortgaged it doesn't matter because you have it and others don't. Don't look man (loans/debts) behind the large curtain.
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socio-economic inequality is an inefficiency within our organizational machinery. It's not an innate evil
I would argue that it is an evil, actually 2 evils.
The first was set up when our country was created with its foundational wrongs to accommodate slavery, and the second occurs continuously when people exploit the gaps for their own enrichment at the expense of others.
This happens because most hughmahns are morons, exploitation and excess is the equivalent of NOT-seeing the bigger picture, it does not indicate an innate desire to do harm/evil.
Human beings are born on a normal distribution for intelligence, it's an unfortunate mathematical certainty that most are idiots. The problem is further compounded by the fact that our existing evolution is not equipped to empathize with more than a village of 200, when the cancer that is man has ballooned to billions in the blink of geological time. Famine and irradiated surface life is the most probable outcome, but Tp4 is still relatively optimistic. :cool:
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If you choose to chase money and the American dream there is rules that our culture has put in place on what defines success (The house, the car, the vacations, the watches, etc)
wow i'm successful
Not fair, you're British. Also, even if those are all rented/leased/mortgaged it doesn't matter because you have it and others don't. Don't look man (loans/debts) behind the large curtain.
Pros: British
Cons: British
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If you choose to chase money and the American dream there is rules that our culture has put in place on what defines success (The house, the car, the vacations, the watches, etc)
wow i'm successful
Not fair, you're British
Well **** :C
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Pros: British
There are pros in that?
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idk u get free healthcare and ur late queen had some sick ass cars
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Pros: British
There are pros in that?
You got a lot of fun cars that America didn't. Specially the Gen4 Subaru Legacy spec.B (Liberty) with the EZ30 + 6 Speed from the STi. Only Japan and UK markets got those.
Also your govt has basic consumer protections that the US thinks capitalism will just fix itself (it doesn't).
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idk u get free healthcare
Most of the world does though.
You got a lot of fun cars that America didn't. Specially the Gen4 Subaru Legacy spec.B (Liberty) with the EZ30 + 6 Speed from the STi.
The hydraulic power steering has more weight for the Spec B and feels accurate and responsive, but feel is poor
:(
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The hydraulic power steering has more weight for the Spec B and feels accurate and responsive, but feel is poor
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I wonder how much of that is due to pricepoint. The SpecB was in BMW 3 series price ranges so they often get compared. But also said to hear those smearing the name of the Spec B.
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You will never "find the time" to workout or pursue anything out of your regularly scheduled day.
The only way to make change is to literally schedule it into a calendar like you are setting up a medical appointment. This way you have a better chance of actually going to it.
Scheduling after work will probably lower the chances considering everyone just wants to go home. I find scheduling it at the beginning of the day or during lunch the best.
2-3 hours a week of dedicated fitness time should be enough for the average person. Thats 2-3 "skipped" lunches where you eat at your desk or in the car. Or 2-3 early mornings when you wake up before the sun.
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Thats 2-3 "skipped" lunches where you eat at your desk or in the car.
Why would you torture yourself like this.
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Thats 2-3 "skipped" lunches where you eat at your desk or in the car.
Why would you torture yourself like this.
gains
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
I'm surrounded by teen-20 something year old kids who eat 3500-4k calories a day talking about how they are losing weight.
Meanwhile I have a cup of coffee and a stick of jerky all day, and gain 5lbs.
Life is a ****ing scam.
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Your scales are ****.
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Your scales are ****.
Nah bro, my scales are built using Mandolin Crystals.
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
i dont eat lunch at all and sometimes dont eat breakfast and am still ( . )
help
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
Same but I also workout like 10 hours plus weekly
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
Same but I also workout like 10 hours plus weekly
That's ****ing berserk wtf. That's like Marvel Movie training, do you compete or anything like that?
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
Same but I also workout like 10 hours plus weekly
That's ****ing berserk wtf. That's like Marvel Movie training, do you compete or anything like that?
Can't let the demons win.
But in all honesty, it's a routine at this point. It's fun
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I set up my own gym at home.
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I set up a garage gym a few years ago because I was tired of crappy equipment and people's taking the rack I was using when I went to the bathroom or got a drink.
When I went to a commercial gym, I usually went around 9 PM on weekdays and sometime in the early afternoon on weekends. In my garage gym, I usually have the same schedule. I've tried working out in the mornings, but I just can't wake up early consistently, and I prefer working out at the end of the day so that I don't run into a hard stop before the workout is over.
I've tried the lunch break thing, but then I don't get to eat lunch or do chores or errands.
BUUUUUT, if you don't like working out or aren't in the mindset, you're not going to do it whether you have the time or not. I've been struggling with that a lot lately. I am just tired all the time, so I don't feel like going out to the garage and putting in the work. Once I actually get out there and start, I'm usually fine.
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I have figured out a routine that works for me: Exercising vigorously in my bedroom after work at around midnight for 30mins before I jump in the shower. 30 mins, 6x a week.
I have crunched the time numbers, and have so many times over the last 2 weeks made good intentions to go to the gym instead of working out at home. But it simply is too much hassle. If I were to go to the gym it would turn my convenient 30 minute workout into a drawn out 80min+ pain in the ass to get ready and get to/from the gym.
It just doesn't ****ing work. There is simply no time for me to go. If I had equipment at home it would be 100% doable.
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I have figured out a routine that works for me: Exercising vigorously in my bedroom after work at around midnight for 30mins before I jump in the shower. 30 mins, 6x a week.
I have crunched the time numbers, and have so many times over the last 2 weeks made good intentions to go to the gym instead of working out at home. But it simply is too much hassle. If I were to go to the gym it would turn my convenient 30 minute workout into a drawn out 80min+ pain in the ass to get ready and get to/from the gym.
