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Title: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB LIVE
Post by: enomooshiki on Fri, 26 July 2024, 13:53:33

ASCII-F
PCB Top Mount 65TK

(https://i.imgur.com/TdoueNI.jpg)

When I picked up an old WYSE ASCII (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Wyse_ASCII) off Craigslist, it reminded me of a keyboard layout I desired a few years ago: a full 65% keyboard with a complete numpad that includes arrow keys, a navigation cluster (PgUp, PgDn, Home, End), and a 2u 0 (zero) key on the numpad.

Taking design cues from some of my favorite keyboards, I kept the bezel quite thin and the overall profile simple and slim.

The Plateless Top Mount provides a soft and 'bouncy' typing experience without being flexible. If soldering plateless is a daunting task for you, we will have options available for hotswap PCBs and plates.

GB LIVE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=124310.0)

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0. CONTENTS

DETAILS
STATUS
VENDORS & PRICING
RENDERS
PHOTOS
OTHER MEDIA
FAQ
SPECIAL THANKS

1. DETAILS

Typing angle 7.0°
Front Height : 17.8mm (after cherry lip), 20mm (before cherry lip)
Mounting Method : Plateless Top Mount
PCB : Designed by Freather with Universal USB-C daughteboard - configurable with QMK/VIA
Solder PCB Layout Option

(https://i.imgur.com/YGIAiVE.png)

Hotswap PCB Layout Option

(https://i.imgur.com/aCzVrTN.png)

Base Kit
- Top Case
- Bottom Case
- Daughter Board with JST Cable
- Solder PCB
- Carry Case
- Microfiber Towel
- Case screws
- DB screws
- Top Mount screws
Case Options
- Alu Top + Alu Bottom
- Alu Top + Brass Bottom
- Alu Top + Copper Bottom (Limited Edition maybe)
Colors For Alu Top + Alu Bottom
- Black Top + Silver Bottom
- E-Beige Top + Silver Bottom
- E-Beige Top + Black Bottom
- E-White Top + Black Bottom
- Silver Top + Black Bottom
Colors For Alu Top + Brass Bottom/Copper Bottom
- E-Beige
- E-White
- Black
- Silver
Weight Unbuilt
- Alu Top + Alu Bottom = 1.34kg
- Alu Top + Brass Bottom = 3.46kg
Plate Options for Hotswap PCB
- PC
- FR-4
- PP
- Alu
Optional Alu Wrist Rest : matching anodization or e-coat with top case
Indicator LED for Caps Lock and Num Lock keys

2. Status

Proto v1 was ordered with e-beige top and full brass bottom, along with a matching wrist rest
- prototype PCB came with no indicator LED
- Used the fly daughterboard
- noticed a bit of rattling and pinging
- rattling was caused by inaccurate PCB size. PCB was too 'tall' and making contacts with top case
- Modified the PCB in different ways in an effort to remove pinging.
- Minor adjustments to mounting points and case screw points
Proto v2 was ordered with new adjustments and new PCB design, Black Top + Silver Bottom
- change Daughter Board to Universal Daughter Board with USB-C
- no more rattle and pinging
- 2 solder PCB plateless build done on twitch channel
Changes to be made for Proto v2.1
- move daughterboard closer to the edge by 0.5mm
- Solder PCB bottom row layout has changed a bit
- Solder PCB will be in yellow. while Hotswap PCB will stay black
Update July 29th, 2024
- Solder PCB color will be changed to 'orange/yellow' to closely match the original PCB color of WYSE ASCII
- Added Split Backspace option for Hotswap PCB
- Hotswap PCB color will be changed to 'green'
Update August 26th, 2024
- Found out that orange pcb will cost significantly more. Solder PCB will be yellow
- Prototype v3 units have been ordered. These two units, along with the v2 unit will be sent out to some content creators
- Prototype v3 PCBs have been ordered. This round of PCBs will reflect the latest changes, including the new color for solder and hotswap PCBs.
Update December 27th, 2024
- Prototype v3 units and PCBs arrived
- prototype v3 units scheduled to be sent out to content creators
- GB price set and updated
- GB period from January 13th, 2025 until March 1st, 2025

3. Vendors & Pricing

Vendors
-NA: Zenclack (https://zenclack.com/)
-Asia/AUS: Zenclack (https://zenclack.com/) , fulfillment for Korea to be out of Busan
-UK&EU: Prototypist
-China: Freather's Studio
Price
- Alu Top + Alu Bottom = $250 (with solder PCB) $280 (with Hotswap PCB + plate)
- Alu Top + Brass Bottom = $450 (with solder PCB) $480 (with Hotswap PCB + plate)
- Alu Top + Copper bottom (Limited to 10 units) = $500 (with solder PCB) $530 (with Hotswap PCB + plate)
- Alu Wrist Rest (color matched to top case) = $50
- Extra Solder PCB = $40
- Extra Hotswap PCB = $45
- Plates = $25

