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Title: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:51:09

(https://i.imgur.com/WgqpZGH.png)

KKB Triumph Adler Neo


SKME Discord (https://discord.com/invite/v2sWm88) MASJE Discord (https://discord.gg/HxJFHkyjbf) IC FORM (https://forms.gle/RydcWkM3YZLt49cT6)


WHY???

Both James and I want this. It is as simple as that. A classic set that we believe should make a comeback.
Keykobo at this point have been putting out a good product in a reasonable time frame. What's not to like?!

Colors

We will be matching to the original. I will have my hands on this when I return on July 10, and then we can proceed.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255074908841578548/1255467744858472460/IMG_3915.jpg?ex=667d3cf3&is=667beb73&hm=2d21173ceedce820184ce207a226dd27f1fcaa7ffe4b4d269bba408d0c467a9d&)

Kitting
Target prices are subject to updates.
The key thing to note, despite kits being split, is trying to get a 'full base' at $95.


Base kit - $72 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/jQo0iT9.png)

Numpad - $13 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/gyiBoqa.png)

Addons, including 40s & bars - $10 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/sag6qI3.png)

F-row and shine-throughs - $12 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/Sk7BlnE.png)

Norde kit - $20 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/AiACGDn.png)

Alt mods, considering a slimmed-down version of this - $40 estimate

(https://i.imgur.com/7Kv7hGX.png)

We may consider text-icon for the alt mod kit specifically. Here's a render sample on the Glare. Let us know!

More
(https://imgur.com/CmVEOKv.png)


Full kit pricing
Target price for BASE + ADDON + NUMPAD = 95 USD


Deskmats

Work in progress.

Vendors
We have reached out to blank regions earlier today. Subject to updates.
Confirmed vendors:
MENA - SKME
Taiwan - TypoWorks
US/CA -
EU - Oblotzky
UK - ProtoTypist
SEAS - ILumKB
OCE - Daily Clack
China - Zfrontier
Korea - GeonWorks

My luck with Indian vendors is all over the place so I handle these orders myself, and would suggest if you’re located here to create an Aramex SNS account. It is an efficient method and wholeheartedly cheaper for the buyer.

KKB Deutsche Mods
German mods are very cool. It is an option I really want to bring to the table.
New molds will(might) be made for these - it is expensive, we're doing some hard negotiating.
If you are seriously interested in these please take note in the IC form, it will help us gather more information and ideas on how to approach it.

TA
(https://i.imgur.com/d040ULl.png)

Beige
(https://i.imgur.com/Vx95HO5.png)

WOB
(https://i.imgur.com/VS46LZy.png)


Renders

Type-B

(https://i.imgur.com/54r0Umo.jpg)

Type-B

(https://i.imgur.com/kqEExwc.jpg)

Glare by Geonworks

(https://i.imgur.com/wOi4fMF.jpg)

Petrichor by Alchemist keyboards

(https://i.imgur.com/9cJ3wxi.jpg)

i69 by illuminati.works

(https://i.imgur.com/SCVjTxR.jpg)



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Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:51:23
Reserved for updates

26/06/2024: color match with OG announced. Added vendors. Noted for nipples and a potential r5 kit.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: rookb on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:53:50
Very cool
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: HubertThemad on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:54:03
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm in for all kits. Have no actual useful information to provide besides my wallet lmao

edit: James + Baul team up is like the formation of the keebvengers. Two very based individuals
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Chippy on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:56:16
So happy you followed through with this design, I know you've wanted to do it for a long time. Best of luck!!!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: tanghus on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:02:16
Yes please.

Figured I'd leave my thoughts here as well:

- I'd love to see R5 for this, even if offered as it's own kit.
- Nipple 5? I've heard of KKB's stance on new molding, but considering that potentially 4 numpad kits are offered here this seems like the best time possible to make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: tactilesbad on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:09:28
you're dead set in making me buy the full kitting to all these kkb sets. this conspiracy has to end
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: mongoose27 on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:09:37
heck yeah!  Love the keyset and if you can achieve that pricing... :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: marcowhatever on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:11:58
It's not dcs anymore 😭 (this is very nice mr paul)

 
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Fraaaan on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:26:19
R1 PgDn and End can be moved to numpad kit since those are for 1800 support.

Awesome project. Prices look great too, GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: LMarci on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:45:12
Hell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Tue, 25 June 2024, 13:13:37
Quote from: Fraaaan on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:26:19
R1 PgDn and End can be moved to numpad kit since those are for 1800 support.

Awesome project. Prices look great too, GLWIC!

Yes, you're right. Thanks!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: DivinaPapaya on Tue, 25 June 2024, 13:58:56
This looks gorgeous, will probably be buying, thank you for all your projects Baul!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: xLeHoy on Tue, 25 June 2024, 14:02:59
Oh yes, such great colours!

