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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:02:27

Title: OCN makes me sad.
Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:02:27: I'd say it's comparable to living in Nazi Germany.

Back to lurking.. :spy:
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:30:25: OCN makes me happy because I annoy people there and their reactions are funny.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:52:37: What I love about OCN is I was never a member there (I found out about GH through a Google search) but thanks to so many folks here, I can already tell that I wouldn't like it.
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Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:04:58: Some day I will be banned from that place.

Till then...
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Post by: Zen on Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:08:52: Who's "OCN" ??
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Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:33:08: Quote from: Maytan;236928
I'd say it's comparable to living in Nazi Germany.

Back to lurking.. :spy:

They had great fashion sense. Those heavy leather jackets were fab.
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Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:43:25: Quote from: ripster;236960
Maytan, welcome to Geekhack!

You need an Avatar. This one looks nice.
Show Image
(http://www.overclock.net/customavatars/avatar128991_1.gif)

And I have more Rep Points than you with 1/3rd the posts.

I often wonder why my reputation is so lacking.

Then again, who wants to give rep to a guy that breaks stabilizers and pesters Metadot's support to fix them?
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Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 16:54:24: You got rep for directing him to a thread made by runeazn? Sweet mercy, I wish I had your magic touch.

That lmnop is quite the tough one, though. Definitely not a person I'd double cross if I valued my life.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:04:23: Quote from: ch_123;236951
Some day I will be banned from that place.

Till then...

I've already been yelled at by at least 4 moderators, and have gotten the attention of many members. Just because I use Windows for Workgroups 3.11, they debate whether or not I'm real.
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Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:09:29: Quote from: ripster;236982
Runeazn got banged around a bit here.
(http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=226148&postcount=26)

I don't mean to be judgmental, and I know English apparently isn't his first language, but is it so hard to use a spell checker?

It's not a chat room, after all...
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 21 October 2010, 17:10:24: I actually don't own a TI-83 calculator. But I got a few TI-86's they got rid of at work lying around. I also got a few old LED display scientific calculators as well.
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Post by: WhiteRice on Thu, 21 October 2010, 19:07:06: Quote from: microsoft windows;236989
Geekhack has a spam filter. Currently Ignoring: Ripster

Myth-busted
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Post by: HaaTa on Thu, 21 October 2010, 19:17:02: Quote from: WhiteRice;237010
Myth-busted

Lol, unfortunately the ignore filter doesn't work with Forum Spy...
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 21 October 2010, 19:54:01: Quote from: WhiteRice;237010
Myth-busted

Must've pressed the wrong button. Every once in a while that happens and I accidentally view a spam post.

Oops. First time in a while I've actually fell for it and replied to one!
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:06:28: Back on topic...

I'm sure there'll be a load of angry nerds chasing after me once they see this:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13105&stc=1&d=1287709552)
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Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:37:03: Quote from: ripster;237038
You must be piling up infractions by now.

You're not supposed to say screw. I got one for saying "Fukka".

Really?

I seriously like GameFAQs moderators more than OCN mods at this point. I mean, that's even after stuff like this:

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4813/40406227.jpg)

The only moderator I like is Manyak. At least he doesn't go around keeping things G-rated as if the forum was designed for 12-year olds. (wait a minute...)

The only reason I'm staying active on OCN is to get rid of my 5770's. There's no place else to sell them (ebay fines you up the arse, and I'm not a fan of Craigslist); 12 rep to go.
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Post by: Maytan on Thu, 21 October 2010, 20:51:23: The only benefits I know of are access to the marketplace at 35 then somewhere down the line you start earning 'flames'. (also, an overclocked account)
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Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 22 October 2010, 12:54:58: Quote from: microsoft windows;237036
Back on topic...

I'm sure there'll be a load of angry nerds chasing after me once they see this:
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(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13105&stc=1&d=1287709552)

So you admit to trolling on other boards, just not here?
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Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:15:39: Ahhhh wikipedia, the troll's bible :)

You could be right, not sure I want that to be the case though.

Is it possible MW started out as a troll, then actually read one of his own posts one day and wasn't sure if he was trolling or not and thus reverse-self-trolled himself resulting in the anomaly that is MW as we know him today??

.
..
...

no?

Oh, he's just simple? OK.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:31:35: Quote from: instantkamera;237387
So you admit to trolling on other boards, just not here?

I don't troll here anymore. Nowadays, I overall have friendly intentions here. I really don't try to be mean and annoying here. But, if any of you guys truly have some issue with me, just PM me and we can work it out privately.

