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Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 08:35:51
See here (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se05c0).

(http://www.elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/86UB_iso1000_th620x400.jpg)

NOTE: this is likely just the presale price - after they get in stock the price will likely increase to match the white 86U. Get 'em now!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: takasta on Mon, 13 December 2010, 10:20:17
wow ****, that's an insane steal. i'll buy it straight off if i wans't in Hong Kong haha
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: kidchunks on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:22:12
Damn, very tempting...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:26:41
Quote from: kidchunks;262343
Damn, very tempting...


don't do it, you're ruining your life.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: kidchunks on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:28:06
Quote from: panda-R;262347
don't do it, you're ruining your life.


LOL, yea I've done enough keyboard spending for the year.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ktkr on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:28:09
Quote from: ripster;262276
Be sure to get the Red ESC key.  Otherwise the 86U (last years model) is kinda lame looking.

Too bad SW 4 doesn't do that Firmware update thingamabob.


Pfft. It's awesome, but the red esc makes it super awesome.

I'd probably spring on that offer if I'd live in the US. Phew...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:32:12
I'm really tempted too...and I don't even need another keyboard right now!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:41:29
what's the different btw this and the 87U?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:41:31
I would be tempted if it were the 87U.  Not so much otherwise. The 103UW is tempting, but I don't need another.  I don't even use a PC at home. My phone, maybe, but no PCs.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:42:43
Quote from: fssbzz;262359
what's the different btw this and the 87U?


No virtual numpad.
No lock lights.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:48:56
Thanks for the mention. Fyi, I just added the 86UB to the wiki as well.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:51:14
damm. nvm, i will save up a few more $ and wait for 87UB to get on stock.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:56:34
Quote from: fssbzz
damm. nvm, i will save up a few more $ and wait for 87UB to get on stock.


That ain't gonna happen. Don't listen to Ripster and ItlnStln, the additional features are not a big deal at all. The 87U was a limited time thing and is now only available in Asia.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: theferenc on Mon, 13 December 2010, 12:59:10
And is now over $320 from Leopold in Korea...yeah, was going to get it, but now I can't afford. Damn the ****ty dollar...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:00:46
Quote from: ripster;262370
Oh I'm kidding.  Buy the 86UB.  Be happy.

Just remember I'm more leet.


well, is a fact that you always more leet when comes to mech keyboard. :bowl:
i really like the cool Led on those cap, on the 87U.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:01:54
It depends.  The lock lights are no big issue; I can take 'em or leave 'em.  The numpad, OTOH, is huge.  That is definitely lost functionality beween the two SKUs.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:02:45
Like someone else mentioned, you can still get one in Korea.  Shipping to Pluto would be killer, though.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:03:55
Quote from: itlnstln;262382
Shipping to Pluto would be killer, though.

haha.. that's a good one.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:11:38
Quote from: fssbzz;262378

i really like the cool Led on those cap, on the 87U.


Unless you use the numpad or caps lock, then you will never even see them. Unless you press them accidentally :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:14:07
Quote from: ripster;262391
But unlike the Ducky's these Topre 87U windowed keys are super smooth and don't fall apart.


only the PBT key from Ducky will fall apart, the ABS version are smooth.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:17:53
Ripster, your spacebar is super-smooth, too.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 13:32:15
Guys, I just realized the 86U and 86UB do have a caps lock led. I'll update the wiki.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:08:46
Quote from: fssbzz;262392
only the PBT key from Ducky will fall apart, the ABS version are smooth.


you and ripster stop making things up, my PBT keys are stronger than titanium. I tested it with a hammer.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:11:03
Quote from: fssbzz;262368
damm. nvm, i will save up a few more $ and wait for 87UB to get on stock.


the power of persuasion on this board never ceases to amaze me!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:26:12
Quote from: ripster;262432


I stand by my Japanese QC > Chinese QC statement!



thanks for the info CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/CarGirl/CaptainObvious-1.png)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:29:38
bruce lee's teacher owned japanese karete general.
(http://spiritofwarrior.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/bruce-lee-yip-man-3.jpg)

Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ktkr on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:45:01
Quote from: keyboardlover;262401
Guys, I just realized the 86U and 86UB do have a caps lock led. I'll update the wiki.


Exactly where? No matter how much I look, I can't find such a thing on my white 86U.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 13 December 2010, 14:54:04
Quote from: ktkr
Exactly where? No matter how much I look, I can't find such a thing on my white 86U.


