IC Form link not working.Thanks for the heads up. Form link has been fixed (hopefully).
This set is FIRE 🔥 goddamn ima be broke buying up all the extra kits lol. Love the inclusion of media keys and two sets of novelties is fantastic imo. Any chance of sub-legend alpha keys? IC form isn’t working otherwise I’d put that there haha.Thanks for the lovely words.
IC Form link not working.Thanks for the heads up. Form link has been fixed (hopefully).
IC Form link not working.Thanks for the heads up. Form link has been fixed (hopefully).This set is FIRE 🔥 goddamn ima be broke buying up all the extra kits lol. Love the inclusion of media keys and two sets of novelties is fantastic imo. Any chance of sub-legend alpha keys? IC form isn’t working otherwise I’d put that there haha.Thanks for the lovely words.
In terms of sub-legend alpha keys, I have already kinda covered Japanese sublegends in the IC for GMK Kin to Kuro (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123620.0;topicseen). The intention is that the Shogun novelties from Kin to Kuro could still be used with either set readily. One idea that your comment has prompted me to seriously consider is a Katakana sublegends alpha kit.
I have considered other sub-legends during the development, but wasn't super confident of it meeting MOQ.
Like others, I'm a bit tentative to post these concepts/novelties on this forum too early due to the frequent cloning of keycap sets and deskmats that has happened to fellow designers and myself. But I've just updated the feedback form with a question about these other ideas.
I can say that I was thinking of doing Cangjie sublegends with a Dragon novelty kit (similar novelties to DCD lunar new year's dragons), which you can preview in the old render concept picture attached (albeit with icon legends).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vwfcb8l.jpeg)
The novelty kit is called 'Long Wang' (Dragon King in Chinese). I was also considering another novelty kit with the Monkey King as well (I swear I'm not a bandwagon hopping on the recent game's popularity - I do have concept renders and novelties from 2.5 year ago).
If there's interest in this, I'm happy to also offer it too, but I do want to be try and be realistic about how viable it is to offer 4 novelty kit options (6 if you include Kin to Kuro).
Lovely set!Thanks! Great catch, will change those legends on the base kit, and for the windowed keys in the add-on kit.
Could the “Scroll↲Lock” and “Num↲Lock” legends be changed to single-line “Scroll”, “Num”?
So... which one came first, this or GMK Gold on Black?- "GMK Gold on Black" does not exist as far as I'm aware (from searching Google/Geekhack/matrixzj github)
This is amazing. Will be following, also IC Form link is still not working as of 8:10pm EST.Thanks <3. Cheers for update. Hopefully the form is now working. I think it's because I was using the shorten URL link generator.
GMK Midas is the same as this? No IC post for that yet. Love the look of this set though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-QGXE2sOoL/?igsh=MTB5eHJvdW5maDduZQ==
GMK Midas is the same as this? No IC post for that yet. Love the look of this set though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-QGXE2sOoL/?igsh=MTB5eHJvdW5maDduZQ==
Not really, from the looks of Midas it's gonna be a dual color set (white alphas, black mods, gold legends) whereas this will be mono colored set (black alphas & mods with gold legends & accent keys). Sure they're similar, but if Monochrome, Wob, & BoW can all coexist I don't see why these two sets can't.
Finally some media keysYes, I'm really hoping the Media kit gets made. Shout out to lukelex who posted the IC for gmk media keys being cool with me proposing something similar to his idea. I'm thinking of adding an additional 1u icon on R4 so it can be used on boards with a single XT column as well, but not super sure what icon to place there. Currently I'm thinking of music note (open playlist/media player) as that seems a bit more useful than a 'stop' or 'loop' etc.
**** yeah to this.Thanks. Yeah, it's awesome that there's a better way to emulate the gold nowadays. Casino felt like a great match to the theme, and yeah I'm contemplating switching to ISO enter for it haha.
I had thought about running a black and gold set back in 2019 but getting the gold right never seemed possible. So im payched gmk is offering metallic and you did this.
Also really enjoy the casino novelties
Would've loved it even more if it were metalmmm yes I'm aware that metal keycaps are a thing and would fit well here, but I much prefer to use plastic keycaps for now. I still have reservations about the sound/price/feel of full metal keycaps. Perhaps something to consider in the future.
