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Title: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:13:52

GMK CYL Vintage Keys

Hello old timers,
This is an interest check for add-on kits featuring some cool keycaps from vintage keyboards.
My goal is to bring these vintage keycaps to those who want to add a bit of personality to their board.
You can put them on Hineybeige, Classic Beige, Dolch R5, WOB, and etc. I hope you guys like it!

Details
Material: ABS
Legends: Doubleshot & UV print
Colors: CC, CR, CP, L9, N7, N9, P3, U9, V1, V2 & WS1

Molds/Moulds
Just like GMK Beige Addon & Extension, another goal of mine for this project is to help develop new
keycap tooling for the community. All new molds or tooling made through this project will be open for
the community to use. If you'd like to include them in your keyset, feel free. No need to DM me for permission.

Vendors
US: CannonKeys (http://cannonkeys.com/)
CA: Mino Key (https://minokeys.com/)
EU: KEYGEM (https://keygem.com/)
UK: Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/)
SG: PantheonKeys (http://pantheonkeys.com/)
KR: GEONWORKS (http://geon.works/)
CN: KBDfans (https://kbdfans.com/)
AU: Keebz N Cables (https://www.keebzncables.com/)

Kits
(https://i.postimg.cc/tpMMZbJT/vintage-bottom-kit.png)
Yay, stepped keys :cool:

(https://i.postimg.cc/7HBnnfC0/snack-pack-kit.png)
Our beloved website and emotion on keycaps.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JRv80rJv/dimple-kit.png)
Smile :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/3352STJd/beige-2000s-with-r5-kit.png)
I mean just look at this beauty.

More

(https://imgur.com/tWaBsDX.jpg)
Credit: Photekq (https://www.keebtalk.com/t/cherry-g80-2000-hau/19330?page=2)

(https://imgur.com/DJLgP33.jpg)
Credit: VallahExperte (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1dnk3xe/cherry_g802100_collection)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ph0DJjD2/wob-2000s-with-r5-kit.png)
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

Renders
(https://i.postimg.cc/zqPS2Lxn/NCR-Whole-Sep2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mTh79LTt/NCR-Right-Corner-Sep2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/X4sw-XG6N/NCR-Left-Corner-Sep2.jpg)
Imaginary Nixdorf G80-0528 inspired

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mz0mnQ0w/21xx-Black-Top-Down.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1snW3XYR/21xx-Black-Angle.jpg)
21xx by Pontus

(https://i.postimg.cc/t9bhG4KM/w1-at-Behind.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GbjvL1rh/w1-at-Corner.jpg)
W1-AT by Geon

(https://i.postimg.cc/gYYq824Z/0413-Top-Down.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5xn53Wkk/0413-Side.jpg)
Class 0413 by MM Studio

Socials
Discord (https://discord.gg/bkDUqYUNNE)
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/mcthreetimes/)

Thanks
Mario from GMK for answering my questions.
Pontus for cool renders.
You for reading. :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:19:00

gigabased. in for all kits.
also consider adding full R5 capslocks in the vintage bottom kit if it doesn’t blow prices up too much

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: incrediblejr on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:31:14

You had me at R3 stepped control, in for all the kits!

What is the purpose of R1 Esc in 2000's kitting ? Don't we already have that in whatever base we are combining ?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Shintaro on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:40:34

This is what I need, love it.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: tanghus on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:47:06

Well, yes. I am indeed interested in acquiring more beige.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: masje on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:51:51

I came

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: whirlwind on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:52:55

Yes, please!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy on Tue, 06 May 2025, 02:08:55

I need all of this right now

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Jampot_298 on Tue, 06 May 2025, 02:31:30

That is gangster...

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Alchemist Keyboards on Tue, 06 May 2025, 02:58:41

I'm in. For all of it  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: i4aac on Tue, 06 May 2025, 03:09:52

hawt

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Pontus on Tue, 06 May 2025, 03:13:09

Exciting stuff! Would definitely be in for a few kits  :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Tue, 06 May 2025, 04:04:36

All in for everything and just in time before 21xx is running

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: VallahExperte on Tue, 06 May 2025, 04:05:51

WTB! Unfortunately GMK's UV Print is really ass quality

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: The Pig on Tue, 06 May 2025, 04:31:35

Great that the 2000 kit has the old style logo in a single colour for the windowed keys, not been done before at gmk.  :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Guuuf on Tue, 06 May 2025, 05:57:03

Absolutely loving the retro look of GMK CYL Vintage Keys, I’m all in! I’d seriously want to pick up every single kit.
Huge shoutout to mcmcmc for the effort and passion you're putting into this project and the community.