In the photo of the black 86U it looked like it did. Hrmmmm.
Guess we will have to wait until someone gets one to know for sure!

I changed back the wiki entry since we don't know for sure. Unless someone with an 86UB says otherwise, I'll assume no LEDs in the caps lock & numpad keys. Sorry for the confusion!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: jaynoon on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:25:36
Oh dear, this is a serious test of my willpower.. I have purchased both a Filco Brown & an HHKB in the last couple of months, but the black Realforce is very, very tempting.

I would justify it as my work keyboard, except that's how I justified the last one. Buying this would mean shelving or selling one of these that I have... Sigh, never easy having an expensive habit.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: laden3 on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:44:07
Quote from: ripster;262391
But unlike the Ducky's these Topre 87U windowed keys are super smooth and don't fall apart.

Another sign of Japan QC > China QC
Show Image
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5162/5251253753_81bd696183_z.jpg)


http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-2828-1-3.html
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: stuiees on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:48:27
Can anyone comment to the difference in feel between the RF boards with variable weight keys versus the all 55g version?  I am very tempted to pick this up, but am worried I would prefer the uniform 55g keys over the variable weighted keys.

Can anyone speak to this?  I am currently using a HHKB pro and have a filco with browns.  If I decide to get the Realforce I think I might sell my Filco.  I got it along with many others from PCHome and have barley used it since its arival.  Not to say I dont like it, I just prefer the Torpe switch.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: laden3 on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:53:01
Quote from: ripster;262535
Thanks.  I knew I saw that snaggle tooth effect somewhere.

The pic where the white plastic part fell out is even funnier though.


http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-4188-1-1.html
He couldn't find that small piece of plastic too LOL. It happened because the keycaps were shipped in a box. Those are replacement keycaps.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 13 December 2010, 16:55:57
I'm think I'm going to continue to wait on the 91UBY
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Mon, 13 December 2010, 18:11:01
Quote from: laden3;262540
http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-4188-1-1.html
He couldn't find that small piece of plastic too LOL. It happened because the keycaps were shipped in a box. Those are replacement keycaps.

LOL, so funny he cant find it.+ that emotion
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 13 December 2010, 19:12:41
Just purchased a 103U-UW. Deal was irresistible.

Also put my HHKB pro2 up for sale in the classifieds if anyone's interested
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: jnsjr on Tue, 14 December 2010, 02:09:54
offtopic - I now have acquired both IP Man 1 and 2.  That fight scene was great.

Quote from: fssbzz;262443
bruce lee's teacher owned japanese karete general.
Show Image
(http://spiritofwarrior.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/bruce-lee-yip-man-3.jpg)


Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:27:20
The only problem I'm having with this is deciding whether to pre-order 1 or 2. I thought that sleeping on it last night would help, but it didn't. I still want 2, and that would pretty much wipe out my keyboard budget.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:29:19
Quote from: mjacob;262885
The only problem I'm having with this is deciding whether to pre-order 1 or 2. I thought that sleeping on it last night would help, but it didn't. I still want 2, and that would pretty much wipe out my keyboard budget.


u should ask yourself, do you really need 2 keyboards sitting around looking pretty? If the answer is yes, you've been here too long.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:33:37
Quote from: panda-R;262888
u should ask yourself, do you really need 2 keyboards sitting around looking pretty? If the answer is yes, you've been here too long.


I have a 103U-UW already, and I wasn't sold on the Topre switches initially (preferred buckling spring and Cherry blues). The Topre feel has grown on me, though, and now I think I like them better than everything else. Plus, the tenkeyless form factor is my favorite, and black is awesome.

Matt
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:36:19
Quote from: mjacob;262900
I have a 103U-UW already, and I wasn't sold on the Topre switches initially (preferred buckling spring and Cherry blues). The Topre feel has grown on me, though, and now I think I like them better than everything else. Plus, the tenkeyless form factor is my favorite, and black is awesome.

Matt


You've gone black and you can't go back! Oh My!

I'm going to play Anti-Geekhack's advocate and say... you can only type on one keyboard at a time, do you really need 12? :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:39:00
I usually buy 2 of the same keyboard.  One for home and one for work.  Just sayin'.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:44:17
Quote from: panda-R;262907
You've gone black and you can't go back! Oh My!