Prior to this IC, I wasn't aware that Manu had been cooking something similar that he titled as Midas, nor was he aware of my project (it was only hinted in my discord, and I wasn't following his socials). It's unfortunate but not surprising that we independently came up with the same/similar colour combination at the same time following GMK revealing its new materials. It appears that we both asked and received same samples from the manufacturer months ago too. I just happened to have posted here earlier than he did. We've since had a discussion and Manu's decided graciously decided to pivot and step away from pushing forward his proposal under GMK.GMK Midas is the same as this? No IC post for that yet. Love the look of this set though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-QGXE2sOoL/?igsh=MTB5eHJvdW5maDduZQ==
Not really, from the looks of Midas it's gonna be a dual color set (white alphas, black mods, gold legends) whereas this will be mono colored set (black alphas & mods with gold legends & accent keys). Sure they're similar, but if Monochrome, Wob, & BoW can all coexist I don't see why these two sets can't.
Not sure if you saw the second photo in that post, but there is also a monochrome version which is gold on black …
I hope both sets can co-exist 🙏
Big nov extension and spacebar kits are gonna really benefit from getting higher MOQ, and that’s kind of a catch 22, as if the child kit is big, the price is high, and it doesn’t sell terribly well.Thanks for the pointers. Yeah food for thought and will definitely need to discuss with vendors on the best approach on that extension/spacebars add-on kit. CR black spacebars already exist and since I prefer alice/split support in base, it felt a bit awkward to have a black spacebar only kit, and combining them with gold accent spacebars didn't feel like the right move.
If you get a good vendor, they may have advice about this. In the meantime, consider a detailed interest check looking at extension and spacebar kits to see interest in coverage.
It’s a neat design, and unlike other gold on black, this is actually gold, and a full IC.
Prior to this IC, I wasn't aware that Manu had been cooking something similar that he titled as Midas, nor was he aware of my project (it was only hinted in my discord, and I wasn't following his socials). It's unfortunate but not surprising that we independently came up with the same/similar colour combination at the same time following GMK revealing its new materials. It appears that we both asked and received same samples from the manufacturer months ago too. I just happened to have posted here earlier than he did. We've since had a discussion and Manu's decided graciously decided to pivot and step away from pushing forward his proposal under GMK.
Aside from that, the kitting here needs work. There is no chance all these child kits will meet MOQ and frankly, most of them are unnecessary. Stick with one novelty kit to go with the usual necessary child kits. Also, I think the novelty kits you have are way too large to be reasonably priced. Please go through and overhaul the kitting to more closely resemble sets that have succeeded recently in the current state of the hobby.
Can confirm that Boba was working on a black and gold set long before Manu posted the IG pictures.That's a fair point and very possible route I might take instead.
However, I am kind of confused by the existence of two black and gold sets fro, - seems like combining them with more child kit options is more likely to succeed in the current hobby climate - I think having two sets that are so similar would likely just divide sales between them. I'd probably be in for the Black & Gold Base, an alternate alphas from Kin to Kuro, and the Casino Royale and Kintsugi novs
Is it possible to get 2 pieces of 1.75u spacebar and 1 more of that 1.25 shift key like many 40s kits from ePBT? Very interested. Only a few GMK sets provide this demand :(There's actually 2 x 1.75u spacebars in both the add-ons kit and the gold spacebars kit specifically for 40 users.
Aside from that, the kitting here needs work. There is no chance all these child kits will meet MOQ and frankly, most of them are unnecessary. Stick with one novelty kit to go with the usual necessary child kits. Also, I think the novelty kits you have are way too large to be reasonably priced. Please go through and overhaul the kitting to more closely resemble sets that have succeeded recently in the current state of the hobby.
I do think there are some kits that are unlikely to be worth it - how many people in the hobby have keyboards that make use of media keys? - but Carbon R3 just ran with a 33 key novelty kit at $45, and other sets have been in the same ballpark. We made a lot of kitting choices with ZX around keeping costs down while doing the whole R0-R5 thing and a TON of custom molds + UV printing, and the final pricing we were able to run with with Drop was a pleasant surprise - we had initially not even thought it was worth discussing with GMK the cost for doing the sublegends based on things we had previously known to be true, particularly since there would still need to be UV front print, but it ended up being possible. It's not like GMK is a black hole where you get no feedback on things until the final quote process, so it's probably worth talking to them to see what options there are for making things happen.
i love goooooooooooooldWho doesn't? :)
NorDeUK kit should be an option to pick in the IC form?Hi thanks for pointing that out, I've added it to the IC form, alongside a JP sublegends alpha kit.