It just doesn't ****ing work. There is simply no time for me to go. If I had equipment at home it would be 100% doable.
Home gym equipment can be found for relatively solid pricing on Facebook marketplace or OfferUp
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I'd get used kettlebells, they are very versatile for home gymming.
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I have figured out a routine that works for me: Exercising vigorously in my bedroom after work at around midnight for 30mins before I jump in the shower. 30 mins, 6x a week.
I have crunched the time numbers, and have so many times over the last 2 weeks made good intentions to go to the gym instead of working out at home. But it simply is too much hassle. If I were to go to the gym it would turn my convenient 30 minute workout into a drawn out 80min+ pain in the ass to get ready and get to/from the gym.
It just doesn't ****ing work. There is simply no time for me to go. If I had equipment at home it would be 100% doable.
Home gym equipment can be found for relatively solid pricing on Facebook marketplace or OfferUp
I was going to suggest Titan Fitness because it used to be insanely cheap (if one didn't care about some minor hand-fitting or RMAing certain pieces), but I just checked the website, and everything is approaching Rogue prices. I got my power rack shipped to my house for $306.10 in 2018.
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I have both gains and normal lunches.
I'm surrounded by teen-20 something year old kids who eat 3500-4k calories a day talking about how they are losing weight.
Meanwhile I have a cup of coffee and a stick of jerky all day, and gain 5lbs.
Life is a ****ing scam.
the last month or so my appetite has been really reduced for some reason and I've lost 7 lbs so far. dunno how or why but hopefully im finally getting that teenage boy metabolism i was always promised
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I hope it isn't drugs :p
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I hope it isn't drugs :p
Oh yaeh forgot to mention ive gotten into meth lately
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walking my dog has become my favorite alternative to the gym. it's a peaceful way to stay active while enjoying the outdoors plus, the companionship. it's a simple yet effective way to incorporate exercise into my routine without the pressure of a formal workout and I just lift in my garage (work night shifts)
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I am in week 3 or 4 of early morning workouts. It is the only way I can fit it into my life comfortably. I wake up at 5 and spend about 50-60 minutes on the treadmill. My day is easier to ease into and my pants fit a bit better. The only downside is my bedtime is now 9:30-10PM instead of 11.
I am the type of person who once they are home after work will only leave if forced (kid's activity, etc). I just can't bring myself to work out after the work day.
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Tp4 has wrestled with this question for years.
Should hughmans wurkout eryday?
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I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.
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I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.
Our expectations for NT are now Medium-High.
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I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.
That's a great start!
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It sucks when you spend more time getting ready and traveling to the gym than actually working out, but honestly, getting there is half the battle for many people
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It sucks when you spend more time getting ready and traveling to the gym than actually working out, but honestly, getting there is half the battle for many people
Yeah that's definitely not ideal but getting there is a big hurdle for sure
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I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.
That's pretty good actually.
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I finally found a routine that works for me, and it is all about doing the minimum. I set a low bar of a minimum of going to the gym 3x a week. I may go more often, but every 3rd day is my base goal.
Then I only workout until I am bored and cannot stand being there any longer, for which my minimum is 30 minutes. Sometimes I do 40 mins, sometimes an hour, but never less than 30 minutes.
This has been working for me the last 3 weeks, and I set a 6 week goal, so halfway done with the evaluation/testing period. I think this is finally a way to work a workout into my life, by meeting my minimum requirements and sometimes exceeding them.
Just wrapped up my 5th week on the Once In 3 Noisyturtle Patented System. Technically, I'm pretty sure this was actually the 6th week and I forgot to count the first one. Probably gonna extend this to 8 weeks, then we'll see.
Although I haven't really lost any weight, my workout time has extended from 25-35 minutes until I'm tired, to around an hour. So there has been marked improvement.
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Veggies is the key to super human endurance.
Meat makes humans weak, + the cancer and climate devastation..
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Update at the closing of Week 6: My endurance is basically doubled. Where I used to get tired around 20-30 mins in, now I can go for a full hour and still be able to do more.
Definite gains in the arms and chest, arms especially look noticeably larger and more toned. Upped the amount I was benching and curling by half, so now doing reps of 30lbs curling and 90lbs bench press. I go for reps until fatigue, not maxing out weight.
Added treadmill, which I used to hate.
Thing is; I have not lost ANY weight at all. Still eating healthy, if anything, even less calories daily. But my weight has not budged an inch in about a month. Frustrating.
Gonna keep pushing to 2 months/8 weeks, then see how I feel about continuing as a lifestyle change.
All in all, this was a successful experiment. To see if someone who never stuck to any workout routine their entire life and actively hates the gym and exercise, could do their mental minimum and still get results.
If I can do it, you can do it too.
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That's awesome!
BTW. Muscles weigh more than the same volume of fat. ;)
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Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.
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Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.
Shouldn't have bought em
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Costco Biscott cookies are a serious setback to Tp4's unfat 2024 goals.
Shouldn't have bought em
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We're all excited NT is getn' exercise in.
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Update at the closing of Week 6: My endurance is basically doubled. Where I used to get tired around 20-30 mins in, now I can go for a full hour and still be able to do more.
Definite gains in the arms and chest, arms especially look noticeably larger and more toned. Upped the amount I was benching and curling by half, so now doing reps of 30lbs curling and 90lbs bench press. I go for reps until fatigue, not maxing out weight.
Added treadmill, which I used to hate.
Thing is; I have not lost ANY weight at all. Still eating healthy, if anything, even less calories daily. But my weight has not budged an inch in about a month. Frustrating.