I'm going to play Anti-Geekhack's advocate and say... you can only type on one keyboard at a time, do you really need 12? :D


I guess you could say that I like the black-on-black action of the lettering on the keycaps. And hey, if I end up buying 2, that'll only bump my collection up to 9 keyboards, not 12. I've been selling off some inventory as of late.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:46:16
Quote from: mjacob;262915
I guess you could say that I like the black-on-black action of the lettering on the keycaps. And hey, if I end up buying 2, that'll only bump my collection up to 9 keyboards, not 12. I've been selling off some inventory as of late.


Sorry, Pandas cannot count.

If you buy 2, can I have one?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:53:03
Quote from: itlnstln;262910
I usually buy 2 of the same keyboard.  One for home and one for work.  Just sayin'.


And that's what I'd normally do, except that I don't really trust our cleaning crew here (not that they'd steal it, just that they'd mess it up somehow). I'm using a $100 Das Keyboard at work, but I'm not sure I'd want to leave a $200+ Topre here. Too many things that could go wrong, if you ask me.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 11:53:52
Desk drawer with lock.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 12:00:51
Quote from: itlnstln;262926
Desk drawer with lock.


I hadn't thought of that, but I like it. It'll be a PITA every morning and evening, but I think it'll be worth it. Now, to find the keys for my 20-year-old cubicle locks...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 December 2010, 12:22:54
I don't do it day-to-day, but I do lock-up when I go on vacation.  Most of my keyboards don't look all that special to the "layman."
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Tue, 14 December 2010, 20:23:52
In for 2. Hope they ship soon!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Tue, 14 December 2010, 20:30:05
I'm really, really, really tempted.

I'm pressing this nonstop and it's only making it worse :|

(http://i.min.us/idsLnq.JPG)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 14 December 2010, 20:32:08
Quote from: mjacob;263238
In for 2. Hope they ship soon!


Congrats! Post pics when you get them!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: jaynoon on Tue, 14 December 2010, 23:12:20
Crap. Just realized that tomorrow is the 15th.. didn't realize I had to make a decision by tonight... Help! :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 15 December 2010, 07:28:45
Quote from: jaynoon;263320
Crap. Just realized that tomorrow is the 15th.. didn't realize I had to make a decision by tonight... Help! :)


Price hasn't changed yet...I doubt it will today but who knows. I'm still wrestling with getting one myself!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: BigDeuce on Wed, 15 December 2010, 08:34:35
In for 1..... ugh, the wallet is moaning....

To make it up to my wallet I must sell the HHKBP2, I really don't like the layout.
FS: Barely used (4 hours maybe) HHKBP2 Grey
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ktkr on Wed, 15 December 2010, 09:02:12
Quote from: jaynoon;263320
Crap. Just realized that tomorrow is the 15th.. didn't realize I had to make a decision by tonight... Help! :)


The decision is easy, and know you what the outcome is. ;)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Wed, 15 December 2010, 10:05:18
Quote from: keyboardlover;263407
Price hasn't changed yet...I doubt it will today but who knows. I'm still wrestling with getting one myself!


Don't you already have an 87U?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 15 December 2010, 10:54:07
Quote from: ironman31
Don't you already have an 87U?


Yea but since I sold my 103UB 55g I have a Thinkpad at home without a mechanical keyboard...
I'm also wrestling with the idea of selling said Thinkpad and getting a docking station + second monitor...
Tough decisions are tough!

EDIT: I bit the bullet on this one too!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Wed, 15 December 2010, 15:19:19
Just got an order confirmation email from EliteKeyboards that didn't have the word "backorder" in it. The first order confirmation email said I ordered 2 x SE05C0 Realforce 86U Tenkeyless (White/Gray) and it said "backorder" next to the order number. The latest one is corrected to say 2 x SE05C0 Realforce 86UB Tenkeyless (Black/Dark Gray). Guess that means they're shipping soon?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 15 December 2010, 16:13:11
Yep -- the website was updated too to say "Now Shipping". Price is the same though...who knows for how long.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: jaynoon on Wed, 15 December 2010, 18:31:46
Ugh I caved. To Majestouch's mortgage, I say: YOU'RE WELCOME!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: stuiees on Wed, 15 December 2010, 18:39:02
Status has changed from "Stock: No" to "Stock: YES"

In for 1... I guesses....
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Wed, 15 December 2010, 18:44:43
Never received a shipping notification email, so I guess the pre-order was for naught. It's a shame, too---I paid extra for 2-day shipping with hopes of them shipping today and me receiving them on Friday. Now they probably won't be here until next week.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: SpatiallyAware on Wed, 15 December 2010, 19:56:01
Ah I still can't decide..



