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Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: iMmAGa on Wed, 10 November 2010, 04:48:35
Link :
http://www.zowiegear.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=137:announcementkeyboard&catid=37:news (http://www.zowiegear.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=137:announcementkeyboard&catid=37:news)

(http://www.zowiegear.com/images/stories/pr_002.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: tonyklo on Wed, 10 November 2010, 05:13:15
ahh  u posed it before me >!_
this looks pretty damn good for those who r looking for a gaming mechanical :~
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: sixty on Wed, 10 November 2010, 05:45:48
Perfect for gamers? The layout is terrible, and at 129 EUR (almost 180 USD) it seems like a bad joke compared to whats already available.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: squarebox on Wed, 10 November 2010, 05:54:39
Same layout as 6Gv2 but using Cherry Brown instead of blacks.

PS/2 RTR sounds like a bad marketing joke...
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 06:49:43
Quote
ZOWIE RTR™ technology provides 4 levels of response-times (normal, 2x, 4x, 8x) - PS/2

The what now?
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:00:46
aye really curious about their Real Time Response "technology".

Allthough looks promising to me, I has what im looking for, brown switches, and media keys and full NKRO instead of gaming optimized like black widow.

And most important it seems I might be able to get my mechanical keyboard with danish layout earlier than expected.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:05:24
If it smells like bull****..
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:10:27
Quote from: zefrer;244886
If it smells like bull****..


If you mean bull**** like unnecessary feature I would agree with you, if you are referring to their RTR tech.

For me it looks promising in regard of the possibilty of getting it with my native layout earlier than I might have expected!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:19:54
I meant that something which presumably decreases response times on a keyboard while using PS/2 smells a lot like bull**** :)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:20:06
Quote from: squarebox;244864
Same layout as 6Gv2 but using Cherry Brown instead of blacks.

PS/2 RTR sounds like a bad marketing joke...


I'm guessing they mean you can tune the debounce performance. I think that's also what they mean by 'normal' keyboard response being 0.5s (which would be incredibly rare I'm sure.)

At first I thought RTR was about the typematic rate. Not much point being able to tune that on the fly. Games don't really use it.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:22:11
I'm wondering if the RTR has to do with the debounce rate.

Quote from: ZOWIE
With an actual response-time of only 0,2 seconds, the ZOWIE CELERITAS has the fastest response-time of any mechanical keyboard currently on the market.  Furthermore it features anti-ghosting, supporting all keys through PS/2 and 6 keys through USB. For your information, the definition of a "normal response-time" for a keyboard is 0,5 seconds.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but assuming they're using the comma like some Europeans do (as a decimal separator)...

Isn't a normal debounce rate 5ms for Cherry MX Switches? If so, isn't that much faster than 0.2s, which is 200ms?
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:28:05
off topic and I have nothing against the boy, I find the guy in yellow ... isn't he a little too young...
(http://www.zowiegear.com/images/stories/pr_004.jpg)
(http://www.zowiegear.com/images/stories/moon_key.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:30:33
Quote from: laden3;244895
the guy in yellow[/IMG]


Somebody needs to calibrate his screen. I hope it isn't me.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:31:19
Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;244894
I'm wondering if the RTR has to do with the debounce rate.



Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but assuming they're using the comma like some Europeans do (as a decimal separator)...

Isn't a normal debounce rate 5ms for Cherry MX Switches? If so, isn't that much faster than 0.2s, which is 200ms?


AFAIK the 0.5ms is a worst case scenario that would happen only very rarely.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:43:11
Quote from: Rajagra;244896
Somebody needs to calibrate his screen. I hope it isn't me.


He is yellow alright
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:43:58
does the keyboard come with a fitting set of clothes as promo?

(http://blog.charleslloydfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sagging-pants.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:45:58
Quote from: dxong;244903
He is yellow alright


racism alarm !
(http://wofflings.wofflehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/filipinos.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:49:27
Quote from: ripster;244899
Wowie Zowie!

They have black people in China?


They like to grab you like a doll when walking by and place you in a middle of dancefloor, in Japan that is...
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Wed, 10 November 2010, 08:55:55
Quote from: Senor_Cartmenez;244906
racism alarm !
Show Image
(http://wofflings.wofflehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/filipinos.jpg)


yea like to harass my own peeps, or just generally anyone lower than me or less frightening...
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Swede on Wed, 10 November 2010, 09:24:14
I do like the boom in mech keyboards, but god i hate the marketing...
And that "RTR" technology reminds me of the old turbo buttons for consoles.
Taking it that it works like this: Press x8, and you press w, and get wwwwwwww.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: vicariouscheese on Wed, 10 November 2010, 09:31:43
Quote from: ripster;244899
Wowie Zowie!