4. Renders

Actual coating and anodizing may look a bit different from these renders. Please use these renderings as a reference.
renders by mur1_fat (https://www.instagram.com/mur1_fat)

Beige Coating Top + Brass Bottom + GMK Hiney Beige

(https://i.imgur.com/ySbxZM4.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3KB086B.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CSK4rjX.jpeg)

White Coating Top + Black Ano Bottom + GMK WoB

(https://i.imgur.com/ip9qG3D.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Exi61qn.jpeg)

Silver Ano Top + Brass Bottom + GMK Evil Eye

(https://i.imgur.com/mZ5rTtq.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pApRQNl.jpeg)

Black Ano Top + Silver Ano Bottom + GMK ASCII

(https://i.imgur.com/pOCZtai.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SQc4XME.jpeg)

4 Options for Brass Bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/7eF0JlT.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UjJBKfZ.jpeg)

5 Options for Alu Bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/GKyQiQt.jpeg)

Beige Coating Top + Brass Bottom + GMK Blue Alert R2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123485.0) (special render by Steven Olver (https://www.instagram.com/stevenolvercg/))

(https://i.imgur.com/kLyrovM.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v86NKmz.jpeg)

5. Photos

Proto V1 with matching wrist rest

(https://i.imgur.com/IoOvx35.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/L6O9dlx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jh8KybD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/jw9gg8T.jpg)

Proto V2 with GMK WoB Hangul

(https://i.imgur.com/j1Anzj6.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/TdoueNI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/py0fv4U.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/RdSmRO6.jpg)

Proto V2 with GMK DMG

(https://i.imgur.com/9mQVv95.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/7uwEAar.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eZYnKOA.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6fzhrsU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3BBWnu2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/aXkM9yB.jpg)

7. OTHER MEDIA

Typing test with Ergo Clear, Plateless, Alu Top and Bottom by TimKeyLess

Review by Keybored

Typing test with Cherry MX Black, Plateless, Alu Top and Bottom

Typing test with HMX Jammy, Plateless, Alu Top and Bottom

Typing test with BSUN BCP, Alu Plate, Hotswap PCB, Alu Top and Bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/EsEydmc.png)

8. FAQ
coming soon^TM

9. SPECIAL THANKS

My lovely wife, for putting up with my numerous hobbies
Tofumania, for putting my vision into Fusion 360
Glendel/Zenclack, for having faith in ASCII-F
Freather, for coming in clutch with PCB design
TimKeyLess, for getting me into this crazy hobby
Gok, for letting me use his IC page style
Lightning & Manoli, for helping me through IC creation

Thank you very much.

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Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: ummmmm on Fri, 26 July 2024, 13:56:22

based layout, I am loving this

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 26 July 2024, 13:58:24

Oo that's a pretty work-versatile layout, and a simple but striking aesthetic to the board. Price is also very appealing. GLwIC! Looks great.

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: TimKeyLess on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:00:12

65 good. numpad good. pcb top mount good. very excite. GLWIC

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Kaptain Mike on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:01:50

mhm yes. good layout. good price. much good here. good job frankypoo :cool:

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Bokehhbob on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:21:28

Yes on the layout!

Personally think you should add more hotswap layout support.

Split BS and Split LS wouldn’t take that much work to add, considering most hotswap pcbs come with as much layout support as solder PCB’s do now a days I think it would be a good add.

Either way I’ll most likely be in.

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Fri, 26 July 2024, 15:26:46

Love the variety in layouts we've been getting lately

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: MatthewEncina on Fri, 26 July 2024, 15:42:54

Love the layout Frank. Love the simplicity of this. Good luck with the sale!

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Meepergon on Fri, 26 July 2024, 17:04:08

absolutely love the layout, love the aesthetic, love the mount. excited to see this happen!

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Zouabee on Fri, 26 July 2024, 17:54:41

love the layout! sick design and awesome pics

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Rob27shred on Fri, 26 July 2024, 18:47:00

This is super nice, love the minimalist design language & PCB top mount sound just chef's kiss! Definitely gonna be keeping up with this one, awesome work enomooshiki!

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: typface on Fri, 26 July 2024, 19:39:31

looks amazing with a great layout to boot. glwic!

Title: Re: ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Keeblord_Elf on Fri, 26 July 2024, 21:24:25

:thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 03:36:57

Quote from: Bokehhbob on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:21:28

Yes on the layout!

Personally think you should add more hotswap layout support.

Split BS and Split LS wouldn’t take that much work to add, considering most hotswap pcbs come with as much layout support as solder PCB’s do now a days I think it would be a good add.