I've never tried a Topre switch and I have a really hard time shelling out $230 for what is (in my mind) a fancy rubber dome with sliders.  Designed very well, yes, but still...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Wed, 15 December 2010, 20:05:33
Quote from: SpatiallyAware;263739
Ah I still can't decide..



I've never tried a Topre switch and I have a really hard time shelling out $230 for what is (in my mind) a fancy rubber dome with sliders.  Designed very well, yes, but still...


If you can't see yourself spending that, then don't
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 15 December 2010, 20:15:36
It IS much more than some fancy rubber dome though...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Wed, 15 December 2010, 20:18:41
Quote from: mjacob;263704
Never received a shipping notification email, so I guess the pre-order was for naught. It's a shame, too---I paid extra for 2-day shipping with hopes of them shipping today and me receiving them on Friday. Now they probably won't be here until next week.


It seems I spoke too soon. About 30 minutes after I wrote that, I got an email with shipping information. They'll be here Friday after all. Awesome!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: jaynoon on Thu, 16 December 2010, 01:26:27
Nice! I just got my order confirmation as well (definitely ordered too late tonight for it to ship today).
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:20:20
can someone tell me not to buy this?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:23:54
Quote from: panda-R;264112
can someone tell me not to buy this?


don't buy it!
wait until the regular 86U goes on sale :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:25:09
Quote from: msiegel;264113
don't buy it!
wait until the regular 86U goes on sale :)


what regular one? the white one?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:31:23
Quote from: panda-R
can someone tell me not to buy this?


Do NOT buy this!

;)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:39:02
Quote from: panda-R;264115
the white one?


the white one.

you know you want it :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: wanabe on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:39:56
Quote from: msiegel;264113
don't buy it!
wait until the regular 86U goes on sale :)


+1..i would have jumped on this if it were the white 86U.  not a huge fan of the black RF
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: wanabe on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:49:18
it's not that, i just hate shiny keys.  i would learn to touch type before wearing an LED headlamp at the computer anyways =)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:51:07
I wouldn't really call RF keys shiny, no matter what the color. Well, except for the spacebars after they get some use :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:52:29
I'll take shiny black keys over grimy white/gray keys any day of the week.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 13:53:09
the force: there's a light side as well as a dark side :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: WhiteRice on Thu, 16 December 2010, 14:01:38
Dude I have got to get that movie. Looks awesome.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 14:02:48
Quote from: ripster;264131
You Question The Force?
Show Image
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5002373613_5d6e914593_z.jpg)


I recommend strong Cree flashlights if you are not a touch typist.  However if you have Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) you should have lots of bright light anyway.


i call fake on this because if that were a real lightsaber i don't think you can impale someone and hold them up like that. That is unless he impaled him and is holding him up with the force.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 14:06:32
Quote from: msiegel;264122
the white one.

you know you want it :)


ohohohohoho

the white one in CHINA-town is about $195USD.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 14:11:19
The white one was the same price when it came out (or maybe 225). Shortly after it started shipping, the price went up. That's why I predict the same will happen with the 86UB.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 14:37:33
Quote from: ripster;264164
Interesting.  It ran about $250 or so in Akihabara.

China is definitely "Keyboard Dumping"!  I'm calling Hillary Clinton!!!


She's pretty hot, please let her know i said hi.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: wanabe on Thu, 16 December 2010, 15:09:03
Quote from: keyboardlover;264137
I wouldn't really call RF keys shiny, no matter what the color. Well, except for the spacebars after they get some use :D


yeah i didn't mean that the key surface itself is shiny, but i feel like the edges of the keys are sharper than other keyboards so they wear down quicker.  and a shiny spacebar thing bugs me no matter the brand
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 15:21:19
Quote from: wanabe
yeah i didn't mean that the key surface itself is shiny, but i feel like the edges of the keys are sharper than other keyboards so they wear down quicker.  and a shiny spacebar thing bugs me no matter the brand