They have black people in China?

haha this made me lol

thats spawn, a legendary counter-strike player.  from/lives in sweden iirc.  now works with zowie to develop new mice, dunno if he had any say in this keyboard crap but hes their fps spokesman.

that kid in green looks pretty dumb, apparently there to sell to the pc racing game market? i didnt think such a thing existed....

dude in the middle is impressive to watch play
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Fwiffo on Wed, 10 November 2010, 09:32:14
Quote from: dxong;244903
He is yellow alright

It's green. #94d36b
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: iMav on Wed, 10 November 2010, 09:57:29
Quote from: ripster;244913
Show Image
(http://www.zowiegear.com/images/stories/spawn_key.jpg)


Man.  That guy looks like Cris Carter.  ;)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 10:02:53
Quote from: Rajagra;244896
Somebody needs to calibrate his screen. I hope it isn't me.


:embarassed: WTB: a pair of non-colorblind eyes
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Wed, 10 November 2010, 10:11:34
Quote
The primary feature of the ZOWIE CELERITAS is the newly developed ZOWIE RTR™ (Real Time Response) technology which allows the user to define the repeat-response of their presses to be 1x, 2x, 4x or 8x of the normal repeat-response for a keyboard when using the PS/2 connector. RTR™ allows gamers to gain a higher responsiveness from their keys and thereby increase the pace of movement in FPS and Racing games or possibly even increase the APM in RTS. How fast do you like it to be? We give you the possibility so you can define your most comfortable repeat-response.
So... yeah.

Says it's full nkro on the description (all keys through PS/2, 6 through USB). We'll see if they're full of **** or not.

The layout of the backslash and left **** key seem bizarre.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: tonyklo on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:55:18
pretty sure it's just gona be $120 USD / 120 EU
that's how it always is with Zowie products : ) doesn't make sense with exchange rate...but ya.. : P

zowie doesn't really bull**** : ) they really r looking to help the gamers!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: tonyklo on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:56:42
pretty sure it's just gona be $120 USD / 120 EU
that's how it always is with Zowie products : ) doesn't make sense with exchange rate...but ya.. : P

zowie doesn't really bull**** : ) they really r looking to help the gamers!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:33:45
I don't like the price being the same in USD and EUR. With some companies, also the price in GBP is the same and now that really sucks.

Quote
The primary feature of the ZOWIE CELERITAS is the newly developed ZOWIE RTR™ (Real Time Response) technology which allows the user to define the repeat-response of their presses to be 1x, 2x, 4x or 8x of the normal repeat-response for a keyboard when using the PS/2 connector. RTR™ allows gamers to gain a higher responsiveness from their keys and thereby increase the pace of movement in FPS and Racing games or possibly even increase the APM in RTS. How fast do you like it to be? We give you the possibility so you can define your most comfortable repeat-response.


If that stuff really worked like they say it does, I would want it for work.

But the price is more than Razer Blackwidow Ultimate and probably more than Steelseries 7G. Quite much to charge. Any reason to get this over the Blackwidow (and I mean then basic 99 euro one without the lights).
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:37:18
Quote from: ripster;245034
Nylon keys?

Saw the note about nylon keys, wonder how they'd feel.  Nylon bushings I make for my car are slippery when they're smooth.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: tonyklo on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:38:47
well this features the Brown ...and Blackwidow has the BLUE

so it's probably ur preference then.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: CodeChef on Wed, 10 November 2010, 17:42:13
Quote from: tonyklo;245023
pretty sure it's just gona be $120 USD / 120 EU
that's how it always is with Zowie products : ) doesn't make sense with exchange rate...but ya.. : P

zowie doesn't really bull**** : ) they really r looking to help the gamers!


Don't official spokespeople have to pay an extra fee or something? I smell spam and it ain't what's cookin' upstairs.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 10 November 2010, 17:58:39
i'm colorblind and i can see that 2 out of those 3 are yellow!
the other one being mocha. (i think that term is the most offensive)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 10 November 2010, 21:36:39
Quote from: tonyklo;245061
well this features the Brown ...and Blackwidow has the BLUE

so it's probably ur preference then.


The Zowie also claims to have NKRO, something that the Razer does not have.  However, a point in Razer's favour is they don't have dudes posing with keyboards on their site, and that's a big plus.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: 002 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 21:53:38
Quote from: laden3;244961
:embarassed: WTB: a pair of non-colorblind eyes


I was actually going to ask if that was the case.

For non-colourblind people, If you save that picture and run it through here (http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php) you'll have an idea of what Colourblind people see
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 10 November 2010, 22:03:53
Quote from: 002;245261
I was actually going to ask if that was the case.

For non-colourblind people, If you save that picture and run it through here (http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php) you'll have an idea of what Colourblind people see


I saw no change =/
(but i know i am red/green colorblind) tested out the yellow/blue (which is really rare) and that looked funky!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: 002 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 22:05:49
Quote from: Lanx;245266
I saw no change =/


I guess it's a pretty accurate representation of colour blindness then ;)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: isp on Thu, 11 November 2010, 00:09:20
The black guy is a fairly well known counterstrike player (SpawN).  The other guys are probably starcraft players or smth.  Not interested in the board.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 11 November 2010, 04:16:17
there's a black guy?!?! colorblind for the loose =/
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Thu, 11 November 2010, 07:56:02
just a bit curious when they say brown mechanical keyboard, that we can expect mx cherry brown switches?

and how about material on the keycaps, how durable is it compared the keycaps on Filco (not sure what material they use). Im being a bit sceptical about its durability when loads of sweat and salty fingers come across them...
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Bullveyr on Thu, 11 November 2010, 07:57:56
I doubt that brown stands for Nazi.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Thu, 11 November 2010, 08:25:33
Quote from: Bullveyr;245334
I doubt that brown stands for Nazi.


first of all no need to be patronizing. That you choose quote from another person makes no difference when you dont actually make a proper answer. unless you being a troll...