One small thing I personally miss is a System key, or even better, a Super key. I totally get that it doesn’t quite fit the retro aesthetic, but I’d still be super happy if it ended up being included somehow.

Either way, I’m definitely buying the kits!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Mikhail on Tue, 06 May 2025, 06:44:34

Finally
But whats the problem to make 8U stabbed 10U spacebar (and even old scool stabed BAEs)
Your render is 1.75U :p
If you planned bottom row's stepped caps lock, so AT-style numpad +-* also needed
Where is NCR/Goupil color? ;D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: VXQN on Tue, 06 May 2025, 07:03:46

Whilst I'd love to see F1–F30 kit à la the G80-0528 (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/17tnrpb/cherry_g800528_nixdorf/), This is very, very nice and I will be purchasing the 2000's kit.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: TjarleN on Tue, 06 May 2025, 07:54:48

I need this in my life, in for all.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: HubertThemad on Tue, 06 May 2025, 08:23:16

This is so cool! GLWIC, also in for all kits

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mmayhem17 on Tue, 06 May 2025, 08:53:39

What does this even doing in IC, just run already, so hot I might grab a few of those.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 06 May 2025, 10:58:03

Quote from: mr_foggy on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:19:00

gigabased. in for all kits.
also consider adding full R5 capslocks in the vintage bottom kit if it doesn’t blow prices up too much

full R5? like non-stepped?

Quote from: Guuuf on Tue, 06 May 2025, 05:57:03

Absolutely loving the retro look of GMK CYL Vintage Keys, I’m all in! I’d seriously want to pick up every single kit.
Huge shoutout to mcmcmc for the effort and passion you're putting into this project and the community.

One small thing I personally miss is a System key, or even better, a Super key. I totally get that it doesn’t quite fit the retro aesthetic, but I’d still be super happy if it ended up being included somehow.

Either way, I’m definitely buying the kits!

super keys are very easy to find like in Hineybeige or Retro Zhuyin. i don't think it's worth including it. :)

Quote from: incrediblejr on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:31:14

You had me at R3 stepped control, in for all the kits!

What is the purpose of R1 Esc in 2000's kitting ? Don't we already have that in whatever base we are combining ?

removed now. thanks!

Quote from: Mikhail on Tue, 06 May 2025, 06:44:34

Finally
But whats the problem to make 8U stabbed 10U spacebar (and even old scool stabed BAEs)
Your render is 1.75U :p
If you planned bottom row's stepped caps lock, so AT-style numpad +-* also needed
Where is NCR/Goupil color? ;D

there aren't that many NCR colored set out there (especially when compared to beige, wob, dolch) unfortunately so i wont be adding it. :thumb:
also fixed render now. thanks!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 06 May 2025, 11:05:09

thanks everyone who replied and like the project. i can't quote everyone, but i appreciate all your support. <3

on another note,
vintage bottom --> vintage banana : because im hungry :p
removed prtsc, scroll, break & replaced with R2 insert home and R3 del end to replicate the OG

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: redhound on Tue, 06 May 2025, 11:15:38

Definitly also in for all the kits! Thanks for setting this up!  :thumb:  Very much hope this will go into GB.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 06 May 2025, 11:37:34

You’ve got the stock colors listed nicely. I think v1 red has less matching sets than RO2 (metaverse demonic lunar beta essentials red honey). Could be RO2 instead?

Thanks for making neat stuff

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Meepergon on Tue, 06 May 2025, 11:56:18

need need need need need need need please god

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 May 2025, 12:37:37

Love these - would probably be in for each

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: kennnyshiwa on Tue, 06 May 2025, 13:37:08

Gonna make me build more boards to support 10u, and those stepped caps look great!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: CoolPenguin1 on Tue, 06 May 2025, 13:43:57

gimme

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Guuuf on Tue, 06 May 2025, 14:03:57

Quote from: mcmcmc on Tue, 06 May 2025, 10:58:03

super keys are very easy to find like in Hineybeige or Retro Zhuyin. i don't think it's worth including it. :)

Fair point on the 1.5u Super keys, I’ve already got a few myself. But a stepped Super to match the stepped Alt/Ctrl in the kit? That would totally seal the deal for me. Would love to see it, but I’m in either way!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: modulor on Tue, 06 May 2025, 15:14:27

Dream kitting right here, in for all <3

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mongoose27 on Tue, 06 May 2025, 16:44:10

These are great, count me in.  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 06 May 2025, 18:49:51

If this runs count me in for one of each kit! Love this ideal & would really love some GMK 10u spacebars. The DCS ones I have sound off when used with GMK IMHO.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Wed, 07 May 2025, 07:00:53

Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 06 May 2025, 11:37:34

You’ve got the stock colors listed nicely. I think v1 red has less matching sets than RO2 (metaverse demonic lunar beta essentials red honey). Could be RO2 instead?