The quality of Topre keys is second to none - I would highly doubt that they would wear down quicker than other types of keys. And really, any keyboard will have a shiny spacebar SOME day. :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: wanabe on Thu, 16 December 2010, 15:24:39
Quote from: keyboardlover;264194
The quality of Topre keys is second to none - I would highly doubt that they would wear down quicker than other types of keys. And really, any keyboard will have a shiny spacebar SOME day. :D


i agree with you they are second to none, i'm not saying that theyre not nice.  What i'm saying is that the keys feel like they have sharper edges to me, and that alone in my experience with my 87U means that they show wear quicker (on the edges of the keys) than other KBs.  

obviously stuff wears down the more you use it, so SOME day every KB will show a shiny spacebar...but it's easier to see on a black keyboard.  not sure how you can argue with that.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 15:31:12
is that an innie, or an outie?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:07:42
i can't believe i didn't buy the realforce yet!~!!!
what should i do
someone tell me what should i do!!!@!@!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:08:59
Umm...

...eat some bamboo!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: fssbzz on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:09:10
add to cart and check out. :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:15:00
panda, you are the bill shatner of pandas
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:36:53
Quote from: msiegel;264272
panda, you are the bill shatner of pandas


lol, i like this!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:38:36
imma buy the 86UB if it's still on sale after i get my 103UW and i tries it and if i likes it then i buys it brother.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:39:18
When do you get your 103UW?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 18:58:50
Quote from: keyboardlover;264285
When do you get your 103UW?


SATRUDAY!

You?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:00:04
Got my order confirmation today...no shipping confirmation yet though :\
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: theferenc on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:16:02
Seriously, Ripster, did Topre come **** in your cheerios or something? I get that you aren't a fan, but don't you ever get tired of ripping on them?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: elbowglue on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:22:07
Topres shat in my cheerios.

It didnt seem to me that Ripster ****s on topres that much.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:27:14
He hates animals more, except I cannot explain the dog in his pictures.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:28:49
Is that a dog? I thought it was a mop.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:30:56
Quote from: keyboardlover;264310
Is that a dog? I thought it was a mop.


I'm pretty sure it's not a panda, otherwise I'd have to attempt to mate with it.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:48:37
Quote from: panda-R;264297
SATRUDAY!

You?


Me too :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 19:55:58
Quote from: ironman31;264321
Me too :D


horray for saturdays!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: RoboKrikit on Thu, 16 December 2010, 22:03:18
Quote from: theferenc;264302
Seriously, Ripster, did Topre come **** in your cheerios or something? I get that you aren't a fan, but don't you ever get tired of ripping on them?


That's an awfully shiny spacebar for a guy who hates Topres. :)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 16 December 2010, 22:26:18
I can't believe I still didn't buy it! HAH, I'm resisiting my primal urges to eat bamboo.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: majestouch on Fri, 17 December 2010, 01:14:33
A ****poo? The realforce is strong with this one.

With current exchange rates the 87U would be quite a bit more than what the 86UBs are going for during this sale:)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 06:08:39
Quote from: ripster

Those Topre 86Us truly suck.  The Special Limited Time Offer Edition 87U are the true RealForces.


There's really nothing that sucks about them actually. You're just jealous because you paid full price (nearly $300) for your 87U, and you have to justify it somehow. The additional features on the 87U hardly matter! Lol. It ain't a Ducky, so don't say it suckys.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: wanabe on Fri, 17 December 2010, 09:02:43
topre owners have such big swinging keyboards!...this thread is making realize how touchy we are about them =) (i have two)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 10:14:14
Hey buddy, i'm right here

and I still can't believe I didn't buy one yet, but tomorrow I finally become one with the rubber (buying my first pack of condoms).
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 10:17:20
Noooo! We want panda babies!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ynih on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:04:43
Rubbers...are...good...cups are good too...

Quick! when you buy your 1st pack of rubbers, flip it around to check for dipswitch 4!!! firmware update!! :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:22:26
I'm just gonna order the 87u silent from japan cuz thats how i roll.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:24:59
Quote from: panda-R;264692
I'm just gonna order the 87u silent from japan cuz thats how i roll.

Where? I thought they were only available in Korea.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:33:17
Quote from: keyboardlover;264693
Where? I thought they were only available in Korea.


I can't tell (http://www.vshopu.com/item/2103-0101/index.html) you that because I need to be the first one to own it on GH.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:34:31
Quote from: ripster;264703
Panda.  You were supposed to keep the WW Buying Guide Wiki a secret.