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: rustze on Tue, 25 June 2024, 14:39:38
I want this.
GLWC.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Cringelord on Tue, 25 June 2024, 15:06:35
A Key Kobo set with pricing in line for what it is, and classic colorway. Hot
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Thebloodyez on Tue, 25 June 2024, 16:34:45
The kitting is nice, the kittens were nice, the price is nice.
I wished there was a XT kit but the addons is something neo.
GLWIC and cant wait to see the GB! :thumb:.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 25 June 2024, 16:55:08
Hot take

Love the F row kit where you’re gonna front print the OG F row symbols. What if those caps were also relegendables?

I’m still gonna buy without it
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Kinesiologist on Tue, 25 June 2024, 17:27:06
Love this, thanks for bringing it back
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 26 June 2024, 01:57:18
Quote from: tanghus on Tue, 25 June 2024, 12:02:16
Yes please.

Figured I'd leave my thoughts here as well:

- I'd love to see R5 for this, even if offered as it's own kit.
- Nipple 5? I've heard of KKB's stance on new molding, but considering that potentially 4 numpad kits are offered here this seems like the best time possible to make it happen.

We already discussed potential putting in a r5 kit / nipple key into base (taking out the previously mentioned pg up/dn). I’ll come back to this in a bit, thanks for bringing it up
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 26 June 2024, 02:28:57
IIRC TA and TA90 were using different colours.

Also ne chance for using the better mod option of Mods + Icon ?  :p
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 26 June 2024, 03:48:39
Quote from: superdoedoe on Wed, 26 June 2024, 02:28:57
IIRC TA and TA90 were using different colours.

Also ne chance for using the better mod option of Mods + Icon ?  :p

Damnit I mix up the nomenclature…I should clarify this, and I’ll update the post tonight. The original GMK rerun for TA got colors way off, so I’m using the TA90 from 2018 as a test. Still going to hunt the original ta set, pre GMK, and use those as well for color samples. All will be shown publicly as I’m testing.

Text icon? Perhaps. Make a note of it in the IC form  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: LogolicusZ on Wed, 26 June 2024, 06:41:44
Set looks nice, GLWIC

But if i had to say something that KKB is known for having not the best placement for their legends like for example the right-shift key.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Randomlosername on Wed, 26 June 2024, 06:59:51
I really like this! I love the side printed F row and shine through addons.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Wed, 26 June 2024, 12:37:41
cool kitting
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Piperaceae on Wed, 26 June 2024, 14:44:47
I noticed there's no UK support in the Norde kit or otherwise. Which is fine, though if it's selling through ProtoTypist there, they might like that?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 26 June 2024, 14:55:36
Quote from: filefish on Wed, 26 June 2024, 14:44:47
I noticed there's no UK support in the Norde kit or otherwise. Which is fine, though if it's selling through ProtoTypist there, they might like that?

We have it rendered - I forgot to add here, but TLDR all uk orders will have this included afaik
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Magnificent Bureaucrat on Wed, 26 June 2024, 16:50:01
Quote from: filefish on Wed, 26 June 2024, 14:44:47
I noticed there's no UK support in the Norde kit or otherwise. Which is fine, though if it's selling through ProtoTypist there, they might like that?

Unless something has changed I'm pretty sure any KKB set purchased through Prototypist have the option of adding the ISO-UK keys free of charge. Jae eats the cost because he's too good to us.

I'm definitely down for a few sets and I'd love to see the molds get made for German mods.

Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: carlanthony on Wed, 26 June 2024, 17:46:45
Wow it's been a very long time since I thought of this set. Loving this resurgence of classic sets for sure. Definitely keeping an eye on this one!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Koniotaur on Thu, 27 June 2024, 00:04:58
I think I would have expanded 40s kit to feature more keys to be honest. The way it is it seems to aim for mainly Minivan (12.75u) style boards.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: iwobobul on Sun, 30 June 2024, 09:21:01
Kinda wish there was also alt alphas kit (simply inversed, like what the base mods are). I would then buy base, alt alphas and alt mods and have two monosets.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Saurov on Mon, 01 July 2024, 11:55:34
looks great, definitely interested in this colour! GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Mon, 01 July 2024, 15:20:41
i'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Sat, 06 July 2024, 03:15:16
Quote from: iwobobul on Sun, 30 June 2024, 09:21:01
Kinda wish there was also alt alphas kit (simply inversed, like what the base mods are). I would then buy base, alt alphas and alt mods and have two monosets.