Now OCN, that's a different story. Geekhack is a small community of nice people run by a good admin. OCN is a bunch of nerds with rampaging 10 year olds who call themselves "mods". I'm not that bad on OCN, but I'm not sure if the "mods" are ready for a good dose of Windows 3.1.

Anyhow, here's my latest work of art (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/850611-do-you-hate-terrorists.html).
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Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:42:52: And the award for "Most Coherent Post by MW" goes to ...

MW.

:eek:
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Post by: Maytan on Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:44:58: Nice poll, I have to admit- I laughed.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:54:15: One of the rampaging 10 year old terrorists (aka mods) deleted it. So, I had to improvise (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/850617-whats-your-favorite-kind-road-kill.html). Wonder how they like road kill...
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Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:14:01: Quote from: ripster;237427
I don't see that poll lasting long. From their rules. (http://www.overclock.net/view.php?pg=rulestos) (Trick question find Geekhacks and especially the FAQ).

geekhack.org/faq.php ?
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Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sat, 23 October 2010, 10:50:05: I got two points for posting the trollface as part of a serious reply and was told to keep it in offtopic. Harumph.
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Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sat, 23 October 2010, 10:59:19: tl;dr boring argument, poorly made joke

too long, will read even though it's uninteresting:

It was the whole 2 pages of misunderstanding context which is an argument I don't wish to revisit. I made a joke that I didn't know the mechanical keyboard guide had multiple pages, and when someone told me what page we were on, I posted the reply and explained that I had known and was just making a joke since I didn't read the posts prior and corrected someone who was knowledgeable about MX switches.
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Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 23 October 2010, 12:59:04: Sounds like that place is just about as much fun as any other totalitarian regime.

Hard rules tend to work best for simple-minded sheep, while driving anyone with at least half a brain nuts.
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Post by: 8_INCH_FLOPPY on Sat, 23 October 2010, 18:23:26: Quote from: Maytan;236928
I'd say it's comparable to living in Nazi Germany.

Back to lurking.. :spy:

And you would know this..... How?
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Post by: runeazn on Sat, 23 October 2010, 18:37:54: Quote from: ripster;236974
If they stopped deleting my posts I'd have more rep points.

Actually this latest rep point (http://www.overclock.net/11076237-post44.html) was pretty funny. Lmnop is gonna stomp my butt.

Grrr omfg omfg omfg why why my rep grr hrmm

Pretty sad he reppdd you for that
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Post by: runeazn on Sat, 23 October 2010, 18:41:39: Quote from: ripster;237766
So what did your parents get you in China? A Red Cherry keyboard? A Ducky?

A T-Shirt?

Naw not a red cherry..
Did not justify the price.

Ducky it was
They fuking cancelled my order.
Sir it is not in stock we are making inventory arrqngements for ducky 1087"in chinese"
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Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 23 October 2010, 18:43:21: Every time I check the links here to OCN threads I get a headache. How do you manage it, Rip?
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Post by: Maytan on Sat, 23 October 2010, 18:43:35: Quote from: 8_INCH_FLOPPY;237763
And you would know this..... How?

Well, OCN hasn't had any incidents of violence.. that I know of.

But, at this rate, Ripster might be getting some threats soon.
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Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 23 October 2010, 20:33:04: Quote from: ripster;237771
My general rule is to educate Geekhack newcomers and irritate Senior Members.

And that's why I stick around :pop2:
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 23 October 2010, 22:26:03: Quote from: ripster
Keyboardlover is about to hit 1000. The magic number.

Thanks for noticing. One more to go!
Wait...does that mean you're going to try to irritate me more?

Please don't force me to go hang out with the folks on OCN :(

(http://www.untoldentertainment.com/blog/img/2010_04_20/nerd.jpg)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 23 October 2010, 22:40:08: Quote from: ripster
You do seem to be taking this threshold seriously with your last set of posts.

How's that?

I don't mind the 'iirritation of senior members' so long as it's lulz-worthy.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 24 October 2010, 10:37:38: My latest poll on OCN (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/851771-do-you-use-computers.html)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 24 October 2010, 10:55:58: Quote from: microsoft windows;237957
My latest poll on OCN (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/851771-do-you-use-computers.html)

I'm tempted to join OCN just to see the stuff MW, Ripster et al. post :D
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:00:18: Comparing me to MW? That's apples and oranges mate.
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Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:10:13: Quote from: keyboardlover;237976
Comparing me to MW? That's apples and oranges mate.

You're both fruits?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:15:02: Quote from: instantkamera;237983
You're both fruits?

Yes. Many others on GH are too.

(http://www.costumzee.com/users/Barbaro-1699-full.gif)
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Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:25:30: Quote from: ripster;237989
I wanna be the banana. They are the most hung.

and they bruise easy.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 24 October 2010, 12:26:18: Good one!
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Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 24 October 2010, 12:32:05: Quote from: ripster;238037
Mine gets soft in a few days.

