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Title: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: 性之 on Fri, 16 August 2024, 03:09:30
篆Seal
Designed by XINGZHI x QIN / Co-produced by VERTEX

(https://i.imgur.com/bHsqrqg.jpeg)

Hello world, I’m Xingzhi, a fresh rookie in keyboard design from China. This full size newbee is brought to you by me and my friend Qin. It’s produced by the Vertex team of ‘Angle’ you might be familiar with.

Qin and I are both fanatic collectors of vintage keyboards, such as IBM, Cherry. In the classic world, full size type is always the main stream. Cherry G80-3108 with a key on top right, was such an iconic design, followed by Apple and WYSE with products sharing the same idea. That’s where my debut show came from.


(https://i.imgur.com/TGfEnI0.jpeg)

Furthermore, what often haunts my heart is that how to attach any Chinese aesthics into a keyboard design, something tranditional and reserved. If Calligraphy would be an introduction to ancient art, then instantly the Seal Script from the very first QIN dynasty occurred to my mind. This is why our first design featuring a signature badge is called ‘Seal’. The seal badge inspires you to customize your name or favourite chinese character, just like an artist’s engraving in his masterpiece. 

(https://i.imgur.com/GHOaRMw.jpeg)

Let’s have a look of its details as below.

Overlook:

437.35 x 135.72 x 36.49mm;
Full size/100%;


Yes it’s a long baby as what a keyboard looks like when each one of us initially touches in work space. Controversially, in customized keyboard hobby, not so many authors prefer full size option.

(https://i.imgur.com/yFxctqU.jpeg)

Structure:

Why top mount?

Stable and reliable is all that it counts. Actually, it constantly domains the hobby from the very beginning of the customized keyboard history. It’s so sensitive to all variables including plate, PCB, switch and keycap. It acts, responses or even magnifies all these subtle changes more directly. In another word, you shall get more genuine feel of typing.

Of cause, it can also tell the real quality of the keyboard itself. Personally, instead of saying it’s a conservative structure, I would call it purity.


(https://i.imgur.com/ngcXSPV.jpeg)

Attributes to one of Vertex’s ongoing project’s solution, we insert a PC cushion in-between the screw and case to absorb quiver when typing. You may wonder its necessity. Interestingly, Lolo(another funny pal) accidentally discover some tiny differences when switching PCB and plate of MAJA from PC case into aluminium case in which way he felt slightly better in PC surrounding. So in order to restore that little improvement, we installed this little PC experiment to optimize bounds and sounds.

(https://i.imgur.com/7egNE4A.jpeg)

As a result, it worked perfectly well. 

Next, like others do, we split the PCB & plate into main and num which is quite normal to see nowadays. And you may want to try with two kinds of switches since they can be allocated from separated area.


Weight:≈3.5-3.7kg (Fully built)

For a full size keyboard, its weight might not be heavy enough especially comparing with Glare. (Guessing Simon might not want to kiss it) But regarding to gym needs, it works indeed.

Front height: 9°

(https://i.imgur.com/KuMDmkR.jpeg)

After three rounds of sampling, I didn’t lower its front height maximally. Because this final profile came with a better consolidation of look and feel.

Case Material:

Aluminium anodized

Silver

(https://i.imgur.com/xdCkjj4.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MAg7Fma.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/l6sfa2w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZS8YRT6.jpg)

Black

(https://i.imgur.com/ppZeede.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DvRgvbe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GaimM4v.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L0Gfwb2.jpg)

Red

(https://i.imgur.com/TpNpnxH.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vagviHZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rPm4EB1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NgZVQbL.jpg)

Very Peri

(https://i.imgur.com/3zeWYdR.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fG3wpvD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8oRqaQU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kZx6BwA.jpg)

Brown

(https://i.imgur.com/kawrXnf.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2tJDQUK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DqnY0MZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2qhRTWu.jpg)

Blue

(https://i.imgur.com/aR8ugWF.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o6BCAsG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GAYHukS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sw2MfFV.jpg)

E-coated

Cold Gray

(https://i.imgur.com/iXUFRRF.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wDcHYOS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XD4k2Os.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/93iTcPz.jpg)

Pink

(https://i.imgur.com/b5IEe0a.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SJZvkJH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7WSb8PQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mL6elqY.jpg)

Weight Material:

Brass AF

(https://i.imgur.com/sTEhdff.jpeg)

Copper AF

(https://i.imgur.com/j0BYRbt.jpeg)

Brass Patina

(https://i.imgur.com/3Lbj17M.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g94TnSi.jpeg)

PVD SS milled

(https://i.imgur.com/njTJHVJ.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZirrB4T.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1BRB82b.jpeg)

Plate:

Aluminum

(https://i.imgur.com/456uOtm.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DJhLXTd.jpeg)

FR4

(https://i.imgur.com/s6xGyjs.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xvg9KRz.jpeg)

PC

(https://i.imgur.com/GRmY9xP.jpeg)

Support:

ANSI / ISO, Soldering / Hotswap, PCB based on QMK, supporting VIA3.0&VIAL

(https://i.imgur.com/cGa69TX.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SkbjUh5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Udzlksl.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kbQx9Il.jpg)

Set including:

Aluminium case up & bottom x 1
Brass badge x 2
Aluminum badge(inner) x 1
Carry pack x 1
Plate x 1
PCB & cable x 1
PC cushion x 10
Daughter board and JST x 1
Rubber feet x 1

One more thing:

Seal and its PCB supports ALPS, but we couldn’t be able to provide compatible plate during GB. We’ll open-source the ALPS plate file later.

