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Title: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - GB Live
Post by: LittleAad on Thu, 04 January 2024, 14:52:39
GB PAGE LIVE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123387.0)

KeyKobo Yōkai
By: Aad and Izeri
(https://imgur.com/nbyJgYp.png)
A keyset themed around supernatural Japanese beings, also known as Yōkai

Why Keykobo?
Keykobo's prices are appealing with quality standards comparable to GMK

Specs
Cherry Profile
ABS
Keykobo Double-shot + UV
Colors are both RAL and GMK Standard
Hoping to get color and UV samples before any sale

Kits
(https://imgur.com/lI3SSqo.png)(https://imgur.com/1BCxDkQ.png)
(https://imgur.com/UdHZcP6.png)(https://imgur.com/V1nGVLk.png)
Novelties by Stel - stellaidoscope on discord


Board Renders
Renders are NOT a 100% accurate representation of the final product.

Glare TKL by Glare and Geon
(https://i.imgur.com/KL7hCc3.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/7VRZfD8.jpg)

W1-AT by Geon
(https://i.imgur.com/UcTZOe1.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/9UIoorf.jpg)

TGR 910 by Yuktsi
(https://i.imgur.com/hR7p37d.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/NUzESaD.jpg)

Vendors
US: Mekibo
CA: Ashkeebs
OCE: SwitchKeys
CN: zFrontier
EU: Keygem
UK: ProtoTypist
KR: Geonworks

Contacts
For collaborations, please reach out to either of us on discord.

Discord: keebaad or izeri

KeebAad Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/keebaad/) | Izeri Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/izeri.kb/)

 (https://www.instagram.com/izeri.kb/)
Thank you to the beetles for the support and stel for the art  :D

Change log
More
IC Posted - 01/04/2024
Numpad added to base kit, US vendor mekibo added - 4/2/2024
Vendors added - 4/30/2024

Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Thu, 04 January 2024, 14:54:02
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: Fraaaan on Thu, 04 January 2024, 14:56:56
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Keykobo's prices are appealing

What's the appealing price for these kits?

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Colors are both RAL and GMK Standard

Which RAL and which GMK standard?
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: Bub on Thu, 04 January 2024, 15:09:59
looks great!! like that dark green
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Thu, 04 January 2024, 15:20:05
Quote
Keykobo's prices are appealing

What's the appealing price for these kits?

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Colors are both RAL and GMK Standard

Which RAL and which GMK standard?

Base kit will be around 80-90 dollars, and child kits will be between 20-40 dollars, closer to 20 for the numpad, and closer to 40 for the novelties. All @250 moq

I will simply post pics of samples when we get those instead of sharing colors now
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: vheissu on Thu, 04 January 2024, 15:29:03
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: ankit on Thu, 04 January 2024, 16:15:42
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: TyPo.mk on Thu, 04 January 2024, 16:52:54
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: marshmellohs on Thu, 04 January 2024, 17:18:05
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: stellaidoscope on Thu, 04 January 2024, 18:01:21
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: trung11.kb on Thu, 04 January 2024, 20:00:40
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 04 January 2024, 20:54:59
you should go with dcx if you wanna kit like them
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Fri, 05 January 2024, 00:52:52
great job little beetle, GLWIC/GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 05 January 2024, 08:50:48
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vqo9Ni3.jpg)


The base kit is missing R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65%/75% support.

The R1 -_ホー key is missing the sublegend (chōonpu) in the top right. Example:

(https://i.imgur.com/QhtdRN7.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: takuto on Mon, 29 January 2024, 14:54:18
Nice to see katakana subs for once. I personally would've inverted the mod and accent colors to make the set pop a bit more.

Also, if KKB would be up for it, a katakana-only alphas kit would be so fire on this.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Mon, 29 January 2024, 18:19:11
i like the colors a lot but wish KKB had tripleshot
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: involuntarysoul on Tue, 30 January 2024, 00:33:06
mod color is too dark, also latin alpha plz
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: tactilesbad on Tue, 30 January 2024, 03:45:56
this looks like a SXM set but actually good

numpad in base pls? kkb's pricing is already good enough, no need to make people chase child kits for basic keys
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Tue, 02 April 2024, 21:07:35
Howdy, sorry for the lack of updates.