Gonna keep pushing to 2 months/8 weeks, then see how I feel about continuing as a lifestyle change.
All in all, this was a successful experiment. To see if someone who never stuck to any workout routine their entire life and actively hates the gym and exercise, could do their mental minimum and still get results.
If I can do it, you can do it too.
Do you realise your muscles are gradually replacing your lard? Raw weight is not a good indicator for your improvements -- better look at your waist size.
Also can you hire a personal trainer? Because reps until fatigue are not necessarily optimal for you as a noob.
And make sure you eat lots of protein.
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I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein.
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.
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I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein.
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.
Lots of good free fitness programs online to follow. More protein is definitely good overall to help with satiety and muscle building. the_plant_slant is worth following on social media for food help
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I have been eating a lot less animal protein, and probably need to up that for even better results. In fact, my nutritionist mentioned that, and recommended eating an egg every morning if I'm eating less animal protein.
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Always wanted to try a personal trainer for a month, but I'm not sure I'm motivated enough to try that yet.
There is absolutely no reason to consume ANY animal protein.
Proteins are just chains of amino acids. They can not be absorbed by your body, until broken into its amino constituants.
50 amino acid chain and above is a protein, less is a peptide. But they are identical in utility.
ALL AMINO ACIDS that exist ON EARTH, are produced by PLANTS.
ANIMALS do not produce ANY Amino Acids.
Consuming animals greatly increases the rate of CANCER growth and cancer cell motility, so more cancer, and faster cancer cell movement.
Contrary to KETO -Bro science, Plants have a complete amino acid profile. That is to say they are PROTEIN COMPLETE.
Your doctor doesn't know anything about anything. Their training is primarily to make money off you and treat the symptoms of your diseases indefinitely. THERE IS NO CURE for diabetes, a BLATANT LIE. They can cure Type 2 within 3 weeks to 2 months. Search, Nathan Pritikin + Walter Kempner.
A whole food plant based diet Greatly improves all facets of exercise and fitness performance. Please review the documentary, The Game Changers (2018) w/ Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Gummy Bears also have a complete amino acid profile...
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Gummy Bears also have a complete amino acid profile...
In principle yes, but if you like that, why not eat humans. Perfect match.
Nutritionally we also know that high protein intake increases cancer cell growth rate. Animal protein is even worse, because of contaminants, bio-accumulated pesticides, antibiotics, growth hormones.
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I have been eating a lot less animal protein
Why?
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Mediterranean diets, regardless of the country, contain lots of animal protein. And doesn't Japanese food consist of lots of fish?
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I have been eating a lot less animal protein
Why?
Current diet is mostly Mediterranean and Asian(Japanese and stir-frys), so there's a lot of beans involved that contain protein.
Mediterranean diets, regardless of the country, contain lots of animal protein. And doesn't Japanese food consist of lots of fish?
Before WW2, and the influx of american culture, Very few japanese old men went Bald.
After Hamburgers and fried chicken came to the islands. BAM, Okinawa was no longer a centinarian hub, they drop dead at the same age as everyone else. Okinawa now hosts 20 KFCs.
Significantly more Japanese men today experience Male Pattern Baldness ~36%. 43% in the USA.
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What is everyone's favorite high-protein post-workout bar. I know all the delicious foods high in protein, just want commercial bar recommendations.
Around 15-25g of protein from whey (not collagen), and more importantly actually tastes good.
I've heard great things about Snickers High Protein, but I cannot for the life of me find anywhere that sells them. Been looking in every shop for like 6 weeks, they may not even sell it in the US.
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You don't need to supplement protein.
There is no such thing as a protein deficiency short of starvation. Eat regular whole plant foods, and you're set.
Tp4 recommends, Banana, then White-Rice when you get home.
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What is everyone's favorite high-protein post-workout bar.
"Weider 60% Protein Bar Salted Peanut Caramel, 27g of Protein"
I've heard great things about Snickers High Protein, but I cannot for the life of me find anywhere that sells them. Been looking in every shop for like 6 weeks, they may not even sell it in the US.
Come to the UK, Sportsdirect has them =)
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Looking into creatine and BCAA. I don't have energy problems, and creatine does nothing for muscle growth or recovery, plus it leads to hairless and water retention.
BCAA supplements are not recommended for people with sleeping problems or heart conditions, so that is out too.
100% not going on gear, it makes you look like a cartoon and shortens your life by about 20 years.
Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug
Looking into HMB, that seems like a good low-key option with little to no side effects
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hairless and water retention.
sleeping problems
heart conditions
shortens your life
my only option
How about a simple life with a good diet, fresh air, and good sleep?
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100% Veggies,
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good sleep
Unfortunately that has never been an option for me. I've had sleep issues for about as long as I can remember, all the way back to childhood.
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It's all the dead-bodies you're eating.
It should be intuitive, you come up on a dead body (Cow, Chicken, Pig), you have NO DESIRE to eat it.
It is only through a technological, artistic exertion of Manual-Repackaging, we cut it into geometrically simple blocks, Change the name from CADAVER to BEEF, then cook the majority of its base taste/texture/flavor out of it, SEASON it with VEGETABLES, until it is completely un-recongnizable from the Origin of the material, such THAT MAN could ever find MEAT palatable.
But, here's the thing, You're still eating a dead carcass after the fact, something completely counter to our HUMAN-nature.
Is it not then OBVIOUS, where ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS come from.
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When I was a kid I was forced to eat vegetarian for about 6-7 years. Still had sleep problems. It is a lifelong thing I don't think there is any real solution to other than adjusting my waking hours, but that generally doesn't conform to the rest of the Worlds schedule.