I get the distinct feeling this thread, the PChome thread, and the WW Buying Guide Wiki means I won't get a Christmas card from Majestouch this year and will lose my EKB Fanboi badge.


oops...

ok well i'm flying to korea to meet mr.leopold and he assured me that he will gift me a 87u silent in exchange for some undetermined services which will be determined once i arrive in pyongyang.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:36:06
Hmm...

Quote from: vshopu.com
This product was discontinued
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:37:36
Quote from: itlnstln;264708
Hmm...


shhh... you're supposed to keep everyone hopes and dreams ALIVE! NOOOOO!!!!!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 17 December 2010, 12:41:59
Just doing what I do best.  Letting everyone down.


I have a funny story about that, but this is neither the time nor place.  No, it does not involve my GF... or my ****.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 17 December 2010, 13:12:19
FIFO.  That's the rule.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:19:21
This thread is not lively enough.

My REALFORCE is at it's destination. T-minus Bamboo until pick up.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:25:44
Let's liven things up a bit...

...with some panda dancing.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xPdimxQJFXM/SoD5GUjbEqI/AAAAAAAABHE/h3GtThTQh_8/s400/0279dd23ddd8a8c55b2da436ae6f284e3a0bef53_m.jpg)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:31:50
Quote from: keyboardlover;264779
Let's liven things up a bit...

...with some panda dancing.

Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xPdimxQJFXM/SoD5GUjbEqI/AAAAAAAABHE/h3GtThTQh_8/s400/0279dd23ddd8a8c55b2da436ae6f284e3a0bef53_m.jpg)


were you aware that picture is of my underage cousin RedPanda-Q? I might have to report you to the Po-po of Transdinistrichina..
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ynih on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:46:09
I just got this 86u in the mail and I think I am now really in love with the Topre.  I have the 103UB 55g weight one and this variable weighted one surely is night and day to me.  I feel I have rather sensitive hands and the fact that not every key is friggin 55g, is a relief for me.  I believe the 55g is going up for sale sometime next week for me.  Anyone else got this keyboard yet? thoughts?
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:50:04
Quote from: ripster;264797
I wonder if Majestouch considers this thread good advertising?


i'm trying to win browny points from Majestouch but I don't think he likes Pandas.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 14:53:29
In soviet russia all keyboards have black cherrys.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:06:49
i got stinky farts!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: magictoaster on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:24:53
Quote from: majestouch;264414
A ****poo? The realforce is strong with this one.

With current exchange rates the 87U would be quite a bit more than what the 86UBs are going for during this sale:)


Majestouch, you magnificent bastard! I'm a victim of the "newly available" 86UB. Now, anyone wants a good deal on a brand new (I've opened the box but that's about it) Happy Hacking Professional 2 (Dark Gray) ? :wink:
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: magictoaster on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:30:08
Quote from: ripster;264822
Please let us know if it has LEDs.  I have a feeling it's unchanged from the 86U.


I will (if its directed to me), but since I'm in Canada, it will be weeks (with the holidays and typically slow postal service) before I get it.

Plus I was already supposed to send you pictures of shinny Steelseries keys and never did, so I would not trust me if I were you!

Here you are (not perfect, sorry) : http://www.flickr.com/photos/57228783@N08/5269212443/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57228783@N08/5269212443/)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:33:35
I'm interested in a good deal on a HHKB Pro2 in Dark Grey Printed, now if i only know where I could get a good deal on one. Oh and it would be that much better if it were in Canada.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:37:02
We don't take bamboo as currency...
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: theferenc on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:37:46
Just to note, red pandas are actually more closely related to foxes than to giant pandas.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 15:40:04
Quote from: keyboardlover;264835
We don't take bamboo as currency...


I can offer my molt for exchange, that is if I do molt.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 17 December 2010, 16:53:00
****...****!

My friend wants to buy my other laptop. I had offered but didn't think they were interested. Now I will have an 86UB without a mate!

(http://www.bestmemes.com/pix/64042611.jpg)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Fri, 17 December 2010, 17:15:25
i offer my molt in exchange for ur 86UB.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: msiegel on Fri, 17 December 2010, 18:13:58
molto bene!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Sat, 18 December 2010, 10:22:01
Quote from: ynih;264799
Anyone else got this keyboard yet? thoughts?


Got mine yesterday. So far, it feels crisper than my Realforce 103U, but that's probably just because it hasn't been broken in yet. The dark gray letting is awesome---dark enough to disappear and look badass, but just enough contrast to see it if you need to peek to find a symbol or something.