Either way I’ll most likely be in.

Hello Bokehhbob! Fancy seeing you here.

That's something I can look into. HOWEVER, I would highly HIGHLY suggest folks to consider solder PCB over hotswap with ASCII-F.
It was designed to be plateless.. so if you are able to solder (or find someone who can) , you shouldn't think about getting the hotswap.

Do people use Split LeftShift with ANSI?

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Fluxius on Sun, 28 July 2024, 06:59:12

Quote from: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 03:36:57

...
Do people use Split LeftShift with ANSI?

I know some people use layouts like uk-iso or german-iso with ansi enter instead of iso enter, but still keep the split left shift.

I think your layout picture for the solder pcb is missing the bottom row option shown here: https://imgur.com/9mQVv95

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 28 July 2024, 07:19:11

This is lovely!

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Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Bokehhbob on Sun, 28 July 2024, 08:48:47

Quote from: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 03:36:57

Quote from: Bokehhbob on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:21:28
Yes on the layout!

Personally think you should add more hotswap layout support.

Split BS and Split LS wouldn’t take that much work to add, considering most hotswap pcbs come with as much layout support as solder PCB’s do now a days I think it would be a good add.

Either way I’ll most likely be in.

Hello Bokehhbob! Fancy seeing you here.

That's something I can look into. HOWEVER, I would highly HIGHLY suggest folks to consider solder PCB over hotswap with ASCII-F.
It was designed to be plateless.. so if you are able to solder (or find someone who can) , you shouldn't think about getting the hotswap.

Do people use Split LeftShift with ANSI?

Personally would get solder and do plateless, I was moreso thinking of the lines of bringing in more people interested in the board. I feel a large part of the community doesn’t solder (either doesn’t know how or want to)

Just my thoughts.

Either way excited for this board. Love the layout and plateless top mount is a chefs kiss!

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: rodrimauricio on Sun, 28 July 2024, 08:59:21

I am starting in this hobby and this will be my first solder PCB for sure. Congrats on the great effort and results you have achieved with the case design, mount, and sound. I love the layout.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: DaaDaa on Sun, 28 July 2024, 09:21:29

Love the design. I'm in

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: DaaDaa on Sun, 28 July 2024, 09:23:02

Numpad on left please as am option

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 10:43:38

Quote from: Fluxius on Sun, 28 July 2024, 06:59:12

I think your layout picture for the solder pcb is missing the bottom row option shown here: https://imgur.com/9mQVv95

haha yes yes, you are correct

the bottom row option shown in the photo will NOT be available in the final PCB design

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 10:44:54

Quote from: Bokehhbob on Sun, 28 July 2024, 08:48:47

Quote from: enomooshiki on Sun, 28 July 2024, 03:36:57
Quote from: Bokehhbob on Fri, 26 July 2024, 14:21:28
Yes on the layout!

Personally think you should add more hotswap layout support.

Split BS and Split LS wouldn’t take that much work to add, considering most hotswap pcbs come with as much layout support as solder PCB’s do now a days I think it would be a good add.

Either way I’ll most likely be in.

Hello Bokehhbob! Fancy seeing you here.

That's something I can look into. HOWEVER, I would highly HIGHLY suggest folks to consider solder PCB over hotswap with ASCII-F.
It was designed to be plateless.. so if you are able to solder (or find someone who can) , you shouldn't think about getting the hotswap.

Do people use Split LeftShift with ANSI?

Personally would get solder and do plateless, I was moreso thinking of the lines of bringing in more people interested in the board. I feel a large part of the community doesn’t solder (either doesn’t know how or want to)

Just my thoughts.

Either way excited for this board. Love the layout and plateless top mount is a chefs kiss!

I appreciate your thought.
definitely will consider adding few more options for hotswap

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: HubertThemad on Sun, 28 July 2024, 10:58:37

Very cool concept! I'll also be following this closely. GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Deru on Sun, 28 July 2024, 11:18:33

Love the layout. Would like there to be a (1.5u, 1.5u, 7u, 1.5u, 1.5u, arrows) bottom row layout option for solder pcb if possible.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: nessMINI on Mon, 29 July 2024, 04:36:59

I LOVE this. I have been waiting for this layout for GOD KNOW HOW LONG. I AM IN FOR ONE FOR REAL. LET'S GET THIS GOING! :D

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: aumz.work on Tue, 30 July 2024, 01:40:48

Love the layout and simple design

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Tue, 30 July 2024, 01:59:56

Small updates on PCBs

- Solder PCB color will be changed to 'orange/yellow' to closely match the original PCB color of WYSE ASCII
- Added Split Backspace option for Hotswap PCB
- Hotswap PCB color will be changed to 'green'

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Bokehhbob on Tue, 30 July 2024, 11:02:48

MVP!