It’s honestly a cool idea. I’ll ask James to render it up to see what it might look like
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Sat, 06 July 2024, 15:01:57
Do you have a date for the groupby in mind already?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: AMZ on Sat, 06 July 2024, 18:41:23
Are you going to run it as GMK anytime later?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Akele on Sun, 07 July 2024, 05:48:57
Will you offer UK keys in the base kit or NorDe kit? You show them on the Petrichor render, but I can't see them in any of the kits.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Alex-DM on Sun, 07 July 2024, 06:59:25
I'm absolutely in for this!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: quaks on Sun, 07 July 2024, 07:18:51
looking good!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 15 July 2024, 11:24:44
Quote from: Akele on Sun, 07 July 2024, 05:48:57
Will you offer UK keys in the base kit or NorDe kit? You show them on the Petrichor render, but I can't see them in any of the kits.

Kits to be rerendered i believe but Jae has an agreement with KKB to get UK ISO specific keys included for his orders :D
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Akele on Wed, 17 July 2024, 01:16:48
Quote from: paulgali on Mon, 15 July 2024, 11:24:44
Kits to be rerendered i believe but Jae has an agreement with KKB to get UK ISO specific keys included for his orders :D

Nice! Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: lastkey on Thu, 15 August 2024, 14:46:36
So in for this


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Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 16 August 2024, 07:53:31
Quote from: paulgali on Tue, 25 June 2024, 11:51:09
Base kit - $72 estimate

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jQo0iT9.png)


Numpad - $13 estimate

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gyiBoqa.png)


Addons, including 40s & bars - $10 estimate

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/sag6qI3.png)


R1 End, PgDn keys should be moved from Base to Numpad since they are only ever used in conjunction with numpad keys in layouts such as 1800/CP/96-key. Example kit. (https://imgur.com/UdHZcP6.png)

A second R4 2.25u Shift key should be added to either Base or Addons for 66-key layout compatibility.

Some mod keys are missing from Deutsche Mods, e.g. 65%/75% right column support and the aforementioned R1 keys for 1800/CP/96-key; but this is probably intentional to keep costs down.

Kitting looks pretty good otherwise.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: Alex-DM on Fri, 16 August 2024, 12:39:05
Hum... And what about R4 Caps Lock keys? I think that many people who use Control in R3, just like I do, would be very pleased.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Sat, 28 September 2024, 16:33:26
How's it going? Looking forward to the GB. Any dates yet?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: involuntarysoul on Wed, 20 November 2024, 22:36:43
monotone with altmod will be so fire
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Thu, 21 November 2024, 22:10:35
An Alt Alphas kit  in Blue would've been cool too


Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: tactilesbad on Tue, 26 November 2024, 02:59:58
any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: stoffelduss on Sat, 21 December 2024, 09:01:14
I'd love this! (I learned touch typing on an adler typewriter with colors like this :D)
But I'm using Colemak. Have you considered a Colemak kit? It's been a while since we had good looking Colemak keycaps (typing this on Colemak ePBT Be The One)
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Sat, 21 December 2024, 15:49:14
Also hoping for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Sun, 16 February 2025, 08:03:27
Still hoping to get it.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Wed, 19 March 2025, 14:10:30
Hope is fading though. :(
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: HungerMechanic on Wed, 19 March 2025, 15:52:33
You are not the only one looking for updates.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: HubertThemad on Wed, 19 March 2025, 16:15:13
For those that are not in Paul's discord (SKME) or Jomes' discord (Masjewerke), I'll just post these updates here!


Quote
From Paul:

September 13th, 2024

Covid season 5 for me.

I’ve had a horrible few (6-8) weeks. But we’re moving ahead with color matching. James was in Dubai so he now has the OG and GMK caps to handle the colors with kkb.

Delays are on me, I have felt like **** physically and mentally but we’re on the mend. Expect some updates soon(ish) once kkb start color things .

Quote
From James/Masjewerke:

March 8th, 2025

Color matching at KKB!

edit to include both their discord links -

Paul - https://discord.gg/4BAQ4ctShU
Jomes - https://discord.gg/ABcNbzw23Z

Hang in there, lads!
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 19 March 2025, 16:19:51
good news! thanks
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: pseudonym on Sun, 23 March 2025, 09:30:44
Quote from: HubertThemad on Wed, 19 March 2025, 16:15:13
For those that are not in Paul's discord (SKME) or Jomes' discord (Masjewerke), I'll just post these updates here!

edit to include both their discord links -

Paul - https://discord.gg/4BAQ4ctShU
Jomes - https://discord.gg/ABcNbzw23Z

Hang in there, lads!
Thanks a lot for the update, I can't wait for this to happen.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Triumph Adler Neo | Returning a classic
Post by: airs on Wed, 26 March 2025, 16:23:10
Excited about this set. Text + Icon (at least as a child kit) please!