Then your wife bakes bread with it?
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Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 24 October 2010, 12:40:28: Some people like them in their ice cream.
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Post by: Kairxa on Sun, 24 October 2010, 12:41:25: Quote from: ripster;238046
Kneads it. Mine is fast rising though.

Still, it took days to be softer after full rose? That must be hurt.
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Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 24 October 2010, 12:41:59: Quote from: ripster;238046
Mine is fast rising though.

Too fast, you don't even make it into the oven.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 24 October 2010, 13:05:23: ROFL at the guy on there who said
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And the mechanical guide on OCN is substantially more comprehensive.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 24 October 2010, 13:48:47: Quote from: keyboardlover;238063
ROFL at the guy on there who said
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And the mechanical guide on OCN is substantially more comprehensive.

Basically our whole forum is a mechanical keyboard guide!
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Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 24 October 2010, 14:24:52: Quote from: ripster;238069
The OCN guide isn't bad and will hit an amazing 1 million hits soon.

Unique hits, or the idiots there posting/checking in the nearly 10,000 post thread attached to it?
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Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 24 October 2010, 14:41:40: Too many syllables for 10 year olds. Did you offer cookies?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 25 October 2010, 18:26:42: Quote from: ripster;238675
MW's OCN Poll: "Do You Use Computers". (http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/851771-do-you-use-computers.html)

While checking MW's User Profile I saw WebWit had friended him.

MW, please say yes to my "friend" request so I can subsequently "unfriend" you.

I'm guessing that you make OCN sound like more of a chucklefest than it actually is...
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Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 25 October 2010, 18:36:58: It's not that bad. Christ, you make it sound like the place is run by the Gestapo with help from the Stazis or something.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 25 October 2010, 18:38:16: Nobody's done anything to the "Do you use computers" poll yet.

But the road kill poll was too much for some mod's 10-year-old brain to handle, so they called over their mommy to delete it.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 25 October 2010, 18:40:09: Quote from: ripster;238679
Personality test.

Are you looking at Zooey's legs or wondering why Marvin is so sad?
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(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/the_hitchhiker_s_guide_to_the_galaxy/_group_photos/zooey_deschanel12.jpg)

Definitely the legs. What's that say about my personality?
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Post by: Jimi on Mon, 25 October 2010, 19:03:09: Lots of trolls, fanboys, etc... There's no such thing as preference, only "mine is superior".

Linux section isn't bad.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 25 October 2010, 19:30:08: You all know what? I just came up with the greatest idea. I'll make a PC vs. Mac poll on OCN and watch the fun begin.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 25 October 2010, 19:34:38: Quote from: microsoft windows;238698
You all know what? I just came up with the greatest idea. I'll make a PC vs. Mac poll on OCN and watch the fun begin.

(http://www.sadanduseless.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/303.jpg)
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Post by: Maytan on Mon, 25 October 2010, 20:35:38: Quote from: ripster;238689
The Audio section gets a little weird. The Headphone guide says that you don't want USB headphones partly because USB picks up too much "noise" from the Motherboard. Wha? It's a digital signal. 00011010000101010010101010101010

I'm not defending that guide, as there's plenty of inaccuracies in it, but USB is always criticized for introducing jitter. Jitter basically adds distortion to the sound. It's a bit complicated, but you can find a lot of discussion on the subject over at Head-Fi.

In addition, the more things you have on the same HUB as your sound device (such as a DAC) the worse off your audio is. (reasons should be obvious)
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Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 26 October 2010, 06:10:20: Quote from: ripster;238731
I have three SlimDevice (now Logitech) Slimboxes so have lurked in their endless discussions of jitter - although I've never heard it.

A streaming client would have local clock generation, so jitter shouldn't be a significant issue.

The "USB noise" problem could be caused by either "transmission hiccups" (popular in notebook when switching CPU power states) or just a dirty supply voltage paired with inadequate PSRR for the analog section.
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Post by: wap32 on Tue, 26 October 2010, 06:48:48: Quote from: keyb_gr;238797
A streaming client would have local clock generation, so jitter shouldn't be a significant issue.

The "USB noise" problem could be caused by either "transmission hiccups" (popular in notebook when switching CPU power states) or just a dirty supply voltage paired with inadequate PSRR for the analog section.

Usually power supply noise is indeed the reason to avoid USB powered audio devices.

Typical computer PSU's are noisy, probably because of the HF noise introduced by the switching circuits, not to mention noise introduced all the other devices.
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Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 26 October 2010, 08:04:54: Quote from: wap32;238808
Usually power supply noise is indeed the reason to avoid USB powered audio devices.