I just wrote it in the comment text box but seems strange :-)
absolutely love this set !!!Thanks for the feedback :)
i remap and use media keys religiously so if those get made it would be amazing~
not to mention both novelty kits are just up my alley ⟡
however-- the joker hat nov in the casino royale kit throws me a bit off. cant quite put my finger on it but i think it might be: if you consider the shape of a typical joker hat, it doesnt really make sense for there to be a gap between the left and right dangly parts, unless there is a fourth one (invisible to our eye due to positioning) in front of the back one but behind the front two ? or the blacked-out one is in front... but if that was the case then the left and right ones should be smooshed a little towards the center where they all meet. either way-- would recommend modifying that one design if you can! perhaps bring in the side parts so there is no gap, change the inner shape, or draw out the fourth 'front' part's silhouette ?
also, the overall design language of the casino royale kit leans into solid blocks and silhouettes-- the lined hand+sword and joker hat seem a bit out of place to me
regardless though-- love where this set is going and hope it comes to fruition !! will be following and supporting for sure ♡
absolutely love this set !!!Oh, you are so right! I completely understand your point about the Casino Royale joker hat - I think its shape needs to be refined to better fit the typical silhouette. Your suggestion to bring the sides closer together or to stretch the silhouette of the fourth “front” part makes a lot of sense. This could certainly make the design more coherent and logical.
i remap and use media keys religiously so if those get made it would be amazing~
not to mention both novelty kits are just up my alley ⟡
however-- the joker hat nov in the casino royale kit throws me a bit off. I generally like this casino aesthetic, and I even tried to find some good bonuses at https://playsafecasino.ca/nunavut-online-casinos/ (https://playsafecasino.ca/nunavut-online-casinos/) on the advice of a friend and play. I liked the visual design there. cant quite put my finger on it but i think it might be: if you consider the shape of a typical joker hat, it doesnt really make sense for there to be a gap between the left and right dangly parts, unless there is a fourth one (invisible to our eye due to positioning) in front of the back one but behind the front two ? or the blacked-out one is in front... but if that was the case then the left and right ones should be smooshed a little towards the center where they all meet. either way-- would recommend modifying that one design if you can! perhaps bring in the side parts so there is no gap, change the inner shape, or draw out the fourth 'front' part's silhouette ?
also, the overall design language of the casino royale kit leans into solid blocks and silhouettes-- the lined hand+sword and joker hat seem a bit out of place to me
regardless though-- love where this set is going and hope it comes to fruition !! will be following and supporting for sure ♡
To be fair, it seems Monorange was stuck in IC limbo for years before it was taken over anyway, so it's not like things have been made worse.
I'm open to feedback if you'd like to retain a certain key, but I've tried to keep the essence of the novelties for the most common layouts where possible.
I'm open to feedback if you'd like to retain a certain key, but I've tried to keep the essence of the novelties for the most common layouts where possible.
I do like a stepped control. That'd be a shame to cut for me anyway.
Could the Supers and Alt be moved to the base kit to enable some more space in that kit? Seems to be quite popular to sit in base at the moment.
With the novelties, I'd take note to try to keep some resemblance of an XT column set in there somehow that isn't full of duplicates so that it does some double duty.
Hi,
I'm in discussion with a potential NA vendor on adjusting the kitting and getting a quote from GMK soon. I'm committed at this stage to offer both novelty kits.
Current line-up of vendors from other regions include zFrontier (CN), Deskhero (CA), Prototypist (UK), ktechs.store (SG).
Once the lead vendor from NA is confirmed, I'll finalise other regions such as EU and OCE.
To make costs a little bit more reasonable, the following are some proposed culls to the following kits:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QQihjb7.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yMP2NVp.png)
I've placed examples of the new Joker hat in the top right corner so you can see what it would look like following a revision, however I'm considering if it's better to just cull to reduce the kit's cost.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BWesuyE.png)
I'm open to feedback if you'd like to retain a certain key, but I've tried to keep the essence of the novelties for the most common layouts where possible.
Due to the number of child kits, the media kit might not make the cut.
I'm also considering reducing the number of spacebars in the gold accent spacebars if it's a little too expensive.
At the moment, I'm aiming for a late Jan to early February group-buy date.
Has the group buy for this already started and ended? The Divinikeys site says sold out.
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