True love of keyboard drives us this far. Hope you’ll like this product.

Thanks for reading this much. :)


How to follow news of the Seal:

For now, Clickclack is the confirmed vendor in NA, and we will continue to update other vendors in other regions.

(https://i.imgur.com/UYGTZaS.png) (https://discord.com/invite/6awCq9NcwM)

(The method of sale has not been confirmed yet, and we're willing to make a in-stock sell)


(https://i.imgur.com/0iECnKB.jpeg)
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Fri, 16 August 2024, 03:36:25
Always happy to see more full size boards on here

GLWIC

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Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Manukbs_ on Fri, 16 August 2024, 03:50:03
Peak
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Adelscott on Fri, 16 August 2024, 03:51:47
hotswap PCB with ANSI+ISO support, that's a nice feature!
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: busytimmy on Fri, 16 August 2024, 03:51:59
Purity indeed. Hooray for FS boards  :p
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 16 August 2024, 04:01:21
what the hobby needs rn. any price estimates?
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: 性之 on Fri, 16 August 2024, 04:47:10
what the hobby needs rn. any price estimates?

we're gonna try to achieve the close price as China GB ($400-$460), but doesn't include pp+shipping
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: white_rabbit on Fri, 16 August 2024, 07:39:10
You have my interest
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: marcowhatever on Fri, 16 August 2024, 08:14:32
YEAH BABY, YEAH
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: PerpetualCatLady on Fri, 16 August 2024, 08:29:02
YES PLEASE, that purple looks so good.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: mongoose27 on Fri, 16 August 2024, 12:30:28
Nice to see built-in ALPS support with PCB and  :thumb: on ALPS plate file release.  I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Kaptain Mike on Fri, 16 August 2024, 13:24:10
Very excited to see more of this
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Fri, 16 August 2024, 13:59:36
Very interested in a brown unit. I know this won’t change but would have loved to see the USB port above the tkl pad and not centered but still not a deterrent for me. Stoked!
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: mozaic on Fri, 16 August 2024, 14:28:31
This looks so nice. Also glad to see more options for full size custom keyboards. GLWIC!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Rob27shred on Fri, 16 August 2024, 17:07:08
Oh hell yes! I've been wanting to get a full sized custom in my collection for some time now, but nothing really caught my eye other than the Bina until this! Love the design (would've loved to see a Cherry lip on it though) & will be keeping an eye on this one!
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Cringelord on Fri, 16 August 2024, 19:50:25
This is really nice! With that price though... subjectively Pangea from Bowl is a more compelling purchase. That being said, I love the bronze alu plate and the brown color way.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Necrolegion on Sat, 17 August 2024, 12:18:34
Please consider a southpaw version too!
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Chorple on Mon, 19 August 2024, 19:35:04
Looking forward to getting my hands on a brown unit! :p
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: niten on Tue, 20 August 2024, 00:00:00
Excited to see a full-size project. I will be following the updates.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: FlashBombGod on Tue, 20 August 2024, 02:16:38
This keyboard looks great! Are there any plans to offer a Southpaw variant, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Keebzncables on Tue, 20 August 2024, 02:22:11
make full size great again
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Apachez on Tue, 20 August 2024, 06:32:25
Looks awesome! Always a fan of seeing full size boards
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Bubbleprick on Tue, 20 August 2024, 18:47:38
This thing is sharp. Love the brown unit.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: n1sm0__ on Wed, 21 August 2024, 10:55:39
The black with the green patina'd copper is just 💚💚💚. Prolly too late to recommend but a dark green color way would be absolutely banger with that weight. Regardless, I'm on board simply for the fact that it's a fullsize and they hardly get any love
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: An Angry Swan on Wed, 21 August 2024, 13:32:00
I don't think a full size is for me (unless you end up running a southpaw variant) but I like the reserved styling coupled with the more exotic looking weights.

Also appreciate that you had the restraint not to slap a big old engraving on the real estate next to the led indicators. Hope that stays.

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: 性之 on Fri, 23 August 2024, 09:26:52
Please consider a southpaw version too!

not yet
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: clay on Mon, 26 August 2024, 08:29:15
Hopefully foamless and 1.6mm PCB
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: 51p50x on Tue, 01 October 2024, 17:19:38
nice board, please consider a red alu plate.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: s4r9am on Tue, 08 October 2024, 09:37:19
This is already really amazing with ISO and split options. Any chance for knob support?
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: Mr.RotKiv on Tue, 05 November 2024, 01:27:07
Any news on international sale..?
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: hwalker84 on Thu, 07 November 2024, 15:02:33
I like what I see as a lover of full-size.
Title: Re: [IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
Post by: fuhaha01 on Wed, 26 February 2025, 07:35:29
I missed the previous GB. Because the GB time was too short, and there was not much information about this keyboard. Is it possible to open more GB times in the future, or extras slots? I really like this keyboard, but when I found out about it, the GB registration time was over.  :-[ :-[ :-[