Isn't it strange then, that everybody on voice recognition forums recommends using a USB dongle sound card for the mic, because it gives a cleaner signal than most internal sound cards.

And that opinion is backed up by the cold hard fact that the most accurate rates of recognition are achieved by mics connected by USB dongles.

Of course there are many, many cheap and nasty USB sound cards available for around a dollar. They shouldn't be used as a benchmark.
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Post by: Maytan on Tue, 26 October 2010, 11:36:10: Quote from: wap32;238808
Usually power supply noise is indeed the reason to avoid USB powered audio devices.

I still wouldn't say you should avoid USB powered audio devices. I would avoid things like the Logitech G35's, yes. But that's mostly because the drivers (as in the speakers) suck.

Jitter isn't something you really need to worry about until you get some beefier cans. Like HD650's or K702's etc. I want to add that, it's still preferred that you use a linear regulated PSU for any DAC you may use. (as opposed to using either USB or a wallwart.) But upgrading the PSU of a DAC shouldn't be a primary concern until, as I said a few seconds ago, you get some beefier cans.

Another good item for USB audio devices is the ADUM4160 dongle. Provides clock regeneration and separates your DAC from the computer's dirty ground.

Quote from: Rajagra;238835
Isn't it strange then, that everybody on voice recognition forums recommends using a USB dongle sound card for the mic, because it gives a cleaner signal than most internal sound cards.

There's a good chance that the ADC (analog to digital converter) of the USB dongles you're referring to are of higher quality than your onboard.
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Post by: wap32 on Tue, 26 October 2010, 11:42:49: Quote from: ripster;238840
This seems illogical. Use a analog headset powered by a PC instead of a digital headset powered by a PC because of a identical noisy power source?

Yes, you are right, I was in a different context.
This might have to do with me spending too much time lurking on Head-Fi, but I didn't even consider the "analog headset powered by a PC" part.
I assumed the USB headset as an alternative to an externally powered DAC connected to an analog headset.

So yeah, if we're talking between an internal or USB powered sound card, that will be used to output an analog signal to a headset, then the effect of the PSU is the same.
There are other reasons to avoid USB headsets however, such as the fact that you won't be able to upgrade to a higher quality source.

Quote from: Rajagra;238835
Isn't it strange then, that everybody on voice recognition forums recommends using a USB dongle sound card for the mic, because it gives a cleaner signal than most internal sound cards.

And that opinion is backed up by the cold hard fact that the most accurate rates of recognition are achieved by mics connected by USB dongles.

Of course there are many, many cheap and nasty USB sound cards available for around a dollar. They shouldn't be used as a benchmark.

It should be easy to deduce that since internal sound cards are powered by the computer PSU as well, they suffer from the same problem.
How much that affects sound depends on the quality of the sound card, be it USB, PCI, whatever.

Your comment on voice recognition makes sense, but might not be related to power supply issues.
Microphone levels are pretty low (need a gain of about 1000 IIRC) so they are particularly susceptible to noise.
This includes not only noise from the PSU, but also EMI interference from the thousands of signals on the computer.
In lower-end internal sound cards, or laptops, this type of noise can be easy to notice: a static-like sound that usually changes with HDD/USB/CPU usage.
This is simply interference from the many I/O signals on the motherboard.

Using an external device (like a USB card) can reduce the effects of such interference.
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Post by: Maytan on Tue, 26 October 2010, 12:12:18: coolface.jpg
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 26 October 2010, 16:49:45: Alright, this poll (http://www.overclock.net/operating-systems/853383-poll-pc-versus-mac.html)should stir up some attention. And the rampaging 10-year-olds (aka RTYO's or mods) should love it!
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 26 October 2010, 18:05:25: Ripster, according to MW's sig, he's giving you a chance...

...to do a hip hop dance!

(http://www.sportnachtbasel.ch/cms/uploads/tx_doxevents/Jay-Roc_Freeze_mit_Schrei-Breakdance_ret_01.jpg)
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 26 October 2010, 18:13:24: Well, the dumbasses on OCN deleted my lovely poll. So, I created this wonderful screenshot of it for you all to enjoy.

I don't believe this thread was against the rules so if I'm in the mood, I'll make a big stink about its deletion.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13173&stc=1&d=1288134722)
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Post by: instantkamera on Tue, 26 October 2010, 18:23:12: ok that's enough... this is XSS - cross site spamming. Posting about trolling other forums is trolling (unless you are on a troll aficionado forum).
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Post by: Maytan on Tue, 26 October 2010, 19:11:33: Sure.