Added Mekibo as a US vendor and added numpad to base, currently looking for regional vendors and a second round of samples. First round was a bit rough. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: bibione on Fri, 05 April 2024, 04:29:27
Any chance for spacebar kit with 3/1/3?
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: kinnju on Fri, 05 April 2024, 23:57:02
I LOVE the novelties but was just wondering what was the inspiration for the colours?

When I think of yokai, I think of more reds, maroons and blacks and even the beige/creams that were the backgrounds of traditional Japanese artwork that these yokai are depicted. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice blue. I just don't necessarily see the correlation with yokai

Bit of a selfish request, but I'd also love if you could duplicate some of the novelty artwork onto R1 keys so you can fill the print, scroll lock and pause with novelties.

I really think the oni should be definitely be an R1 key (so u can put it on esc) considering how iconic it is
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: keepoto on Sun, 07 April 2024, 11:43:34
I LOVE the novelties but was just wondering what was the inspiration for the colours?

When I think of yokai, I think of more reds, maroons and blacks and even the beige/creams that were the backgrounds of traditional Japanese artwork that these yokai are depicted. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice blue. I just don't necessarily see the correlation with yokai

Bit of a selfish request, but I'd also love if you could duplicate some of the novelty artwork onto R1 keys so you can fill the print, scroll lock and pause with novelties.

I really think the oni should be definitely be an R1 key (so u can put it on esc) considering how iconic it is

a peaceful village hidden in the mist where yokais and erm...more yokais live in peace in a post-scarcity society, very appropriate for a calamitous disaster that would form the bombastic opening scene for your next shonen manga series
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Sun, 07 April 2024, 13:40:22
Any chance for spacebar kit with 3/1/3?

Probably not, theyre just ws1 so theyre probably not too hard to find around.

I LOVE the novelties but was just wondering what was the inspiration for the colours?

When I think of yokai, I think of more reds, maroons and blacks and even the beige/creams that were the backgrounds of traditional Japanese artwork that these yokai are depicted. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice blue. I just don't necessarily see the correlation with yokai

Bit of a selfish request, but I'd also love if you could duplicate some of the novelty artwork onto R1 keys so you can fill the print, scroll lock and pause with novelties.

I really think the oni should be definitely be an R1 key (so u can put it on esc) considering how iconic it is

Ive always associated blues with a sort of spookiness which is the general vibe we were going for. If the novelties had more gore we probably wouldve gone with a red colorway.

Thinking about doing an R1 metal artisan with the Oni novelty.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Tue, 30 April 2024, 17:02:39
Quick update, second round of samples ordered, all vendors added.

also... jae will be offering a FREE UK ISO KIT to his buyers, will add a render of the kit for that asap. (ily jae)
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: tom0 on Wed, 01 May 2024, 00:11:12
The novelties are so cool but it'd be nice to be able to see them better
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Sat, 01 June 2024, 11:43:14
Numpad removed from base after receiving new quotes. Current round of samples is looking promising. Waiting on approval from the vendors and izeri.

GB potentially in july or august.

Looking for collabs now!

 :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Sun, 02 June 2024, 04:27:41
 Why use these legends instead of the style that newer GMK sets use:
(https://i.postimg.cc/B3Mmgyzt/Original1vs2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: DivinaPapaya on Tue, 11 June 2024, 09:43:22
Insane that we dont even have numpad on base even with keykobo. They were supposed to destroy GMK not join them. GMK at least pays their workers germani wage, whats keykobo excuse?
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 11 June 2024, 13:42:16
I’m a numpad user who’s been around a while

The perk of keykobo is the decreased price for low volume child kits vs gmk, where splitting base and numpad makes the combined price usually +20% of what it could cost when one kit, and cutting doesn’t save more than 10$. Since w keykobo it’s only a coupla bucks more w split out numpad, and that at least 80%, possibly 95%+ of people never use numpad keys, splitting out isn’t that big a deal.

Given the keyboard tendencies of people I’m glad the f row is still in the base…
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 11 June 2024, 22:34:12
I’m a numpad user who’s been around a while

The perk of keykobo is the decreased price for low volume child kits vs gmk, where splitting base and numpad makes the combined price usually +20% of what it could cost when one kit, and cutting doesn’t save more than 10$. Since w keykobo it’s only a coupla bucks more w split out numpad, and that at least 80%, possibly 95%+ of people never use numpad keys, splitting out isn’t that big a deal.

