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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:20:23
So I came on to join in a rant and Lo! there was no rant available today. Now taking nominations for today's rant thread.

So... what gets your goat?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:21:21
Everyone come drink the water at Welly's latest troll hole!
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Post by: Mercen_505 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:47:55
DLLs are overrated. Everyone static link and byte patch as needed. GO. GO. GO.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:49:35
Quote from: wellington1869;245003
So... what gets your goat?


I hate the fact that I can't even get a goat. They're classified as "livestock", so you can't have them in residential neighbourhoods. I think people should be able to use goats as lawnmowers.
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Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:49:40
The Jews did 9/11.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:52:41
Quote from: brian8bit;245012
The Jews did 9/11.


Hahahahahahahahaha!

Quote from: ripster;245014
Welly's posts.

Although this was better than most because it was short.


ripster's endless snarkiness... :)   I'm actually disappointed that i havent been the feature insult in a lego pictorial in a while ;)
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:54:55
Quote from: mr_a500;245011
I think people should be able to use goats as lawnmowers.


thats very green of you, a500.   Goat-lawnmowers is a movement I can get behind.
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Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:55:33
'Reality' shows. What's up with that ****, right? Right?!
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:58:38
how hard would it be for "the guv'ment" to allow us to have 'suburban livestock'? we have pets after all. same thing except we'd 'milk' these pets from time to time, or put them to work. or eat them. thats all. otherwise its the same thing.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 11:59:43
Quote from: Mercen_505;245010
DLLs are overrated. Everyone static link and byte patch as needed. GO. GO. GO.


i'm still hoping BASIC makes a comeback, since it was the only programming language i really, er, knew well.  I miss line numbers.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:03:07
Quote from: ripster;245028
Np.

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LOL! nicely done. I'll sue you for waterboarding me though.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:04:55
So we can have a pitbull, a python, a cheetah, a chimpanzee, as pets -- but we cant have a goat-lawnmower?!  

"wtf, big guv'ment?!"
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Post by: zefrer on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:05:58
"Don't 'board me bro."
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Post by: kriminal on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:31:40
Quote from: mr_a500;245011
I hate the fact that I can't even get a goat. They're classified as "livestock", so you can't have them in residential neighbourhoods. I think people should be able to use goats as lawnmowers.


i agree with this... but then again where i come from... you can keep a goat anywhere Oo
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Post by: kriminal on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:32:41
Quote from: wellington1869;245027
i'm still hoping BASIC makes a comeback, since it was the only programming language i really, er, knew well.  I miss line numbers.


i lol'ed... loudly..
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:43:07
Quote from: kriminal;245049
but then again where i come from... you can keep a goat anywhere Oo


you're a lucky man, my friend.
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Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:55:56
In my area you can have chickens in residential areas, but no roosters.  Not sure about goats.

Although, there's a tourist attraction / marketplace about 30 minutes north of me that has goats living on the roof.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:57:50
Quote from: RickyJ;245069
In my area you can have chickens in residential areas, but no roosters.


thats discrimination.
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Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 10 November 2010, 13:13:09
Fat kids.  **** the fat kids.  Eatin' all our food and ****.

(http://thishotfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fat_kid3.jpg)
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Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 10 November 2010, 13:19:37
Corporate IT projects.  One big cluster****.  Let's buy/build some ****, figure out that we can't use it, then customize the hell out of it until it's a broken piece of **** but handles mouse clicks the way we want.
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Post by: instantkamera on Wed, 10 November 2010, 13:21:44
Quote from: wellington1869;245020
thats very green of you, a500.   Goat-lawnmowers is a movement I can get behind.


Goat ****er.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 13:48:51
Quote from: itlnstln;245085
Corporate IT projects.  One big cluster****.  Let's buy/build some ****, figure out that we can't use it, then customize the hell out of it until it's a broken piece of **** but handles mouse clicks the way we want.


omg thats so true. Its so typical.  And in the end they decide to double their budget so they can "just buy a mac". 3 years after that they realize macs are far too locked down for their needs and so they halve the budget and go back to PCs.

Never once realizing if they kept the mac budget and bought truly robust pc's (which would still be less cost than macs) and used the leftover cash to pay decent money to hire real IT folks, their problems would in fact mostly get solved.

But that involves a realistic budget, and thats what managers are inherently incapable of doing.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 10 November 2010, 13:49:49
Quote from: instantkamera;245087
Goat ****er.


i was wondering when beastiality would come up ;)
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Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 10 November 2010, 17:43:55
One thing I hate is the how the cold weather gives me joint trouble in my fingers.
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Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 10 November 2010, 17:55:55
Quote from: microsoft windows;245208
One thing I hate is the how the cold weather gives me joint trouble in my fingers.


I hate how the cold weather has killed my video card. Stupid GTX280 started playing up on cold boots, giving the pink screen of death. I've got sick of waiting for it to warm up and work properly so I've had to remove it, now I'm down to a single video card. No SLI! They don't make video cards like they used to, I have an old MDA card somewhere that's still going strong. :D
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Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 10 November 2010, 21:30:08
Quote from: Rajagra;245219
I hate how the cold weather has killed my video card. Stupid GTX280 started playing up on cold boots, giving the pink screen of death. I've got sick of waiting for it to warm up and work properly so I've had to remove it, now I'm down to a single video card. No SLI! They don't make video cards like they used to, I have an old MDA card somewhere that's still going strong. :D


See this thread. (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1421792)  Lead-free solder has lead to many hardware deaths (ie: Xbox 360), quick and dirty oven reflow can help.
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Post by: Lanx on Wed, 10 November 2010, 22:06:59
i'm sucking up lots of solder for my cherry mod, hope it's lead free
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 01:19:56
I ripped my new jacket on the sidewalk today while walking past one of these scaffolding things and there was a giant nail sticking out of it, caught my jacket.  

nails in scaffolding things. really get my goat.
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Post by: zefrer on Thu, 11 November 2010, 06:01:46
Quote from: RickyJ;245259
See this thread. (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1421792)  Lead-free solder has lead to many hardware deaths (ie: Xbox 360), quick and dirty oven reflow can help.


For the hardcore option people have been running their graphics cards in their PCs without any heatsinks/cooling on it for the oven effect without the oven :D
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:24:05
Quote from: Rajagra;245219
I hate how the cold weather has killed my video card. Stupid GTX280 started playing up on cold boots, giving the pink screen of death. I've got sick of waiting for it to warm up and work properly so I've had to remove it, now I'm down to a single video card. No SLI! They don't make video cards like they used to, I have an old MDA card somewhere that's still going strong. :D


How odd. The same thing just started happening to me. On cold boot, the damn card isn't detected and I have to rip out the plug before the OS boots, then plug it back in (power button refuses to work at this point in the boot). On second boot it's detected. It's a major pain in the ass because the BIOS on this computer is the slowest I've ever seen - and now I have to always wait for it twice!

I hate PC architecture. Every time I boot, I wonder what's going to get ****ed up. It happens on every PC I've ever used. It might randomly miss the mouse on bootup - and I have to **** around finding a way to shut down and restart without mouse. It might boot with no sound card detected - or no graphics card - or no network card - or no USB. What a pile of crap!

On the Amiga, you never have these problems.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:31:54
My PC's work very reliably. I have never had these cold boot issues with them. And it's not like it's warm down here in my basement.
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Post by: zefrer on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:38:38
Quote from: mr_a500;245359
How odd. The same thing just started happening to me. On cold boot, the damn card isn't detected and I have to rip out the plug before the OS boots, then plug it back in (power button refuses to work at this point in the boot). On second boot it's detected. It's a major pain in the ass because the BIOS on this computer is the slowest I've ever seen - and now I have to always wait for it twice!


Sounds like another nvidia card where soldering has gone bad. Try baking it! :)

I'm with you on the bios, don't have to put up with it too much longer hopefully. Early next year the first UEFI motherboards should start showing up.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 09:53:54
I know I should have been ranting more, but I've been busy. I hate being busy.

OK, let's see....

I hate the fact that I can't find decent waterproof shoes. What the hell? Why aren't all shoes waterproof? We live on a water world (but not in the movie, "Waterworld", thankfully) and water always goes to the ground. Our feet are on the ground when we walk (...usually). So then, why the hell aren't all (or most) shoes waterproof?!

Then there's the fact that all modern running shoes are ugly as hell. Why are they all made out of 10 million pieces of fake leather, all glued together? Are all the designers morons?? Can't they make a half decent looking running shoe? And make it waterproof, damn it!
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 10:03:19
More ranting: (I haven't even started yet)

Why can people force their music on me and I can't do anything to stop it?! I don't see why some punk can drive by repeatedly with massive subwoofers, thumping my entire house - but I have no way to retaliate. Police do absolutely nothing. I can't block the sound, so I have to stop it at its source. If I do that, I will be the one arrested - for threatening the punk, fighting him, blowing up his car, etc.

Sound is a physical wave, so forcing a physical wave on someone against their will is a form of physical attack.

Ironically, I later found that one such "punk" that repeatedly attacked me with thumping bass actually was a young off-duty police officer. No wonder they don't care.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 10:32:12
I hate all the excessive night lighting - ugly orange sodium vapour street lamps, unnecessary giant flood lights over parking lots and buildings, house lights, garden lights, park lights. The lights are everywhere and you can't escape it.

It's impossible to see "real night" anymore. The only way to see it is to go about 100 km from the nearest town, then get off the road and hike through the woods for a few km. When I went to northern Ontario, I saw the "real night" that I remembered used to be in southern Ontario - and it blew my mind. The stars were so bright, it was like being in a weird science fiction movie. (...without flesh-eating aliens, which I hate)

If people insist on using lights, they should use lights that are the same colour as daylight - 6500K. The ugly orange glow from sodium vapour lamps makes me sick. A night walk with dingy orange lights everywhere is like walking through hell.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 12:43:19
a500, i find your rants insightful and accurate. I'm with you man. Down with orange lights! Down with flesh eating aliens! Damn the sound waves!
And you're absolutely right about 'bits of random leather glued together to make running shoes' these days. My theory is that they're basically using scrap leather leftover on the factory floor to try to save money! And the result is ugly as sin. And not waterproof!

(The only decent shoes i've ever seen are at harry's shoes on 83rd/broadway. But thats a long way from canada. Damn harry's shoes!)
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Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 11 November 2010, 12:57:24
Quote from: RickyJ;245259
See this thread. (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1421792)  Lead-free solder has lead to many hardware deaths (ie: Xbox 360), quick and dirty oven reflow can help.


Awesome, I have nothing to lose so I'll try that.

So we have RoHS to thank for this unnecessary damage to equipment - and hence to the environment!

That reminds me of another annoyance. People who forbid existing products or practices before there are working replacements for the things they want stopped.

(Not just lawmakers, this applies to stupid managers in the workplace.)
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Post by: Brian8bit on Thu, 11 November 2010, 13:12:13
I'm ****ing sick to the back teeth of people fighting over operating systems. It doesn't matter what you use, you're still a ****.
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Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 11 November 2010, 13:23:49
Foul language gets on my tits. :smile:
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Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 11 November 2010, 13:26:20
This news story

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3222753/Sick-protesters-torch-poppy.html

makes me feel like ranting, but of course every group contains people with wild opinions.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 13:31:51
Quote from: quadibloc;245475
This news story

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3222753/Sick-protesters-torch-poppy.html

makes me feel like ranting, but of course every group contains people with wild opinions.


I hope the cops are tracking them, as they should.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 11 November 2010, 13:46:18
Quote from: ripster
Why are they burning opium?


Some people ask why...I ask why not?
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:12:55
I'd rather shake a veteran's hand. If you hug him, he might just think you're gay.

I once knew a veteran of the first World War. I feel privileged - especially now that they're all gone.

One thing that he constantly ranted about was the fact that income tax was meant to be temporary, its sole purpose to fund the war. Even 75 years later, he was still ranting about it.

(...his rants were inspiration to me. Someday I hope to be ranting at his level.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Canada#History)
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:32:09
rant: here's something that gets my goat: gorgeous coworkers at work.
need i say more?
first of all, they're all out of my league, of course. second, they know it, i know it. third, they flaunt it and flirt like crazy anyway, just cuz they like the attention. And I mean come on, i'm only human. I dont need this torture all day at work while i'm trying to do my job and eek out a measly living for myself.
But it gets worse. Once you get to know them, most of them turn out to be airheads. so you dont even respect them much, but  you still want them badly. (lol). Which just makes it worse cuz if you have a conscience then you feel like a hypocrit on top of everything. Its just a giant mishmash of guilt, resentment, rejection, titillation, temptation, and desire, all rolled into one, that you have to endure 8 hours a day every day while you're trying just do your job. I mean come on.

I swear, just give me a plain looking girl with half a brian and half a conscience and I wouldnt ask for anything more.  I'm so past ogling the pretty young things. Nothing but trouble.
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Post by: Brian8bit on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:37:54
Rape them. That'll teach them to flaunt it.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:39:33
Quote from: brian8bit;245535
Rape them. That'll teach them to flaunt it.


good god. i'm not an islamist.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:50:36
Quote from: brian8bit;245535
Rape them. That'll teach them to flaunt it.


That has to be one of the most disgusting posts I've ever read on geekhack.

I scanned over some of your previous posts to see what kind of person would say such a thing. I was not impressed. I suggest you tone down your hostile bull****.

This is a nice site I don't want to see ****ed up by people like you.
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Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:53:14
Quote from: quadibloc;245475
This news story

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3222753/Sick-protesters-torch-poppy.html

makes me feel like ranting, but of course every group contains people with wild opinions.


That's horrendously disgusting.  They should be deported.
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Post by: Brian8bit on Thu, 11 November 2010, 14:58:46
Quote from: mr_a500;245556
That has to be one of the most disgusting posts I've ever read on geekhack.

I scanned over some of your previous posts to see what kind of person would say such a thing. I was not impressed. I suggest you tone down your hostile bull****.

This is a nice site I don't want to see ****ed up by people like you.


Cry me a river.
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Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 11 November 2010, 15:01:01
Quote from: ripster;245495
I live in a tough neighborhood where that stuff is not allowed.

Taken an hour ago.  Remember to hug a Vet today!
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Star power!!

Quote from: mr_a500;245510
I once knew a veteran of the first World War. I feel privileged - especially now that they're all gone.


I wish I was old enough to really talk to my great grandfather before he passed away.  He ran away from home here in Canada to go to the UK at the start of WWI, lied about his age to get into the RAF like so many others.  He was the first pilot to fly a mail plane to India after the war. :canada:
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 15:06:26
i found out recently that one of my grandfathers (grandpa's brother) served in wwii with the allies (italian invasion, he was an army doctor). Made me feel kind of proud.
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Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 11 November 2010, 15:09:17
^ You should be!
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Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 11 November 2010, 17:49:40
And here's another important news story:

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/mum-of-five-given-blasphemy-death-sentence/story-e6frfku0-1225952413642
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Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 11 November 2010, 18:18:54
Quote from: quadibloc;245649
And here's another important news story:

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/mum-of-five-given-blasphemy-death-sentence/story-e6frfku0-1225952413642


its amazing how we went within a decade from post-cold-war and internet-induced euphoria about the utopian future -- to a neo-feudal, medieval reality.  21st century, my ass. Just the beginning of the end for us all.
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Post by: Lanx on Thu, 11 November 2010, 23:14:23
But that's in pakistan pretty much one of those countries defined by a religion. If you want to practice a different religion than a religious nation and be part of the 3%... Isn't this the same ppls who got freaked out when Michelle obama shook one of these leader's hands? Time/Forbes magazine say's she's the most powerful woman in the world she could roll over on one side of the bed and say "honey press the red button nuke those customer service offshore job stealing bastards(this is what fox news said!)"
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Post by: zefrer on Fri, 12 November 2010, 07:45:49
Well if Fox news said so it must be true >.>
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:03:34
Quote from: zefrer;245872
Well if Fox news said so it must be true >.>

And what do you know about American news?
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Post by: zefrer on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:20:38
Enough to know that their "fair and balanced" moto is highly ironic. (http://www.thedaonline.com/opinion/fox-news-is-a-propaganda-network-not-a-legitimate-news-channel-1.1772842)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:27:31
Quote from: zefrer
Enough to know that their "fair and balanced" moto is highly ironic. (http://www.thedaonline.com/opinion/fox-news-is-a-propaganda-network-not-a-legitimate-news-channel-1.1772842)


If you know anything, you should know that Fox is no more balanced than any other news channel. But Fox has become the way that it is because the MAJORITY of news companies in the USA are liberally-biased, therefore American media, in and of itself, is liberally-biased. Imagine trying to fight that as a news channel, and having to become more and more biased yourself. That's why Fox News is the way it is today. It wasn't that way even 10, 15 years ago.

Speaking of biased, that's one of the most biased news articles I've ever read. It reads like a Michael Moore film. The majority of it is propaganda.
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Post by: zefrer on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:36:27
The article is a student publication - not professional writers. I just picked something published today from google randomly, just as an example.

And yeah, I know that but that's beside the point isn't it? "It's not their fault they're biased" is no excuse. They're still biased. So is the majority of everyone else.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:37:38
All I'm saying is don't make Fox news the scapegoat. Everyone else is just as bad, if not worse.
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Post by: Earth Worm Jim on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:39:00
Fat people stop saying you have a disease. Your fat because you eat too much, STOP IT!

Have a good long hard look at yourself and ask yourself why you are really fat. You have not got a disease, you've probably got a burger in your hand/face. Get a flipin' grip!
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Post by: zefrer on Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:39:50
Of course, I never claimed otherwise. Why do you think I don't watch TV anymore.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 12 November 2010, 10:04:17
Quote from: keyboardlover;245889
All I'm saying is don't make Fox news the scapegoat. Everyone else is just as bad, if not worse.


i dont think everyone else is as bad -- fox news has far more employees and journalists who openly advocate for and give contributions to the republican party than any other channel has for the democrats (poor keith tried to and got his ass fired for it).  Fox news bias is legendary and for good reason.

secondly, as zefrer said, even if others were as bad, that does not get fox news off the hook anyway.

third, so you're admitting that the fox news motto is in fact bull****.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 10:28:04
Quote from: wellington1869
i dont think everyone else is as bad -- fox news has far more employees and journalists who openly advocate for and give contributions to the republican party than any other channel has for the democrats (poor keith tried to and got his ass fired for it).  Fox news bias is legendary and for good reason.


That's total bull****. Fox is no more biased than any other major news station. Liberals just always make them the scapegoat because Fox is conservatively-biased. And IMO Keith is an ass. But he got fired because he went against his own company's policy anyway, so who cares?

Edit: Assuming you don't know what policy he violated this is it:
Any political contributions must be cleared with the president of the company.

Quote from: wellington1869

secondly, as zefrer said, even if others were as bad, that does not get fox news off the hook anyway.


Never said it did, but they're always the scapegoat. Which is stupid and lame.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:39:40
Quote from: keyboardlover;245886
But Fox has become the way that it is because the MAJORITY of news companies in the USA are liberally-biased... Imagine trying to fight that as a news channel, and having to become more and more biased yourself. That's why Fox News is the way it is today.



the other thing is, even IF fox thought the other networks were liberally biased (which is questionable btw), its interesting that they thought the most appropriate response was to be EVEN MORE biased in the other direction, as opposed to, say, reacting by trying to actually be objective.
so it goes against fox news credibility that their response to bias was to be just as, or even more, biased.  It doesnt make sense. Its like saying, everyone has a disease, so I'm going to get 5 diseases! that'll show em!

it speaks to their lack of credibility, because it implies that they *wanted* to be biased all along, and would have been, and the claim that others are biased merely provides the PRETEXT by which they can be as biased as they please now.

Its like the 'defense' argument of the islamists. They would be imperialists anyway, regardless of the situation on the ground, but by claiming they are 'resisting' something, they get to use that as a COVER for their inherent imperialism. its like that with fox and bias.

If fox was really against bias, they'd try to be objective, not even more biased.

but fox is ultimately rupert murdoch's *****, and rupert is an arch conservative and this is what he wants.
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Post by: kill will on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:46:09
why do they call it ovaltine? the mug is round, the jar is round...

they should call it roundtine....
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Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:52:46
Quote from: kill will;245961
why do they call it ovaltine? the mug is round, the jar is round...

they should call it roundtine....


lol. thats gold, jerry! gold!
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:55:20
Welly, your nonsense arguments (http://www.human-brain.org/arguments.html) are impossible to argue against.
Just please stop trolling, for the love of god.
Or the muppet gets it, see?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/3912161_e9f1848e37.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 12 November 2010, 11:56:58
Quote from: keyboardlover;245965
Welly, your nonsense arguments (http://www.human-brain.org/arguments.html) are impossible to argue against.


lol, by 'nonsense arguments' i assume you mean reason and logic... and i know you're powerless agianst those ;) (because you watch fox news and fox news alone, i think) ;)
dude, seriously, i dont care if you watch fox news, but mix in some other viewpoints now and then, seriously, and then make up your own mind, you know?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Fri, 12 November 2010, 12:23:19
Quote from: keyboardlover;245934
That's total bull****. Fox is no more biased than any other major news station. Liberals just always make them the scapegoat because Fox is conservatively-biased.
It's certainly true that Liberals don't notice liberal bias, because they imagine their own views to be objective.

However, Fox is still altogether too biased for it to be credible. So what good is that going to do? It'll just convince people that the liberals are right. A station that has a moderate conservative orientation - so it covers the things stations with liberal biases leave out - but which still tries to be accurate and objective will have a lot more credibility, and therefore more effectiveness in counteracting biased views elsewhere, than one nobody takes seriously.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Fri, 12 November 2010, 12:27:51
**** Christmas.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 12 November 2010, 13:12:07
Most news organizations contribute money to both parties.  Fox only donates to the Republicans.  They're not even trying to be fair and balanced.  Regardless of slant, at least the other networks are reporting news and not just opinions and FUD.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 13:18:28
Quote from: itlnstln
Most news organizations contribute money to both parties.  Fox only donates to the Republicans.  They're not even trying to be fair and balanced.  Regardless of slant, at least the other networks are reporting news and not just opinions and FUD.


I highly doubt your first opinion is true. I'd like to see some evidence of that. Seems like FUD to me.

Fox reports real news as well. If you actually watched it instead of trashing what you know nothing about you would know that.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:12:52
Quote from: keyboardlover;245934
fox is no more biased than any other major news station.


lol
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Post by: Lanx on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:29:14
i think we can safely say
fox=gop centric news
msnbc=dem centric news

cnn= who watches cnn anymore lol

but it's true what they say, fox=more hot looking anchor women(sorry ladies i don't know what men are good looking you'll have to put in your 2 cents for that)
i think that's why fox also draws in more ratings than TWO other news networks combined, don't agree here's comparison links
fox
http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/foxnews.php
nbc
http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/msnbc.php

i used to watch news especially lots of cnbc, but then after a while it all just made me feel regurgiative.

but if you want to learn spanish, i think univision is giving these other networks a run for pretty!
http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/misc_univision_f.php

go google
Ines Sainz
she was in the news recently for locker room hijinks.
(but women sports anchors are a whole nother story, i mean really? i'm not saying women don't know sports, especially since i don't watch any but... come on)

BTW fox news tries to convey that it has lot's of "opinionators" vs. "news anchors" "we" the "people" just have to understand the difference. I've figured out an easy way.
a fox news anchor will say
Barak Obama
a fox news opinionator will say
Barak HUSSEIN obama

you can go make your own opinion why an opinionator would always say the full name of the president.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:34:53
I don't often watch the news. But when I do, I watch Fox.

...For the female news anchors.

(http://blogs.lasvegascitylife.com/wp-content/media/2009/11/most_interesting_man.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:39:25
Today's rant:

THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH!
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0)
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 12 November 2010, 15:34:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;246005
I highly doubt your first opinion is true. I'd like to see some evidence of that. Seems like FUD to me.

Fox reports real news as well. If you actually watched it instead of trashing what you know nothing about you would know that.

Maybe if you watched anything other than Fox News, you wouldn't spout such bull****: check it (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/17/AR2010081704338.html).  Public records are public.

Anything you say in Fox's defense from now on will be considered pure trollage and responded to accordingly.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 15:41:36
Lol, funny thing is I don't even watch it. I don't watch any news stations actually. But...where does your source prove that no Fox news employee has ever donated to anyone but a Republican??? So...who's spouting the bull****?

Well you are, buddy.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LjLCeoIqeHo/SRS3jqugNUI/AAAAAAAAAJI/i--z0mkathM/s320/barack_obama_pointing_110508.jpg)
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Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 12 November 2010, 17:10:31
Quote from: itlnstln;246077
Maybe if you watched anything other than Fox News, you wouldn't spout such bull****: check it (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/17/AR2010081704338.html).  Public records are public.

Anything you say in Fox's defense from now on will be considered pure trollage and responded to accordingly.


It appears that you know about as much about politics as a retarded kindergartener. Please read these articles I kindly link to you below:

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/msnbc-confirms-liberal-media-bias/ (http://www.aim.org/aim-column/msnbc-confirms-liberal-media-bias/)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/07/24/medias-campaign-donations-tilt-100-1-favor-democrats (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/07/24/medias-campaign-donations-tilt-100-1-favor-democrats)

These are just two examples of the liberal media bias that is rampant in America. If FOX News wants to donate to the GOP, they can go right ahead. It's very likely an effort to help balance out the campaign contributions from media.