Thanks for making neat stuff

there are two red used for this - P3 & V1. P3 is used in snack pack, so it matches dolch, red alert, wob red cyrillic, handerbeit, etc. i aim for the more popular classic sets. V1 is used in 2000's to match the OG 2000 (it has a little orange tint in pictures i found, so i think it matches p good.)

Quote from: VXQN on Tue, 06 May 2025, 07:03:46

Whilst I'd love to see F1–F30 kit à la the G80-0528 (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/17tnrpb/cherry_g800528_nixdorf/), This is very, very nice and I will be purchasing the 2000's kit.

not many people have use for it imo. unlike s row that you can put it on your f row and it won't look weird.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 07 May 2025, 10:23:32

Gotcha

V1 def more orange than RO2

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Fri, 09 May 2025, 03:22:13

in for all sets. feel free to add further support for different layouts.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: NightFox99 on Fri, 09 May 2025, 04:31:24

Need this.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 09 May 2025, 05:25:36

Quote from: mcmcmc on Tue, 06 May 2025, 10:58:03

Quote from: mr_foggy on Tue, 06 May 2025, 01:19:00

gigabased. in for all kits.
also consider adding full R5 capslocks in the vintage bottom kit if it doesn’t blow prices up too much

full R5? like non-stepped?

yep, of course in case the mold exists already and it doesn't add like $10 per kit. I think it would look perfect on classic sets like wob with non stepped bottom mods.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: ScaryJoey410831 on Fri, 09 May 2025, 16:48:12

Snack pack :p

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: NoWrinkles on Sun, 11 May 2025, 18:47:58

rush rush

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: boku on Wed, 14 May 2025, 18:22:08

Holy moly how am I barely seeing this, I'm so in. Perfect pairing for pontussy 21xx

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: The Rhymenocerus on Fri, 16 May 2025, 11:28:25

In in in

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: ppatches24 on Sun, 18 May 2025, 19:03:52

Imaginary Nixdorf G80-0528

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Def an all buy for sure

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Yushakobo on Sun, 18 May 2025, 20:18:56

Love the Snack Pack  ;D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: extrapriusplease on Mon, 19 May 2025, 11:29:05

this man cannot be stopped

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: udller on Tue, 20 May 2025, 12:47:20

pure magick :)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mul7i on Thu, 22 May 2025, 05:21:07

r0 please, i love pretending to be old!!!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 27 May 2025, 08:37:50

updates:
added couple of vendors
added alt gr to vintage banana
added dimple kit from chippy's dimple addon

thanks again for everyone feedback. there were many good suggestions, but sadly i can't add everything.
i'm aiming for Q3 gb date. however, that may change depending on a many factors.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: ivanh98 on Tue, 27 May 2025, 08:55:13

chippy's dimple addon goated. will purchase, thx.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: TjarleN on Thu, 29 May 2025, 03:56:10

Quote from: Guuuf on Tue, 06 May 2025, 14:03:57

Fair point on the 1.5u Super keys, I’ve already got a few myself. But a stepped Super to match the stepped Alt/Ctrl in the kit? That would totally seal the deal for me. Would love to see it, but I’m in either way!

I would also appreciate if stepped super keys are added. My typical bottom row is:
Hhkb ctrl
[super (win)] - [blocker] - [alt] - [space] - [angry alt] - [blocker] - [super (fn)]

But i also get that it might not be feasible since the majority uses ctrl or caps lock.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Guuuf on Fri, 30 May 2025, 15:58:37

Quote from: TjarleN on Thu, 29 May 2025, 03:56:10

Quote from: Guuuf on Tue, 06 May 2025, 14:03:57

Fair point on the 1.5u Super keys, I’ve already got a few myself. But a stepped Super to match the stepped Alt/Ctrl in the kit? That would totally seal the deal for me. Would love to see it, but I’m in either way!