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When I was a kid I was forced to eat vegetarian for about 6-7 years. Still had sleep problems. It is a lifelong thing I don't think there is any real solution to other than adjusting my waking hours, but that generally doesn't conform to the rest of the Worlds schedule.
That experience is entirely anecdotal, your parents/guardian did it wrong. Proof? 10s of MILLIONS of vegans. Proof 2? The majority of mankind was more/less vegan before the industrial revolution out of necessity.
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Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug
You don't even need caffeine. And technically speaking, you don't need protein supplements either, provided you get enough protein from food.
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Guess really my only option is protein and caffeine /shrug
You don't even need caffeine. And technically speaking, you don't need protein supplements either, provided you get enough protein from food.
It's impossible to not get enough protein outside of starvation.
The protein myth is entirely that, a myth. There is no such thing as a protein deficiency, it's not possible outside of corner cases.
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Creatine is the only worthwhile supplement. The hair loss stuff is crap and the whole point of it is water retention in the muscle lol.
Branched chain amino acids are not worth buying if you eat enough protein daily.
Don't know where you're finding these studies but they're not well conducted
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Creatine is the only worthwhile supplement. The hair loss stuff is crap and the whole point of it is water retention in the muscle lol.
Branched chain amino acids are not worth buying if you eat enough protein daily.
Don't know where you're finding these studies but they're not well conducted
Peak Ape form.
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Gorillas actually eat a huge amount of protein, plus insects are not vegan. I think protein is around 40% of their dietary intake. That's what gorillas do with most of their day is eat leaves, and because there is not a lot of nutrition, they have to eat a lot of them which turns them into protein and pooping machines.
All they do is eat and poop in a never ending cycle. So like us.
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Best study show insects account for <0.5% of gorilla's diet.
PROTEIN = Amino Acids, ALL AMINO ACIDS on the planet earth are made BY PLANTS.
This is why Herbivores are the Strongest Species, IE, HUMANS..
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Gorillas actually eat a huge amount of protein, plus insects are not vegan. I think protein is around 40% of their dietary intake.
Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.
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Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.
Protein is one of the most misunderstood nutrient.
It is literally impossible to be protein deficient unless you are in starvation. It is in every single plant food.
A protein is merely a chain of 50 or more amino acids.
The entirety of all amino acids on planet earth is produced BY PLANTS.
A protein can not be utilized after ingestion, UNTIL it is broken up by enzymes into the original amino acids, of which there are 20 (22) total different ones.
Chicken/Cow/Pigs/Lions/Tigers, are all built by plants.
The problem with eating cows/pigs/chickens, apart from it being highly carcinogenic, is the diabetes/heart disease from the extra fats + cholesterol.
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Even chicken breast is ~25% protein by mass. How the hell would gorillas get 40% of their dietary intake from leaves, flowers and fruits? And an occasional fly here and there.
Protein is one of the most misunderstood nutrient.
It is literally impossible to be protein deficient unless you are in starvation. It is in every single plant food.
A protein is merely a chain of 50 or more amino acids.
The entirety of all amino acids on planet earth is produced BY PLANTS.
A protein can not be utilized after ingestion, UNTIL it is broken up by enzymes into the original amino acids, of which there are 20 (22) total different ones.
Chicken/Cow/Pigs/Lions/Tigers, are all built by plants.
The problem with eating cows/pigs/chickens, apart from it being highly carcinogenic, is the diabetes/heart disease from the extra fats + cholesterol.
Isn't the issue with absorbing protein from most plants difficult for humans because of how we break down our food, where as other animals are better suited to consume plants to break down the protein and turn it into a protein (meat) that humans can get more nutrients from?
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Isn't the issue with absorbing protein from most plants difficult for humans because of how we break down our food, where as other animals are better suited to consume plants to break down the protein and turn it into a protein (meat) that humans can get more nutrients from?
No, That's protein-Myth, it's BRO-science.
Humans are Herbivores, our digestive tract is extremely long relative to our trunk size. This is directly indicative that our system is designed to digest PLANTS.
REAL carnivores, such as cats, tigers, lions, have very short digestive tracks relative to trunk length. The reason for this, is they want to get rid of the meat as quickly as possible.
WHY's that Tp4?
What happens to meat in a WET and WARM environment. IT ROTS, PUTRIFICATION.
What happens when HUMANS eat meat, with its LONG digestive track. That meat PUTRIFIES in your gut. This is another reason why Heavy meat eaters are so prone to Gut/ Colon cancers.
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I went carnivore a couple of years ago. I've lost 120 pounds, put on a bunch of muscle, no longer need or take blood pressure meds, anti-inflammatories, or antihistamines, and frankly, I feel a lot better than when I was eating a "normal" diet.
Carnivore doesn't seem to come with the burden of proselytizing that vegans seem to be prone to. We just enjoy the benefits without making a cause out of it.
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I went carnivore a couple of years ago. I've lost 120 pounds, put on a bunch of muscle, no longer need or take blood pressure meds, anti-inflammatories, or antihistamines, and frankly, I feel a lot better than when I was eating a "normal" diet.
Carnivore doesn't seem to come with the burden of proselytizing that vegans seem to be prone to. We just enjoy the benefits without making a cause out of it.
Carnivores are just as bad. Arguably worse right now given their prevalence on social media
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Atkins, South Beach, Keto, Carnivore, Caveman, Cholesterol-Code
It's all the same garbage fad diet, not only is it insanely destructive to blood vessels (cholesterol - > heart disease), it causes cancer.
Carnivore is straight stupidity on top of being Horrible for Climate Change.