I watch Fox News, along with CBS and ABC. I can tell you for a fact that the news reported on Fox News does not contain much of a bias. However, many people are misled by the fact that Fox hosts many conservative commentators on separate shows.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 12 November 2010, 23:49:25
problem is even the concept of objectivity is considered 'liberal' now; so any traditional journalistic eduction will be 'by definition' liberal. By fox news' definition, and so they take up the right to be as openly conservative as they like.

we see the same problem in academe. Conservatives cry and moan that studies show majority of professors are liberal. No ****! By liberal they mean professors back things like separation of state interests from academic pursuit, requiring things like evidence, introducing multiple viewpoints, secular rather than religious education -- ie, the traditional notion of objectivity - is now considered 'liberal'.

You can damn liberals for not following their own ideals, but its a little retarded to say they're liberal simply because they claim to value objectivity.

And so like I said, if one thinks the media is biased, the right response is to try to be more objective; the right response is not to become even more biased, or take that as a license to be as biased as you please. That is precisely what fox news has done.  All fox news does is damn itself every day by being exactly what it complains about others.  Imagine if it could have emulated the BBC instead. Aim higher rather than lower.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 00:08:52
today's rant: had a lousy lousy day. was playing with my nablet (netbook-tablet, an asus t91mt). Really sweet as an ereader. Its brand new, havent even put fingerprints all over its glossy cover yet.

First, one of the covers over the screws fell off, couldnt find it again.

Then my attempt at upgrading memory failed miserably, turns out only certain makes and models of dimms (regardless of specs) will work and it will be trial and error to find the right one (thanks, asus).

Then even worse: was showing it off to a friend in a diner, and I freaking lost the stylus. Left it there by accident; went back an hour later hoping to find it, but its gone. The freaking stylus - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.  

hate when i lose things, so sad, and the nablet is just one day old.  Hate to see what happens to it on day two.
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Post by: msiegel on Sat, 13 November 2010, 00:32:06
damn, welly. you really do have a screw loose this time ;)

i'm sure your natbloot will be ok, it's just adjusting to life with a dyed-in-the-wool hardware modder.

now, what will make a good replacement stylus... :)
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Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 00:38:27
Quote from: msiegel;246221

now, what will make a good replacement stylus... :)


well, if the answer isnt 'velcro' or 'duct tape', then i'll have to think about that one ;-)

(i stopped sobbing long enough to google, and asus may have a replacement - for $30. Which caused me to start sobbing again).
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Post by: mike on Sat, 13 November 2010, 04:42:36
Quote from: mr_a500;245011
I think people should be able to use goats as lawnmowers.


A former colleague from a farming background had a brother who got rid of his sheep farm but not the sheep. He rented out the sheep as lawnmowers; or in other words his sheep farm now has a negative rent.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 05:37:23
Quote from: mike;246243
A former colleague from a farming background had a brother who got rid of his sheep farm but not the sheep. He rented out the sheep as lawnmowers; or in other words his sheep farm now has a negative rent.

That's awesome. I was considering starting a business like that myself. There's also a goat business in California, called Goats 'R Us (http://www.goatsrus.com/goats.htm). (I like their retirement plan)

But this is the rant thread, so I better get ranting...

I hate the stupid concept of "save on shutdown" or "save on exit". Why isn't a settings change saved instantly? You see this on every device now. It's utterly stupid for two reasons: a) this makes exit or shutdown take way longer than it should, and b) settings are lost (or corrupted) if there is a crash before shutdown or exit. I got screwed by this twice yesterday. My browser crashed on exit, corrupting my settings. My MP3 player crashed while playing, losing settings I thought were "saved".

I also hate the stupid concept of "press & hold". You see this everywhere now, too. There used to be actual on/off switches. If you wanted it off, you flick it off - instantly. You didn't have to press and hold a button, wait, make sure it detected a "hold", not just a "press", then if it didn't work, look at the device to see why it didn't ****ing work, then try again. On every device I've ever owned that has a button for "press & hold", the button eventually becomes a "crush & hold" before failing completely.

Edit: (rant wasn't finished)
I hate how everything seems to have a "boot up" now. You turn on the TV and it isn't instantly ready - it has to "boot up" for a few seconds. During that time, it ignores any button presses. Same with the DVD, stereos & MP3 players, nearly every electronic gadget. Things used to come on instantly.

Also, devices don't instantly do what the user commands. They seem to have the option to ignore the user. On my DVD player, pressing "open" doesn't open it. First, the player decides to check the DVD. I didn't ask it to check the DVD, I just want the damn thing open! Then, half the time, it will decide to start playing the DVD. I said OPEN! When the DVD has little scratches and the picture gets corrupted, pressing "OFF" usually won't turn it off! It ignores all input and just keeps trying to play the DVD. If I want it off, I have to pull out the plug. ("Yeah, well **** you, DVD player!")
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 13 November 2010, 05:51:46
Traffic lights. The theory that they help control traffic flow is complete bollocks. All they do is stop you. Roundabouts do the job infinitely better because they are automatic / self-regulating. Until some moron adds traffic lights to them, then you get instant traffic jams.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 06:01:53
I hate digital volume controls (that have steps between volume levels that are too big). You turn it up one notch and it's too loud, but down one notch and it's too quiet. Analogue controls were way better. You could fine-tune the exact level you want.

I hate DVD movies with the voice track way too low and the music & sound effects way too loud. You turn it up so that you can hear them talk, but then the music and sound effects blast your head off.

I hate on-screen TV displays - for volume, channel (non-set-up things). Separate LED display was better because it didn't block the screen. My TV has a volume display that covers almost 1/4 the damn screen. Any adjustment and you can't see what's going on. (and that's with "display off"!)

Edit: (wasn't finished this rant, either)
When you go to buy a TV, DVD player, camera, stereo, etc. - why in the hell don't the stores have the user manuals available to view? How can you make a decision about whether you like the features of a device if you have no idea how those features work? Do they expect people to choose a device based on how fancy the case looks? Sometimes, you can play with the device and figure out some features (if they have the damn thing on), but most of the time you just have to guess and hope it will work the way you want.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mike on Sat, 13 November 2010, 06:22:37
Quote from: quadibloc;245475
This news story

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3222753/Sick-protesters-torch-poppy.html


It is interesting to see that :-

1) Just for once this isn't a complete fabrication by The Sun.

2) They still got the numbers wrong; it was 35 poppy-burners rather than 30.

3) The poppy-burners were outnumbered by the people protesting at the poppy burning.

It seems that Islamic extremism is in a pretty poor state in the UK if all they can get out at this protest is 35 people - when they're numbered by the fringe fanatics like the EDL.
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Post by: mike on Sat, 13 November 2010, 07:58:58
Quote from: microsoft windows;246106
It appears that you know about as much about politics as a retarded kindergartener.


Congratulations! Insulting others whilst coming up with nothing more than noise yourself is very amusing ...

Quote from: microsoft windows;246106

 Please read these articles I kindly link to you below:

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/msnbc-confirms-liberal-media-bias/ (http://www.aim.org/aim-column/msnbc-confirms-liberal-media-bias/)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/07/24/medias-campaign-donations-tilt-100-1-favor-democrats (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/07/24/medias-campaign-donations-tilt-100-1-favor-democrats)

These are just two examples of the liberal media bias that is rampant in America.


They're nothing of the kind. Firstly they are articles documenting potential bias in the media; not examples of it. An example would be an article in the allegedly biased press denying Stalin's crimes or something.

Secondly those articles show that journalists are biased; which has only slightly more to do with media bias than our own prejudices. Journalists "write" stories to suit the editor (and through him or her the proprietor(s)); journalists who insist their own bias is more important than the editor's bias very quickly find themselves covering flower shows in the unpopular parts of Hicksville.

This doesn't mean that US media doesn't have a liberal bias to it of course - just that looking at journalists is the wrong stone to look underneath. Look into the editors and those in power over them!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 10:28:05
paying $30 for a stupid plastic stylus. what can possibly be worse than that?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 13 November 2010, 10:32:50
Buying a Mac is definitely worse.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 13 November 2010, 13:41:11
Quote from: ripster;246279
About as amusing as listening to Ann Coulter.

At least when Ann coulter argues a point, or her point she can back it up with some good talking points, rather than just defaulting to, "well god said it so i'll just believe it" or "or it's in the bible, duh".
With this particular point, i'm in agreement, it's just like Sarah palin, running around and parading her disabled son like this quote.
"My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes." made by a down syndromed actress.

at least after that she stopped doing it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 13 November 2010, 13:54:08
i know this guy who called one of his kids joules. I was like the sci fi guy? he's like no the measure of energy, i was like wow, that's dorkier than naming a kid after a writer. He named his other kid something science like too as well.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: clickclack on Sat, 13 November 2010, 15:51:46
Quote from: mr_a500;246251
I hate digital volume controls (that have steps between volume levels that are too big). You turn it up one notch and it's too loud, but down one notch and it's too quiet. Analogue controls were way better. You could fine-tune the exact level you want.

I hate DVD movies with the voice track way too low and the music & sound effects way too loud. You turn it up so that you can hear them talk, but then the music and sound effects blast your head off.

I hate on-screen TV displays - for volume, channel (non-set-up things). Separate LED display was better because it didn't block the screen. My TV has a volume display that covers almost 1/4 the damn screen. Any adjustment and you can't see what's going on. (and that's with "display off"!)

Edit: (wasn't finished this rant, either)
When you go to buy a TV, DVD player, camera, stereo, etc. - why in the hell don't the stores have the user manuals available to view? How can you make a decision about whether you like the features of a device if you have no idea how those features work? Do they expect people to choose a device based on how fancy the case looks? Sometimes, you can play with the device and figure out some features (if they have the damn thing on), but most of the time you just have to guess and hope it will work the way you want.


give this man a beer! 100% spot on!

I guess I have a little rant-

I have been having a harder time getting pages to load on this site. One second it's ok (not great) and then it hardly works, takes forever, or just goes to a page that says something like "website is too busy, try again later". It's has been slowly getting worse over the past six months for me. I have noticed that it is not just on my computers/connection.

Could this actually be from more people joining? If so that's pretty impressive!


=)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 13 November 2010, 17:54:52
Quote from: clickclack;246402
I have been having a harder time getting pages to load on this site. One second it's ok (not great) and then it hardly works, takes forever, or just goes to a page that says something like "website is too busy, try again later". It's has been slowly getting worse over the past six months for me.


Same here, though I have suspected my being across the pond was a part of the problem, or at least exacerbating an existing problem. Or Firefox compatiblity?

Sometimes when I submit a comment there is a long delay, I wait patiently, but it eventually says: "you need to wait 30s between submissions" as if I submitted twice (I haven't.) If I reload the thread my comment is there.

But when it works normally there is no speed problem.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 13 November 2010, 18:29:12
Quote from: ripster;246304
Nice stylus.
Why not just get one of those keychain ones?


yea its a nice enough stylus (it telescopes), but i still feel robbed for having to pay $30 (after shipping and tax; decided to buy direct from asus rather than take my chances elsewhere, its actually a discontinued piece).

why not get a keychain one? a) to punish myself. I rarely lose things, and a $30 sting will again remind me for a long time not to lose things. b) its freaking brand new and I want it to be as whole as possible. I've already damaged it enough on day one. c) the original stylus fits nicely into the stylus slots, the others wont, and would only increase the chances that i'd lose those too. d) at some point when I upgrade my nablet i'll want to sell this and things sell for top dollar only if all the pieces are there.

Hate myself for losing it but my consolation is this sort of thing doesnt happen too often with me. I dont remember the last time I lost something. Still, kicking myself. Got caught up in the excitement of showing it off and got careless. Like a little girl. $30 sting is what I deserve.

On another topic, I now have three tablets in my room plus an e-ink ereader. This sounds excessive. I might consolidate the machines once I figured out my new e-workflows. On the other hand, since the goal here is to go all digital and use as little paper as possible, maybe it makes sense to have multiple machines. We'll see.

On top of those machines i'm also eyeing that HP slate 500. It would fill another ereader niche in my life, quite nicely.  Maybe in a year i'll pick up a used one on ebay.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 13 November 2010, 19:54:00
If you ever need a stylus in an emergency, you can easily make a nice, non-abrasive stylus out of a Bic Round-Stic pen.
(http://aka-img-2.h-img.com/media/img/s/X/A/e/XAe-3444323._f125_250.jpg)
What you do is you break off the little clip on the pen cap, and then remove the tip (in the picture, the black plastic portion at the tip). You take the ink cartridge out of the tip, and then stick in the clip you broke off the cap. And then you got yourself a good, non-abrasive stylus that'll work great with capacitive touch screens. I've used these for years.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 13 November 2010, 23:14:33
[Stephen Wright Voice]I just bought an e-eraser, but I don't have any e-readers or a stylus to use it with, so I walk into coffee shops and drop it onto random yuppies laps erasing stuff from their pda, tablet, or laptop.[/Stephen Wright Voice]

Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 14 November 2010, 05:13:37
Quote from: Rajagra;246448
Same here, though I have suspected my being across the pond was a part of the problem, or at least exacerbating an existing problem. Or Firefox compatiblity?

Sometimes when I submit a comment there is a long delay, I wait patiently, but it eventually says: "you need to wait 30s between submissions" as if I submitted twice (I haven't.) If I reload the thread my comment is there.

But when it works normally there is no speed problem.


Just now I had two tabs of geekhack open and pressed f5 for both. The other tab loaded instantly but the other took more than 10 seconds to load. Veery annoying when this happens.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 14 November 2010, 06:46:54
Geekhack has definitely been slow as hell for me lately too (I'm in the USA). Someone should let iMav know!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 14 November 2010, 15:20:16
I hate david pogue.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 14 November 2010, 16:53:49
Quote from: keyboardlover;246630
Geekhack has definitely been slow as hell for me lately too (I'm in the USA). Someone should let iMav know!


I've been noticing the same lately. Maybe they're doing maintanence at the server or something.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 15 November 2010, 00:35:20
pogue is just boring to watch. What is he a geek with a journalism degree?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 07:37:11
Quote from: Lanx;246906
pogue is just boring to watch. What is he a geek with a journalism degree?


what i hate about pogue:
a) infantilization of everything computer-related.  He dumbs down everything tech like he's talking to a 90 year old invalid (or to a 2 year old child), thereby also is very inaccurate in his comparisons and descriptions most of the time. How he became the tech editor at the times is beyond me.
b) insufferable apple fan boy
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 10:06:17
Quote from: ripster;246955

He graduated from Yale University in 1985, summa cum laude with Distinction in Music.[1] He spent ten years working in New York, for a time in the office of Music Theatre International and also intermittently as a Broadway musical conductor.

actually that explains his total lack of computer knowledge!

Quote

Now Walter is a bit boring.


everything i know about walt mosspuppet comes from this site (http://mosspuppet.com/)



fs=1&hl=en_US">fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385">[/youtube]
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 11:54:17
Quote from: ripster;246999
My rant today is about excessive whining.

See above.


oh stop whining.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 15 November 2010, 14:52:23
Quote from: wellington1869;246946

b) insufferable apple fan boy


LOL, i'm pretty sure if your in the media and your a reporter, you "HAVE" to be an apple fanboi. That's how they all are, no opinions no thought process.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:13:31
Improper word usage annoys the hell out of me. I hate when people say "impacted" when they mean "affected" or when they use "issue" instead of "problem".

"The school closure will impact nearly 1200 school children." No, it won't! The school closure will affect nearly 1200 school children. The children won't be impacted, unless the school is hit by an asteroid while they're inside - mashing them into a gooey paste. ("How many children were impacted?" "All of them.")

"My computer is having issues." Issues? Issues?? No, your computer has problems! (and so do you!) What's next - "math issues" in school textbooks instead of "math problems"??
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:24:24
Quote from: clickclack;246402
give this man a beer! 100% spot on!


Thanks, but... I hate beer. (did my percentage just go down? :wink:)

I prefer a good wine. (...and a good whine)

I hate coffee too. It's really annoying that they give out free coffee all over the place, but usually don't have tea - or if they do, it's really crap tea.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:34:25
Quote from: ripster;247160
Only women drink tea in America.

And some foreigners.

I went to Texas once (not by choice) and I ordered tea with my lunch at a restaurant. The waiter was totally confused. He didn't know what I was trying to say. Eventually he got it... or so I thought... but then he brought me an iced tea. I said, "No, I wanted hot tea." He furrowed his brow in a vain attempt to understand, but still couldn't figure it out. I said, "You know - hot water and a tea bag?" He said, "No, we ain't got that. Just this."

It wasn't a cheap restaurant like a Denny's or something. It was an expensive restaurant.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: TexasFlood on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:40:20
Quote from: mr_a500;247170
I went to Texas once (not by choice) and I ordered tea with my lunch at a restaurant. The waiter was totally confused. He didn't know what I was trying to say. Eventually he got it... or so I thought... but then he brought me an iced tea. I said, "No, I wanted hot tea." He furrowed his brow in a vain attempt to understand, but still couldn't figure it out. I said, "You know - hot water and a tea bag?" He said, "No, we ain't got that. Just this."

It wasn't a cheap restaurant like a Denny's or something. It was an expensive restaurant.

When I was a kid growing up in the Texas hill country, iced tea was the only tea I knew of so I can somewhat understand this.  Few folks were mad enough to drink hot tea in the Texas heat!  Oh and in case you were wondering, we drank hot chocolate or cider in the winter.  I know better now, but didn't then.  Times, cultures, and knowledge of other cuisines change over time and improve with 100s of TV channels and easy Internet access, :wink:.
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Post by: HaaTa on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:52:17
I miss my sugarless Green Tea... (iced tea in Canada is crap).
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:58:44
i just want to add that like clickclack i agree with every one of a500's rants so far. well done, rant-meister.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 15:59:16
Quote from: TexasFlood;247175
When I was a kid growing up in the Texas hill country, iced tea was the only tea I knew of so I can somewhat understand this.  Few folks were mad enough to drink hot tea in the Texas heat!  Oh and in case you were wondering, we drank hot chocolate or cider in the winter.  I know better now, but didn't then.  Times, cultures, and knowledge of other cuisines change over time and improve with 100s of TV channels and easy Internet access, :wink:.

I didn't find Texas that hot. The whole week I was there, it was over 100°F (meaningless to me unless I convert it to °C) and they kept saying it was hot - but it didn't feel hot. When it gets that hot in Ontario, it feels hotter - because of humidity and the thinner ozone layer which causes the sun to burn your skin more.

(Why can't the ozone thinning be more over the US instead of Canada? US industries are the ones who originally thinned it!)

Edit: I did like the grass in Texas. The grass is greener in Texas - literally.
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Post by: TexasFlood on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:00:40
Quote from: ripster;247176
Then the southerners stick SUGAR in your iced tea (often a prepared syrup).

EGADS!

You really gotta watch the sweet tea, especially in some restaurants.  You might get something that resembles tea flavored corn syrup, yuk!.  Better off getting the non-sweetened stuff and putting sugar in it yourself if you want it sweetened.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:02:17
Quote from: wellington1869;247184
i just want to add that like clickclack i agree with every one of a500's rants so far. well done, rant-meister.


You want to hear my rant about the War of 1812? :wink:

(Oh yeah, you've already heard that one. :canada:)
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Post by: TexasFlood on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:02:28
Quote from: mr_a500;247185
I didn't find Texas that hot. The whole week I was there, it was over 100°F (meaningless to me unless I convert it to °C) and they kept saying it was hot - but it didn't feel hot. When it gets that hot in Ontario, it feels hotter - because of humidity and the thinner ozone layer which causes the sun to burn your skin more.

(Why can't the ozone thinning be more over the US instead of Canada? US industries are the ones who originally thinned it!)

Texas is pretty big and some parts are more humid than others.  It was fairly humid when I lived.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:16:31
Quote from: TexasFlood;247188
Texas is pretty big and some parts are more humid than others.  It was fairly humid when I lived.


It was fairly humid when you lived? I'm sorry to hear you're no longer living. :wink:

Texas is small compared to Ontario.

Hey... that brings me to another rant: In American movies and TV, they always use Texas as a size comparison, like "It's HUGE. It's twice the size of Texas!" - as if everybody around the world automatically knows the size of Texas - or that Texas is so huge that twice the size should blow your mind.

Even worse - when "to simplify", they say something like "It's 12 football fields long." What the hell is the size of a football field? Which football field? There's American football, Canadian football, Australian football, football (soccer) - professional, competition, amateur. They're all different sizes! Why can't they just say how long or how big? Do they think people are too stupid to understand actual measurements??

They also "simplify" by saying things like "4 out of every 7 people will die". Just give a percentage, damn it!
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:28:51
Quote from: mr_a500;247187
You want to hear my rant about the War of 1812? :wink:

(Oh yeah, you've already heard that one. :canada:)


tee hee ;) i think you met your match on that one ;) I rather enjoyed it ;)
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:29:52
Quote from: mr_a500;247193

Hey... that brings me to another rant: In American movies and TV, they always use Texas as a size comparison, like "It's HUGE. It's twice the size of Texas!" - as if everybody around the world automatically knows the size of Texas - or that Texas is so huge that twice the size should blow your mind.


related rant: people never appreciate enough just how ginormous new york state actually is.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:35:47
Quote from: wellington1869;247205
related rant: people never appreciate enough just how ginormous new york state actually is.


Bah! I could fit New York state in my coat pocket and still have room for a cheese bagel.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:36:33
Quote from: mr_a500;247212
Bah! I could fit New York state in my coat pocket and still have room for a cheese bagel.


thats crazy talk
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Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:36:49
Quote from: mr_a500;247185
Why can't the ozone thinning be more over the US instead of Canada? US industries are the ones who originally thinned it!


It will reach them eventually, it's the Earth equivalent of male pattern baldness. Though I suspect the U.S. will deploy a combover to disguise the effects.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:40:32
Quote from: wellington1869;247214
thats crazy talk


Yeah. You're right. I hate bagels.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:41:29
Quote from: Rajagra;247216
It will reach them eventually, it's the Earth equivalent of male pattern baldness. Though I suspect the U.S. will deploy a combover to disguise the effects.


hair in a can, baby!  Ironically that will just contribute even more to ozone depletion.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 15 November 2010, 16:46:16
Quote from: Rajagra;247216
It will reach them eventually, it's the Earth equivalent of male pattern baldness. Though I suspect the U.S. will deploy a combover to disguise the effects.


Better start dispatching the Rogaine foam!
(http://nutrilion.com/en/images/4rogaine.jpg)
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Post by: woody on Mon, 15 November 2010, 17:46:52
Quote from: ripster;247160
Only women drink tea in America.

And some foreigners.

Almost nobody drinks coffee, too. FFS, how could the only place in California where I had real coffee was a community-run cafe called "Red Rock" (Mountain Dew, IIRC) ...
The other liquid which is devoured by the gallons is more close to "African American's sweat", if I might say so politically correctly.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 15 November 2010, 17:58:08
I don't drink any sort of coffee. I just don't like it. It tastes bad to me, and my mouth and throat are sensitive to hot liquids.

I just drink milk and water for the most part.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 15 November 2010, 19:01:12
omgs i miss good bagel and cream cheese!
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 19:24:51
Quote from: Lanx;247268
omgs i miss good bagel and cream cheese!


i never want to be more than an hour from a good bagel at any time.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 21:39:47
I hate people who constantly say, "You know what?" Even worse are the people who have an annoying attitude and say, "OK.. you know what?" (the "OK" is said quickly, with a short pause before the "you know what?" -  and is as annoying as a slap to the face)

And even worse than that is a loud annoying young bimbo with a *****y attitude, who says, "OK... you know what??" with both hands raised, palms facing forward, head twisting from side to side. These are usually the types that you can't shut up and can't reason with. You just have to stay away from them or you lose your sanity. It's just lucky for these bimbos that they live in this tolerant time period. If any of them hopped in a time machine and went back a couple hundred years, they'd probably be killed as soon as they opened their mouths.

(Edit: and by "bimbos" I mean, "bubble headed ignorant moron" - not the nice intelligent girls)
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 15 November 2010, 21:44:37
Quote from: wellington1869;247271
i never want to be more than an hour from a good bagel at any time.


I have to substitute good bagels with frozen lenders.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 15 November 2010, 23:10:42
Quote from: Lanx;247341
I have to substitute good bagels with frozen lenders.


i like the cinnamon raisin lenders with cream cheese.
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Post by: woody on Tue, 16 November 2010, 04:24:37
Quote from: Lanx;247268
omgs i miss good bagel and cream cheese!

I miss my beagle, too.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 06:47:50
Hey, this is the rant thread, not the "I like cream cheese on my cinnamon raisin beagle bagel" thread. (I'm sure there's one of those threads around here somewhere)

So get ranting!

Rant: I hate when people try to stop people from going off topic when they really really want to go off topic. They should be able to talk about anything they want to. (except bagels... and beagles)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 06:58:39
I hate how every old keyboard sold these days is called "clicky" - without any attempt to find out if it actually is "clicky".