Given the keyboard tendencies of people I’m glad the f row is still in the base…

Averaging kit prices from 17 KKB sets (7 Full Base, 10 TKL Base + Numpad) yields:
   $96 Full Base
   $92 TKL Base = $4 less than Full Base
   $20 Numpad
   $112 TKL + Numpad = $16 more than Full Base

No two sets are alike, so take this average with a grain of salt. Other variables affect pricing: kit content, number of colors, custom vs. stock colors, with or without sublegends, complexity of novelties, cost margins, MOQ targets, etc.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kqVj0Gqc/KKB-TKL-vs-Full-base.png)

KKB Outer Bounds Numpad take rate was 26% (68 Numpad orders, 258 TKL Base kit orders).

I looked at Numpad take rate about four years ago. While it varied widely, it was rarely less than 20%.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NgsfZkMZ/Numpad-Take-Rate200926.png)

Usually the majority of TKL Base buyers don't buy Numpad, but it's impossible to predict the exact take rate. For KKB sets, should the Numpad minority spend about 17% more so the TKL majority saves about 4%? I don't think there's a right answer, but as a Numpad user I vote no.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: tactilesbad on Wed, 12 June 2024, 05:18:18
Insane that we dont even have numpad on base even with keykobo. They were supposed to destroy GMK not join them. GMK at least pays their workers germani wage, whats keykobo excuse?

3000% agreed.
been skipping every kkb gb without numpad in base
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Thu, 13 June 2024, 13:48:18
Insane that we dont even have numpad on base even with keykobo. They were supposed to destroy GMK not join them. GMK at least pays their workers germani wage, whats keykobo excuse?

3000% agreed.
been skipping every kkb gb without numpad in base

In regards to all the comments about numpad in base, we talked it over with the vendors and at first Mekibo mentioned putting numpad in base and we did.

However after recieving quotes we found out that having numpad in its own kit did not increase its cost in comparison to having it in base. Lets just say the quote for the numpad kit was $10, adding it to base would just increase it by the same $10 not more not less which is not the case with GMK.

Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - 40s in base
Post by: LittleAad on Tue, 18 June 2024, 00:58:56
Added 40s to base and working on getting a GB date. Most likely mid to late july!
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - 40s in base
Post by: ggggggg on Tue, 18 June 2024, 03:03:42
Added 40s to base and working on getting a GB date. Most likely mid to late july!
Add an r3 1.75u Enter and you're not only golden but ahead of the game in terms of 40s support. Cool and versatile set at the top my wishlist.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - 40s in base
Post by: kkai on Tue, 18 June 2024, 04:09:53
GLWIC/GB :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - 40s in base
Post by: LittleAad on Thu, 18 July 2024, 15:10:30
Hi yall, figuring out pricing and whatnot right now.

Planning for a GB starting on the 26th of july ending on the 26th of August.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - 40s in base
Post by: JQ27 on Fri, 19 July 2024, 17:57:22
Would the full UK-ISO addon kit get the UV prints as well? Would look very out of place with a bunch of missing sublegends if the kit was used.
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: Nullifidian on Thu, 25 July 2024, 22:24:38
Insane that we dont even have numpad on base even with keykobo. They were supposed to destroy GMK not join them. GMK at least pays their workers germani wage, whats keykobo excuse?

3000% agreed.
been skipping every kkb gb without numpad in base

I am one of the many enthusiast that has zero need for a numpad.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai
Post by: LittleAad on Mon, 29 July 2024, 14:53:13
Pricing!
$85 Base
$20 Novelties
$20 Numpad

Also added subs to the UK kit and the one and only Geonworks as the vendor for Korea  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:.

Vendor pages will be up today as well as the GB page. Thank you all  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - GB Live
Post by: LittleAad on Tue, 30 July 2024, 17:19:18
GB is live  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KeyKobo Yōkai - GB Live
Post by: Amamiya_nana on Mon, 26 August 2024, 10:07:02
Such a funny Novelty, have fun with KKB!