So, the 103U is now permanently on work duty (found my cubicle key so that I can lock it up at night), and I'm using one 86UB at home while I decide what I want to do with the other one. Most likely it'll stay in the box as a hot spare until I need it.

Also, the packaging from EliteKeyboards was meticulous. The shipping box was probably a little bigger than it needed to be, but each keyboard box was wrapped in its own piece of kraft paper. How luxurious. Overall, I'm very pleased with the transaction, but for almost $500, I'd be raising hell if anything was slightly off.

Matt
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 18 December 2010, 10:23:46
Thanks for the update Matt - do any of the keys have leds in them? (Like the caps lock key).
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: mjacob on Sat, 18 December 2010, 10:32:42
That's a negative, Ghostrider. There are no LEDs anywhere to be found on this board.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Sat, 18 December 2010, 10:40:36
This thread is HOT with tobasco sauce.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 18 December 2010, 11:27:11
Quote from: ripster;265258

Wiki updates are looking good KL!!


GREAT SUCCESS!

(http://www.tomgreen.com/uploads/lg_18381783574750695d21892.jpg)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Sat, 18 December 2010, 17:32:23
lets get this thread going again. My 103-UnWanted will be in my hands in 1 hour!
EXCITEMENT BEGINS NAO!
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 18 December 2010, 17:48:30
Quote from: panda-R
lets get this thread going again. My 103-UnWanted will be in my hands in 1 hour!
EXCITEMENT BEGINS NAO!


Let's have some funnnnnnnnnnn

(http://junglethoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Panda-Slide.jpg)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: SpatiallyAware on Sat, 18 December 2010, 18:44:55
Ripster has convinced me to wait for the 87u with it's LEDs and numlock


poke
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 18 December 2010, 18:45:43
Lol. You may be waiting a long time :D
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: ironman31 on Sun, 19 December 2010, 00:11:21
Received my 103 today. The 35(0)g keys have a surprisingly soft landing, was completely unexpected. So far I'm very happy with the keyboard, only because it feels completely different than the all 55g one I own. Under first impressions, I feel every Topre owner should try both. The 55g has a completely unique feel from any other keyboard I have tried, while the variable weight (though lighter and more pleasant to type on) feels more like a normal rubber dome. This isn't to say I do not like the variable weight, just that the 55g board has a more unique feel.

This is after only using the keyboard for about an hour.


edit: I feel like this post shouldn't be here...o well.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Sun, 19 December 2010, 10:21:33
The 30g pinky feels the mostest like a glorified rubber dome. However, the REALFORCE is REALAWESOME~~
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: HaaTa on Sun, 19 December 2010, 10:23:56
30g Topre :biggrin:
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 19 December 2010, 11:22:25
Quote from: HaaTa;265707
30g Topre :biggrin:


I'm one of those who tought: " Where the hell did his signature go?"

I actually think my full 45g Topre it's very pleasant and can't imagine having more than that, I used to get tired when using my MX black so now I'm in heaven.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Sun, 19 December 2010, 21:30:23
Quote from: ripster;265741
Congrats!

About time you moved on from the Chinese clones.

Ursus thibetanus japonicus however isn't very cute and makes for terrible stuffed animals
Show Image
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Asiatic_Black_Bear.jpg/180px-Asiatic_Black_Bear.jpg)


that's a cute bear but we all know the panda bear is the most ferocious of them all.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: HaaTa on Sun, 19 December 2010, 21:38:09
Bah, everyone knows that the Grizzly Bear eats more German tourists than any other animal on the planet (sadly, I'm not joking...).

*shakes head*

Example (http://www.eturbonews.com/19640/tourists-fined-chasing-grizzlies-near-lake-louise)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: panda-R on Sun, 19 December 2010, 21:49:30
well apparently you have not seen this video...

Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 19 December 2010, 22:09:04
Aww he was so happy after he stole that guy's jacket! Cute.
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 19 December 2010, 23:23:14
That's what happened last time with the white 86U. The price went up several says after the presale was over without warning. Since there was no way to know how many days it would take, I wanted to warn people that it would likely go up.

So don't "rip" me up about it ;)
Title: Realforce 86UB Presale - $230
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 19 December 2010, 23:41:03
Ha, I wish! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my to-do list...

(http://danbruno.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/getmoneygetpaid.jpg)