Hint: If it doesn't click, it's not clicky.
Hint #2: A "thwop" does not count as a "click".
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Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 16 November 2010, 07:57:08
Glad you enjoyed your stay in Texas, a_500.  It feels nice when you're about 500 IQ points above the average citizen.  Where where you at?  It's pretty humid here in SA (around 90% most days in the summer).  Since you were talking about green grass, you must have been near the coast or it was May or June.  The grass is pretty brown from July to February-ish.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 08:18:09
Quote from: itlnstln;247444
Glad you enjoyed your stay in Texas, a_500.  It feels nice when you're about 500 IQ points above the average citizen.  Where where you at?  It's pretty humid here in SA (around 90% most days in the summer).  Since you were talking about green grass, you must have been near the coast or it was May or June.  The grass is pretty brown from July to February-ish.


I was just north of Dallas - probably late June. One thing I thought was pretty weird: nobody seems to walk anywhere. They all drive - even if it's within short walking distance. At the crosswalks, even though I had the walk sign, drivers were always shocked that somebody was actually crossing. I nearly got ran over at every crosswalk.
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Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 16 November 2010, 08:27:26
That's why we're the fattest state in the nation.  SA is the fattest city in the US.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 09:25:41
Quote from: mr_a500;247426
Hey, this is the rant thread, not the "I like cream cheese on my cinnamon raisin beagle bagel" thread. (I'm sure there's one of those threads around here somewhere)


good point.  I hate the way "bagels" in chicago are actually just "bagel-shaped bread". They're not real bagels at all!
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Post by: Lanx on Tue, 16 November 2010, 09:34:53
ok rant
I hate that the food here in amish ville is so bad that even the amish hate the food so much that they'll park their horse and buggy right outside of 5guys and go and order a few burgers
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6967/img20101011192654.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/img20101011192654.jpg/)

that's from my camera!
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Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 16 November 2010, 11:02:04
Quote from: Lanx;247486
5guys


5 guys my ass! I only see four people behind the counter and (at least) one of those is a chick. Lying bastards!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 13:55:15
Quote from: Rajagra;247542
5 guys my ass! I only see four people behind the counter and (at least) one of those is a chick. Lying bastards!

One guy is probably on a smoke break - and they probably allow shemales and lesbians to count as a "guy". (There's a grey area there.)
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 16 November 2010, 13:59:42
Quote from: itlnstln;247444
It feels nice when you're about 500 IQ points above the average citizen.

Southerners are not a big bunch of idiots. Only idiots think they are.

There's my rant for today.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 16 November 2010, 14:02:46
Quote from: mr_a500;247635
One guy is probably on a smoke break - and they probably allow shemales and lesbians to count as a "guy". (There's a grey area there.)


(http://www.ovcart.com/images/inventory/16739.3416.zoom.jpg)
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Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 14:04:39
There's a big bunch of idiots no matter where you are. If you don't notice the idiots, you are one of the idiots.

(speaking figuratively, not aimed directly at MW)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 16 November 2010, 14:07:40
Well, there's idiots all over the place. But there's hardly a place where most people are idiots.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 16 November 2010, 14:15:09
It won't for long!
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Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 23:43:44
so it only took me 40 minutes to understand how autoarchiving works in outlook.

why must they make it so hard?

here's some windows retardedness, a list:

-in windows xp, if the computer is shutting down, and you close the lid, guess what happens. Thats right, it ****ing hibernates, so when you turn it on later, it resumes shutting down!  Conclusion? RETARDED.

-when  you're doing windows updates on win7, part of the damn-blasted UAC's feature, is that it puts the permissions dialog box BEHIND the current window. Result: You never see it, all you see is the windows update status bar 'frozen' for about 30 minutes before you realize it hasnt moved and you poke around and find out ****ing windows is waiting for you to click 'yes' and it never showed you that window cuz it was behind all the other windows in the Z order. Conclusion? RETARDED, ****ing Retarded.

-If you click the big blue explorer icon on the taskbar in win7, it opens a new tab. Not a new window as you might expect. I cant tell you how many clients we've seen clicking ferociously on the blue icon and praying to god they get a new window rather than a new tab. Yes, its shift-click for a new window. And hows the average clueless user supposed to guess that?  I *hate* that the default of that click is new tab rather than the far more intuitive new window. if people want ****ing tabs, they'll click the ****ing tab button inside an ie window.

-autoarchive: yea, try explaining how it works to your average clueless client. Watch their eyes glaze over. They immediately become susceptible to apple propaganda from any passing apple fanboy during that moment.

-Migrate 300 computers from xp to win7 much? Just ****ing shoot me. What the ****, MS.

-can someone blow up the celeron manufacturing arm of intel?  While you're at it take out the Atom processor arm. No, they suck. They do. They just suck. They suck. No, they suck.  Replace them permanently with i3 ULVs. Thats as 'bottom' as performance should ever get.

-can someone blow up the department that decided default line spacing in word 07 should be double-wide? And you have to hit shift-enter to get a normal carraige return? I dont know a single person at work who hasnt complained about it and then spent 5 days googling how to change the template (and of course, not having the change stick, cuz making it permanent involves another MS-provided ****ing jigsaw puzzle).

-oh, office 2010 has the same wonderful putrid line spacing feature intact.

-they got rid of the stupid talking paperclip -- only to replace it with stupid auto-correct popup lightning bolts -- which are worse. Yes, they're worse. Even clippy didnt show up as often as they do, getting in the way of your reading, typing, and mousing, at every opportunity.

--MS, no one, no normal user, understands how to use 'virtual folders' in win7. They're not going to use it. Take it away. All it does is contribute to a sense of data insecurity and anxiety cuz now you dont even know definitively in which folder your damn file is actually stored.

Its little things like that that give poor windows such a bad name.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 16 November 2010, 23:55:56
and can they just come out with self encrypting drives as a standard feature on ALL drives already? WTF? The kinds of personal information filling our landfills is equivalent to back when they used to print your entire credit card on the receipt and any passing bum could fish it out of the garbage and go on a shopping spree. Its on that level, the inanity, stupidity, of current hard drive makers and current tech, where absolutely nothing is protected, even as more and more of our personal lives are on those drives every day.  Its just incredible to me that SEDs arent standard yet. It boggles my ****ing mind.
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Post by: clickclack on Wed, 17 November 2010, 02:26:06
Quote from: mr_a500;247157
Thanks, but... I hate beer. (did my percentage just go down? :wink:) ...

haahaaa, nah... I don't really drink, I just like using that line. So no worries =P

Quote from: mr_a500;247193
... They're all different sizes! Why can't they just say how long or how big? Do they think people are too stupid to understand actual measurements??

probably
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Post by: clickclack on Wed, 17 November 2010, 02:30:45
Quote from: microsoft windows;247648
Well, there's idiots all over the place. But there's hardly a place where most people are idiots.

Except for most every place ;P


kinda had a bad day at work
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Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 17 November 2010, 09:29:26
Quote from: wellington1869;247909
so it only took me 40 minutes to understand how autoarchiving works in outlook.

why must they make it so hard?

here's some windows retardedness, a list:


Oh don't get started on Windows retardedness. I could fill a 100-page thread, just by myself. I'm serious. I once kept a log of Windows bugs and design flaws. Whenever I found one, I wrote it down - to keep me from going insane, developing bulging veins in my forehead and saying repeated swears like a Turret's syndrome maniac. I filled an entire workbook.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 17 November 2010, 10:58:36
No, I was talking about Turret's syndrome. That's a rare and annoying syndrome similar to Tourette's Syndrome, but your nipples become turrets capable of firing small gauge ballistics. (dangerous to use ammo that doesn't fit properly)

It's a 1950's military experiment gone wrong.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 17 November 2010, 11:19:22
I have never - NEVER - wanted a document to be saved in the My Documents folder. I have a proper place on my D: drive for data. But sodding Windows keeps putting stuff there.

I finally got round to 'moving' My Documents to D:, but it's still not the directory I want to save anything to. Stop giving me 'help' I didn't ask for, Microsoft.

Quote from: mr_a500;248059
No, I was talking about Turret's syndrome. That's a rare and annoying syndrome similar to Tourette's Syndrome, but your nipples become turrets capable of firing small gauge ballistics. (dangerous to use ammo that doesn't fit properly)

It's a 1950's military experiment gone wrong.

It's can be tragic if left untreated...

(http://newzeelend.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/tanks-and-boobs-auckland-09.jpeg?w=600&h=400)
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Post by: RoboKrikit on Wed, 17 November 2010, 13:11:13
Quote from: Rajagra;248074
I have never - NEVER - wanted a document to be saved in the My Documents folder. I have a proper place on my D: drive for data. But sodding Windows keeps putting stuff there.

I finally got round to 'moving' My Documents to D:, but it's still not the directory I want to save anything to. Stop giving me 'help' I didn't ask for, Microsoft.[/IMG]

Windows 7 and Vista now have symbolic links. Yay!

Do this (Assuming Windows 7 or Vista):

1. Delete your empty Documents or "My Documents" directory.
2. Open a cmd window as Administrator (type cmd in a Run box, right-click 'cmd.exe', select 'Run as Administrator').
3. Change to the parent directory of your Documents directory, e.g. C:\Users\you\.
4. Link Documents to the directory you want your documents to really go to, e.g.:

Code: [Select]
mklink /D Documents "d:\data\MyCrap"
I'm a Unix guy, but recently built my first Windows box in a while.  I was happy to find that Win7 finally had decent symbolic links built in.  You can even mount an additional partition to a pathname now instead of using a drive letter.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 17 November 2010, 13:28:21
Today's Rant:

Right now I'm running updates on a computer at work. It's running Internet Explorer 7 (The worst browser ever. Why can't they either use MSIE8 or stick with MSIE6?) and Mozilla Firefox. So, now I'm typing this in Firefox. But one thing that I REALLY hate is these stupid "quote auto-complete" things where whenever you hit the " key, you gotta type an extra space after it. Or if you're quoting something that starts with a vowel, it adds an accent to it. I want to shoot whoever came up with that concept.

Luckily, though, Opera, Internet Explorer 6, and Microsoft Office '97 don't default to doing that. If they did I'd have thrown my computers out the window long ago.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Wed, 17 November 2010, 14:53:52
(http://deviation.org/random/wat.jpg)
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Post by: RoboKrikit on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:02:47
Glad someone picked up on the reference.

Nice pics. The relief statues are interesting; I hope they take turns being the table.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:08:09
Quote from: Rajagra;248074
I have never - NEVER - wanted a document to be saved in the My Documents folder. I have a proper place on my D: drive for data. But sodding Windows keeps putting stuff there.

omg me too! I always make a D partition called Data and put everything of any importance in my own folder system there. I wouldnt trust 'my documents' as far as i could throw it.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:12:11
This issue is largely solved in Windows 7 as the new filesystem got rid of the much loathed "documents and settings" folder. The new filesystem structure is more similar to linux. My documents is now C:\Users\Username\Documents.
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Post by: instantkamera on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:20:26
Quote from: keyboardlover;248290
This issue is largely solved in Windows 7 as the new filesystem got rid of the much loathed "documents and settings" folder. The new filesystem structure is more similar to linux. My documents is now C:\Users\Username\Documents.


Now they just have to get rid of those silly drive letters ...
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Post by: Lanx on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:37:58
Quote from: wellington1869;248289
omg me too! I always make a D partition called Data and put everything of any importance in my own folder system there. I wouldnt trust 'my documents' as far as i could throw it.


mines is just a seperate thumb drive, i think i'll have that "drive" goto carbonite soon one day too for easy backup. I really like seperation of stuff and "mydocuments" is pretty worthless to me as well.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:46:00
Quote from: wellington1869;248289
omg me too! I always make a d partition called data and put everything of any importance in my own folder system there.

Quite right too! All my PCs are like this:



All my local work goes in D:\Data\
That (should be) the only directory I ever need to back up. Except when Windows sabotages that plan.

D:\Data\From contains copies of data from a variety of sources, other PCs for example. So if I want to backup this PC's data onto another, I just copy D:\Data\Scan3XS from this PC to D:\Data\From\Scan3XS on the other PC. Simples.

D:\Data\Installation contains every bit of application software or hardware drivers that I've downloaded in the last several years. I never have any trouble finding files if I need to (re)install anything.

P.S. I call the data disk "DataDisk" rather than just "Data" to avoid any possible ambiguity about whether I am looking at the disk or the subdirectory called "Data".


Oh this is supposed to be a rant thread. So... I get annoyed when other people don't organise their data properly like I do!
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Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:57:38
Quote from: ripster;248319
I used to do all that.  Then hard disks got so cheap I just mirror.


I do that too. Using external drives of course. You didn't mean another internal drive I hope? That barely qualifies as a backup. Don't make me rant about that.

Bonus rant. When you click a directory in Vista, it doesn't automatically expand it like XP did. Why? Why in the name of God did they remove such a useful feature? Why didn't they put it back in when people complained?

Did they fix this in Windows 7?
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Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 17 November 2010, 18:57:39
Quote from: wellington1869;248289
omg me too! I always make a D partition called Data and put everything of any importance in my own folder system there. I wouldnt trust 'my documents' as far as i could throw it.


Yes, I've always hated the Windows folder structure (the Linux and OSX structure too). On my Amiga, I can put anything I want - anywhere. The OS is on its own partition. My programs are on the "Work" partition, in folders sorted by type. The folders are Productivity, Development, Multimedia, Science, Music, Games, Internet, etc.. I have a partition called "Content" where I have Documents, Music, Images - for stuff created by me or downloaded. If, for some reason, some application corrupts the "Work" partition (which actually has never happened), it won't affect either the OS or my content.

I probably already mentioned this somewhere before, but I once tried - on a fresh Windows install - to install all other programs on a separate drive. It was a complete disaster. I had to reinstall everything. Install programs might give the option to install somewhere else, but most of them completely **** up if they're not in the default Programs folder, on the same drive as Windows.

Quote from: instantkamera;248297
Now they just have to get rid of those silly drive letters ...


Drive letters... how primitive. Amiga has never had drive letters. My partitions and drives have names - and (unlike Linux) those names can be changed as easily as changing a filename.
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Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 17 November 2010, 19:36:01
I hate ripster's avatar. As I've said before - it looks like a German transsexual in a LensCrafters commercial.
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Post by: RoboKrikit on Wed, 17 November 2010, 19:52:40
Quote from: mr_a500;248329
I probably already mentioned this somewhere before, but I once tried - on a fresh Windows install - to install all other programs on a separate drive. It was a complete disaster. I had to reinstall everything. Install programs might give the option to install somewhere else, but most of them completely **** up if they're not in the default Programs folder, on the same drive as Windows.


Now you can symlink Program Files and Program Files (x86) to some other directory on another disk if you want.  Windows still pretty much sucks, but it's getting better in some places. :)

Quote
Drive letters... how primitive. Amiga has never had drive letters. My partitions and drives have names - and (unlike Linux) those names can be changed as easily as changing a filename.


One thing I like about Unix filesystem mounting is that you can take a directory on a small disk that is filling up, say, /home/mr_a500/downloads, copy out your data, and mount a new partition as /home/mr_a500/downloads, as large as you like.  As of Win7 (maybe Vista? I dunno), you can mount new partitions this way too, no drive letter required.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 17 November 2010, 20:09:56
Quote from: ripster;248348
See that finger she's pointing?

You know where to stick it.


He won't stand still long enough!

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8866&d=1270242639)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 18 November 2010, 07:59:25
Here's my rant for today:

Has anyone heard that song "Hey Soul Sister" by Train? I hate it with such a passion. I think it is by far the worst song I've ever heard in my 28 years on this Earth. When I hear it I feel like I want to run very far away, or do nearly anything I can to get away from it. Anyone else feel this way?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Thu, 18 November 2010, 08:27:18
Quote from: keyboardlover;248554
Here's my rant for today:

Has anyone heard that song "Hey Soul Sister" by Train? I hate it with such a passion. I think it is by far the worst song I've ever heard in my 28 years on this Earth. When I hear it I feel like I want to run very far away, or do nearly anything I can to get away from it. Anyone else feel this way?


I suggest you don't listen to Justin Bieber then. It will literally blow your mind.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 18 November 2010, 09:42:17
Quote from: mr_a500;248346
I hate ripster's avatar. As I've said before - it looks like a German transsexual in a LensCrafters commercial.


Hahahahahahahahaha.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 18 November 2010, 10:13:46
its interesting to see what ya'll are calling your folders (and to see your folder organization).

I think folder-org is one of those activities everyone does alone. And wonders if everyone else is doing the same. lol.

Here's mine. Its a bit complicated (its grown incrementally over time) but it still works really well for me, in terms of being able to file away the never ending stream of digital data that enters my life.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13558&stc=1&d=1290096802)


Since this is a rant thread: I hate people who never think about their folder structures and then never know what to put into the backup set when the time comes to backup their data -- or therefore never end up with a systematic backup strategy -- and then lose all their data -- and then weep on my shoulder. (Its actually happened. Awkwaaaaard.)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 18 November 2010, 10:48:04
Has this already been mentioned ... things for sale on Amazon / eBay etc. that don't give the dimensions. Reminded of this by the keyboard storage case threads. Searching for something suitable becomes nearly impossible. How can you anyone sell a box online without mentioning the size???

Back to filing systems. As important as a hierarchical filing system is, it does lead to difficult choices. Do I put my keyboard photos in ...\Pictures\Keyboards or ...\Keyboards\Pictures. Maybe it's time to replace the hierarchical system with a tag-based system instead.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 18 November 2010, 11:41:51
Quote from: Rajagra;248609
Do I put my keyboard photos in ...\Pictures\Keyboards or ...\Keyboards\Pictures. Maybe it's time to replace the hierarchical system with a tag-based system instead.


no way man! I'm agin tags! I couldnt survive without a linear heirarchical system. Tags are relativism!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Thu, 18 November 2010, 11:50:30
Quote from: wellington1869;248599
its interesting to see what ya'll are calling your folders

I call (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOLOnJbBdkI) them "sub-directories", or "directories" for short.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 18 November 2010, 12:28:46
 :blank:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Thu, 18 November 2010, 13:09:38
I see we share love about retro computers and squirrels. Bad that I got two Amiga models off ebay and then just gave them away to a friend due to lack of space. We'll have to talk only about squirrels. And underwear.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 18 November 2010, 14:14:18
i'm sick and dying of some flu. As such i'm using a lighter to melt the abs plastic in my mod to "remold" it to form again. I'm sick and barely have any coordination why do i have to use a safety lighter! why can't there be a lighter without the safety, there's no kids in my house and even my dog is older than me in dog years.
(i could use my zippo, but then i'd have to refill it first)
and for that matter child safety bottles too, why can't i get the non safe version! when your sick you want to pop pills fast!
plus i'm sure those safety pill things mess up old ppl with arthritis (i'm sure they have old ppl bottles i guess).
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Thu, 18 November 2010, 14:28:19
Quote from: Lanx;248756
i'm sick and dying of some flu. As such i'm using a lighter to melt the abs plastic in my mod to "remold" it to form again. I'm sick and barely have any coordination why do i have to use a safety lighter! why can't there be a lighter without the safety, there's no kids in my house and even my dog is older than me in dog years.
(i could use my zippo, but then i'd have to refill it first)
and for that matter child safety bottles too, why can't i get the non safe version! when your sick you want to pop pills fast!
plus i'm sure those safety pill things mess up old ppl with arthritis (i'm sure they have old ppl bottles i guess).


Always consider the safety of the kids (even when there's no kids to consider about). This seems to be the trend these days.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Thu, 18 November 2010, 14:52:25
Quote from: Rajagra;248609
Do I put my keyboard photos in ...\Pictures\Keyboards or ...\Keyboards\Pictures. Maybe it's time to replace the hierarchical system with a tag-based system instead.


You put them in Pictures\Keyboards, then symlink Keyboards\Pictures to the same location.  At least until a better filesystem comes along.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Thu, 18 November 2010, 15:08:47
Seth Resnick has a pretty awesome Lightroom organizational system that he covers in some videos with Michael Reichmann (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/wamp.shtml).  I haven't read the book (http://www.d-65.com/downloads.html) yet, but it should be more up to date with LR3.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 18 November 2010, 15:55:42
Quote from: db_Iodine;248770
Always consider the safety of the kids (even when there's no kids to consider about). This seems to be the trend these days.

But kids have no trouble opening them. They have nimble fingers. It's adults who struggle to open "child-proof" containers.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Thu, 18 November 2010, 18:43:44
I passed 256 posts. This is not going well.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 19 November 2010, 09:00:10
Today's rant: hypocrisy:

Obama is meeting with NATO in Lisbon today (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/world/europe/20prexy.html?partner=rss&emc=rss) with plans for an American missle defense system in Europe. The SAME EXACT PLAN that Bush was heavily criticized for trying to set up before.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 19 November 2010, 10:23:10
Quote from: keyboardlover;249130
Today's rant: hypocrisy:

Obama is meeting with NATO in Lisbon today (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/world/europe/20prexy.html?partner=rss&emc=rss) with plans for an American missle defense system in Europe. The SAME EXACT PLAN that Bush was heavily criticized for trying to set up before.


that was a different time, when we didn't have a recession, now we need to pimp out our government defense contractors and load em up full of projects so they can pillage money.
am i defending anything? hell no, hell i'm sure we could loose 80% of our army and still kick anyones ass, we're just that powerful.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Fri, 19 November 2010, 15:24:49
Still no email from Chuck of Unicomp fame. :(
Very probably not having SpaceSaving (in the Unicomp sense) Xmas.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 19 November 2010, 18:01:57
Quote from: keyboardlover;249130
Today's rant: hypocrisy:

Obama is meeting with NATO in Lisbon today (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/world/europe/20prexy.html?partner=rss&emc=rss) with plans for an American missle defense system in Europe. The SAME EXACT PLAN that Bush was heavily criticized for trying to set up before.


today's rant: people who never criticize their own side...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 19 November 2010, 18:05:30
I never got the idea behind that missile system. If they were really trying to defend from missiles coming from places like Iran or North Korea, shouldn't they like, move the defense system a bit closer to those places?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 19 November 2010, 19:02:49
Quote from: wellington1869;249488
today's rant: people who never criticize their own side...

Agreed :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 19 November 2010, 19:54:59
why does a person even have a "side"? i think that's pretty much single minded. How can a normal human being be totally conservative on all issues and how can ppl be totally liberal about other issues, there should a be mix of both.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 19 November 2010, 23:41:19
Quote from: ripster;249492
I think Republicans that criticize President Obama are unpatriotic traitors to the flag.


this.  isnt that what they said about critics of bush?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 19 November 2010, 23:42:00
Quote from: keyboardlover;249508
Agreed :D


like fox news.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Sat, 20 November 2010, 05:19:29
William and Kate, William and Kate, William and Kagggggggrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!

They've been all over the papers recently and it's only going to get worse the closer it gets. It's not going to be totally inescapable but still, gargantuan levels of restraint will be required as the levels of simpering around me increase to near unbearable levels. No doubt there'll be flags everywhere, street parties, souvenir tea towels, and commemorative plates. And then there's the day itself with tv channels devoted to besuited men and women in hats, speaking in sombre tones of the greatness of the occasion as endless panning shots of streets lined with hoardes of wide-eyed, flag waving, mouth breathers, subsumed by some sort of mass hysteria to the verge of wetting themselves...

"Oh but it's good for the country" they protest, "Think of the publicity, the tourism".

**** it, crown Harry Potter. Think of the good that'll do.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 20 November 2010, 09:09:15
british ppl should feel elated that he stooped to such a low level as to marry a commoner.
wtf are we still in the medevil ages?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Sat, 20 November 2010, 10:47:26
Didn't you build a guillotine Ripster? Now THATS what I'm talkin about!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 11:33:50
ok, i'll just come out and say it: I rather like monarchies.
modern constitutional monarchies in which the royals dont have real power, that is. I think it adds glamor and monarchs can use their wealth and influence to do some good now and then. So whats wrong with that?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 12:10:20
Quote from: ripster

In America we have Wall Street running the country.


Oh, is that really how it works?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Sat, 20 November 2010, 12:26:50
I would rather be a citizen than a subject. I don't really like the idea of pledging allegiance to anything, but I'd rather it be my nation, a constitution, or an ideal, than a person.

I know little about life outside my own, but don't kids at school in the states swear allegiance to the flag every day? How would you feel if they swore allegiance to Obama or Bush who (it has to be said) were at least elected?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 12:38:53
That's a really good point. We pledge allegiance to a set of principles really more so than a singular person. Very interesting.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 20 November 2010, 12:47:33
Quote from: Twitchy;249737
I would rather be a citizen than a subject. I don't really like the idea of pledging allegiance to anything, but I'd rather it be my nation, a constitution, or an ideal, than a person.


Here in the UK we don't have to pledge allegiance to anything. What's the deal with America making schoolkids pledge allegiance to their nation? Sounds like the kind of thing communists do.

Our Royal Family may be a vestigial remnant, like an appendix or the leftover bit of our monkey tails. But they are harmless and give us character.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Sat, 20 November 2010, 13:19:46
Quote from: Rajagra;249744
Here in the UK we don't have to pledge allegiance to anything.