Reminder, Dr. Atkins died extremely overweight, and his wife refused autopsy to determine cause of death. Allegedly he went into the hospital for slipping on ice, but most likely he had a stroke/ heart attack which caused him to fall.
It boggles the mind how people can be convinced of something so idiotic, like eating sticks of butter can be the natural human diet.
Social media is kryptonite for morons. People who want to believe SO BADLY that cheeseburgers are the secret to health.
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Carnivore is a diet of eating only meat?
Wow! I always thought that balance and variety were the goal.
I used to wonder about those Eskimos eating seal blubber all winter ....
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I used to wonder about those Eskimos eating seal blubber all winter ....
The preferred term is Inuit, Eskimo is like their "N-word."
The Inuits eat seal blubber due to their extreme environment, there's no reliable farming, but the seal blubber is NOT good for them .
500 year old Inuit mummies were discovered frozen in the ice, they had Severe heart disease (atherosclerosis).
The cause? The damn seal/whale blubber.
Many modern Inuit women have highly toxic breast milk, it's so polluted that they can not breast feed their babies.
The same thing happens with modern Dolphins (mammals) where the very First born pup usually dies from the mother's toxic milk.
Humanity's industrial output dumps roughly ~300 Tons of chemicals per person alive into the environment PER YEAR, why are we then surprised that the ocean is a toxic soup. This toxicity bio-accumulates up the ocean food chain, the larger fish that humans eat are super poisonous.
Not to mention, humans eating bottom feeder ocean- cockroaches (shrimp/lobster), and filter feeders (shells).
If mothers, humans or dolphins, eat tons of fish/ seafood, there will be a huge buildup of mercury, pcbs, dioxins, etc. The only way OUT of the body for many of these chemicals is breast milk. Poof, sick/ dead babies.
It makes you wonder why we have all these idiots walking around eating sticks of butter.
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Ahh man I know it's trite, but these kids on their phones at the gym.
No exaggeration, I saw this kid do 3 sets of 20 on the cable machine in 40 minutes (no I wasn't stalking him, it is just a very tiny apartment complex gym). Each set took him about 2 minutes, and the weight wasn't even high, like you could tell he set it a much lower than he could lift.
Meanwhile, I took 1 45 second break only after my first 20 minutes of cardio that entire time. Why are you even there bro? Does your dad beat you at home and you're waiting for the drink to knock him out? And I feel like I'm wasting MY time going to the gym, seeing that ***** **** just motivated me to pump harder today :p
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After trying a lot of protein bars over the last 10 months, there is only one clear winner.
The only requirements were: A minimum of 20g protein, 200 calories or less, taste like candy.
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Barbells are hands down the tastiest high protein workout bars I tried. All the flavors are great, but for me the Caramel Cashew really delivers on that candy bar taste. I'd eat it on it's own as a treat, let alone as a post-workout bar with decent marcos. I'm so jealous of Sweden, as they have all sorts of limited and exclusive flavors and varieties.
Honorable mentions go to Built Puffs and Snickers Hi-Protein, but they are not even in the same league as Barbells in terms of taste. Puffs are really good, but I think you can only get them online so their distribution sucks. Snickers is kinda hard to find, and VERY chewy, so you'll get a jaw workout as well.
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Noisy, move to England, Barebells are in every supermarket and every petrol station here =)
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Noisy, move to England, Barebells are in every supermarket and every petrol station here =)
They're everywhere on the East Coast of the US too
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Why are you even there bro?
Oh dear, Noisy is turning into one of THOSE gym people :p .
Gonna see if I can find the bars though. I know a couple of bars that are good, but those are impossible to get, so I'm interested in some good-tasting ones :D .
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I thought every day was a bit much, but I met someone today who tries to get in at least 2 workouts A DAY!
At first I thought I misheard him say twice a week, but no, shoots for 3hrs a day 6 days a week. He wasn't even jacked so I do not understand what he's doing and why so often.
And with a full-time job, 2 kids, and a wife. I cannot comprehend how this man is living his life, it makes no sense.
Oh, and I finally got to try every Barbell flavor and the winner is...
Creamy Crisp
By a country mile, it is not even close in terms of taste for me personally. Creamy Crisp flavor straight up tastes like a delicious candy bar. Kinda like a marshmellow coconut, although there is no coconut flavor in it.
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Tp4 unfat 2025 is on going.
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I thought every day was a bit much, but I met someone today who tries to get in at least 2 workouts A DAY!
At first I thought I misheard him say twice a week, but no, shoots for 3hrs a day 6 days a week. He wasn't even jacked so I do not understand what he's doing and why so often.
And with a full-time job, 2 kids, and a wife. I cannot comprehend how this man is living his life, it makes no sense.
Oh, and I finally got to try every Barbell flavor and the winner is...
Creamy Crisp
By a country mile, it is not even close in terms of taste for me personally. Creamy Crisp flavor straight up tastes like a delicious candy bar. Kinda like a marshmellow coconut, although there is no coconut flavor in it.
I know a few people who do this. It takes juggling but they probably train for something and have a very set schedule
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Tp4 unfat 2025 is on going.
Honestly, the best first steps are not even exercise. A full night's sleep and a consistently healthy diet does most of the work. I lost around 30lbs just changing my eating habits over the last 2 years, and only about 15lbs from working out 3x a week for 7 months.
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I know a few people who do this. It takes juggling but they probably train for something and have a very set schedule
How do these people have time for starcraft and armored core.
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I know a few people who do this. It takes juggling but they probably train for something and have a very set schedule
How do these people have time for starcraft and armored core.
My literal motivation is every single time I go to the gym is:
"OK. Just a minimum of 80mins and I can go home, shower, get stoned, and play video games the rest of the night."