The reason why I am asking them to be mx cherry brown switches is that I assume you can make switches similar or with excat same specifiation but from an unknown company?

I am quite new regarding the mechanics of a keyboard but know at least the basic of it, but there is no need to rub it in...
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Bullveyr on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:05:34
calm down

yes it has browns (people have asked Zowie before)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:58:01
(http://www.motifake.com/demotivational-poster/0809/chill-pill-demotivational-poster-1221956724.jpg)

don't take stuff the wrong way, people here just like to make witty, yet sometimes slightly absurd remarks. All in good fun :)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Thu, 11 November 2010, 10:27:49
(http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sciencenotfiction/files/2010/07/i-has-frozen.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:27:01
Finally got a mail from Zowie Gear!

Zowie Celeritas will be crashing the danish market on 10. December and of course with danish layout!

So this will be my new keyboard, though not too fond with the design, the front lips is not in my flavour, and the switching light mode, from blue to red depending on gaming mode or not... would have taken Das or Filco any day if it would be in my native layout!

But it has the switches im looking and yet again the layout im looking for!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Fri, 12 November 2010, 04:34:21
Quote from: dxong;245771
would have taken Das or Filco any day if it would be in my native layout!

Sorry if you said it before but I haven't been following all of your posts ;)

You say you are from denmark and I agree, I don't know of any Das or Filcos with Danish layout. BUT there are blank layouts, I for example have a Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate EU which would be able to morph into a Danish layout if I am not mistaken. Blanks not an option?
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: dxong on Fri, 12 November 2010, 09:09:58
getting the Das Keyboard Ultimate for UK was taken into consideration but the chance of  my mind go blank with blank keys are high...

But ill give Zowie a try see if its in my liking, if not there is filco with swe/finn layout atm..
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 10:41:31
Ripster is very appreciative of the Danish's most major contribution to the world:

(http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/legos.jpg)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 10:49:42
I have a friend who is half-Danish and half-German. Born in Germany but goes to Uni in Denmark. As a result, she gets paid from both Denmark and Germany for school and room/board. She's pretty much the richest student I've met!

Freakin socialism...I blame them for the recession!
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: msiegel on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:38:38
0_o
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Wogrim on Fri, 12 November 2010, 13:58:31
Anyone notice that the one SpawN is holding has a slightly different layout?

I'd be more interested if they had the uh... normal (?) layout.  Shortening a Shift key (for backslash) to make Enter taller makes typing far too inconvenient.

I'm really confused by their response time claims, but I don't think Flash (#1 ranked Starcraft 1 progamer) has been using it for 4 months if there was something wrong with it.  But then again I'm suspicious of that claim as well.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Mon, 15 November 2010, 07:14:17
that's not a nice car
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Senor_Cartmenez on Mon, 15 November 2010, 09:30:34
you mean balls like these?

(http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_14/sp_1403_clip10.jpg?width=480)
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Cyanide on Wed, 08 December 2010, 09:32:05
i know i'm bumping an old thread, but found a video that shows us the RTR in action. this keyboard comes out on december 10th, if it gets good reviews i think i'm going to buy one. from what i heard their other products are good so i have a feeling this will be also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLOi1kSLWY
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Cyanide on Wed, 08 December 2010, 14:44:47
Ha nice pic, but yeah, I’m only going to buy one if the reviews are good. I’m not holding anything against this company till I get a reason to. People think that it’s going to be overpriced, at $160, but that is if you convert to dollars. If you look at the prices on their website in Euros, then look at a store such as Amazon, the prices are pretty much the same as they are in Euros. So if the MSRP is 120 Euros I think it will be $120. But yeah... let’s not convince ourselves of things that aren’t necessarily true, this could be the greatest keyboard of all time, or it can be complete crap, we won’t know till it actually comes out.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: Losttsol on Wed, 08 December 2010, 15:09:43
Quote from: Cyanide;259532
i know i'm bumping an old thread, but found a video that shows us the RTR in action. this keyboard comes out on december 10th, if it gets good reviews i think i'm going to buy one. from what i heard their other products are good so i have a feeling this will be also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLOi1kSLWY


You could probably get this fast a repeat by just changing a registry key, instead of buying that keyboard.  I know the regular Windows keyboard settings won't give that kind of speed though.
Title: ZOWIE announce CELERITAS keyboard officially
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Wed, 08 December 2010, 15:12:23
Quote from: Losttsol;259732
You could probably get this fast a repeat by just changing a registry key, instead of buying that keyboard.  I know the regular Windows keyboard settings won't give that kind of speed though.

Some keyboard marketing reminds me of this commercial.