True, we don't have to, unless we join the armed forces, the police, the clergy, or all sorts of other public roles, and don't let me forget the scouts or girl guides (I kid you not). New British citizens/subjects have to as well I believe.

It may be a vestige, but a it's a remnant of something that was once about brutal subjugation. Something that I'd rather we cut all ties with.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 18:50:32
Quote from: Rajagra;249744
But they are harmless and give us character.


thats what i'm sayin.

Quote from: Twitchy;249763
It may be a vestige, but a it's a remnant of something that was once about brutal subjugation. Something that I'd rather we cut all ties with.


but that was true all around the world before the advent of the modern democratic nation state. there's nothing special about the english monarchy in that regard. on the contrary, like the catholic church, they should be given some credit for coming to terms with modernity and scaling back their power. Look at all the institutions in the world (communism, islamism, to name two) that still refuse to do that.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 18:52:43
If the Queen of England tried to give me character, I think I'd politely refuse the offer. I like the fact that the English are polite.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 19:01:27
i think the presence of a monarchy is also a guard against communism. everyone knows commies detest monarchies. for that reason alone we ought to keep a ceremonial monarch. just to piss off the commies.
you could write it in the constitution and say the monarch's official role is to piss off commies.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 20 November 2010, 20:23:27
Quote from: mr_a500;245359

I hate PC architecture. Every time I boot, I wonder what's going to get ****ed up. It happens on every PC I've ever used. It might randomly miss the mouse on bootup - and I have to **** around finding a way to shut down and restart without mouse. It might boot with no sound card detected - or no graphics card - or no network card - or no USB. What a pile of crap!

On the Amiga, you never have these problems.


Never had any problem like that on my IBMs. My PC 300 6562 was actually the first IBM PC to sport USB.
And most of my IBM computers have ethernet lights, so, I can always see when a signal is being transferred.

In fact, in IBM BIOS you can allow the computer to run without a keyboard attached (or I think a mouse). Can't really do that with any other kind of computer with gutless BIOSes.

And it's very easy to "shut down/restart" a computer without a mouse.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 21:44:33
Quote from: ripster;249940
That worked real well for Russia.

In Soviet Russia King puts sword on Comrade's shoulder, Comrade cuts King's head off.


but thats exactly what i mean. if you can maintain a monarchy, it means the commies havent yet taken over.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 21:51:19
Quote from: wellington1869
but thats exactly what i mean. if you can maintain a monarchy, it means the commies havent yet taken over.


You seem to like monarchies a lot. I reccomend moving to one. I'm serious, go live in one of those countries for 1-3 years. See what you think and report back.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 21:53:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;250004
You seem to like monarchies a lot. I reccomend moving to one. I'm serious, go live in one of those countries for 1-3 years. See what you think and report back.


you mean like england? yea, i wouldnt mind that at all actually.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 21:56:14
It's very easy to say you like the concept of something, but you don't really know until you've experienced it. So, I say go for it; at least then you'll know.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 22:01:31
Say Welly, I think there are monarchies closer to home...

(http://www.debateitout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/George-W-Bush.jpg)

At least in England the simpleton children don't have any power.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 20 November 2010, 22:05:37
This is who has the power in Ireland:

(http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-Ireland.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 22:09:26
Clearly that man has collapsed from lack of monarchism!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 20 November 2010, 22:34:53
Quote from: keyboardlover;250004
You seem to like monarchies a lot. I reccomend moving to one. I'm serious, go live in one of those countries for 1-3 years. See what you think and report back.


Well, lived nearly all my life in a commonwealth country, and a year in Japan.

Technically, both monarchies. I still don't really care if they are there or not.
If anything, it provides an excuse to maintain the extravagant palaces they have (thus preserving historical buildings).
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 20 November 2010, 23:36:16
Quote from: ch_123;250018
Say Welly, I think there are monarchies closer to home...

Show Image
(http://www.debateitout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/George-W-Bush.jpg)


At least in England the simpleton children don't have any power.


well, doesnt quite count since we've had regime change since then...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 21 November 2010, 00:00:05
i wish our regime change was actually this hardcore. I mean the way it's going, seems like the old guy whose gonna die and Milf woulda made better leaders, i mean hell she has been reported to be worth 2million, all in 2 years, that's a lot of growth@!!! i mean you can hate her all you want for sounding pretty stupid and spouting nonsense, but she's got the greenbacks, she knows her audience.

(http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-rapper.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 21 November 2010, 03:58:13
she does know her audience.

On another topic, gentlemen, I've once again rediscovered that its a crazy world and people in general are amazingly bat**** crazy. I don't know why this always surprises me as if I'm learning it for the first time. Probably because I'm an inveterate idealist and that will be my downfall, no doubt.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ricercar on Sun, 21 November 2010, 14:25:47
Quote from: woody;247247
the only place in California where I had real coffee was a community-run cafe called "Red Rock" (Mountain Dew, IIRC)


You mean Mountain View, California, I think? My band's played there. Lousy acoustics; great coffee.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Sun, 21 November 2010, 14:29:49
Quote from: wellington1869;250067
bat**** crazy


and paranoid <_<
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Sun, 21 November 2010, 15:13:10
Quote from: ricercar;250209
You mean Mountain View, California, I think? My band's played there. Lousy acoustics; great coffee.

My lousy attempt at word play == PHAIL.

Yes, great coffee. How could this place be community-run, and offer real coffee cheaply and free internet. Starbucks my rear end.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: maclover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 06:17:41


argh
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 10:53:32
today's rant: so someone explain this to me: airline passengers are REFUSING body pat downs and scans? What, DO THEY *WANT* TO DIE IN A HIJACKING?

what the **** is wrong with american citizens?  

If you ask me, all this 'rebelling agains tthe TSA" (which must be causing al queda to ROLL ON THE FLOOR, LAUGHING, and thanking their lucky stars that the ordinary american citizen wants to make the terrorists' job EASIER), all this rebelling against the TSA is just part of the MINDLESS, VACUOUS, rebelling against 'big guv'ment' that Fox news championed. Here its coming back to bite them in the ass.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 10:54:32
Have you seen the pat downs? They remind me WAY too much of my last physical.

I wonder if they ask you to turn your head and cough?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 11:12:31
Have you seen the latest about airline passengers refusing the anal probe? Why do they hate America?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 11:20:18
Quote from: wellington1869;250603
today's rant: so someone explain this to me: airline passengers are REFUSING body pat downs and scans? What, DO THEY *WANT* TO DIE IN A HIJACKING?
You're more likely to be struck by lightning. Twice.

Seriously, it's about time people started to fight back against this bull****. Everyone was perfectly happy when their phones and Internet connections were being tapped without warrants or oversight, US citizens were being held without charges or access to council, wedding parties were being bombed in Pakistan, but when somebody grabs their junk, that's what crosses the line.

Of course when the TSA defends the policy, they bring up completely stupid examples that have nothing to do with my safety. How does it make ME safer to find drugs on some other passenger? How would it have endangered me if that passenger had completed the flight with dope in his pants?

As usual, anti-terrorism efforts are just an excuse to expand the pointless war on drugs.

If a terrorist wanted to kill a lot of people these days, why bother with an airplane? Why not blow up a shopping mall, or a crowd in Time's square? No metal detectors at either of those locations, you could bring a completely ordinary bomb, poison gas device, whatever, and wouldn't have to come up with a fancy toothpaste/underwear/shoebomb.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:00:58
interesting. i see there are people on this very forum who WANT to be suicide bomb fodder.
be a sacrificial lamb on your own time, dont take me with you. if you refuse a pat down i'm not getting on a plane with you, sorry.  and nor should the tsa let you on.
morons.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:04:54
As usual, your post is highly relevant and intellectually thought-provoking.

...riveting, even.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:09:20
Quote from: kishy;250614
Took the words out of my mouth...
Had a pseudo-argument in IRC last night about this exact topic.


srsly.

if they dont get patted, they dont fly. If the tsa backs down on this, i'll consider my guv'ment to have failed me.
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:13:44
Seriously, it's all security theater. It's not making you safer, just keeping you afraid.

Being killed by a terrorist on an airplane is one of the least likely ways to die. 40,000+ people are killed every year in car accidents, but we don't have a collective crazed freak-out about that. We don't put breathalysers in every car. We don't have a panic attack and subject ourselves to cavity searches every time we get in a car. Compared to being killed by a terrorist, you're more likely to die from the seasonal flu, or falling off a bike, or being bit by a snake, or being struck by lightning, or accidentally shooting yourself. Yes, they're all things that we take completely reasonable precautions around, but we don't change the way we live.

The amount of fear surrounding terrorism and airplanes is unreasonable and irrational.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:16:27
IMO, it's one thing if they want to use some device to see if we have bombs in our underpants, but it's another to put us on a screen that shows us completely nude (I dare you to do it and say it doesn't remove some part of your dignity) or subject us to forced hernia checks.

Maybe it's just me, but that's not my definition of 'peace of mind'.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:17:00
I've been patted down at the airport several times. It was not much different than being patted down at a club or bar, with the exception of going a little higher in the crotch.

These new procedures for people who opt to not pass through the backscatter machines are not the same as a routine pat down.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:20:24


I sure feel safer!

(http://www.angryblacklady.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/TSA-wants-to-feel-you-up.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 12:58:45
Quote from: Fwiffo;250653


I sure feel safer!


um, how uninformed can you be? You do know, dont you, that they even stuffed a DOG with explosives?
If someone like you saw a dog going thru the TSA's scanner, you'd be "outraged", i'm sure. You'd mock it. Guess what, the plane would have blown up.
I'm ****ing grateful YOU are not in charge of our security.
The only reason they found out about the dog was because it died while sitting in its wire cage - cuz it was stuffed full of explosives by terrorists.

And guess what, if they DIDNT search everyone equally (whether children or old ladies), YOU'd be the FIRST to start SCREAMING about "profiling". You should be grateful they're searching everyone equally.

You're exactly the kind of person who is NOT helping in ANY way, with your contradictions and your fake 'outrages'.  At least try to be consistent for gods sake.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 13:03:07
Do you even discuss keyboards on this forum anymore?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 22 November 2010, 13:04:32
if i ever had family that required traveling on a holiday i'd say f that. Why? cuz of the TSA. i remember going through the airport scanner and it beeped and i said oh yea, i had a few more cents in my pocket. Had to strip down to my t-shirt cuz i was wearing a hoodie (i like to sleep on planes and when i do, i put the hoodie over me so my head doesn't go rubbing against the nasty airline headrest).
i mean TSA really is a bunch of ppl who only have GED's right? but we give them power, just like police. Now i'm not saying police become officers just to wave their badge around but i'm sure that's part of it. So why would you want to be TSA? well cuz you don't have a job, it pays well and a government job at that. Oh and they have a 100% failure rate too, cuz they've caught no one and are pedo's and make little kids with the same names as suspects wait to clear their name everytime they fly.
You know the story little kids who were born after 9-11 are on the terrorist watch list cuz they have the same name as someone else. So what do moms do, they put the ticket as a different name for i.e.
if the kid is named michael dugan. she'll just put on the ticket
mike dugan and that will 100% go through without trouble.
gee what a smart mom and dumb system, also why is she travelling so much with her kid? i think i flew for the first time when i was 12 then when i was 29... so like why do 5year olds have to travel so much anyway?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 22 November 2010, 13:08:43
Quote from: wellington1869;250674
um, how uninformed can you be? You do know, dont you, that they even stuffed a DOG with explosives?
If someone like you saw a dog going thru the TSA's scanner, you'd be "outraged", i'm sure. You'd mock it. Guess what, the plane would have blown up.
I'm ****ing grateful YOU are not in charge of our security.
The only reason they found out about the dog was because it died while sitting in its wire cage - cuz it was stuffed full of explosives by terrorists.

And guess what, if they DIDNT search everyone equally (whether children or old ladies), YOU'd be the FIRST to start SCREAMING about "profiling". You should be grateful they're searching everyone equally.

You're exactly the kind of person who is NOT helping in ANY way, with your contradictions and your fake 'outrages'.  At least try to be consistent for gods sake.


seriously? your arguing that these TSA fools aren't PEDO's? this is just TSA for dummies, they search every and all ppls. it's like zero tolerance at school, kids can't bring in a butter knife to school to cut their birthday cake.

We should instead have profiling. Not racial profiling but like trained govenment profiling.
"Oh look that white guy looks jittery, he fits the profile of tim mcvahe"
I'd agree to that.
"oh he's wearing full muslim garb, well if he's really a terrorist he'd actually try to blend in, instead duh! lemme go find the jihad mtherf'er wearing a yankee's jersey"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 13:17:47
For those unfamiliar with Welly, he's a big baby/whiner. Off Topic is pretty much his soapbox to complain about how rotten the world is. He hardly ever posts in other parts of the forum. You can feed the troll, ignore, or post funny pics for the lulz. Personally, I liked the Pedo bear one :D
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 13:29:37
Quote from: wellington1869;250674
um, how uninformed can you be? You do know, dont you, that they even stuffed a DOG with explosives?

It happened in the middle of a war zone, half-way around the world. I think it would have been on the news if a plane had been taken down by an exploding dog. There are also bomb-sniffing dogs and explosive sniffing machines all over airports, so sexually assaulting passengers is not necessary, nor effective.

If the guy is a suicide bomber, and really wants to get explosives past security, why not stuff THEMSELVES full of explosives? Or stuff their kid full of explosives. Are we going to subject ourselves to body cavity searches to prevent butt-plug bombers?
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:29:27
Quote from: Fwiffo;250683
It happened in the middle of a war zone, half-way around the world. I think it would have been on the news if a plane had been taken down by an exploding dog. There are also bomb-sniffing dogs and explosive sniffing machines all over airports, so sexually assaulting passengers is not necessary, nor effective.

dude, more uninformedness from you, if you are not aware of all the cells and plots that have already been discovered in the heart of western democracies, in the US (chicago, minneapolis, new york, florida, arizona) to european capitals as well (most recently berlin).  How bizarre that you'd approve of searches in middle eastern countries and not in the west, when terrorism today is a global phenomenon. It almost sounds like you're profiling middle eastern countries. And thats just sick.

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If the guy is a suicide bomber, and really wants to get explosives past security, why not stuff THEMSELVES full of explosives? Or stuff their kid full of explosives. Are we going to subject ourselves to body cavity searches to prevent butt-plug bombers?


um, thats what the scans are for, Einstein.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:30:51
Quote from: keyboardlover;250681
For those unfamiliar with Welly, he's a big baby/whiner. Off Topic is pretty much his soapbox to complain about how rotten the world is. He hardly ever posts in other parts of the forum. You can feed the troll, ignore, or post funny pics for the lulz. Personally, I liked the Pedo bear one :D


haha! I love newbies (and trolls) coming on this site and trying to characterize me as evil. (and themselves as the voice of reason -lol. Good one.)

as usual, keyb, you're dying to make this about ME.  Cuz you dont like logic and reason much.
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Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:32:01
Quote from: ripster;250684
There is only one logical end to a Rant thread.
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Fingerbang your head with a heartagram tie on.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:36:23
Quote from: Fwiffo;250683
If the guy is a suicide bomber, and really wants to get explosives past security, why not stuff THEMSELVES full of explosives? Or stuff their kid full of explosives. Are we going to subject ourselves to body cavity searches to prevent butt-plug bombers?


Quote from: wellington1869;250717
um, thats what the scans are for, Einstein.


Solution:

1. Stuff butt full of explosives.
2. Opt out of backscatter scan.
3. Get balls touched.
4. Prophet.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:36:47
Welly, if you're not a troll and other people are, why is it that you only spam the Off Topic part of the forum and don't actually discuss anything useful about keyboards, ever?

****in' logic! How does it work?
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Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:42:33
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 14:42:58
LOL, you don't even know what the new devices are for. The new scanners CAN'T detect things inside your body (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2010/1122/Video-TSA-chief-rules-out-body-cavity-searches). They can only detect objects you're carrying near the surface of your body. And since you can opt out of the scan and go for a pat-down instead, you could avoid them even if they could see explosives hidden in a body cavity.

You won't be happy until we live in a police state. Would you submit to body cavity searches? Would you accept new rules that prevent you from carrying any electronic devices in your carry-on? Rules that prevent you from carrying prescription drugs? From having any carry-on at all? Would you submit to being shackled while you fly?

If not, then the only difference for you is where you draw the line.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:02:11
Quote from: keyboardlover;250725
Welly, if you're not a troll and other people are, why is it that you only spam the Off Topic part of the forum and don't actually discuss anything useful about keyboards, ever?

****in' logic! How does it work?


its called off-topic for a reason, genius.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:03:46
Quote from: Fwiffo;250732
LOL, you don't even know what the new devices are for. The new scanners CAN'T detect things inside your body (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2010/1122/Video-TSA-chief-rules-out-body-cavity-searches). They can only detect objects you're carrying near the surface of your body. And since you can opt out of the scan and go for a pat-down instead, you could avoid them even if they could see explosives hidden in a body cavity.

You won't be happy until we live in a police state. Would you submit to body cavity searches? Would you accept new rules that prevent you from carrying any electronic devices in your carry-on? Rules that prevent you from carrying prescription drugs? From having any carry-on at all? Would you submit to being shackled while you fly?

If not, then the only difference for you is where you draw the line.


dude, have you even seen the new xray machines? They can tell how big your penis is.  Thats whats got people in a huff. And yea, it'll definitely tell whats hidden inside your body.  The thing that people are worried about is that their nekid pics are going to wind up on the internet. Thats a legitimate concern and should be addressed - and thats the solution, not getting rid of the scans altogether.

You wont be happy until we have another attack and then you'll figure out a way to blame US for it.  Typical.  And totally unhelpful.
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:10:53
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dude, have you even seen the new xray machines? They can tell how big your penis is. Thats whats got people in a huff. And yea, it'll definitely tell whats hidden inside your body.
No they cannot see inside of you. The whole point of backscatter x-rays and what makes them different from regular x-rays (and the part they're using to claim that they're safe) is that they pass through clothing but bounce off of skin. If they could see through your skin, they would show your internal bits, instead of your naked body. And again, even if they DID show objects inside your body, they'd still be useless because you can opt for a pat-down instead.

You didn't answer my question. If they told you it'd be safer if you had no carry-on, or you were body-cavity searched, or flew shackled, would you do it?

Can you feel the freedom? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40320562/ns/travel-news/)
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Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his abdomen. An msnbc.com story on Saturday detailed Sawyer's Nov. 7 experience flying from Detroit Metropolitan Airport to Orlando, Fla., to attend a wedding. Sawyer said he was ‘humiliated’ after an enhanced pat-down procedure broke the seal on his urostomy bag and left him soaked in urine.

He said he tried to warn the security officer that “he would hit the bag and break the seal on my bag, but he ignored me. Sure enough, the seal was broken and urine started dribbling down my shirt and my leg and into my pants.”
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:13:55
Quote from: wellington1869
its called off-topic for a reason, genius.


There's also a reason why it's not called 'Welly's Troll-baiting Kingdom of Lameness"
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:27:33
Quote from: Fwiffo;250749
No they cannot see inside of you. The whole point of backscatter x-rays and what makes them different from regular x-rays (and the part they're using to claim that they're safe) is that they pass through clothing but bounce off of skin. If they could see through your skin, they would show your internal bits, instead of your naked body. And again, even if they DID show objects inside your body, they'd still be useless because you can opt for a pat-down instead.

if they cant see inside you then I fail to see what the complaint is about. And i'd urge the TSA to get something that can see inside you.

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You didn't answer my question. If they told you it'd be safer if you had no carry-on, or you were body-cavity searched, or flew shackled, would you do it?

the answer is: if they had reasons to do it and made those reasons public (as they do now), then yes, i'd be for it. Why wouldnt I be? What, do I have a deathwish? No, I do not. Thats why i'd be for it.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:34:06
Eventually, Welly will be the only one on the airplane.

...and then he'll complain that he's lonely :(
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:39:20
Quote from: wellington1869;250754
if they cant see inside you then I fail to see what the complaint is about. And i'd urge the TSA to get something that can see inside you.

The point is that people don't want strangers looking at them naked and don't feel they ought to submit themselves or their family to a sexual assault just to fly.

Scanners exist that can see inside you (you've probably seen them - they're called x-rays). The reason they don't use them is because they cause cancer. Ever notice how the x-ray tech covers your chest with a lead blanket and leaves the room when you get your teeth x-rayed? There are unanswered questions about the health risk of these back-scatter scanners too.

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the answer is: if they had reasons to do it and made those reasons public (as they do now), then yes, i'd be for it. Why wouldnt I be? What, do I have a deathwish? No, I do not. Thats why i'd be for it.

Would you like your car searched every day? Would you like a body cavity search before you go for a drive? Car bombs are much easier to pull off and much more common than hijackings.

I think you really would be happier in a police state. Maybe you should consider moving to one and leave this one to people who value at least some measure of freedom.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:41:20
Quote from: kishy
See, that's the thing...air travel is not some necessity of life, and as such it doesn't need to be easy or convenient. It can be secured to the point of it being genuinely difficult to access.)


Tell that to every company in the world that does business globally. Tell that to people who need to fly in order to visit loved ones that are far away. Unfortunately, air travel HAS become a necessity of life for many people. And unfortunately it also SUCKS now more than ever.
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:47:28
You'd visit a relative in hospice via teleconference?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 15:52:58
Quote from: Fwiffo
You'd visit a relative in hospice via teleconference?


Or acquire a company in a foreign country???
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:02:18
And what exactly is unethical about purchasing a company in a foreign country?

And, aside from that example, do you have any idea how many consultants need to travel globally? Do you have any idea how big the demand is for global consultants?

Do you have any idea how many people work and live in countries which are not their homeland? For which air travel is often the only reasonable way to visit their parents, brothers, sisters, etc.??
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:05:12
Quote from: kishy;250759
Nah, I'd be on the plane too (if I felt the need to travel somewhere. See, that's the thing...air travel is not some necessity of life, and as such it doesn't need to be easy or convenient. It can be secured to the point of it being genuinely difficult to access.)


exactly. thats how it is in israel from what i hear. and for good reason. All thats happened is that now israel's woes are the world's woes, and so israel's security practices necessarily are finding a place around the rest of the world.  Its not a big deal at all. I agree that flying is a privelege and not a right. The company and the govt have a responsibility to make it secure for others.  If that means patting you down, deal with it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:06:14
I still don't think 95% of flying could easily be skipped. Most people fly to visit relatives during the holidays, and I don't think teleconference is a good substitute. Maybe it would work for the airing of grievances, but certainly not the feats of strength.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:09:21
Quote from: wellington1869;250775
...Its not a big deal at all. I agree that flying is a privelege and not a right. The company and the govt have a responsibility to make it secure for others.  If that means patting you down, deal with it.
Why don't you feel that way about driving, which is many times more dangerous than flying? Terrorists use car-bombs much more often than bombing planes.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:10:50
Quote from: Fwiffo;250761
The point is that people don't want strangers looking at them naked and don't feel they ought to submit themselves or their family to a sexual assault just to fly.

i'm sorry but if thats 'sexual assualt' to you, i suggest you talk with someone who's actually been sexually assaulted.  
typical hyperbole, isnt it? The kind that gives us liberals a bad name? Thanks for continuing to give us a bad name.

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Would you like your car searched every day?

if i daily take my car onto an airplane, then yes, of course.

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Would you like a body cavity search before you go for a drive?

if the general public can get into my car, and cars are known to be targeted by suicide bombers posing as innocent passengers, then yes, of course. Why wouldnt I?

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I think you really would be happier in a police state.

i think you'd be happier in an anarchic state in which everyone just kills each other with abandon cuz they're "free".

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dude, you're the one who wants an Maybe you should consider moving to one and leave this one to people who value at least some measure of freedom.

what you value is not freedom. I dont know what it is, but it sure aint freedom. Freedom isnt free, its a right earned with accompanying responsibilities. You want the former without the latter. That makes you bat**** insane in your political values. Basically. Either an anarchist posing as a liberal, or a fascist posing as a liberal.
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:13:34
Quote from: Fwiffo;250779
Why don't you feel that way about driving, which is many times more dangerous than flying? Terrorists use car-bombs much more often than bombing planes.


see answer in previous post. First off car bombs are far more limited in the damage they can do in comparison to flying planes into 100 story buildings. SEcond, there ARE precautions being taken for cars, such as 'no drive' perimeters around buildings. Third, we havent yet seen a spate of car bombings (times square attempt not withstanding) and i expect more policies if that ramps up. Fourth, if the public boarded my car, then I would expect the goverment to expect me to take the same precautions.  If buses are targeted as a matter of course in this country, i'd expect some kind precaution before boarding a bus too. or a train. Its the same thing. I'd expect - and want - such precautions. Why wouldnt you?
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:26:27
Terrorists can fill a car with bombs, drive it into a crowded area and then blow it up. They do that all the time! The first attack on the world-trade center was a truck bomb. The Murrah federal building was destroyed by a truck-bomb. Hundreds of people are killed by car-bombs! It's way easier than getting a bomb onto a plane, even under pre-9/11 security, and the damage can be just as devastating. Subways were targeted by al-Qaeda in Madrid and London, killing dozens. Sarin gas was used by a cult on a Tokyo subway. Do you take the subway?