I would also appreciate if stepped super keys are added. My typical bottom row is:
Hhkb ctrl
[super (win)] - [blocker] - [alt] - [space] - [angry alt] - [blocker] - [super (fn)]

But i also get that it might not be feasible since the majority uses ctrl or caps lock.

Your layout is chaotic good, respect!
I’ll keep flying the flag for stepped Super, even if the vintage gods never intended it.  ;D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Dingo_Seven on Sat, 31 May 2025, 13:07:21

Lookin good! I thneed me some stepped CTRL, nipple keys, and snacc pacc.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Thu, 05 June 2025, 08:25:51

update:
added complete list of vendors
changed skidata accented geekhack to normal colored

edit: added wob 2000s as well

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: JucheCatgirlTS on Tue, 15 July 2025, 19:06:40

absolutely based as hell

in for all kits :3

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 29 July 2025, 00:04:13

i got some news on stepped keys, but waiting for 10u. i’ll share them when i heard back.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Mon, 18 August 2025, 21:33:50

Do we have an estimated month for when this GB starts yet?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Tue, 19 August 2025, 00:46:24

Quote from: MartinThePolarBear on Mon, 18 August 2025, 21:33:50

Do we have an estimated month for when this GB starts yet?

as soon as i hear back from gmk, i will be able to give you a date. currently i got nothing.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Mikhail on Tue, 19 August 2025, 02:30:09

Jeez, the GMK… They told “we need brand new molds” but their new ansi stabbed BAEs contains old vertical stab traces and even “holes” for vertical stab on the south side of inner wall >:D >:D >:D

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: maelkesnot on Tue, 02 September 2025, 11:05:18

No plans for Dolch 2000's I presume?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Wed, 03 September 2025, 05:18:21

Quote from: maelkesnot on Tue, 02 September 2025, 11:05:18

No plans for Dolch 2000's I presume?

currently not planned.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Wed, 10 September 2025, 02:34:55

Earlier Update
Where we’re at right now
    • We need a fresh render with all the latest changes.
    • After that, we’ll send everything back to GMK for a new quote.
    • Depending on the price they give us, we might have to cut some molds/keys.

Kit changes
    • Banana kit: No more 10u. Stepped caps are now R4 and no LED.
    • 2000s kit: No R5 — those keys are now R4. S1–S12 caps will be UV top + UV front.

Current Update from CK:
    1.Banana kit – The adjustments that were shared earlier are final and will remain as they are.
    2.S keys – These will be done with UV printing, not doubleshot.
    3.R5 discussion (Banana + 2000s kits) – From CK conversion with GMK, they said that creating a new R5 mold would be extremely expensive. GMK are still using the original molds due to cost.

However, I asked if there’s a workaround: instead of a new mold, could we add R5 in the 2000s kit using UV print? This would let us offer the layout without going through the huge cost of new tooling.

The poll is up in my discord, please go vote. Thanks!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy on Wed, 10 September 2025, 03:23:56

Quote from: mcmcmc on Wed, 10 September 2025, 02:34:55

Earlier Update
Where we’re at right now
    • We need a fresh render with all the latest changes.
    • After that, we’ll send everything back to GMK for a new quote.
    • Depending on the price they give us, we might have to cut some molds/keys.

Kit changes
    • Banana kit: No more 10u. Stepped caps are now R4 and no LED.
    • 2000s kit: No R5 — those keys are now R4. S1–S12 caps will be UV top + UV front.

Current Update from CK:
    1.Banana kit  :( :( :(– The adjustments that were shared earlier are final and will remain as they are.
    2.S keys – These will be done with UV printing, not doubleshot.
    3.R5 discussion (Banana + 2000s kits) – From CK conversion with GMK, they said that creating a new R5 mold would be extremely expensive. GMK are still using the original molds due to cost.

However, I asked if there’s a workaround: instead of a new mold, could we add R5 in the 2000s kit using UV print? This would let us offer the layout without going through the huge cost of new tooling.

The poll is up in my discord, please go vote. Thanks!

noooooooooo not the 10u  :(

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: The Rhymenocerus on Thu, 11 September 2025, 13:56:49

Sad to see both the Vintage Banana 10U space and R5s go. For me, the 10U space was the primary draw of this gb, closely followed by the R5 stepped keycaps. Even so, best of luck and thanks for your work.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: meowoofun on Thu, 11 September 2025, 20:12:45

10u was worth a try, maybe one day.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: Mikhail on Thu, 11 September 2025, 23:23:33

Can we switch to keykobo for this set?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Fri, 12 September 2025, 14:48:57

Quote from: The Rhymenocerus on Thu, 11 September 2025, 13:56:49

Sad to see both the Vintage Banana 10U space and R5s go. For me, the 10U space was the primary draw of this gb, closely followed by the R5 stepped keycaps. Even so, best of luck and thanks for your work.