As long as I hit that 80min mark, any extra time is pure bonus motivation. It's just a countdown from when I hit my demotivation wall after the first 20-30mins.
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I thought every day was a bit much, but I met someone today who tries to get in at least 2 workouts A DAY!
At first I thought I misheard him say twice a week, but no, shoots for 3hrs a day 6 days a week. He wasn't even jacked so I do not understand what he's doing and why so often.
I know someone like this, but he is really ****ing jacked.
My literal motivation is every single time I go to the gym is:
"OK. Just a minimum of 80mins and I can go home, shower, get stoned, and play video games the rest of the night."
As long as I hit that 80min mark, any extra time is pure bonus motivation. It's just a countdown from when I hit my demotivation wall after the first 20-30mins.
80 minutes is insane, you can have a productive workout in 45.
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I thought every day was a bit much, but I met someone today who tries to get in at least 2 workouts A DAY!
At first I thought I misheard him say twice a week, but no, shoots for 3hrs a day 6 days a week. He wasn't even jacked so I do not understand what he's doing and why so often.
I know someone like this, but he is really ****ing jacked.
My literal motivation is every single time I go to the gym is:
"OK. Just a minimum of 80mins and I can go home, shower, get stoned, and play video games the rest of the night."
As long as I hit that 80min mark, any extra time is pure bonus motivation. It's just a countdown from when I hit my demotivation wall after the first 20-30mins.
80 minutes is insane, you can have a productive workout in 45.
80 minutes is long but depends on intensity and how he breaks it down
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I keep running across these YT channels with people who have clearly spent $10's of thousands of dollars building a crazy nice home gym, and then they are totally out of shape or completely non-muscular.
Such a weird trend and thought process when working out is one of the least expensive and most accessible things you can do with your spare time.
Is it like sunk cost, where they think "If I spend $30k on a home gym, it will force me to get in there and use it!" ?
Some folks just have money to burn, guess why that is the reason the 2nd hand gym equipment market is so huge :confused:
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Tp4 has spent 10s of thousands on Computers, yet the only thing Tp4 actually bothers to program is Arduino.
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I keep running across these YT channels with people who have clearly spent $10's of thousands of dollars building a crazy nice home gym, and then they are totally out of shape or completely non-muscular.
Such a weird trend and thought process when working out is one of the least expensive and most accessible things you can do with your spare time.
Is it like sunk cost, where they think "If I spend $30k on a home gym, it will force me to get in there and use it!" ?
Some folks just have money to burn, guess why that is the reason the 2nd hand gym equipment market is so huge :confused:
Everyone's fitness goals are different. Most with an expensive gym are powerlifters or strongman competitors in my experience on social media. So they don't exactly need to be lean lol. Sure there are outliers though
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The average exercise equipment gets used EXACTLY 1 time, then never again. /coat hanger.
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Final push to 8 months of regular gym. For the next 10 days I'll be going every day for my normal 25/25/20 (25mins doing my core 8 weight training exercises, 25mins doing a 2nd rotation, 20mins aerobics)
This is probably the longest I've ever stuck with anything I actively disliked. Never thought I had the capacity to do so, especially considering I have the free will to just not go at all.
Next goal is 1 year!
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Final push to 8 months of regular gym. For the next 10 days I'll be going every day for my normal 25/25/20 (25mins doing my core 8 weight training exercises, 25mins doing a 2nd rotation, 20mins aerobics)
This is probably the longest I've ever stuck with anything I actively disliked. Never thought I had the capacity to do so, especially considering I have the free will to just not go at all.
Next goal is 1 year!
At a certain point it becomes routine and it feels weird not doing it
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Final push to 8 months of regular gym. For the next 10 days I'll be going every day for my normal 25/25/20 (25mins doing my core 8 weight training exercises, 25mins doing a 2nd rotation, 20mins aerobics)
This is probably the longest I've ever stuck with anything I actively disliked. Never thought I had the capacity to do so, especially considering I have the free will to just not go at all.
Next goal is 1 year!
At a certain point it becomes routine and it feels weird not doing it
Maybe I'll feel the entropy when I stop going? Hopefully more than just feelings of guilt.
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Final push to 8 months of regular gym. For the next 10 days I'll be going every day for my normal 25/25/20 (25mins doing my core 8 weight training exercises, 25mins doing a 2nd rotation, 20mins aerobics)
This is probably the longest I've ever stuck with anything I actively disliked. Never thought I had the capacity to do so, especially considering I have the free will to just not go at all.
Next goal is 1 year!
At a certain point it becomes routine and it feels weird not doing it
Maybe I'll feel the entropy when I stop going? Hopefully more than just feelings of guilt.
Not so much guilt as you realize how helpful it can be even it's just to go do a little
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Final push to 8 months of regular gym. For the next 10 days I'll be going every day for my normal 25/25/20 (25mins doing my core 8 weight training exercises, 25mins doing a 2nd rotation, 20mins aerobics)
This is probably the longest I've ever stuck with anything I actively disliked. Never thought I had the capacity to do so, especially considering I have the free will to just not go at all.
That's great, keep on going.
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I thought every day was a bit much, but I met someone today who tries to get in at least 2 workouts A DAY!
At first I thought I misheard him say twice a week, but no, shoots for 3hrs a day 6 days a week. He wasn't even jacked so I do not understand what he's doing and why so often.
And with a full-time job, 2 kids, and a wife. I cannot comprehend how this man is living his life, it makes no sense.
Oh, and I finally got to try every Barbell flavor and the winner is...
Creamy Crisp
By a country mile, it is not even close in terms of taste for me personally. Creamy Crisp flavor straight up tastes like a delicious candy bar. Kinda like a marshmellow coconut, although there is no coconut flavor in it.