You used examples of suicide bombers acting in war zones (e.g. your dog-bomb example) to justify security measures here. Do all the car bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan, which have at times killed hundreds of people, justify screening of cars and busses and trucks in American cities?

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Either an anarchist posing as a liberal, or a fascist posing as a liberal.


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Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:26:35
I am a strong supporter of increased flight security.

There should be a set of requirements across the board such as:
-All plane tickets must be booked four weeks in advance.
-Any person flying must have a background check.
-Any person from certain countries: i. e. Syria, Yemen, Iran, etc. must be put through further scrutiny
-Everything going on planes to and/or from those nations and the U. S. must be scanned for explosives
-Any person flying internationally must go through a body scanner and be sniffed over by bomb-sniffing dogs.

The people who are terrorists and blowing up planes are also of a distinct heritage. I would encourage profiling here, even if ACLU doesn't agree. What you would rather have? Scan the grannies or scan the terrorists?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:58:08
What if the terrorists are grannies?

(http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/grannies.jpg)

Really messed up movie, btw.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 16:59:36
(http://i.imgur.com/nmPvv.gif)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 17:47:17
There are A LOT of people whose job requires > 75% travel, including airfare travel. I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about in that regard. Anyway, it really doesn't matter how often you travel or not right? Every person is subject to the same thing.
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Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 17:53:40
although extremely rare, plane crashes are scarier than car crashes.

that is all :)
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Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 18:38:57
Quote from: msiegel;250827
although extremely rare, plane crashes are scarier than car crashes.

that is all :)


yup, and there are a lot of other differences that reasonable people take into account. Such as the fact that once you're up in the air, you're in an isolated environment (to put it mildly).  THis means if you can secure what gets on it, you can be reasonably safe from terrorism for the duration of the (usually quite long) trip. Since that is something that it is feasable to secure on the ground before takeoff, it makes all the sense in the world to do it.

ANd it makes NO sense to oppose it, especially on false analogies to cars, which are a very different environment to begin with.  And even if you couldnt secure it on cars - so waht? does that mean you have to STOP securing it on planes? Wheres the ****ing sense in that?

This is what i dont get with these straw man arguments ffwifo is floating. I'm just really glad he's not in charge of anyone's security. ANd if he is, god help them.

First off he wants to blame the victims. Second he wants to BE a victim. Its the ultimate self-hating-liberal syndrome. You see it so commonly these days. The idea is that some kind of moral high ground is secured if you take all the blame upon yourself.  Great - and do it on your own man, dont take the rest of us down with you!

You can go out into the middle of traffic, stand there and get hit by a bus, and die imagining yourself to be a frickin' SAINT! ;)  At least in that scenario you wouldnt force me to go down with you.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 18:44:30
I still like the idea of you moving to England.
...and also being banned from Off Topic.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 18:48:21
fwiffo, you also dont seem to realize that terrorism is a global problem now, not just a middle eastern problem. Its actually really retrograde of you to keep placing terrorism in the middle east alone. Almost like racial profiling on your part.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 18:52:54
At least if you move to England you won't have to worry and complain about Crazy Americans anymore...

...you'll be too busy worrying and complaining about crazy English folks!

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/6/1/129198586318201248.jpg)
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Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 18:58:50
You can't outrun a car-bomb explosion any more than you can get off a plane mid-flight. Statistically, you're much more likely from a terrorist attack on the ground than one in the air. Yet we don't engage in these kinds of searches in other many other places that are at risk. You don't have to go through a backscatter x-ray when entering a shopping mall, or getting on the subway, or entering a crowded public area.

I don't oppose reasonable measures to secure airplanes. I oppose unreasonable, ineffective ones. Taking off my shoes for airline security is annoying, but I don't have a problem with it, because it's merely an inconvenience. I haven't seen any convincing argument that these machines are effective or reasonable. The items they're looking for that pose a threat could easily be detected by other existing, less invasive means, such as explosive sniffing dogs and machines, metal detectors, etc.

The difference between myself and someone like Microsoft Windows on this topic is a matter of degree. I would agree broadly with many of his ideas of what is reasonable airline security, and disagree with a few on practical and philosophical grounds, but I'm sure he would find many hypothetical measures unreasonable.

Wellington, on the other hand, would submit himself to any restriction or humiliation if the government said it was necessary. He's said that he would accept body cavity searches, or being shackled during the flight would be reasonable, if the government said it would prevent a terrorist attack. And he seems to think his point of view is a liberal one.

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"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country."

    -- Hermann Goering, second in command of the Third Reich


That's right, I'm going the full Godwin.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:02:31
Quote from: Fwiffo

Wellington, on the other hand, would submit himself to any restriction or humiliation if the government said it was necessary. He's said that he would accept body cavity searches, or being shackled during the flight would be reasonable, if the government said it would prevent a terrorist attack.


I seriously hope that happens to Welly one day. Karma is a BEE-ATCH :D
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Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:04:17
if the goal *were* to save lives, we'd put our resources toward more-low-hanging fruit such as disease prevention, instead of trying to stave off unlikely hostile acts.

i for one, hope no one is further inconvenienced or manipulated :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:07:51
Quote from: Fwiffo;250862
You can't outrun a car-bomb explosion any more than you can get off a plane mid-flight. Statistically, you're much more likely from a terrorist attack on the ground than one in the air. Yet we don't engage in these kinds of searches in other many other places that are at risk.

this is precisely what i dont get in your DAFT argument. You're argument boils down to this: Its harder to protect you in a car, therefore we WONT protect you in a plane, even tho we COULD.
Again: Really glad you're not in charge of my security man.

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I don't oppose reasonable measures to secure airplanes. I oppose unreasonable, ineffective ones.

there's no evidence that these new measures are ineffective, on the contrary, i think they're probably highly effective, based on new techniques and attempts that terrorists have made in trying to board planes or get bombs on planes.
maybe its just that you're truly not keeping up with whats going on in the world.

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Wellington, on the other hand, would submit himself to any restriction or humiliation if the government said it was necessary. He's said that he would accept body cavity searches, or being shackled during the flight would be reasonable, if the government said it would prevent a terrorist attack.

another ffwifo-straw-man. Thats not what i said at all; i said if the govt explains its reasoning and if that reasoning makes sense in light of what we know in the public shere about terrorist techniques. And in fact that is what the new measures abide by.
However, the way you put it allows you to continue preaching anarchism against reason, so yea, you'll stick with that.
Nothing like an old fashioned straw-man-burning!

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And he seems to think his point of view is a liberal one.

and you seem to think your straw men are thinking.

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That's right, I'm going the full Godwin.


no surprise there, you've already proven yourself the hyperbole-king.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:14:44
Hey, you never answered my original question!
Do you ever discuss keyboards here anymore?

(Oh wait...he didn't answer it because it had something to do with keyboards. No wonder.)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:16:12
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Hey, you never answered my original question!
Do you ever discuss keyboards here anymore?


yes, in the hundreds of other threads going on on this forum right now. Why arent you over there?

click on "keyboards" rather than "off topic". You'll find it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:17:08
this is the area where we can type mindlessly, to receive pure enjoyment from our keyboards ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:17:10
Quote from: wellington1869
yes, in the hundreds of other threads going on on this forum right now. Why arent you over there?


Name one that you posted in today.

EDIT: Just checked your posts (http://geekhack.org/search.php?searchid=829986). You haven't said jack squat about keyboards in weeks, at the very least!

The proof is in the pudding, the secret's in the sauce.
Exposing Welly's troll-iness...

...so easy a caveman could do it.

(http://astroguyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/abc_geico_caveman_big.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:24:01
You already accused me of being a fascist or an anarchist (not sure which), so you went both ad hominem and straw man long before me. You're either a troll, or mentally ill. I'm thinking borderline personality disorder.

Quote from: Barney Frank
Ma'am, trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to argue with a dining room table; I have no interest.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:25:04
welly likes this community. we have interesting people here :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:30:13
Quote from: Fwiffo;250886
You already accused me of being a fascist or an anarchist (not sure which), so you went both ad hominem and straw man long before me. You're either a troll, or mentally ill. I'm thinking borderline personality disorder.

Hey, if you can't handle a little anal probing to make everyone else feel safe, you're clearly an anarchist fascist.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:34:09
Well, he used to spam us with different threads about every little thing that annoyed him. 'What's today's rant' is obviously an effort to condense all the whining and trolling into one mega thread. To that end, I guess Welly has succeeded. Unfortunately, it seems to really be the only reason he still participates on this board.

Also, FWIW, he once THREATENED me in a PM. True story.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:43:55
Like any type of security, airport/aeroplane security is a constant cat and mouse game - there's no real progress in it because the advance in technology and methods for the good guys only serves to offset the advance in technology for the bad guys. The net effect is that airport security is getting more and more intrusive and inconvenient for passengers as time goes on.

Now, I'm not saying that this is not necessary, but I do wonder, will it ever reach a point where it becomes unfeasible to allow public air travel, or at very least it becomes such an inconvenient thing to do that almost no one will want to do it?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 19:52:19
the idea of reducing travel waste by inconveniencing and scaring the population also makes good fuel for a conspiracy theory :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Mon, 22 November 2010, 20:11:06
IMO, the best way to deal with the negative externalities of flying should be pricing them into the cost of the ticket, e.g. through a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 22 November 2010, 20:11:55
it could get pretty expensive!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 22 November 2010, 21:48:11
Quote from: Fwiffo;250886
You already accused me of being a fascist or an anarchist (not sure which), so you went both ad hominem and straw man long before me. You're either a troll, or mentally ill. I'm thinking borderline personality disorder.


lol, and you accused me of wanting a police state. Just tryin' to keep up with ya man.

KBL: why you should care this much about which threads I'm posting in today, is beyond me. Sounds a little stalker-ish, doesnt it?  If you dont like this thread honestly go post in the ones you like. Its a free country. And GH has an off-topic section for our enjoyment.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 23 November 2010, 00:22:23
no one said the terrorists win when we have have TSA pedo happy aholes happily strip searching a 5 year old.
They won, it might have taken 9 years for us to become this delirious but they've won, terrorism isn't about dieing on an exploding airplane everyday, it's the threat of it.

Plus we forget one crucial fact. I can guarantee that in the next 50 years there will never be a successful terrrorist hijack, because ppl will just mutter 9-11 throughout the cabin and those terrorists will be dog meat. Unless of course they hijack a mostly non American plane.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 06:28:11
Quote from: wellington1869

KBL: why you should care this much about which threads I'm posting in today, is beyond me. Sounds a little stalker-ish, doesnt it?  If you dont like this thread honestly go post in the ones you like. Its a free country. And GH has an off-topic section for our enjoyment.


Dude, you avoid direct questions worse than a politician! Just tell us all why you only post in off topic! Is your life really that exciting that you participate in a forum about computer keyboards, only to abuse its OFF TOPIC section for your own personal amusement? You seem like a real winner to me bro.

(http://www.techpluto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-child1.jpg)

And the thruth is that you really haven't said **** about keyboards in weeks and you know it. You are the TRUE definition of a troll. You only post here for your own amusement. Admit it!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Tue, 23 November 2010, 09:35:12
Julle, you're right - stealing focus is intolerable. Firefox has this wonderful bug where after some actions on a page you can't use keyboard anymore for navigation. All the joy of software.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Tue, 23 November 2010, 10:41:15
Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Lightroom is awesome. Flash is ****.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: maclover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 11:04:51
If you aren't comfortable being molested by a federal employee or being blasted by radiation maybe you should take the train oh wait you're in America - not China where they actually have trains.

China's Incredible 5 Year Train Run Makes America Look Third World (http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/11/21/chinas-incredible-5-year-train-run-makes-america-look-third-world)

China Wins Again!

(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-2/mao-zedong.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 11:10:43
That's because they spend more money on high speed trains than their people. Spend a year living in China, and then tell me which country is more developed.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 23 November 2010, 11:45:37
isn't china gonna spend 100billion for universal health care?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 11:54:25
Will that stop people who work daily 15 hour shifts assembling electronic devices from committing suicide (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37354853/ns/business-world_business) because they feel that their lives have no dignity or meaning?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 23 November 2010, 12:04:39
Quote from: keyboardlover;251244
Will that stop people who work daily 15 hour shifts assembling electronic devices from committing suicide (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37354853/ns/business-world_business) because they feel that their lives have no dignity or meaning?

that's why foxconn installed suicide nets, so they can catch the employees!


hmmm how do i embedd youtube?

this is why chinese factory workers go all suicidal.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 12:07:56
Quote from: Lanx
that's why foxconn installed suicide nets, so they can catch the employees!


Lol brilliant!

[high expectation asian foxconn manager]
"What you doing hanging in net? Get back to work lazy!"

(http://images2.memegenerator.net/File/1436.jpg?imageSize=Large)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 23 November 2010, 12:11:48
As much as I loathe getting back to the idiots at TSA, I stumbled across this today and found it hilarious (fast forward to the 1 minute mark to get past the annoying woooooing):


So, we're spending billions on machines that give us a false sense of security, violate our dignity and privacy, but don't actually work.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 23 November 2010, 13:54:08
i too hate focus-stealing applications. with a passion.

KBL: admit it, 95% of your posts are about following me around asking me why I posted what I did. Admit it!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 13:54:40
Damn. I had hoped you were gone for a while...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 23 November 2010, 13:59:32
Quote from: wellington1869;251366
i too hate focus-stealing applications. with a passion.

KBL: admit it, 95% of your posts are about following me around asking me why I posted what I did. Admit it!


i'd say only about 20% if even that, the rest is pretty much in the keyboard section.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mike on Tue, 23 November 2010, 14:30:57
Quote from: keyboardlover;250860
At least if you move to England you won't have to worry and complain about Crazy Americans anymore...


But it's so much fun poking fun at Crazy Americans :)

Quote from: keyboardlover;250860

...you'll be too busy worrying and complaining about crazy English folks!


If the gnome guys worry you, just wait until you meet the Morris Men !!

Back to our topic - the off topic topic that is ... terrorism:

It's interesting to note that by far the most effective security measure is proactive intelligence gathering. Far more terrorist plots have been stopped early on, than have ever been stopped at the security barrier at an airport. Almost every measure taken at the airport is done as a reaction to previous incidents; perhaps it's a little extreme to call them knee-jerk reactions, but there's certainly no harm in calmly re-assessing the measures to see if they're all appropriate.

For instance it was always a little draconian to ban all liquids on flights; it would have been perfectly possible to ban all liquids of unknown origin whilst allowing people to buy and carry on drinks (or indeed fill bottles of tap water).

Security scans are more than a little invasive, and I normally insist on being bought dinner before being groped like that[0]. It's a tricky issue, because security like this probably won't stop much as the terrorists will be aware of the procedures and work around them, but without these measures the terrorists will find things easier.

It's easy to concentrate too much on the possibilities of aircraft after events like 9-11, but there are other avenues of attack for the terrorist. Indeed aircraft are a relatively rare method of attack, and theoretically not the most lethal either - imagine a chemical attack on a crowded sports stadium.

For those who believe that simple racial profiling is good enough, bear in mind that not all terrorists look like Osama on a bad hair day. There are plenty of people from Islamic countries that wouldn't rate a second glance in a racist crowd - I personally know someone from Egypt who looks as much a white Anglo-Saxon as I do. Besides which terrorists have been known to use proxy bombers (such as the IRA) - it's not too much of a leap of imagination to see that unknowing proxy bombers could be arranged in a world where people have taken money to act as drugs mules.

It's also a good idea to keep a sensible sense of proportions about all this - statistically you are more likely to get killed in a traffic accident on the way to the airport than blown up in a plane. That's not an argument for doing nothing though.

0: Departing from Zaragossa, Spain some years ago. The security people were a bit twitchy and very thorough. I don't know how attractive TSA may be, but this Spanish security guard was pretty hot - difficult to get too excited with someone pointing their SMG at you though. The day after I left, ETA lobbed a grenade onto the runway.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 23 November 2010, 14:44:57
Quote from: mike;251403

0: Departing from Zaragossa, Spain some years ago. The security people were a bit twitchy and very thorough. I don't know how attractive TSA may be, but this Spanish security guard was pretty hot - difficult to get too excited with someone pointing their SMG at you though. The day after I left, ETA lobbed a grenade onto the runway.


TSA are the ugly of the ugly and when you do get groped you get groped by the same gender, police rules apply.
(http://www.tsapics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/tsa4.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 23 November 2010, 17:03:05
Quote from: Lanx;251376
i'd say only about 20% if even that, the rest is pretty much in the keyboard section.


lol!  So lanx thinks a full 20% of kbl's posts are about following me around.  Nice. 1 in 5 of kbl's posts is about me. Um, thats kind of a lot, Lanx.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 17:15:00
Oh...you're still here?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 23 November 2010, 17:52:11
Quote from: keyboardlover;251497
Oh...you're still here?


i dont get it. why wouldnt i be? its my thread. was I supposed to go somewhere? you're not even making sense in your trolling. most trolls atleast follow some kind of logic man. whats up with that?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 18:43:35
Oh, I just assumed you might have joined a different forum where you could troll all you want. Maybe a forum dedicated to whining and complaining? You know, since I already proved that you provide nothing useful here.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 23 November 2010, 19:03:45
ok, its official, KBL obviously has a man-crush on me.

rant: baby-trolls who have man crushes on me.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 23 November 2010, 19:14:34
(http://images2.memegenerator.net/High-Expectations-Asian-Father/ImageMacro/3505517/MediumThumbnail.jpg?instanceText=its-the-holidays-why-arent-you-studying)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 24 November 2010, 13:39:41
i can't mod this weekend, long holiday week! and my kitchen table... is now a kitchen table lol needed kitchen space for the food prep for tomorrow(plus i don't think ppl would like turkey breast and solder). (guess i could try to mod on my coffee table)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 24 November 2010, 13:50:42
Sarah Palin today urged Barack Obama to stand by America's North Korean allies. Clearly this woman's refreshing stance on world views will help her bring about world peace if she becomes president.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 24 November 2010, 13:53:56
Quote from: ch_123
Sarah Palin today urged Barack Obama to stand by America's North Korean allies. Clearly this woman's refreshing stance on world views will help her bring about world peace if she becomes president.


Obama is already standing by America's North Korean allies so...what's your point?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 24 November 2010, 13:56:09
I still haven't managed to win anything on Amazon.co.uk lightning deals. :(
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 24 November 2010, 14:05:50
Quote from: keyboardlover;251911
Obama is already standing by America's North Korean allies so...what's your point?


I guess most Palin supporters have properly only ever heard of Alabama, Texas, and Vietnam, so the joke may just be lost on you.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 24 November 2010, 14:13:44
Quote from: ch_123
I guess most Palin supporters have properly only ever heard of Alabama, Texas, and Vietnam, so the joke may just be lost on you.


Well I don't know much about Sarah Palin, but I do know that those are the only 3 states that I recognize!

Hey, where is Ireland exactly anyway?

Meanwhile, in Ireland...
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs078.snc3/14535_1296342211411_1316020521_845421_1697070_n.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 24 November 2010, 14:44:10
Quote from: ch_123;251907
Sarah Palin today urged Barack Obama to stand by America's North Korean allies. Clearly this woman's refreshing stance on world views will help her bring about world peace if she becomes president.


omg thats freaking hysterical.

Quote from: keyboardlover;251911
Obama is already standing by America's North Korean allies so...what's your point?


anyone else notice that for all of KBL's (incomprehensible) whining about OT threads, this thread has become his own personal thread now?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 24 November 2010, 14:56:34
I hear crickets...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 24 November 2010, 14:59:20
Connection errors and timeouts when refreshing geekhack. Anyone else getting these a lot at the minute?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 24 November 2010, 15:00:05
I noticed a couple today. I notice them on and off nearly every day though.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 24 November 2010, 15:01:49
Quote from: keyboardlover;251954
I hear crickets...


i hear kbl over and over...  cant stay away from this thread even to declare crickets.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Wed, 24 November 2010, 17:28:57
This server is probably overloaded. Blame OCN.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 24 November 2010, 18:20:08
Quote from: ch_123;251907
Sarah Palin today urged Barack Obama to stand by America's North Korean allies. Clearly this woman's refreshing stance on world views will help her bring about world peace if she becomes president.
Perhaps the Vietnam War and the Korean War took place before her time, poor thing, and she got the history confused that she learned in school.

Maybe she thinks the South Koreans are still keeping Africans as slaves, which is why the North is on our side.

But we all make little slips of the tongue from time to time. I have no fear that she really regards the DPRK as America's ally and the ROK as America's enemy in her heart of hearts.

Of course, she wouldn't be the first woman who won a beauty contest to have a problem with geography.

Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 25 November 2010, 00:35:56
Quote from: quadibloc;252050



thats one of my fav clips ever.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Thu, 25 November 2010, 13:08:57
Quote from: brian8bit;251956
Connection errors and timeouts when refreshing geekhack. Anyone else getting these a lot at the minute?

 
A lot of database errors just now.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Thu, 25 November 2010, 15:45:15
Quote from: db_Iodine;252343
A lot of database errors just now.


Same. I have similar problems with kbdmania.net as well. It's very slow. Which I think a lot of it is down to the high res images. Image attachments aren't to good for bandwidth. Should really offload them to a dedicated image hosting server to take the strain, maybe something running nginx or lighttpd.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 25 November 2010, 16:05:32
ppl are destroying the internets searching for
"black friday deals"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 25 November 2010, 16:06:27
ppl are destroying the internets searching for
"black friday deals"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 25 November 2010, 16:12:59
ppl are destroying the internets searching for
"black friday deals"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 26 November 2010, 11:59:00
rant: there are too many people in the world. And they all decide to go to macy's at the same time on black friday.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 26 November 2010, 13:29:55
My rant today: The weather outside stinks.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: iMav on Fri, 26 November 2010, 14:46:26
Sorry about the availability and performance issues the last day or so.  The good news is, I've cleared the database of ~3GB of attachments (stored in the filesystem now), which should help quite a bit with performance.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 26 November 2010, 15:24:51
Quote from: microsoft windows;252580
My rant today: The weather outside stinks.


The weather out here is fantastic! 15 inches of snow during the last week and the temperature is hitting -15 centigrade. I'm just happy I don't live in the northern part of Finland where it's reaching -30 centigrade.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 26 November 2010, 15:31:24
Must be summertime there...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 26 November 2010, 15:34:05
It's the coldest November in 100 years.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 26 November 2010, 16:08:31
I'm going to have to cut some money off of my keyboard budget and get me a warm coat.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Fri, 26 November 2010, 16:54:40
Quote from: iMav;252626
Sorry about the availability and performance issues the last day or so.  The good news is, I've cleared the database of ~3GB of attachments (stored in the filesystem now), which should help quite a bit with performance.


It's much more responsive now and I haven't had a connection time out or error. \o/
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Fri, 26 November 2010, 17:40:46
It's from an anime called Jin Roh.

Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Fri, 26 November 2010, 18:22:03
Quote from: ripster;252740
I spent much of the time during "Ghost In The Shell" wondering why only their lips move.

But the lips have so much depth!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 26 November 2010, 21:07:44
rant: so far i've spent $450 bucks on 'upgrades' to my life that i didnt really need. and its only friday! :(
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Fri, 26 November 2010, 21:46:45
would you like the extended warranty on that, it's only another $100
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 26 November 2010, 22:06:51
Quote from: msiegel;252822
would you like the extended warranty on that, it's only another $100


lol. srsly.

Fighting the urge to take a zipcar out to the paramus mall tomorrow.  

This is like the worst possible time to shop anyway.  I visited a Target yesterday and it looked like downtown beirut in there.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 27 November 2010, 19:25:25
Christ, I always knew the UN was useless, but this (http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/4319/18/11/2010/countries-vote-to-accept-execution-of-gays.aspx) is absolutely disgraceful.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 27 November 2010, 19:44:11
Quote from: wellington1869;252831
lol. srsly.

Fighting the urge to take a zipcar out to the paramus mall tomorrow.  

This is like the worst possible time to shop anyway.  I visited a Target yesterday and it looked like downtown beirut in there.


I never partook in any of that Black Friday racket. You all know how interested I am in buying new stuff.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 27 November 2010, 21:02:32
Quote from: ch_123;253147
Christ, I always knew the UN was useless, but this (http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/4319/18/11/2010/countries-vote-to-accept-execution-of-gays.aspx) is absolutely disgraceful.

It passed on a narrow vote of 79 for, 70 against , 17 abstentions and 26 absent.

wtf kind of voting is that? why be a part of a voting org if you abstain from voting? why be absent?
the us should just take over the UN, be like yea we got a big army, and what?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 27 November 2010, 22:38:36
Quote from: ch_123;253147
Christ, I always knew the UN was useless, but this (http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/4319/18/11/2010/countries-vote-to-accept-execution-of-gays.aspx) is absolutely disgraceful.


i agree, its disgusting. one more enlightenment institution is taken over by third world dictatorships.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 28 November 2010, 02:59:16
Quote from: ripster;253213
We're getting tired of turkey leftovers so had Pizza tonight.