Can’t wait to see content on this board.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: lampmk on Tue, 30 July 2024, 16:37:18

Great work Frank!

Had the pleasure of trying this out the last time I was in Cali. Awesome board and I hope this makes it to GB!

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: kev_kbd on Tue, 30 July 2024, 19:11:28

time to learn how to use a numpad. amazing work frank!! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: gasp on Tue, 30 July 2024, 21:18:09

looking great! loving the commitment to plateless.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Bahm78 on Tue, 30 July 2024, 23:00:13

fantastic design!! :)

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: VoodooBear on Wed, 31 July 2024, 21:21:01

Numpad gud, plateless gud. Can't wait for this chonker.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Cringelord on Thu, 01 August 2024, 02:41:46

Layouts very hot, price very hot, simple very hot. You would probably get a higher buy in from hotswap but plateless top mount is oh so hot.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: jpro on Thu, 01 August 2024, 10:56:50

Wow, this looks great. Definitely interested. GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Sun, 04 August 2024, 17:18:24

IC UPDATE

Uploaded 2 typing test video in "Other Media"

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: ToFuMaNiA on Sun, 04 August 2024, 19:02:55

Looks like a good keeb to me GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: DaaDaa on Sun, 04 August 2024, 20:37:16

So numpad of left is a no go? Have some decency

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Sun, 04 August 2024, 23:19:10

Quote from: DaaDaa on Sun, 04 August 2024, 20:37:16

So numpad of left is a no go? Have some decency

Sorry about that.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: bluranerd on Sun, 04 August 2024, 23:25:23

GLWIC! I'm not in the market for a board like this personally, but after seeing it in person at the mini keeblife, I can attest to this looking like a solid pickup for numpad enjoyers :)

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: ThatGeologist25 on Sun, 11 August 2024, 10:21:57

A 65% + numpad which is a format im actualy super keen on as i don't find myself using the f row or num row of full size formats. It had a clean and simple retro aesthetic which im really digging. the only thing extra i could want is an option for southpaw or the ability to flip to southpaw. But this looks amazing im in sign me up for a beige out of the Aus vendor whoever that ends up being.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Jimmy T on Mon, 12 August 2024, 23:46:01

Beautiful board and project. GLWIC and sale :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Tue, 20 August 2024, 02:34:20

A new typing test video is posted which showcases hotswap pcb build with alu plate.

Renders are uploaded.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: NHandKeebs on Tue, 20 August 2024, 20:48:20

Awesome! Great aesthetic and layout. Raw aluminum version would be 👌

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: codecoffeecode on Wed, 21 August 2024, 01:22:40

Really nice work Frank! GLWIC!

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: Keebzncables on Thu, 22 August 2024, 21:40:27

love the design

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: ylothar on Sat, 24 August 2024, 10:42:14

I'm not a fan of numpads but I have to say that this board convinced me, really a great job. GLWIC!!!

Only note: I'm not too sure about the engraving on the wrist rest: it seems uncomfortable to me.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: enomooshiki on Mon, 26 August 2024, 03:26:19

Update August 26th, 2024
- Found out that orange pcb will cost significantly more. Solder PCB will be yellow
- Prototype v3 units have been ordered. These two units, along with the v2 unit will be sent out to some content creators
- Prototype v3 PCBs have been ordered. This round of PCBs will reflect the latest changes, including the new color for solder and hotswap PCBs.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount
Post by: ObsessiveCaps on Mon, 26 August 2024, 15:49:20

Definitely in for at least one of these. I'm a 65% enjoyer and love the compactness of the 2u numpad as well for when I need that near full-size experience.

Design language and inspiration is beautiful as well. A fitting tribute with a lot of careful consideration put into the project. Can't wait for the GB.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB Info Updated
Post by: enomooshiki on Fri, 27 December 2024, 03:23:27

GB info set and updated

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB Info Updated
Post by: codecoffeecode on Fri, 27 December 2024, 10:48:18

Quote

- GB period from January 13th, 2025 until March 1st, 2025

Let's ****ing go.

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB Info Updated
Post by: bigmaxnonions on Fri, 10 January 2025, 09:24:58

Excited for this!

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB Info Updated
Post by: tankLancer on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:44:25

both the layout and the side profile is amazing!

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB Info Updated
Post by: enomooshiki on Sat, 11 January 2025, 14:07:54

couple more YouTube videos added

typing test video by TimKeyLess and a review video by Keybored

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB LIVE
Post by: ArchivedProjects on Sat, 25 January 2025, 15:03:15

Looks good, GL with GB ❤️

Title: Re: [IC] ASCII-F : 65TK || Plateless Top Mount - GB LIVE
Post by: treypop on Mon, 27 January 2025, 07:37:16

I love that it can use BAE