Unfortunate, but it has to be done :(

Quote from: meowoofun on Thu, 11 September 2025, 20:12:45

10u was worth a try, maybe one day.

:fingerscrossed

Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 11 September 2025, 23:23:33

Can we switch to keykobo for this set?

nope, my intention was to run this set with GMK. although we had to cut some stuff out, i still feel like GMK is the manu for this project.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: TjarleN on Sun, 14 September 2025, 16:16:54

It is a bummer that the stepped caps wont be r5… a lot of gmk beige gbs were specifically run with r5 and even though r4 can be picked up directly from gmks shop now I plan on using r5 on my boards and i am probably not the only one.

Might still pick up a set but most likely wont use those keys if run in r4.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
Post by: mcmcmc on Mon, 15 September 2025, 06:05:43

Quote from: TjarleN on Sun, 14 September 2025, 16:16:54

It is a bummer that the stepped caps wont be r5… a lot of gmk beige gbs were specifically run with r5 and even though r4 can be picked up directly from gmks shop now I plan on using r5 on my boards and i am probably not the only one.

Might still pick up a set but most likely wont use those keys if run in r4.

Yea i’m also one of the ppl plan on using this on r5, but it is what it is. im glad to hear that you may still support this project. <3

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 16 September 2025, 22:03:49

Any desire to get the M keys from the CYL OG kit? With the 21XX just having finished GB, I'm sure you'd get tons of orders for them since most of those sets from the last CYL OG GB are out of stock.


For reference
(https://en.zfrontier.com/cdn/shop/files/final_XTbeige_transparent.png?v=1721033681&width=1600)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: mcmcmc on Wed, 17 September 2025, 02:10:22

Quote from: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 16 September 2025, 22:03:49

Any desire to get the M keys from the CYL OG kit? With the 21XX just having finished GB, I'm sure you'd get tons of orders for them since most of those sets from the last CYL OG GB are out of stock.


For reference

Show Image

(https://en.zfrontier.com/cdn/shop/files/final_XTbeige_transparent.png?v=1721033681&width=1600)

Probably no, I think that space is already covered and Icon Beige already offers something similar.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: BossKeebs on Sun, 28 September 2025, 04:38:54

I am glad that keyboard community history is still represented today.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: Sneaky_roomba on Tue, 30 September 2025, 21:58:07

I have to be honest it's really dissappointing how much this set keeps getting pared back from the ambitions of the IC. Losing 10u, R5, windowed keys, and now UV print for all those S keys...it just doesn't have the same instant appeal.

I thougt the major appeal of this set lay in all the new molds it would unlock for future projects in the community, particularly the development of a GMK 10u mold. The bannana bar is such a neat visuaul option for designers to incorporate into their keysets and boards, but we don't see more of it because the gold-standard keycap manu can't make it anymore. CK are an experienced vendor, clearly fans of vintage stuff, and have a decent amount of financial weight to throw behind a project like this, so I assumed you all were going into this with at least some rough idea about what the cost would be for tooling and a shared understanding about why the initial reception to this was so overhwhelmingly positive.

Please forgive me if I sound totally foolish. I just led myself into thinking the real pitch with this project was that CK and GMK were looking to invest in some cool new tooling as a capital expenditure to expand what designers can make even after this particular set runs. Based on the multiple rounds of back-and-forth betwen the stakeholders here, though, it seems that they are specifically interested in having this set stand on its own commercially.

I love novelty keys and vintage kit as much as the next guy, but I figured it would be obvious to everyone at the table for this project that a set like this as originally proposed would never, ever be popular enough to justify multiple major tooling investments on its own. So, now this all feels like a bait & switch. Like, if CK needed this to be commercially viable without them eating what can only be tens of thousands in tooling cost, is this not basically months of time wasted on quotes that were bound to be overbudget?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: KOBO ISSHI on Thu, 02 October 2025, 03:57:33

That R3 stepped control is different level. Send this to GB with haste.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: mcmcmc on Sat, 11 October 2025, 05:47:26

we got da quotes!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
Post by: TjarleN on Mon, 13 October 2025, 10:14:07

Is dimple numpad-5 something to be considered?

Edit: Just saw that icon beige is supposed to run with dimple 5, so I am personally fine without it being added here :D