Spaghetti and meatballs for me today. I wish we'd celebrate thanksgiving over here. At least I'd get a good reason to cook a good turkey.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 28 November 2010, 09:29:22
i'm still rocking the turkey, 12lbs of turkey eaten by 2 ppl and scraps to a dog!
(i'm asian so i make turkey congee, only asians would understand what i make and think back to yum yum times)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 28 November 2010, 11:13:46
naw he's getting turkey ass/ turkey neck and other various parts.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 28 November 2010, 11:27:41
Quote from: ripster;253213
We're getting tired of turkey leftovers so had Pizza tonight.


we put the rest of the turkey into a 'turkey curry' over rice, came out pretty awesome.  But now we're sick of turkey curry over rice.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:52:17
what! liver and heart are some of the best parts!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:56:58
i usually make gravy with turkey drippings and heart/liver. didn't feel like it this year (turkey's juicy so no need for gravy) so i just poured the turkey drippings for the dog to eat in his bowl. He licked that bowl so clean it was like spit polished.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Sun, 28 November 2010, 14:37:38
When they translate "Dog" to English, as food, they should call it "Useless Dog" instead. That way we feel better about it, plus it's funnier.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 28 November 2010, 19:29:16
Quote from: Lanx;253420
i usually make gravy with turkey drippings and heart/liver. didn't feel like it this year (turkey's juicy so no need for gravy) so i just poured the turkey drippings for the dog to eat in his bowl. He licked that bowl so clean it was like spit polished.


I feed my chicken and turkey guts to my cats. They love it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Sun, 28 November 2010, 22:50:01
I am not only opposed to eating dogs and cats for food, but also to feeding elements from sheep carcasses to sheep or cattle. This is where the BSE problem came from.

Except for fish, which live in their own world somewhat biologically alien from ours, any animal the meat from which is intended for human consumption should be kept on a strictly vegetarian diet. Humans may need to eat meat, but it is dangerous to go any higher on the food chain than you have to.

Men are not vultures, able to cope with arbitrary pathogens in their food.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Sun, 28 November 2010, 22:57:32
Quote from: quadibloc;253650
Men are not vultures


i think you mentioned this line of reasoning before somewhere...
well, +1 to you :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 11:11:13
rant: yea bush sucked ass.
Quote
In December 2005, the Saudi king expressed his anger that the Bush administration had ignored his advice against going to war. According to a cable from the American Embassy in Riyadh, the king argued “that whereas in the past the U.S., Saudi Arabia and Saddam Hussein had agreed on the need to contain Iran, U.S. policy had now given Iraq to Iran as a ‘gift on a golden platter.’ ”


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/middleeast/29iran.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/middleeast/29iran.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 29 November 2010, 11:39:08
Yet if we had gone to war with Iran how would we justify it? By saying they had WMDs? Don't tell me you wouldn't have protested that as well bro :D

Today's rant: hypocrites suck ass.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 29 November 2010, 12:34:55
we should always be at war, since i'm past the age of being drafted!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 12:54:41
Quote from: keyboardlover;253842
Yet if we had gone to war with Iran how would we justify it? By saying they had WMDs? Don't tell me you wouldn't have protested that as well bro :D

Today's rant: hypocrites suck ass.


ah, but we didnt go to war with iran. In fact what the wikileaks cache reveals is just how much the allies including obama sought to avoid that, despite real pressure from the arab countries to do just that.

obama's approach is the right one: carrots plus threats.  We may yet go to war with iran, but it wont be on 'suspicion' of wmd and made-up evidence, bush-style. It'll be based on real evidence and wide-ass coalition including a dozen arab nations themselves fully behind it.

today's rant: straw-man arguments suck ass. bush-style.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 29 November 2010, 16:22:08
Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 29 November 2010, 16:34:23
isn't half a politician's job manipulating the electorate into supporting unpopular actions?

it helps to be a smooth talker, or come up with something scary :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 29 November 2010, 16:54:43
Quote from: wellington1869

obama's approach is the right one: carrots plus threats.  We may yet go to war with iran, but it wont be on 'suspicion' of wmd and made-up evidence, bush-style. It'll be based on real evidence and wide-ass coalition including a dozen arab nations themselves fully behind it.


Oh yea? On what evidence? And who would be behind it besides Us, Saudi Arabia and Israel?

And more importantly, which countries would be against it and condemn it?

Today's rant: people who rant without getting their facts straight.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:34:25
Quote from: microsoft windows;253998
Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.


I can give it to you, but first, give me proof that Santa Claus doesn't exist.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:49:10
Quote from: microsoft windows;253998
Give me proof that Bush lied about reasons to go to war with Iraq and made up evidence. I want real proof, not some editorial from a liberal newspaper.


you mean such as bush's own quotes upstream in this very thread?

or you can read colin powell's own book where he expresses his disappointment in retrospect about the made up wmd evidence - you remember, he was the one who announced that 'evidence' to the UN. And got hung out to dry by the administration over it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:50:40
Quote from: keyboardlover;254019
Oh yea? On what evidence? And who would be behind it besides Us, Saudi Arabia and Israel?

And more importantly, which countries would be against it and condemn it?

Today's rant: people who rant without getting their facts straight.


you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:52:03
rant: styrofoam peanuts suck ass.

not only do they get on the floor soon as you open a package and you have to get on your hands and knees and collect each one individually, thus wasting huge amounts of time, but they're also horrifyingly unfriendly to the environment.

(http://sugarcreekgardens.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/styrofoam_peanuts1.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:07:00
Quote from: wellington1869;254054
you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.


I'm sure a lot of Iraq's neighbors were happy about the US invasion (Iran certainly was) but just got to have their cake and eat it by denouncing American imperialism in public.

Some things never change.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:09:03
No proof yet. Come on guys. I know you all can do better than this.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:10:54
Quote from: microsoft windows;254062
No proof yet. Come on guys. I know you all can do better than this.


dude, you're being like kbl, where when handed confessions from the very people who claimed evidence existed, who now say it didnt, you say thats not proof?

Ch is right, you're basically asking for proof that santa claus doesnt exist at this point.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:11:47
Yeah, I've been waiting for proof of the non-existence of Santa Claus since I was 12 years old... I'm getting impatient at this stage.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:11:57
it would have been so much easier to just fabricate some wmds for public display, like we did with the moon landings ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:12:35
Quote from: ch_123;254061
I'm sure a lot of Iraq's neighbors were happy about the US invasion (Iran certainly was) but just got to have their cake and eat it by denouncing American imperialism in public.

Some things never change.


exactly right -- but as the times article makes clear, Obama's admin was smarter  than bush's this time, insisting that the arab countries go public with their support. Thats smart, and i think, necessary, should we come to blows with iran.

Its very clear how much those arab regimes want to play the 'double game'; on the one hand have america (and israel) do their dirty work for them, on the other hand pretend like they're against it to get street cred with their populations. its complete bull****. Its gotta stop. I was really glad to see Obama's admin put their foot down on that.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:13:09
Quote from: msiegel;254067
like we did with the moon landings ;)


lol, you're not helping ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:16:10
here's something else interesting, for all the huffing and puffing over the stupid-ass wikileaks site, most of the info revealed so far does CREDIT to the west. It shows how much dialogue has gone on behind the scenes, how much cooperation from other countries, and indeed even how much RESTRAINT the west has shown so far in the face of amazing belligerence and real danger by regimes like iran's and north korea's.

it actually makes the western democratic coalition look really civilized. More so than not. I'm glad the stupid wikileaks stuff came out. I have to think the obama admin is secretly pretty happy about it too.

The main story here is how duplicitious the arab regimes have been, if anything, in privately urging israel and the Us to attack iran while publicly being silent about it.

It even shows how Obama was able to get russia and china on board, in a way that bush was totally incapable of doing.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:27:06
Quote from: wellington1869;254064
dude, you're being like kbl, where when handed confessions from the very people who claimed evidence existed, who now say it didnt, you say thats not proof?

Ch is right, you're basically asking for proof that santa claus doesnt exist at this point.


No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:28:47
You should also prove the non-existence of the tooth fairy while you're at it.

Some people say the Jews have been stealing my teeth, but I know it's a fairy!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 19:13:05
Quote from: ch_123;254080
Some people say the Jews have been stealing my teeth, but I know it's a fairy!


i knew it! I always thought it was the gays and not the jews. Why wont they leave my teeth alone!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 19:13:59
Quote from: microsoft windows;254078
No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.


I want you to provide me with direct evidence that you're not a figment of my imagination.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 19:17:51
Make me a sandwich while you're at it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 29 November 2010, 20:38:51
Quote from: wellington1869
you miss the point bro. read the times article i linked, it mentions all the arab countries around iran that were pushing for war against iran. Its a very different thing when we go to war with those countries behind us, for how it appears to the folks in the middle east. Without them, it looks like arrogant american intervention (like iraq). With them it has credibility.


Those same countries were pushing for war with Iraq! Name one of those countries who complained when we went to Iraq!

Tonight's rant: I have an idea for a 'jump to conclusions' mat! It's a mat, with conclusions! That you can jump to!

(http://gesvol.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/jump-to-conclusions.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 29 November 2010, 23:17:08
the second batch of wikileaks documents once again makes the obama admin look pretty good. I cant imagine the admin is anything but happy with these, despite all the complaining.

basically: china is "tiring" of north korea and wants the koreas united under the control of south korea, china wont intervene if the north collapses economically and politically, and china wants the US to have a strong role in the talks between the koreas, and china believes its future lies with its ties to the US, japan, and south korea.

Not bad at all an outcome for Obama, considering the possibilities.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/29/wikileaks.new.documents/index.html?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/29/wikileaks.new.documents/index.html?hpt=T2)

not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 29 November 2010, 23:24:35
Quote from: wellington1869;254199
not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.

Except when it comes to infosec. Maybe we can outsource that to China.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Tue, 30 November 2010, 05:21:09
Quote from: msiegel;254067
like we did with the moon landings ;)


Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Tue, 30 November 2010, 07:13:52
Today's rant: Me being such an idiot

Why did I not pay for a tracked delivery on my new keyboard? Every time our office door opens I get a little rush of excitement because it could be here, which is very quickly followed by disappointment and frustration because it's not! It could be anywhere right now but it feels like the delivery is always five minutes away. I might've saved myself 5% on the cost of my keyboard but the stress is taking hours off my life!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Tue, 30 November 2010, 08:52:43
Rant and it shall appear!  :high5:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 30 November 2010, 08:58:28
Quote from: wellington1869

not only are these "leaks" not damaging, on the contrary, they make our side look pretty good.


L. O. L.

There are hundreds of thousands of documents we're talking about here. Given that I'm sure you haven't read through them, I am confident that you are in no way educated enough to be able to comment regarding whether they make the current administration look good or bad.

Nice try though.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 30 November 2010, 10:46:32
Quote from: ripster;254331
You will find most people's rants are non-important and easy to ignore.  The importance however of nodding your head to your wife to appear like you are listening is not to be underestimated.


I will second this.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Tue, 30 November 2010, 11:15:19
Quote from: ripster;254331
The importance of nodding your head


:nod:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 30 November 2010, 18:26:38
Quote from: microsoft windows;254078
No. I am asking you to provide me with direct evidence and/or proof that George Bush lied/made up evidence/reasons about going to war in Iraq.

You clearly haven't read his [strike]confessional[/strike] [strike]self-aggrandizing[/strike] [strike]revisionist[/strike] autobiography.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Tue, 30 November 2010, 18:33:22
so, while we're still on the topic of airport security scanning machines...

http://cargocollective.com/4thamendment

:D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 14:54:30
today's rant: outlook search BLOWS.  I can *never* find an email I want cuz windows indexer is so damn slow and so damn incomplete. Even in win7, even with a fast computer. It just throttles back at every opportunity and its never ready. Lots of complaints on this online too.

This is the sort of thing that gives MS such a bad name. They finally built a stable desktop search indexer, and then they throttle it back so much its UNUSEABLE.  In the age of instant searches, it does NOTHING, much like the proverbial goggles.

You cant even tell it to index at high speed and come back later. No such option. (yea, third party tools, but again, why were they needed?). Or $40 for Lookeen.

****ing MS.  I want to see MS succeed, and then they do utter crap like this on one of the most widely used features in their software.

Google desktop search doesnt yet support Outlook 2010. SO basically if you have office 2010, you can forget about finding any emails via search. WTF, MS.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 14:55:58
I want to hear about this great job that you are so proud of.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:00:31
Quote from: ch_123;255082
And thus is the comic tragedy of MS - you wish their stuff wasn't ****, but it almost invariably is.


well, to be fair its down to one or two things (tho highly annoying things) now. I'm still not going mac.


bonus rant: People who put "cheers" in their signature and thus sign off every single email with "Cheers".  Its so annoying! So they'll write a serious or sad email, and forget they have that in their email, and still sign off automatically with "Cheers!".  And besides -- if the "Cheers!" is automatically added, does it still have any emotive value? Doesnt it become robotic and lifeless? They dont mean to cheer me at all! And its value is cheapened cuz i know the sender has "Cheered" everyone they ever email, so there's nothing special about me at all!
And lastly, why "Cheers"? What, are we in ****ing England? WTF!  Is that a pathetic attempt to sound sophisticated?!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:03:45
You are literally the biggest whiner I have ever known. You wouldn't last a day where I work - fortunately they don't tolerate that stuff :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:05:47
Quote from: ch_123;255082
And thus is the comic tragedy of MS - you wish their stuff wasn't ****, but it almost always is.


Its worse than just throttling back the search so it never completes indexing. For instance: if outlook program isnt left open, no emails get indexed - period. So you also have to remember to leave outlook running all the time? WTF. Jesus christ that is so ****ing retarded and I dont know why MS does these things with their heads so far up their ****ing asses. Seriously. One single everyday user of Outlook can tell them how incredibly useless and frustrating it is to try to search emails in outlook. One single one. What the **** are they spending their ****ing billions on?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:13:10
Quote from: keyboardlover;255087
You are literally the biggest whiner I have ever known.


There's something ironic about this statement.

Quote
You wouldn't last a day where I work - fortunately they don't tolerate that stuff :D


Mc Donalds?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:14:52
lol
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:18:27
Quote from: ch_123;255098
There's something ironic about this statement.
Mc Donalds?

Nope. Nice try though. Same goes to you too.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:20:02
Is it a gay strip club?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:22:37
:rofl:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:23:25
Quote from: ch_123;255107
Is it a gay strip club?

No its a software company. You obviously wouldn't last a day because you have the maturity and angst of a 15yr old.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:25:18
Dude, you've already managed to become even more annoying than the troll. Get a life.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:27:08
Quote from: keyboardlover;255110
No its a software company. You obviously wouldn't last a day because you have the maturity and angst of a 15yr old.


Yes, clearly I'm so angry and generally emotionally compromised that I have nothing better to do than spend all day telling Wellington how much I hate him at every opportunity.

Is it the company that makes those little animated strippers for people's desktops?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:30:25
Quote from: ch_123
Yes, clearly I'm so angry and generally emotionally compromised that I have nothing better to do than spend all day telling Wellington how much I hate him at every opportunity.


Well at least you've stopped blaming all your life's problems on Catholicism and trashing 9/11. For now at least.

But for the record I still think you're lame as hell.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:26:50
Quote from: wellington1869;255084
bonus rant: People who put "cheers" in their signature and thus sign off every single email with "Cheers".  Its so annoying! So they'll write a serious or sad email, and forget they have that in their email, and still sign off automatically with "Cheers!".  And besides -- if the "Cheers!" is automatically added, does it still have any emotive value? Doesnt it become robotic and lifeless? They dont mean to cheer me at all! And its value is cheapened cuz i know the sender has "Cheered" everyone they ever email, so there's nothing special about me at all!


Same with "Thanks," in every signature and not in the text body.  This is the least sincere "thanks" in the world.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:33:44
thanks and cheers is a lot better than idiots who use scripture as a signature.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:38:28
Quote from: ripster;255161
Conan happy.  Tastes blood.
Show Image
(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/late-night-barbarian-20100510-121945.jpg)
.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:53:00
Ch123 does a great webwit impression. In a good way.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 01 December 2010, 17:34:39
Quote from: ripster;255179
Webwit does a good webwit impression.  However the audience is not clapping at OCN. (http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/876189-mechanical-keyboard-under-40-a-2.html#post11499546)  Instead, I hear the lamentation of women.

Webwit is crushing his enemies, seeing them driven before him, and hearing the lamentation of their women?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 17:45:36
Given some of the people on OCN, Webwit is a necessary evil, and at very least, a source of lulz.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:32:58
Quote from: Lanx;255160
thanks and cheers is a lot better than idiots who use scripture as a signature.


qft

so get this, gang. I just had a beer. with a girl. for 2.5 hours.

apparently this is what happens when you stop buying keyboards.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:52:22
Quote from: wellington1869;255258
qft
so get this, gang. I just had a beer. with a girl. for 2.5 hours.
apparently this is what happens when you stop buying keyboards.


(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/ce/Cool_story_bro.gif)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:53:16
ok, it was two beers. each.

rant: girls dont seem to get drunk on two beers anymore.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:56:18
That's why you add a little rohypnol.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:56:55
Quote from: wellington1869;255273
ok, it was two beers. each.

rant: girls don't seem to get drunk on two beers any more.
Might need to enhance that beer a bit...
(http://www.luxco.com/public/brands/brand_side_nav/bottle21.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:57:20
Quote from: brian8bit;255275
That's why you add a little rohypnol.


Lol, I was just gonna say that...

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/methud/just-kidding-theres-no-candy-jailba.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Wed, 01 December 2010, 19:58:00
Quote from: wellington1869;255273
rant: girls dont seem to get drunk on two beers anymore.

Enduring your presence is a sobering experience.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 01 December 2010, 20:01:15
lol.  i knew i could count on some wholesome geekhack advice.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:11:50
Todays rant: I just overslept big time. I can't figure out how I missed the alarm clock since I'm 100% sure it was on and it's not even near me so I can't just turn it off and roll over. Instead I actually have to get up, walk up to the alarm clock and then turn it off. Good thing is I didn't miss anything important.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 02 December 2010, 05:19:20
Quote from: wellington1869;255273
ok, it was two beers. each.

rant: girls dont seem to get drunk on two beers anymore.


Unless they were some really strong beers, I think it's probably normal that someone wouldn't get drunk off two beers.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 02 December 2010, 07:01:18
You need something like this to get her drunk in two beers:

(http://justbeer.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sierra-nevada-bigfoot-barle.gif)

You better not be telling us about meeting up with your mom for dinner.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 04 December 2010, 15:13:49
Quote from: ripster;252557
I think I'll impulse buy Legos like a good American Consumer.


I'll give you a discount on this Lego set:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13798&stc=1&d=1291497166)
Limited Edition and vintage!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:33:56
ok, all of a sudden, a strange new green square has appeared under my avatar.
cant click on it, but if you hover over it, it says something strange: "wellington1869 is on a distinguished road."

rant: ok, while true enough... wtf is that?!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:36:18
Keyboardlover is also on a 'distinguished road', so I wouldn't read into it too much.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:39:14
Quote from: ch_123;257162
Keyboardlover is also on a 'distinguished road', so I wouldn't read into it too much.


good point. next topic then.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:51:14
Yes. You guys are both on a distinguished road as well.

But you are both unique. Just like everybody else.

(http://www.bsckids.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TROLL-BANK-ALL.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:52:46
12 minutes? Your response time is slipping, bro.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:53:52
Quote from: ch_123
12 minutes? Your response time is slipping, bro.


You ain't my bro, bro.

(http://images1.memegenerator.net/new***-guy/ImageMacro/2806212/He-said-my-story-was-cool-then-he-called-me-bro.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:57:43
Welly isn't going to raeg at himself, get to it!








[size=-2]bro[/size]
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:59:03
WTF are you talking about? No wonder no one can understand the Irish.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 19:01:51
*sighs*

So much angst in this thread.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 19:05:39
True...and 98% of it from two lamers.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 19:42:04
Quote from: ripster
This is just an anthropological experiment.


A little science never hurt anyone.

...riiiiiight?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 04 December 2010, 19:43:38
Quote from: ripster;257196
You get another for that.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to keyboardlover again.

lulz.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:43:36
Hahahahaha the little red button under kbl's avatar now says "kbl has a little shameless behaviour in the past"
Ahahahahaha!

hey how do you do that, what do you click on?  The white scales?

HAHAHAHAHA all this is going to do is we all give each other red marks, lol

Its like someone just handed geekhackers each a banana cream pie - to see how long it takes before we just fling them at each other.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:46:29
Quote from: ch_123;257173
12 minutes? Your response time is slipping, bro.


seriously.  dragged him away from the porn sites.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:52:11
so can you see who gave you what reputation vote?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 04 December 2010, 22:01:48
Quote from: ripster;257281
You  can see the last 5 comments but not the sender.

And if I ever find the ***got that gave me a downvote for "namecalling" I'm gonna be all over his sorry ass.


aw man, imav can you enable viewing sender's name so we can go from banana cream pies to actual stalking and fisticuffs? ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 05:33:51
Quote from: keyboardlover;257184
True...and 98% of it from two lamers.


You and MW?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 05 December 2010, 06:47:38
Todays rant: I have negative reputation.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 07:08:39
Quote from: wellington1869
Hahahahaha the little red button under kbl's avatar now says "kbl has a little shameless behaviour in the past"
Ahahahahaha!


Lol yours says the same thing dumbass! My you're a bright one ;)

Quote from: ch_123
You and MW?


Took you long enough but no, I was referring to you and Welly.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 07:21:13
Shouldn't you be in mass, sonny?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 07:23:17
Quote from: ch_123
Shouldn't you be in mass, sonny?


Actually I got in touch with a priest in your area and told him what you like to do with Welly. He said he'll pay you a visit later ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Sun, 05 December 2010, 08:16:36
Oh ****, a Rep system.
 
1) Hate these things because, over time, people who post the most get repped. Doesn't matter what kinda **** they post, just as long as somebody thinks it's funny.
2) Hate these things even more because, over time, they get inflationary. Bigger Rep means bigger Rep handouts.
0) I'm wondering wtf ... uh, it's not like geekhand is (or much needs to be) tightly moderated anyhow. So what's the grand prize (or motivation) for glorious clean Rep? What's the downside for falling into the pits of disreputable hell?
 
So I'm taking a stand. Gimme negative Rep, please. I'm aspiring to have the lowest Rep this board can possibly offer.
 
[Edit]
 
So Rip, where's this "you can see the last five Reps" thing?  Can't find it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 05 December 2010, 08:36:15
You can find it under User Control Panel front page.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: iMav on Sun, 05 December 2010, 08:37:45
There are no consequences to the rep system other then the color of a dot.  Like I said, I just enabled it for the amusement factor.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 08:54:58
Quote from: db_iodine;257443
todays rant: I have negative reputation.


lol
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:02:30
rant: people who put "trusted geekhacker" in the sig, which just makes them look really desperate to salvage their Gh reputation.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:04:27
Quote from: iMav;257471
There are no consequences to the rep system other then the color of a dot.  Like I said, I just enabled it for the amusement factor.


hahahahaha imav disabled his reputation ;-D hey no fair!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:05:44
Quote from: wellington1869
rant: people who put "trusted geekhacker" in the sig, which just makes them look really desperate to salvage their Gh reputation.


I did that when I was selling some stuff, to show that I had already sold stuff to people who were happy with the experience. You really need to get some brains though. And speaking of GH reputations, should I quote your threats to me again?

:D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:07:26
Quote from: keyboardlover;257483
I did that when I was selling some stuff, to show that I had already sold stuff to people who were happy with the experience. You really need to get some brains though. And speaking of GH reputations, should I quote your threats to me again?

:D


you should put those in your sig, i'm quite proud of them :)  I think that would have a better effect on your reputation than "trusted geekhacker".
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:08:13
Quote from: wellington1869;257487
you should put those in your sig, i'm quite proud of them :)  I think that would have a better effect on your reputation than "trusted geekhacker".


Your wish is my command :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:09:30
:) and the man crush continues... :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:10:58
Quote from: wellington1869;257490
:) and the man crush continues... :)


The one between you and ch_123? Or the unrequited one you have on me?

Edit: I just realized putting you in my sig means that I and other people will have to look at your name a lot, and especially in the keyboard section (which I and others [not you] use). I don't want to turn everyone's stomachs, so I'll just quote you when I feel like it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:20:49
Quote from: keyboardlover;257491
The one between you and ch_123? Or the unrequited one you have on me?

Edit: I just realized putting you in my sig means that I and other people will have to look at your name a lot, and especially in the keyboard section (which I and others [not you] use). I don't want to turn everyone's stomachs, so I'll just quote you when I feel like it.


cool, i hope it will encourage others to send you similar pm's since they were so effective on you.  I'd post your sorry-ass apology that you pm'ed me, except i'm not a baby troll and am not in the habit of posting pm's. But heck, for that reason too I'm glad you do what you do so your retardation is on public display at all times :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:29:37
Quote from: keyboardlover;257491

Edit: I just realized putting you in my sig means that I and other people will have to look at your name a lot, and especially in the keyboard section (which I and others [not you] use). I don't want to turn everyone's stomachs, so I'll just quote you when I feel like it.


