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Title: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 May 2024, 18:19:35
NE1 got one of these, worth $100?  Seems way overpriced for what it is, buhhhhh, could you build your own for cheaper?

But they do allegedly work better than the traditional ones without a seal.


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Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 08 May 2024, 19:31:50
Thought about it for a bit, $65 is the cost of a refurb air purifier. $110 you can get a new one.

Soooooooooo......

Introducing Laptop Chiller , Tp4 Edition

Features:

Costco C545 air purifier.

Hepa filtration 99% pm2.5 removal, 0% dust.

High performance 243 CADR (CFM) max output.

Manila Envelope, bubble insulated, eco-friendly baffle

Off brand office Tape fastener.

Performance testing.  9750h + 1660Ti,  Minus-10 Celcius cooling Delta using Minimum fanspeed on air purifier.

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Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 09 May 2024, 05:31:43
NE1 got one of these, worth $100?  Seems way overpriced for what it is, buhhhhh, could you build your own for cheaper?

But they do allegedly work better than the traditional ones without a seal.
What if the seal blocks the primary vent?

This is why I call B.S. on all of these unless built by the laptop manufacturer.
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 May 2024, 06:39:58
What if the seal blocks the primary vent?

This is why I call B.S. on all of these unless built by the laptop manufacturer.
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The seal is about the right size for most vents. But they make slightly smaller/ slightly bigger versions to accommodate different sized laptops.  There's a nother brand (IETS) that has removable staged seals to make the opening slightly bigger/ smaller.

The 1 thing Tp4 is cautious about is that the seals are memory foam, and these don't hold up well to heat. Wonder how durable they are.

And of course, these coolers are ridiculously overpriced. $50 would imho be pushing it. $30 and it's a deal. $100, is crazy town.

It creates a pressurized chamber beneath the laptop compared to traditional fans. So the airflow is now unidirectional, and it also cools the whole board like where the ssd is.

In Tp4's g5, the ssd gets pretty hot 61*C,  with the cooler going, it goes down to 44*C.  CPU/GPU Minus 10*C each.


Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 09 May 2024, 14:56:40
Tried some OC, +60mhz on gpu. That's pretty gud'.


For a gaming laptop, this is a pretty interesting mod. The benefit speaks for itself,  but definitely wait for the coolers to come down to $50 ish.  Or DIY like Tp4.

The IETS version has a little filter paper in its intake, it's something to think about since increasing airflow means increased dust ingress.  The filter media size is extremely tiny though, and full of holes around itself, not sure how good that seal is.

DIY using air purifier guarantees good seal and absolutely pristine air. Large impeller means lower rpm, higher air pressure, and almost no noise.

The desktop chillers are noisy beasts. 
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 09 May 2024, 20:55:04
In Tp4's g5, the ssd gets pretty hot 61*C,  with the cooler going, it goes down to 44*C.  CPU/GPU Minus 10*C each.[/size][/color]
SSD controllers like to run cool, the actual memory however runs better and lasts longer at around 60c.

So unless the controller is overheating, it's fine.
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 08:12:12
This is working out so well. Tp4 suspects maybe 1st party will introduce these aero-docks.

If you got this kind of pressure, you can get another 50-75 watts out of the cooler easy. Which is huge for processing power.

A bypass valve on the laptop would make this work better.  If they straight injected it over the heatsink instead of through the fans, which in this configuration become obstructions.
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 09:22:58
Found one on aliexpress.  This is much more reasonably priced. But no reviews.

ONLY 220V, soooo might need an adapter, or hook up your own 12v DC?


Aliexpress $55 (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805944535477.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.3.72232844qTf2HR&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=e792acd8-b23a-4470-853d-97f7f9efbc97&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:e792acd8-b23a-4470-853d-97f7f9efbc97,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2155.45%2155.45%21%21%2155.45%2155.45%21%402101fb0b17153500145902089e6903%2112000035898786423%21rec%21US%21%21AB&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A)
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 09:57:44
Wtheck, Tp4 just checkd' dat China sites,  they sell the same $100 iets cooler from amazon for $50.

Import = Double price. Get out.


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Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 10:26:16
OMG,  this BS1, air flow optimized. Go to 5:38 for teardown. 

There's gonna be alot of these coming to market, this one is the coolest so far.  Goes for $40usd in China.


 Promo video (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NK421Y7wz/)
Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 10:36:15
Found it..

It's called Flydigi  Bs1
   

Tp4 is ALMOST 93% sure this is the best on the market.

Flydigi BS1 (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806753808565.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.59f05519ZpGDZg&algo_pvid=fb4ea7d3-68c3-48a2-85b4-80bc9bfbb7cf&algo_exp_id=fb4ea7d3-68c3-48a2-85b4-80bc9bfbb7cf-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21113.62%2156.81%21%21%21113.62%2156.81%21%402101c80217153553324143350eff9c%2112000038798578370%21sea%21US%210%21AB&curPageLogUid=4LgyPNXVTThJ&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A)

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Title: Re: These laptop chillers
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 10 May 2024, 10:58:36
Ok, wait wait wait.. now, ok, so it looks like, you can't get to that stupid net easily for cleaning. Not a deal breaker, but this is going to be a pain to deal, you gotta get in there with a brush or something, and vacuum it out on the sly.