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Title: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: masje on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:29:56

(https://i.imgur.com/98w7soD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/zf9kwzT.jpeg)

Dear keyboard illuminati,
if you know where I can get good beige coats(powder/cerakote),
can you tell me?

DISCORD (https://discord.gg/HxJFHkyjbf) IC FORM (https://forms.gle/mP9J9d9oebfMp9uP6)


Inspiration
I am a fan of plateless boards.
A few months ago, I made a keyboard called the K-III (https://masjewerke.com/k-iii-1),
which was built on the same mounting method as this,
and I thought it sounded/felt nice.
I wanted to then expand that same structure to an 1800 form factor,
with vintage-inspired stylings.

Mounting & Specifications
(https://i.imgur.com/ytKHllV.png)
The mounting system utilizes 2x 3mm orings that sandwich the PCB on both sides,
with channels cut in the top and bottom case to friction fit the orings (similar to F1 mount style).

(https://i.imgur.com/oAlJfXm.png)
- 8 deg typing angle
- 2.87kgs unbuilt (alu) / 1.27kgs unbuilt (pc)
- 19.6 adjusted front height

(https://i.imgur.com/j8w8Ugw.png)
Internal channels for the orings


PCB Layout
(https://i.imgur.com/O3e8vgq.png)
Supports most things that make sense in this layout.
Will be designed by the wonderful Sleepdealer.


Sales & Pricing
- February 2025 GB (maybe???)
- 5 units black aluminum / 5 units polycarbonate small run
(fulfilling everything myself so would like to not overextend myself!)
- Aiming for $450 - $520, incl. hard case/PCB/cable
- Made by your favorite (overpriced) manufacturer


Gallery
(https://i.imgur.com/zkqzYPa.jpeg)
PC version

(https://i.imgur.com/66koUpl.jpeg)
Three indicator lights at the F13 location

(https://i.imgur.com/3krIIEP.jpeg)
Integrated cable!
I will include a JST-USBA cable in the kit,
which will be tied to the PCB "OTD style"

(https://i.imgur.com/ed1Tg72.jpeg)
Corners

(https://i.imgur.com/TGnhUVr.jpeg)
Side profile


Thanks
Thanks to steve for pushing for 6u layout  ;D  & Pontus, as always


Signature
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Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: tanghus on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:31:09
But does it come in beige?
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: HubertThemad on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:39:33
Does it come in tan!?

GLWIC, love plateless borts.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:45:07
Pretty cool. Do enjoy the idea of a G80-1800 inspired board though I'd personally shy away from integrated cable if possible. Looks nice!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: mmayhem17 on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:53:25
very cool :beigemeeting3:
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: 51p50x on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:58:10
I really like the idea, and design.

GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: SpookyGC on Thu, 09 January 2025, 12:59:26
Looks fire! Integrated cable so hot right now. :nut:
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: FatefulStranger on Thu, 09 January 2025, 13:22:41
Another banger by James  :thumb:

Best 1800 layout as well, you know I'll be there Day 1. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: quaks on Thu, 09 January 2025, 15:01:39
what a beautiful IC and board, big props
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 09 January 2025, 15:06:42
Super nice, love seeing a true 1800 custom!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: LMarci on Thu, 09 January 2025, 15:09:05
I like it, would appreciate some renders of the internals though ;D
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: xLeHoy on Thu, 09 January 2025, 15:10:10
Can't wait for it :beigeChamp:
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: i4aac on Thu, 09 January 2025, 15:32:14
rush rush
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: Meepergon on Thu, 09 January 2025, 17:12:23
yep, gonna need this one boss. lookin good.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: jd on Thu, 09 January 2025, 18:38:18
This is very cool.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: LavenderB on Fri, 10 January 2025, 02:13:13
Love the idea of an integrated cable. This isn't a board that you'd move around a lot anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: tankLancer on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:35:28
I'm curious about how tight the mounting is with O-ring friction. Excessive space for the O-rings could lead to significant PCB wobble.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: masje on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:47:41
Quote from: tankLancer on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:35:28
I'm curious about how tight the mounting is with O-ring friction. Excessive space for the O-rings could lead to significant PCB wobble.

I tested the dimensions for the mounting on the other board, and once it is assembled, the PCB doesn't move at all  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: tankLancer on Sat, 11 January 2025, 23:17:39
Quote from: masje on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:47:41
Quote from: tankLancer on Sat, 11 January 2025, 07:35:28
I'm curious about how tight the mounting is with O-ring friction. Excessive space for the O-rings could lead to significant PCB wobble.

I tested the dimensions for the mounting on the other board, and once it is assembled, the PCB doesn't move at all  :thumb:

That's excellent news! I was concerned about potential PCB wobble, and you've addressed that effectively. A secure mounting is crucial for a stable and consistent typing experience, as exemplified by the excellent mounting in GEON Works' F-series keyboards.

However, based on my personal preferences, I sometimes find that O-ring mountings can feel slightly 'dead' or lack a touch of lively feedback. I wonder if a very slight increase in vertical space, perhaps 0.15mm to 0.25mm, could potentially introduce a more pronounced bounce and a slightly more tactile feel. This is purely speculative, of course, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this potential option.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: Stringer Bell on Wed, 15 January 2025, 10:58:04
I love this and I love James. Support James.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: hhyz on Wed, 05 February 2025, 10:20:31
Hello, I am a keyboard enthusiast from China. I like your design very much. Will 818 be available for purchase in February? I hope to have it.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: Bokehhbob on Thu, 06 February 2025, 14:11:33
This is purty.

PC one is really nice!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 06 February 2025, 18:37:17
watching. joined discord.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: vodanhdaisu on Wed, 12 February 2025, 01:42:14
Im very interested in this project. This keyboard definitely will be 1 of in my 1800 collection
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Wed, 19 February 2025, 18:11:41
while i get the integrated cable would fit the vibe very well, i just can't help but feel like a traditional usb-c is so much more practical.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: Seoeunmonster on Thu, 20 February 2025, 09:57:48
Looks really amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: tankLancer on Sun, 23 February 2025, 07:47:34
This mounting system also impressed me.
GLWIC.
Title: Re: [IC] 818 - A Plateless Keyboard.
Post by: logaboga on Sun, 02 March 2025, 11:11:18
Love the design but ditto on what Diego said; it'd be a bit inconvenient to have to use an integrated cable.