I think you chickened out man.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:34:10
"bok bok bokoooook"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:37:28
come to papa
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:42:45
Here was my response to you. If this is what you call a "sorry ass apology", you must be on drugs:

Quote from: keyboardlover

I can tell you two things:
1. I have no plans to pic-spam all your threads
and
2. I'm not afraid of ANYBODY, on the internet or in real life (and there is a difference). If the second part of your message was meant IN ANY WAY as a threat, it means absolutely nothing to me. Period.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:48:24
Quote from: keyboardlover;257508
Here was my response to you. If this is what you call a "sorry ass apology", you must be on drugs:


hahahaha, i see you skipped over your apology. Very selective memory you got there.

Did you mention that you friended me afterwards? Hahahahahahahahaha.

And nope, i'm still not going to post pm's, sorry.  Oh Imaaaav....
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:49:05
kbl, put it in the sig man.  go for it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:52:21
Quote from: wellington1869;257511
hahahaha, i see you skipped over your apology. Very selective memory you got there.

Did you mention that you friended me afterwards? Hahahahahahahahaha.


The only part I skipped over was this. Do you consider this an apology?

Quote from: keyboardlover

Can you quote where I said I would spam all your threads? I only did that once, in your one thread. And quite frankly, I did very funny way, and ONLY for the lulz.


Also, I never ****ing friended you! You tried to friend me and I denied the request. Otherwise, you would show up in my friends which you don't! Are you ****ing high???
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:53:23
thought you said you'd put it in the sig? chickened out?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:55:53
i see your sig is still the same.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:57:36
Quote from: wellington1869;257515
thought you said you'd put it in the sig? chickened out?


Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:57:42
i'm really disappointed that kbl is not a man of his word.

definitely not a "trusted geekhacker".  promises one thing does the opposite.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 09:59:20
Welly, you will never be as awesome as this post:

(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/Images/barack-obama-president-of-awesome.jpg)

(http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/booyah.jpg)

(http://survivalguide.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thats-hot.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 10:00:11
hahahaha, there it is. Not going to pic-spam my threads anymore eh?

not going to follow me around on my own threads anymore, eh?

Yep--- promises one thing, does another.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 10:00:41
and you call yourself a "trusted geekhacker"?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 05 December 2010, 10:28:31
Quote from: wellington1869

Yep--- promises one thing, does another.


The only thing I promised was not pic-spamming ALL your threads. That doesn't mean I won't pic-spam ANY of your threads.

****in' logic! How does it work?

LOL - My last downvote had this as the reason:

Quote
needs to take his fued with that idiot wellington somewhere else
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Sun, 05 December 2010, 11:21:23
Quote from: wellington1869
"bok bok bokoooook"
You make me ****ing laugh, welly.  Gar. :rockon:
 
lol, iMav, thanx for the explanation, geekhack is an anomaly - that's why I keep coming back.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 12:18:54
Quote from: Konrad;257578
You make me ****ing laugh, welly.  Gar. :rockon:
 
lol, iMav, thanx for the explanation, geekhack is an anomaly - that's why I keep coming back.


lol
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 15:14:02
Let's get back to ranting, shall we? (I hate when people bicker instead of ranting. :wink:)

I hate opinionated weather forecasters. Just tell me the weather and don't give your opinion of it, damn it! I love storms. I hate hot, sunny days. I don't want to constantly hear it's going to be "a gorgeous day" on days I'm dying of heat and "we're in for some awful weather" whenever it's cloudy, rains or snows.

And when the hell did every little bit of snow become a "storm"?? Snow is normal precipitation in the winter (at least here in Canada). A "storm" used to be 30cm or more with high winds, causing white-out conditions. Now it's called a "storm" every single time it snows! 2cm of snow is a "storm"?? Give me a frigging break.

I also really really hate how TV news people act like the forecaster is actually responsible for creating the weather - saying things like, "Thanks for that fine weather, Jim" - if it's going to be sunny or, "Try to get us some sun next time, Jim" - if it's not sunny. What the hell? The forecaster doesn't make the weather! What - do they think he can pull the sun out of his ass or something??
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Sun, 05 December 2010, 15:23:23
Weather reports suck. I think the problem is that meteorologists are nerds, and like all other nerds, they can never resist an opportunity to demonstrate and explain their vast expertise on whatever esoteric abstract field they specialize in.  Hot weather chicks make the reports more tolerable, especially the ones who aren't very bright.
 
"So let's take a look at the map and see what the weather is doing in Eastern Canada..." ... um, yeah, like I give a **** what the weather is doing some place (or some twenty places) that are thousands of miles away.
 
My response is more along the lines of: "So let's take a look out the window and see what the weather is doing here".
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Sun, 05 December 2010, 15:23:51
Quote from: mr_a500;257687
What - do they think he can pull the sun out of his ass or something??


That would be a pretty funny green screen trick.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 05 December 2010, 15:37:35
They must think the weather reports and news need to be as entertaining as possible to get even the dumber people to check them out. I usually check the news and weather online, because it's much faster that way, and I also don't have to listen to some ugly people. Too bad we don't have any hot news readers in here.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Sun, 05 December 2010, 16:03:26
 :blank:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Sun, 05 December 2010, 16:11:12
Truth.  I suppose I could've chosen more diplomatic wording.  I've got nothing (well, very little) against Eastern Canada, but yes, I couldn't care less about the goings on of the weather, politics, and sundry gang violence over there.  I wouldn't expect anybody there to care about what's going on in my neighbourhood either.
 
The problem with local news - that is, local news in my locality at least - is that it isn't local at all.  It's national.  In the case of weather it's global (wow, it's snowing in Warsaw, I suppose I'd better wear a heavier jacket today).  As stated above, the news show isn't newsworthy at all, it's just entertainment.  There are better, more accurate and efficient sources for news.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 06 December 2010, 07:33:25
I can see this being a barrel of laughs.  Let's see how fast I can make it to the bottom of the rep system.

EDIT: HA!  I already have a red dot.  Awesome!!!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 06 December 2010, 07:36:51
Ahh... good stuff.

Quote
Over 5,000 Geekhack...   04 December 2010 14:59   Well back in my day, I had to walk 500 miles in order to get to the nearest computer, which was an IBM 5150 hooked up to a 14.4k modem using Internet Explorer 2.0. And in order to buy a keyboard, I had to WALK overseas! Take that!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Mon, 06 December 2010, 12:18:45
Quote from: Konrad;257691
Weather reports suck.

But "Weather Report" rule.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Mon, 06 December 2010, 16:00:39
Quote from: Konrad;257691
Hot weather chicks make the reports more tolerable, especially the ones who aren't very bright.
I recently learned that before Raquel Welch started acting in movies - she was in Fantastic Voyage before One Million Years B.C. launched her to stardom, I also learned - she did the weather for a San Diego television station.

I don't know if any TV station will ever be able to beat that.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Mon, 06 December 2010, 16:21:36
Well, there are these girls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvm5e5tIs0s).
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 06 December 2010, 18:19:06
Quote from: Konrad;258263
Well, there are these girls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvm5e5tIs0s).

The second girl could pass as a really overzealous business casual. This is HIGHLY loose term even for weather girl.

but the first one ... i can't justify. (except of course eyecandy)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Mon, 06 December 2010, 20:46:52
Justify?
 
They may (or may not) be smart enough to know what they're talking about, but they definitely make more people want to watch the weather reports.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: instantkamera on Mon, 06 December 2010, 22:26:41
colds that last for ****ING EVER. Lame.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Mon, 06 December 2010, 22:42:58
People who don't get colds.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Tue, 07 December 2010, 00:14:30
These weather girls get absolutely soaking wet.

Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 07 December 2010, 00:23:17
Quote from: Konrad;258263
Well, there are these girls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvm5e5tIs0s).
Ah, Mexico. A country with simpler tastes - one which, like Brazil, does not believe that it is politically incorrect for men to admire pretty girls!

And, of course, there's that famous Internet news video site that had slipped my mind until your post...

Ah:


the first woman featured in that video is Mayté Carranco, who apparently has quite a following on YouTube. For understandable reasons.

And she is also talented: she can sing -


The weather forecast which features her is El Clima, on the Mexican network MTY.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 07 December 2010, 01:12:22
ugly women who get more airtime than the pretty ones.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Tue, 07 December 2010, 01:28:05
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 07:32:04
Quote from: ricercar;258496
ugly women who get more airtime than the pretty ones.


Yeah, I've been seeing Hillary Clinton on TV a lot after the Wikileaks scandal...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 07:40:17
Quote from: Konrad;258448
People who don't get colds.


I get a cold about once every 10 years. It's easy to avoid colds if you know how.

(I'm not telling)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 07:47:54
I get my flu vaccine every year.  I have only been sick twice in the last ten years, and one of those times was a severe allergy reaction to some crazy ragweed we had growing around here.

You could always become a hermit and avoid all human contact, but since that would include ****ing, I won't be doing that.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:05:44
Well, since you all are talking about it, I guess today's rant will be that awful cold I came down with the other day. I rarely get sick (haven't taken any sick days in years) but the other day I came down with a miserable sore throat and now I've reached the stage where you cough your lungs out.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:14:51
Quote from: ripster;258638
And the Tea Party thought Republicans would bring down the National Debt??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


I'll have to find some hard data (it's been listed here before), but contrary to popular belief, government spending increases more/government gets "bigger" during Republican control and spending increased less/government gets "smaller" under Democratic control.  The Tea Baggers have no idea what they signed up for.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:42:22
I hate non-stop bickering about US politics. "Sarah Palin blah blah blah... Republicans blah blah... Democrats blah blah... deficits blah... health care blah blah... terrorism blah.. security blah... taxes blah blah blah..."

Everybody around the world has to listen to this crap - on top of their own countries' political bickering.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:50:42
Quote from: mr_a500
I hate non-stop bickering about US politics. "Sarah Palin blah blah blah... Republicans blah blah... Democrats blah blah... deficits blah... health care blah blah... terrorism blah.. security blah... taxes blah blah blah..."

Everybody around the world has to listen to this crap - on top of their own countries' political bickering.


You should write letters to your news companies to stop reporting on American politics. I honestly wish more countries would do this - it would almost certainly result in less misinformation about our politics being spread around the world.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:50:52
Sex for money is different story, though.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:51:49
You probably get more accurate coverage from other countries' news than our own.  I know I do from the BBC.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 09:55:36
Quote from: itlnstln;258664
You probably get more accurate coverage from other countries' news than our own.  I know I do from the BBC.

IMHO BBC reports similar stuff to CNN et al.; to me its no better with US politics reporting than what we have.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:05:08
Quote from: keyboardlover;258661
You should write letters to your news companies to stop reporting on American politics. I honestly wish more countries would do this - it would almost certainly result in less misinformation about our politics being spread around the world.


Misinformation? There is certainly more accurate information about US politics outside the US than in mainstream US news. I bet elementary school children in Canada know more about US politics than the average American college student.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:10:51
Quote from: mr_a500
Misinformation? There is certainly more accurate information about US politics outside the US than in mainstream US news. I bet elementary school children in Canada know more about US politics than the average American college student.


Really? How is that? I doubt that very much :D
I have yet to meet a single person from outside of this country who really understand US politics at all. I've taken AP History and US Government classes, so I think I'm fairly qualified to say that. Usually people liken the concepts of 'liberal' and 'conservative' to the forms of those which reside in their own government, which is very different to how those type of folks are in the US.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:16:25
Quote from: ripster;258677
Certainly more than I know about Canada.

Speaking about the Weather.
Show Image
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4948882439_5115303468_z.jpg)

Yes, that's Canada all right. We've got storm troopers, Luke Skywalker and Santa. We usually sit around stiff plastic fires on top of wagon wheels.

Quote from: keyboardlover;258678
I have yet to meet a single person from outside of this country who really understand US politics at all.

I've yet to meet an American who really understands US politics. :wink:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:22:04
Quote from: mr_a500;258684
I've yet to meet an American who really understands US politics. :wink:


I would agree with this statement.  I seriously doubt many US GHers could pass the US history test given to immigrants coming into the country (including myself).  Americans are pretty dumb when it comes to our own governmental affairs.  You can even see it in the way people vote.  Conservative or liberal, how many people do you know vote in their own self interest?  Texas would be a blue state if they did.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:30:22
Quote from: ripster;258687
The one thing I know about Canadians is they tend to be unimaginative.  The creative artistic ones like Justin Bieber all move to the US to become famous.

No, Canadians go to the US because that's where the money is. There's always a huge market of ignorant people ready to buy useless crap.

You think Canadians are unimaginative?? You come up here and see how long you last the winter. :wink:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:33:44
IMO, not all Americans or Candians or anyone else understands their own political systems well, nor do they understand others. It takes formal education to truly understand a political system, plus we have to dodge misinformation, bias and propaganda presented to us from the media every day.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 10:59:27
Quote from: ripster;258698
Meanwhile in Canada.
Show Image
(http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/on-line-exhibits/sports/pics/5717_curling_820.jpg)


OK... I'll let you have that one.

When I first heard of Curling in elementary school, I naturally assumed they meant hair curling. (and likewise assumed that the guys going for Curling were gay)

Broomball kicks ass though.
(http://www.mcgill.ca/files/reporter/3609broomball.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 11:23:41
Quote from: ripster;258722
I assumed most Canadians were gay and that's why you have such an aggressive expansionist immigration policy?


Well, I'm not gay and my wife is an immigrant. (Immigration has allowed me to have a larger range of females to choose from.)

San Francisco probably has more gay people than in all of Canada. New York city probably has more immigrants than in all of Canada.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 11:42:59
New York's probably got more people than all of Canada too.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 11:45:54
Quote from: microsoft windows;258747
New York's probably got more people than all of Canada too.


Ask Google. I did:

Population of NYC:
8,008,278

Population of Canada:
33,739,900
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: db_Iodine on Tue, 07 December 2010, 11:54:05
This situation is getting seriously frustrating here. I ranted about the snowing here in Finland a while back, but now it's a lot worse. It has snowed about 50cm of snow in the last two days, and as it was our independence day yesterday, the snow was just left on the streets.

Today the traffic has been absolutely terrible. I mean you don't want to stop your car uphill, if you still want your car to go forward. This includes traffic lights, where you have to slowly approach the intersection so you wouldn't have to stop.

The second thing is, when you get out of your car to walk that 150m walk to your office. There's 30-50cm of snow EVERYWHERE, so by the time you get to your office your shoes and socks are completely wet, so you get to work barefoot.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 11:56:10
Got the first snow yesterday. About a quarter inch (about half a centimeter).
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 07 December 2010, 13:24:18
Quote from: ripster;258698
Meanwhile in Canada.

my limited understanding of canada history was after the war the french really wanted the carribean since it was where the sugar was produced and sugar was the commodity of the century just like how oil is today. So since britain wanted to gain something the french said, here you can have the big landmass that has no resources and call it canada, we'll take the sugar islands.

so if canada was given up on, why does something like quebec exist? The frenchies didn't want yous why do you still speak the language?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 07 December 2010, 13:31:37
Quote from: keyboardlover;258751
Ask Google. I did:

Population of NYC:
8,008,278

Population of Canada:
33,739,900
On the other hand, California has more people than all of Canada: 36,961,664.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 07 December 2010, 13:44:41
Quote from: ripster;258867
34M Canadians?  

What do they DO up there?
Some of us are not fortunate enough to have been born in a gentle climate. And, of course, we are still much more fortunate than those people born in warm countries that are not wealthy like the United States; despite Mexico having Mayté Carranco, the average Canadian is so much luckier to be living here, with all the cold, than the average Mexican.

In searching for more information on this mysterious weather presenter, I instead found information on the tragic life of a beautiful woman who presented the weather in Atlanta: Dagmar Midcap. Such a lovely woman, and who is her boyfriend? A man so troubled that, sadly, he ended up committing suicide. She ended up leaving Atlanta because it haunted her with too many memories of this.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 13:51:19
Quote from: ripster;258867
34M Canadians?  

What do they DO up there?


i believe they eat snow, ice fish, and stare at each other.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 13:52:22
Quote from: mr_a500;258738
(Immigration has allowed me to have a larger range of females to choose from.)


lets hear it for immigration
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 14:04:52
We can surf up here.
(http://www.malakye.com/uploads/4282.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 14:14:28
What that mag cover doesn't tell you is that the wave is frozen.  Makes for some interesting photos.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: HaaTa on Tue, 07 December 2010, 14:20:25
Snow + Mountain == Awesome

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6WOoTO_7VuQ/S22VPNVzheI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/INwf44XkzS8/s800/%2Fsdcard%2Fdcim%2Fcamera%2F1264829309467.jpg)

Snow + Anything Else == Stupid
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 14:21:08
Snow == Stupid.  FTFY.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 14:57:18
i just noticed that all my positive reps come from posts in which i use cursewords or insults.

lol. so thats the secret.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:04:41
Webwit would have a good time with the new Reputation system then...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:18:00
Quote from: Welly
i just noticed that all my positive reps come from posts in which i use cursewords or insults.

lol. so thats the secret.

I'm still in the ****ing red.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:24:58
Oh, I was making a joke, but MW got in the way.  I clarified it a bit.  I really don't care about reputation. I'm worthless here, and I know it.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:26:54
Quote from: itlnstln;258997
I'm still in the ****ing red.


lol, repped
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:29:03
All my rep is either negative or neutral (including yours).  I'm destined for failure.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:31:24
Quote from: kishy;258961
Funny...we don't get enough snow.

If career prospects weren't so bleak I'd move way further north than I am now.


Exactly. Same here.

Those heat-loving wimps just don't get it. Snow and cold are great! There are no bugs. There is no smog. You can ski (or drive, even) across lakes. Food doesn't spoil. If you're thirsty, you can just eat snow (as long as it isn't yellow). If you get hot, you just open your jacket. If you're cold, just zip up your hood.

The best thing about Canada - the further north you go, the less people there are. The land isn't all "private property", like in the US. It's fairly easy to escape from the hordes of idiots into the blissful peace of silent wilderness.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:39:35
Quote from: ripster;259025
How do you get neutral rep?  I was wondering what the gray  things  were.


I think my positive rep just added +1 to a negative count, and in some count-range (maybe 'zero' count?) it shows up as purple (neutral) ranking.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:41:06
Quote from: wellington1869
I think my positive rep just added +1 to a negative count, and in some count-range (maybe 'zero' count?) it shows up as purple (neutral) ranking.


I can't downvote you on here anymore, so I just mentally downvoted you for saying that.

Hehe...I said "mental"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:42:28
How much "reputation" can you spread around before downvoting somebody twice?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 15:57:00
Quote from: keyboardlover;259042
I can't downvote you on here anymore, so I just mentally downvoted you for saying that.

Hehe...I said "mental"


thats cool, tho just want to point out you're supposed to be mostly just ignoring me :)  I'm not worth any attention, seriously.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:00:17
Actually, I did find out that Mayté Carranco was born on September 4, 1974. Which makes her 36 years old. So even though I couldn't find a reference to her family life, no doubt she does have a husband and children, to the despair of her legions of admirers.

She doesn't have much longer to get that big break, that Hollywood contract...

The TV station which features her is MTY Television, channel 38 in Monterrey. Monterrey is a city in the northern part of Mexico, and it has a lot of industrial activity on behalf of foreign companies like LG and Dell. So if you have a keyboard that was assembled in Mexico, it could well have come from there.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Fwiffo on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:23:42
All my reps are neutral or negative too, even though some of them have positive sounding comments...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:30:36
I don't think anybody here's ever given me positive reputation yet.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:43:10
I notice from a news article at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10783019

that the failure of the Susan B. Anthony dollar didn't cause the United States to give up minting dollar coins. But since Americans prefer dollar bills - so did Canadians, and so our government had to discontinue the dollar bill and the $2 bill to force us to use loonies and toonies - and the political gridlock prevents legislation from being passed to discontinue the dollar bill in the U.S. ... dollar coins are piling up, costing money to store.

And they're also having troubles printing the new, more secure $100 bills, but that's a technical glitch, not a political problem that could be avoided.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:43:55
My funny rep comments today:

(-)
Quote
doucher

(-)
Quote
d'oh

(+)
Quote
I like you


(http://adagiago.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hahaha-lulz.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 07 December 2010, 17:47:25
Quote from: microsoft windows;259128
I don't think anybody here's ever given me positive reputation yet.


you sure about that? ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Tue, 07 December 2010, 18:08:15
Quote from: wellington1869
i believe [Canadians] eat snow, ice fish, and stare at each other.

We also do prank calls to Texas, convincing them that we misdialled a Canadian area code and are really trying to reach a friend who recently had one of these new-fangled phone thingies installed in his igloo.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 08 December 2010, 01:32:00
cable internet out-tage!
options, i can "surf" on the many various neighbors wifi who don't secure their connections and use DSL (i have cable as i said so theirs should still be up).
tether my phone to my computer

who's paranoid enough to still have a landline and 56k?

edit
going with the tethering to phone, thats what i'm doing right now, borrowing neighbors wireless for a few hours is not so "right" and honestly it's slower than my 3g tether.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Wed, 08 December 2010, 02:58:35
Landline can include cable, DSN/DSL, and fiber. I much prefer any of these to WiFi or cellular ... the landline is faster/wider bandwidth, not powered by a dinky battery, isn't subject to radio interference (or radio eavesdropping, if you're one of those paranoid guys), and doesn't apply extra charges (per minute, per minute over the cap, per cubic lightyear if you're roaming/longdistance, per MB transferred up or down, per MB above the cap, per webpage, per ringtone, per spam message, etc etc).  Yes, there's some landline ISPs who'll try to rape you with extra charges; they can blow because there's plenty of alternatives.
 
56K is for losers. Unless you're on the space shuttle, where 56K is cutting edge and really cool. Or you live in some place faraway from civilization that the landline providers still quarantine as a medieval wildlife preserve.
 
Tethering is good for mobility. Tethering is slow, inefficient, and expensive when mobility is not required and landline options are available. Plus if somebody leeches your bandwidth you can just pick up a baseball bat and follow the wire straight to their computer room.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 08 December 2010, 08:53:12
Oh, man! Somebody just put me into the red, calling me a "whiner" in this thread. I'm not a whiner, I'm a ranter!

This just makes me want to rant more. :wink:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 08 December 2010, 09:34:55
Quit whining.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 08 December 2010, 09:42:55
Ach! You! Wha! Who! Hey! Snuh!

(...and after I modded you up into the green... that's gratitude.)

And now, I'll open up with machine-gun fire on all of geekhack:
(http://b.imagehost.org/0703/Machine_20Gun_20Smiley.gif)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 08 December 2010, 11:13:22
I'm not going to whine, but this is a wine I had last week. I was a bit worried about drinking it, because the description didn't sound very promising:
(I underlined the bit that worried me)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13895&stc=1&d=1291828436)

I was right to worry. It was crap. (...and did have a hint of "mouse")
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Wed, 08 December 2010, 11:16:17
That's whatcha get when your Made In China wine label isn't translated properly.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 08 December 2010, 11:37:39
The wine is from Argentina (no idea where the label is from). I would never ever EVER drink a Made in China wine. I did have a Korean wine when I was in Korea. I didn't die, but I didn't live very well either.

Notice how the wine label also says "Will improve age." not "Will improve with age."

I am a bit older than when I drank it, so maybe it worked.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 08 December 2010, 11:41:12
And a bit wiser.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Wed, 08 December 2010, 11:43:57
**** The Beatles and **** John Lennon. The man was a hypocrite and an IRA supporter.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 08 December 2010, 15:06:47
Quote from: keyboardlover;259042
Hehe...I said "mental"


Is mentai like hentai but all in the imagination? Oh, that's an L.

Quote from: wellington1869;258894
i believe they eat snow, ice fish, and stare at each other.


Why would Canadians put ice on fish when they self-store in cold water?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 08 December 2010, 15:17:40
Quote from: ripster;259540
My whine for today is "Why is everybody at OCN doing cutesy Santa hats on their avatars?".
Show Image
(http://www.overclock.net/customavatars/avatar109663_16.gif)

Show Image
(http://www.overclock.net/customavatars/avatar86269_18.gif)

Show Image
(http://wizbangpop.com/images/2009/12/Bin-Laden-Santa-Claus--34807-thumb.jpg)


Oh look! It's Barack Hussein Osama!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 09 December 2010, 00:24:14
beatles suck. last year when beatles rock band was released i was at a dinner with my fiancee's co-workers friends from work. Now these ppl were just downright nerdy. Who actually talks about ST vs SW at a birthday party? Anyway they were like we got rockband beatles! we need ppl to play! (not us, no thank you).
They found out we played guitar hero, but i'm not playing a whole game of beatles music, no way.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Thu, 09 December 2010, 00:27:41
http://www.rathergood.com/chicken
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 09 December 2010, 06:30:49
The Beatles rock. One of my favorite bands of all time.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 09 December 2010, 06:57:08
Quote from: Lanx;259971
beatles suck. last year when beatles rock band was released i was at a dinner with my fiancee's co-workers friends from work. Now these ppl were just downright nerdy. Who actually talks about ST vs SW at a birthday party? Anyway they were like we got rockband beatles! we need ppl to play! (not us, no thank you).
They found out we played guitar hero, but i'm not playing a whole game of beatles music, no way.