Thanks for the Barebells recommendation btw, they are indeed very good. they don't have creamy crisp in my supermarket but the ones with nuts in them are really good.
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Barbells have been my go-to post workout protien. The texture is just so superior to any other bar I've tried.
Monday was my milestone. I went 6/7 days this past week, and the gains are SO MUCH more noticeable this one week vs like the past month!
I'm ordering a pizza today and taking 2-3 days off. Everything hurts the moment you stop the momentum :-\
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Taking in extra protein accelerates cancer tumor growth as it can increase IGF1. Remember, everyone has cancer lesions (cells) all the time, they're kept in check by the immune system. More Igf1 UP-REGULATES.
It also makes your skin ugly, often leading to Angiofibroma, ugly growths (benign) all over the body as it's trying to dump the excess protein somewhere.
Tp4 is seeing more and more young people these days with horrific complexion, and it's not just acne.
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Barbells have been my go-to post workout protien. The texture is just so superior to any other bar I've tried.
Monday was my milestone. I went 6/7 days this past week, and the gains are SO MUCH more noticeable this one week vs like the past month!
I'm ordering a pizza today and taking 2-3 days off. Everything hurts the moment you stop the momentum :-\
Most of the time I only do 2-3 times a week, really just to not get un-fit. Though I cycle a good deal as well.
Gonna step it up again before I go on holiday though, 5 times a week with extra cardio. Made a huge difference when I did that when I went to Nepal, very happy as it involved a lot of mountain hiking obviously (including at altitude). Glad the exercise agrees with you so well :D .
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Taking in extra protein accelerates cancer tumor growth as it can increase IGF1. Remember, everyone has cancer lesions (cells) all the time, they're kept in check by the immune system. More Igf1 UP-REGULATES.
It also makes your skin ugly, often leading to Angiofibroma, ugly growths (benign) all over the body as it's trying to dump the excess protein somewhere.
Tp4 is seeing more and more young people these days with horrific complexion, and it's not just acne.
Are we just selectively picking studies again and spouting bull****?
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ugly growths (benign) all over the body
those are called muscles, tp
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Are we just selectively picking studies again and spouting bull****?
YES.
https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/doi/pdf/10.7812/TPP/06.974?download=true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study
https://nutritionstudies.org/the-china-study/
https://archive.org/details/the-china-study_202103
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Tp4
spouting bull****?
What?
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tp has been on my ignore list for a good number of years, but obviously GH shows me his crap when other people quote him. Now why people even converse with tp is far beyond my comprehension.
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why people even converse with tp
Many people avoid "conversing" with him, but his turd-posting is relentless.
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why people even converse with tp
Many people avoid "conversing" with him, but his turd-posting is relentless.
Very generally, what we have is eco chamber capture.
The many Fohats, find their eco-chambers, and get used to it, Republicans are bad, Democrats will Save humanity.
The truth is, They're both drowning humanity holding it by the neck.
And Fohat, now plagued by the eco chamber sickness can no longer see both sides of the picture. He can't see that both parties are business parties. He can't see that Bernie Sanders is SINGULARLY the 1 guy doing good.
If we go back and analyze what exactly happened to the Fohat, he's clearly not dumb - dumb, but why has he taken on such a radical position.
Tp4 sees primarily, that the Fohat has made incorrect assumptions about who/what the democratic party is, he's been indoctrinated with the LIES America teaches its children. The fake news has permeated into his belief system. Just the very basic stuff, Hrrm, why did we go to vietnam, why the war on drugs, who started the war in ukraine, if you go into these with the wrong base assumptions that America can do no wrong, well.. you get Fohats.
The vast majority of the problems and world conflicts has its roots based in American Imperialism post ww2. This was a GREAT idea, until it was readily obvious that we COULDN'T rule the world, as Every failed empire throughout history has proven.
And the way power structures work, Now they believe the AI POWERED Surveillance state will accomplish Imperialism..
It's not going to, AI is an extremely fragile technology. People in government don't understand that Computers (BARELY) work, just ask the physicists.
A tiny tiny poke, and computers fall apart.
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tp has been on my ignore list for a good number of years, but obviously GH shows me his crap when other people quote him. Now why people even converse with tp is far beyond my comprehension.
Tp4 recalls, he called Iri an ugly looking bald alcoholic this one time, under a beach photo he posted, and the Iri hasn't forgiven Tp4 since.
LOL. It's ok Iri, Tp4 still sees you, like the Buhhda, he can absorb your witless jabs without care.. I mean the fact that he's here at all, like all of us, no where else to go.
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what the democratic party is
What the Democratic Party is - is the lesser of 2 evils.
Bernie has always been my preference, along with Elizabeth Warren, but all we can do is attempt to bend the arc of the universe towards justice. And that requires a viable possibility of getting to a position of power.
Like I said elsewhere, I wore my Bernie shirt on Monday and still got positive comments on it.
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What the Democratic Party is - is the lesser of 2 evils.
Fine, having witnessed proof of Fohat's alleged Bernie shirt, Tp4 will acknowledge he's aware of The Bern.
Tp4 will concede on that point.
However, Democrats are NOT the lesser of 2 evils. There's no such thing, the world is none linear.
Every democrat president of late, including clinton, obama, biden, would be considered War Criminals.
But it's lucky for us Americans, that we didn't even sign the papers for the world court, We're actually Exempt. That is why they can't try us and we openly violate the Geneva conventions.
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I need to figure out a better way to manage time on gym days, because if I had a full-time job this would not be sustainable at all. Any help is appreciated on where I can cut time- in half would be great.
1hr (Pre-workout supps+shake, enough time to digest everything, and arrive at gym)
60-90mins (time spent actually working out at gym, give or take. Full body.)
1hr 20mins (time to arrive back home, eat a small protein snack, shower)
That is 3hrs and 45mins out of my day 3x a week. That is WAY too much time out of my day. :eek:
There is no way I could keep that up if I was working full-time. Help me.
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Tp4 is also currently engaged in unfattening.
While toiling away at the bike, feeling woo woo from mild hypoxia, yea Tp4 is that unhealthy.
Some recent cloudy thoughts comes back to the fact that we need to _exer_ Cise, at all.
We're locked into un-natural life situations where Debility has become the norm for all age groups.
Exercise itself is a bandaid, and it works alright probably, but see, just as cough syrup, tylenol are $billion businesses, Exercise, is symptom relief, it can temporarily remove the "unwell-ness" of girth, but it is not curing the underlying disease.
The process may fundamentally be unsolvable in via this method, because exercise is not sustainable, either physically, mentally, or spiritually.
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Tp4 is also currently engaged in unfattening.
While toiling away at the bike, feeling woo woo from mild hypoxia, yea Tp4 is that unhealthy.
Some recent cloudy thoughts comes back to the fact that we need to _exer_ Cise, at all.
We're locked into un-natural life situations where Debility has become the norm for all age groups.
Exercise itself is a bandaid, and it works alright probably, but see, just as cough syrup, tylenol are $billion businesses, Exercise, is symptom relief, it can temporarily remove the "unwell-ness" of girth, but it is not curing the underlying disease.
The process may fundamentally be unsolvable in via this method, because exercise is not sustainable, either physically, mentally, or spiritually.
Exercise is sustainable long term. Just like anything in life, you need to prioritize it
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I need to figure out a better way to manage time on gym days, because if I had a full-time job this would not be sustainable at all. Any help is appreciated on where I can cut time- in half would be great.
1hr (Pre-workout supps+shake, enough time to digest everything, and arrive at gym)
60-90mins (time spent actually working out at gym, give or take. Full body.)
1hr 20mins (time to arrive back home, eat a small protein snack, shower)
That is 3hrs and 45mins out of my day 3x a week. That is WAY too much time out of my day. :eek:
There is no way I could keep that up if I was working full-time. Help me.
First, find a gym closer to home.
Second, find a 45 minutes workout.
Third, eat a 'small protein snack' straight away after the session. Eat a normal portion of food when you're home.
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Today I have finally and officially reached my weight goal of 185 - on the dot! With the muscle I've put on over the past 8 months, it's almost like a different person in the mirror. Who tf is that? This is the lightest I've been in over 15 years. Women are turning their heads to look at me, I'd forgotten what a mood boost that is. If I can do it, so can you!
still completely broke and depressed though, but one thing at a time
This thread has been kinda a public journal, and seeing me complain about my health and lack of time 2 years ago to where I am now has been a wild ride. You just have to get hysterical and do it. No excuses. ESPECIALLY on the days you really don't want to exercise or eat well, those are the ones that matter most in the battle.
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Where are the NT swole as f' fotos?
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Where are the NT swole as f' fotos?
I'm reducing my digital footprint as well, been systematically taking down my profiles and pics since the new year. Don't want the wrong people knowing what you look like ;)
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Been sampling many different protein shake meal replacements for preworkout protein the past few months, and I'm very happy with Happy Viking. So far the tastiest and least chalky, plus it's a full meal replacement that doesn't make me feel full or bloated even with the extras I put in. Would recommend :thumb:
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The berry flavor works best for me since I add 1/4 cup of frozen blueberries anyway, Geena Colada and Iced Coffee are good too
Man, health food has come a long ass way from the days of Powerbars and Wheatgrass :rolleyes:
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Health food :-X
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Hit 10 months of consistent gym today! Feels really good, lost around 35lbs, gained some significant muscle growth, opened up an entire new wardrobe that is now accessible and looks good on me, my blood pressure is consistently normal, and I've been sticking to a healthy diet. Still hard for me to believe I've kept with something I didn't like for so long, but the results speak for themselves.
Someone I see regularly in there complimented me on the progress I've made, which is always nice to hear. Don't be afraid to compliment strangers, sometimes they really need to hear something positive, and it can drastically improve their day.
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I have a prescription for going to the gym, which would have made me eligible for a discount at some gyms. But it is expiring soon, and I'm sad that I've never really been able to take advantage of it because of increased pressure at "work".
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I have a prescription for going to the gym
A prescription for good health is sadly lacking. Apparently, there is simply more corporate money to be made from people's suffering than from their health.
Don't be afraid to compliment strangers, sometimes they really need to hear something positive, and it can drastically improve their day.
Most of the problems in the world would evaporate if people were simply nice to each other.
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During cardio yesterday I put on one of my favourite DJ sets, one of the ones I only allow myself to listen to a few times a year. The dopamine hit was so strong that I practically felt like I was flying, and I went more then 50% over my target for the day xD . Almost like taking MDMA!
Hit 10 months of consistent gym today! Feels really good, lost around 35lbs, gained some significant muscle growth, opened up an entire new wardrobe that is now accessible and looks good on me, my blood pressure is consistently normal, and I've been sticking to a healthy diet. Still hard for me to believe I've kept with something I didn't like for so long, but the results speak for themselves.
Someone I see regularly in there complimented me on the progress I've made, which is always nice to hear. Don't be afraid to compliment strangers, sometimes they really need to hear something positive, and it can drastically improve their day.
Noice, well done mate :D . Glad to hear you've found something that gives you so much satisfaction :) .