"I prefer to hang out on keyboard forums and play all the other garbage music on Guitar Hero"

weak.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 09 December 2010, 08:18:27
ST vs SW is always a valid topic.  Doesn't matter if it's a 9y old or 99y old birthday party. George Lucas Skywalker got to marysue a lightsaber against a big mean black guy, clearly something Freudian happening here.  Kirk got to nail some hawt green *****es, clearly something Freudian happening here.  Yoda get's to Bruce Lee and kick some serious Sith ass and prove that when you're green size doesn't matter.  Picard got to be bald and "make it so" whatever the **** that means.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 09 December 2010, 10:01:32
I don't have any problems getting to geekhack, Ripser.  Your computer must suck.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 09 December 2010, 10:07:38
I'm having all types of problems with GH.  If GH isn't slow, I can't connect at all.  I wonder if it's a DDoS attack from MW's basement.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 09 December 2010, 14:19:43
Today's rant: GeekHack has been EXTREMELY slow all day today. :(
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Thu, 09 December 2010, 16:13:47
God, I hate the Nutcracker Suite. Every time I hear that music, I want to kill an entire orchestra. (especially the flute section)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 09 December 2010, 17:33:08
Yesterday I was having all kinds of delays connecting to GeekHack, so I know there was a problem. Maybe it's collateral damage from all the defenders of WikiLeaks?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 10 December 2010, 04:49:54
Quote from: ripster;260321
ItlnStln goes out with a Ukranian.   They can be real Nutcrackers.


She's a tough *****.  I think it's more a Chicago influence than the Ukranian thing.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 10 December 2010, 04:59:43
I think Chernobyl changed Eastern European genetics to make the women hotter and the men butt-fuglier.

(http://luganskukraine.net/multisite/luganskukraine.net/files/imagecache/full/sites/default/files/ukrainian-girl.jpg)

(http://luganskukraine.net/multisite/luganskukraine.net/files/imagecache/full/sites/default/files/ukrainian-man.jpg)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 10 December 2010, 05:01:29
I agree.  My GF is pretty hot.  Why does that chick have a lens cover?  Just one more thing to move out of the way...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 10 December 2010, 05:03:21
Pics or it isn't true! ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 10 December 2010, 05:14:38
It's true (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=230770&postcount=13).
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 10 December 2010, 05:50:59
You are correct, sir. Well done =)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 10 December 2010, 13:23:00
New rant: I hate when websites "upgrade" and don't test to see if it's totally ****ed up on older browsers - and there's no way to contact somebody to tell them. (and if you do contact them, they don't care)

Auctiva has been giving me an error like this for about 4 months:
Quote
XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=725496&ppid=1122&image=430788972&images=430788927,430788950,430788972,430788995,430789020,430789043,430789071,430789110&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
Line Number 41, Column 48:          if (navigator.appName == 'Netscape' && e.which == 3){


The annoying thing is that most eBay sellers now put only one small preview image on eBay and the rest on Auctiva.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 10 December 2010, 13:25:56
The AmigaOS, while great to be sure, is a little outdated.  Maybe it's time to move to something a little newer.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 10 December 2010, 13:27:46
No, this is on BeOS (Firefox 2). I'll try spoofing and see if that fixes it.

I also keep getting this error:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11281)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 10 December 2010, 13:40:00
Quote from: itlnstln;260828
The AmigaOS, while great to be sure, is a little outdated.  Maybe it's time to move to something a little newer.

Ha! I just tested. It works perfectly on Amiga, using IBrowse. (no spoofing)

The bug must be specific to Firefox 2 or something.

My rant is still valid though. There are hundreds of sites full of bugs (only tested on latest browsers) and sites designed to work only on Internet Explorer.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 10 December 2010, 14:09:34
You can install chrome on linux.  Firefox got ****ty, slow, unstable, unsecure, and bloated after adding too much "IE-compatible" functionality.  Sorta like Adobe Reader these days.  Who uses all that stuff anyways?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 10 December 2010, 15:52:19
Quote from: ripster;260162
Your momma too.

Back to this for a moment.  My team at work is utterly destroying me with Yo' momma jokes, and I've run out of ammo to fire back.
 
Anybody got any good ones?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Fri, 10 December 2010, 16:37:37
Your mom is so fat that she will likely die early of heart disease.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: maclover on Fri, 10 December 2010, 20:06:34
You want to hear a rant?

Try this 8½ hour long rant about the Obama/Republican tax deal: Sen. Bernie Sanders 8 ½ hour speech (http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/12/10/HP/R/41779/Sen+Sanders+Held+a+Tax+Cut+Filibuster.aspx).

He's 69. Could a young whippersnapper like Obama handle an 8½ hour long speech. I doubt it. Kids these days. Get off my lawn!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 10 December 2010, 20:09:50
Quote from: maclover;261069
You want to hear a rant?

Try this 8½ hour long rant about the Obama/Republican tax deal: Sen. Bernie Sanders 8 ½ hour speech (http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/12/10/HP/R/41779/Sen+Sanders+Held+a+Tax+Cut+Filibuster.aspx).

He's 69. Could a young whippersnapper like Obama handle an 8½ hour long speech. I doubt it. Kids these days. Get off my lawn!

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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 10 December 2010, 22:07:14
Don't waste 153 seconds of your life watching that crap, folks.  If I knew any yo momma jokes (beyond the lamers they gave me above), I'd be doing some cuttin' instakam ...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Fri, 10 December 2010, 22:57:15
Yo momma so dumb she use her ironing board for a driveway.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Fri, 10 December 2010, 23:05:04
Yo momma so fat when her pager goes off, people line up with quarters and yell, "HEY, KOOL AID!"
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Sat, 11 December 2010, 04:22:03
Yo momma posts at OCN.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 12 December 2010, 11:19:16
Quote from: Konrad;261128
Don't waste 153 seconds of your life watching that crap, folks.  If I knew any yo momma jokes (beyond the lamers they gave me above), I'd be doing some cuttin' instakam ...


what?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Brian8bit on Sun, 12 December 2010, 11:39:39
****S! ****s everywhere!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Sun, 12 December 2010, 12:37:27
Quote from: brian8bit;261724
****S! ****s everywhere!


With time machines. (http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/****s_with_time_machines/#15416)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 December 2010, 15:14:57
i saw a documentary concerning a british case.
So in the US we address the judge as "your honor", no big deal it's an honor that some kind holds your life in his hands.

But in the UK they go "my lord" talk about servitude.

You UK ppl think you have freedom? you give money to a fake royal family and call judges "my lord", wtf!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 December 2010, 15:40:59
Quote from: ripster;262479
Today's rant is OCN is deader than a doornail today.

I was hoping Webwit was gonna get everybody wound up.


who else is making biased/paid endorsement reviews at OCN w/o revealing that they are basically spokesmen? Show me a thread, i'll jump right on that!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:10:36
The "fake" royal family in the UK is no less oppressive than the fake "royal family" celeb ****shots in Hollywood.  People worship OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson, Tiger Woods, and Paris Hilton like they're gods ... and keep giving them money (buy into their movies, books, music, events/awards, and all the other paparazzi ****) ... worship the gods at the Altar every day (TVs are usually set up as the dominating/central prominent theme of a room) ...
 
If you ask me, that's more oppressive than a monarchy.  It's a self-perpetuating machine which makes people dedicate their effort to installing/maintaing a bunch of bimbo ****s in supersocietal positions.  For what?  A few hours of passive entertainment to replace a few hours of active entertainment?  I don't get it.
 
Celebrities are celebrated.  Baaaah, baaaah.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:19:51
I also hate stuff.  Mrawrrrrr.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:21:59
Quote from: Lanx;262470
i saw a documentary concerning a british case.
So in the US we address the judge as "your honor", no big deal it's an honor that some kind holds your life in his hands.

But in the UK they go "my lord" talk about servitude.

You UK ppl think you have freedom? you give money to a fake royal family and call judges "my lord", wtf!


Senior judges are often members of the House of Lords (and the House of Lords is the equivalent of the Supreme Court in the UK). I'm pretty sure the lower ranking judges are "Your honor" too.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:33:01
Quote from: RoboKrikit
I also hate stuff. Mrawrrrrr.
Growrer mumblegrumbletrollgrog****grrrrr...
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 December 2010, 17:00:23
Quote from: Konrad;262508
The "fake" royal family in the UK is no less oppressive than the fake "royal family" celeb ****shots in Hollywood.  People worship OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson, Tiger Woods, and Paris Hilton like they're gods ... and keep giving them money (buy into their movies, books, music, events/awards, and all the other paparazzi ****) ... worship the gods at the Altar every day (TVs are usually set up as the dominating/central prominent theme of a room) ...
 
If you ask me, that's more oppressive than a monarchy.  It's a self-perpetuating machine which makes people dedicate their effort to installing/maintaing a bunch of bimbo ****s in supersocietal positions.  For what?  A few hours of passive entertainment to replace a few hours of active entertainment?  I don't get it.
 
Celebrities are celebrated.  Baaaah, baaaah.

Yea but trust fund babies aside and even then, celebs make their own money.
Doesn't the UK give money to the royals to upkeep the castle and fund all their stuff? basically treating them like a zoo?
I mean it's part of taxes ain't it?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Mon, 13 December 2010, 17:14:41
Quote from: ripster;262527
I love stuff.


No stuff means no swag, and no swag means no grog. And we're getting dangerously low on grog.

Quote from: Konrad;262522
Growrer mumblegrumbletrollgrog****grrrrr...



Yarrrrr...

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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 19:46:42
I had some fun with math today...

If the USA earns more than [strike]$1 quadrillion[/strike] $3 trillion in tax revenue every year, and the so-called "federal deficit" is a mere $1.171 trillion, can anyone tell me why we can't pay this off now? I call "BS" on our government.

(Mandatory + discretionary spending is less than $4 trillion per year)
Edit: based on the above, I guess I answered my own question :(
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 20:05:47
Quote from: kishy;262597
1 quadrillion? Is that the real figure? How much of that is going to things that can be accounted for?


Good call, there was an error in my math. It's actually more than $3 trillion.
With mandatory + discretionary spending at less than $4 trillion per year, I guess I answered my own question. Something still seems fishy though...

Edit: just realized that if we increased jobs it would increase the middle and upper class, increasing the amount of people paying middle and upper class tax rates. That could easily push the annual tax revenues to an amount that would pay off our deficit.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 December 2010, 20:26:21
i have a few friends in the government who are but mere glorified secretaries, ppl with engineering/comp engineering degrees. but get paid like engineers.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mike on Tue, 14 December 2010, 01:56:11
Quote from: Lanx;262470
But in the UK they go "my lord" talk about servitude.

You UK ppl think you have freedom? you give money to a fake royal family and call judges "my lord", wtf!


Only judges of a higher court. In fact, the legal system in the UK represents the monarch rather than the people; in practice it ain't quite like that - the people (through parliament) makes the law. In theory the monarch can withhold royal assent, but it hasn't been since 1708.

I'm not sure why they're 'fake' royals - they hold the crown, and that's about as real as it gets. As to paying for them, that's a widespread bone of contention although income from royal estates goes straight to the government (in exchange for parliament funding the military).

In an abstract sense, the UK isn't free. But the UK people believe they're free and act is if they are free which counts as free - after all you can't be given freedom; you have to take your freedom.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: maclover on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:32:57
Quote from: keyboardlover;262596
can anyone tell me why we can't pay this off now?
because the rich owns this country
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:34:27
Quote from: maclover
because the rich owns this country


Nope, the people own it. It's still a democracy, last I checked.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:37:14
Keep telling yourself that.  In the mean time, rich people and companies lobby.  Much more effective than voting.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:40:26
"I don't like it, but I have to vote for it...  Twist my arm...  We're doing this for the middle class.  They're being held hostage."
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: iMav on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:41:16
Quote from: itlnstln;262908
Keep telling yourself that.  In the mean time, rich people and companies lobby.  Much more effective than voting.

The 17th amendment was supported, in large part, by special interests and lobbyists.  

Because senators are elected by state-wide popular vote, campaign money is the biggest swayer of these elections.  If senators were appointed by the state legislatures (as the constitution originally intended), the lobbyists would have very little influence.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:42:20
Quote from: iMav;262913
The 17th amendment was supported, in large part, by special interests and lobbyists.  

Because senators are elected by state-wide popular vote, campaign money is the biggest swayer of these elections.  If senators were appointed by the state legislatures (as the constitution originally intended), the lobbyists would have very little influence.


ItlnStln likes this.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 14 December 2010, 12:13:17
I still believe that all lobbyists should be shot, and if you decide to work in politics, unless your ex-communicated your in politics for life. That means these "senators" cannot be senators and then decide to work for the lobbyists or their supported companys cuz we know they aren't really working for them afterwards it's just another way that the lobbyists get their way, they can't "pay" the senators but they can say "pass this legislation through and if it passes, you can have a "J . o . b " with us lol how does sitting on your arse and talking to your old collegues once in a while for a few million sound?"

oh and politicians should be capped, why are you allowed to make money working for the government? working for the government means you should working for the ppl, in essence your a servant to the ppl, i don't remember butlers making mad bank in that respect.

anyway shoot all lobbyists in the head and i bet you we won't have stupid health care costs, farming subsidies, and government contracts where we sell our weapons to potential enemies, why sell our super weapons of destruction?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Tue, 14 December 2010, 12:38:09
What started out to be a nice pleasant drive in the country turned into the "Afternoon from Hell."  First of all, when Marta and I were leaving, the cats looked at us like, "Where are you going?"  Then, when we were driving, we had to stop and get gas. So right there that's time taken away from looking at the scenery.  Then, when we get home, guess what the cats are doing? Sleeping! Man, what next?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 14 December 2010, 12:49:17
Quote from: ripster;262479
Today's rant is OCN is deader than a doornail today.

I was hoping Webwit was gonna get everybody wound up.

found someone reviving the FTC/ paid endorsement issue on OCN!
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 14 December 2010, 13:48:33
OMG lego pron on top of a Realforce is SO WIN! :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Tue, 14 December 2010, 13:50:49
Gals like it rough, not smooth.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Tue, 14 December 2010, 13:56:20
There's the jizz alternative to YouTube, where you don't tube.

BTW, that police-car mini keyboard with the blood spatter protector must be handy.

But why isn't there YouJazz.com ?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: clickclack on Tue, 14 December 2010, 17:20:56
A BIG-

EEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU!

To the jerks who write viruses and the like! LEAVE US ALONE!
Seriously??? EFFFFFFFFF OFFFFFFFF!!!! PLEASE! It causes a rediculous amount of stress, STRESS, and more STRESS! Just because they have an inverted di#$ with undescended testicles! (sorry to those who do and suffer no such evil impulses) Why do we have to suffer?
I don't want to dedicate my damn life to learning code just to twart criminal activity. Like becoming a cop just so you can safely drive home from work.
Give me a break!!!

Stupid effn google redirect/analytics virus!!! I can't get rid of it!

On top of it being almost impossible for be to even get on this site now in any useful way (site partially loads, crashes, or  server too busy msgs) I get this damn virus on top of it, probably making everything worse... actually I have had it for like two weeks now =(

-1 to evil people
Life sucks, don't make it worse!

I bet I can't do 1/10th of the stuff I wan't on this site because of this darn virus! I can hardly post or reply =( =( =(
I am even lucky this post finally worked.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Tue, 14 December 2010, 17:39:20
Run an AV scan and a malware killer, clickclack.  Scan everything, inside everything, top to bottom.  Then fix your firewall and visit GRC, lol.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: RoboKrikit on Tue, 14 December 2010, 17:48:00
I use my awesome voodoo skull keys to ward off the viruses. :D

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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Tue, 14 December 2010, 18:42:17
I use a slave computer; proxy, firewall, overkill-scanning, packet filters, DMZ, IP masquerade, etc ... it's basically useless for anything else other than being burdened by the collective hits on performance that would otherwise affect the computers I actually use; a nice big somewhat anonymous and unexcitingly bland security wall to show the internet. A little bandwidth bottleneck exists but is (I feel) tolerably minimal in view of the disease-free happily unimpacted computing eden behind the wall.
 
Where can I get some of these voodoo skull keys?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 14 December 2010, 18:45:48
Quote from: maclover;262898
because the rich owns this country


Wrong. It's because you're stupid and don't know a single thing about politics. Take your Macs to Iran if you don't like America.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Tue, 14 December 2010, 18:55:53
Quote from: microsoft windows;263181
It's because you're stupid


c'mon, you can do better than that!

also, i recommend the PBS series Commanding Heights (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/) :)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Tue, 14 December 2010, 21:06:38
Actually I do run an FTP host so I can access my software archive on the move. But it's not on google so that alone makes it 99.99% resistant to hackers, or perhaps more accurately, 100% resistant to 99.99% of the hackers; it wouldn't really slow a pro who targets me for whatever reason. True, my stuff isn't interesting enough to be a target, but it's a fixed IP (subject to discovery by smart IP scanners) so I figure it doesn't hurt to make it as difficult and time-consuming as possible for 733t h4x0rz, last thing I want is to discover I'm suddenly running a chatroom full of stupid children. (Yeah, I said stupid, Rip. Yo momma's so fat she's on both sides of the family.)
 
It's more "just 'cuz I can" and a good experimenting/learning application so I know how to do stuff. It lets me always have a dependable bastion of content so I can feel warm and secure and needn't ever worry about the whimsical shifting (un)availability of things pulled from the cloud. Computers and storage are cheap, and local equipment is never subject to digital weather effects which choke bandwidth.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: clickclack on Wed, 15 December 2010, 04:57:16
I think I was finally able to rid my computer of this virus, well... it may not have been my computer at all!!!!
Believe it or not it was the ROUTER that was infected with this redirect virus!!! And perhaps this was initially from another computer altogether and we found it on that computer!

Here is a list of just some of the anti-whatever programs I ran to fix it-
Microsoft security essentials
Malwarebytes
Avira
Avast
Spybot
Hitman Pro
Combofix
... and none of them worked!

What did work was resetting my router and that was it!!!!

The nice benefit of running all of those programs though is that my compy is back to being silly fast and geekhack works again!!!!!!WooooHOOOOOOO!!! I really hope that continues, I really do!

So maybe some of that info will be of some help. I don't know how to do some of that stuff so I had my friend come over and help with what I identified. I really hope people understand how awful this stuff can be for people who are not high end computer savy. I even had to miss a full day of work to get this problem solved!
=S

Quote from: RoboKrikit;263170
I use my awesome voodoo skull keys to ward off the viruses. :D

LoL XD

Quote from: ripster;263184
Uh oh.  The Geekhack virus is being spread by Skull Keys.

You have no proof!


Quote from: Konrad;263252
... 100% resistant to 99.99%...

haahaa, I think I need to use that sometime.
Thanks for the suggestions btw =)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 15 December 2010, 06:43:52
Quote from: msiegel;263186
c'mon, you can do better than that!

also, i recommend the PBS series Commanding Heights (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/) :)


C'mon, bro.  PBS is socialist and un-American.  He ain't gonna watch that ****.  It is the reason, however, I donate a lot of my time (and money) to their auction every year.  Socialist TV, FTW.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 15 December 2010, 07:00:44
Quote from: itlnstln;263392
C'mon, bro.  PBS is socialist and un-American.  He ain't gonna watch that ****.  It is the reason, however, I donate a lot of my time (and money) to their auction every year.  Socialist TV, FTW.


PBS is un-American? I knew there was a reason PBS was by far my favourite American network.

It's a pity funding cuts killed PBS. Television is dead. It went downhill in the 80's and died in the 90's.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 15 December 2010, 07:56:29
I like the BBC, too.  I caught an episode of Luther a few weeks ago, and it was really good.  Seeing Idris Elba as a cop is a little weird, though.

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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: mr_a500 on Wed, 15 December 2010, 08:30:15
Quote from: ripster;263416
Don't Stop Believing dude.  Most critics think this is the 2nd Golden Age of TV but it's all on Cable.


Most critics are idiots then. Everything I've seen is absolute garbage. The BBC still occasionally does some good stuff, but even they have started using that extremely annoying modern shaky spastic camerawork with hyper-fast edits. It's hard to even find documentaries without this kind of force-fed cram-in-your-face direction. You used to be able to actually look at an image for a few seconds and you had a choice of where in the image to look. Now, they slam something in your face, shaky and in close focus, rip it away and cram something else there. I can't stand that "speed up and slow down" movement that is in absolutely everything now.

Even if I could ignore that, scripts are filled with stupid modern expressions and actors use annoying, predictable, fake mannerisms. Even British actors aren't as good as they used to be.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 15 December 2010, 08:47:16
:48 and 3:33 were the best deaths, hated charlie and boon/sister
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Wed, 15 December 2010, 17:41:19
Aw, gee, I never watched Lost.  Or Friends, or The Office.  Or those sissy Two-Half Men.  Got my Star Trek TOS Collector's DVD Edition - what more do I need?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 15 December 2010, 21:25:57
Quote from: Konrad;263659
Got my Star Trek TOS Collector's DVD Edition - what more do I need?
Our politics may be different, but when it comes to your tastes in television, they seem to be very similar to mine.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: clickclack on Thu, 16 December 2010, 02:26:42
sooooo... I guess my computer is ok now... I think.

But it indeed does seem like it was a coincidence that geekhack ran well after all that virus was cleared out. Becuase geekhack still has bouts of just not working at all for me =(

It seems ok-ish right now so here I go crossing my fingers it will last long enough for me to reply to some stuff...

So todays rant... I hate coincidences!



Edit:I noticed something interesting...
The  longer I stay on a particular page, post, reply...etc. the higher the likelihood of geekhack stalling on me when I actually do something.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 16 December 2010, 03:21:13
Maybe you've got it all backwards ... it could be the iMav virus infecting your computer through a geekhack vector.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Thu, 16 December 2010, 06:06:48
We all suffer the GH virus.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 07:38:47
Today's rant: banks and the bailout.

So I'm getting pre-approved for a mortgage and I got a whole bunch of estimates from Wells Fargo - one of the banks we bailed out. The estimates were for different house prices, yet had different closing costs and most of the numbers changed wildly across them. Nothing added up and you couldn't figure out how they even got to these numbers. Needless to say, I think it's clear that theses banks we bailed out are still out to screw people. And why aren't we doing anything about it? They obviously haven't learned anything from their unethical practices. We should've let them burn.

And btw, I definitely will NOT be doing business with Wells Fargo.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 08:30:13
Quote from: ripster;263955
Wall Street and Banks run capitalist systems. Get over it and stop whining.


So what, they can be capitalist and ethical. And if they're not ethical and get themselves in trouble then we shouldn't bail them out. But since you're a [strike]slum[/strike] land lord, I'm sure you're already familiar with capitalism and ethics.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Thu, 16 December 2010, 09:18:49
What? People are paid more for making bigger profits, in a world where ethical behaviour is costly, and they still behave in an unethical fashion. How does THAT happen?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 09:36:46
Quote from: Twitchy
What? People are paid more for making bigger profits, in a world where ethical behaviour is costly, and they still behave in an unethical fashion. How does THAT happen?


I'm not surprised that it's happening. I'm saying that it's not right and it shouldn't happen. I think it would happen less if we didn't bail them out.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 10:00:37
Quote from: ripster;264001
unethical behavior without fear of consequences


i've heard our current system is based on game theory, which gives an "unfair advantage" to psychopaths

/not kidding
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 10:03:28
:drum:
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Thu, 16 December 2010, 10:40:41
Quote from: msiegel;264012
i've heard our current system is based on game theory...
Thatcher and Reagan were proponents of just this.
Quote from: msiegel;264012
...which gives an "unfair advantage" to psychopaths
Thatcher had a rather worrying look about her
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 16 December 2010, 15:02:38
And Reagan didn't?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: msiegel on Fri, 17 December 2010, 01:01:27
Quote from: ripster;264395
85% of the profits


since you're a reaganite, i assume you'll be trickling the profits down to those of us who have fewer keyboards... ;)
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Fri, 17 December 2010, 01:06:00
85%? That's peanuts.


Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 17 December 2010, 04:49:03
I refuse to click on that video because that puke-green bulgy thing scares me.
 
Too bad Reagan's economic policies have all gone to ****; somebody poured a ton of money into bombing the middle east, while spending the rest of it upgrading Chinese industry.  Move over America, you're bankrolling the emergence of new aggressive industrial superpowers.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: woody on Fri, 17 December 2010, 05:08:14
What if US was just a pit stop?
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Twitchy on Fri, 17 December 2010, 05:26:53
Quote from: Konrad;264474
I refuse to click on that video because that puke-green bulgy thing scares me.


That is the correct response :D
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 17 December 2010, 09:34:18
Well done, ripster.
Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 17 December 2010, 09:34:32
The markets will crash one day.  Then what, Rip?
 
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Title: whats today's rant?
Post by: Konrad on Fri, 17 December 2010, 09:40:59
4 minute response time.  Impressive.
Title: Re: whats today's rant?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 10:56:32
This thread seems relevant to current topics!