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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Tue, 28 December 2010, 01:26:43

http://www.gup.co.jp/eng_top.html

great pads, just ordered one. Apparently their built to last, provide great tracking, and right now they are REALLY REALLY CHEAP!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 8_INCH_FLOPPY on Tue, 28 December 2010, 01:42:08

That is cheap, even by my standards.  Good find.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Tue, 28 December 2010, 01:45:09

Here's a good user review and some more info:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/member-reviews/38840-artisan-gaming-mouse-pads.html

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 28 December 2010, 18:13:19

Ten bucks for a mousepad? I'm used to getting them for free at sales expos.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: J888www on Tue, 28 December 2010, 19:53:11

TY Polygon, hope you find your Tenkeyless soon.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Tue, 28 December 2010, 19:56:34

Hmm, the review recommends against using it for RTS... interesting. Going to keep the Vespula for now.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ynih on Tue, 28 December 2010, 21:25:08

Does anyone know if this is a fabric or a teflon/plastic type of feel?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ynih on Tue, 28 December 2010, 21:31:04

Hmm, looks like it's fabric on top and non-slip rubber on bottom. In for 2.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: jaynoon on Tue, 28 December 2010, 21:53:47

Quote from: BlueRain;270057

Hmm, the review recommends against using it for RTS... interesting. Going to keep the Vespula for now.

I'm just trying to figure out how a given mousepad would be bad for specific genres of games... If the optics track on it, and it's not too frictiony, what else is there?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Tue, 28 December 2010, 22:03:03

The review was saying there's more vertical friction than horizontal friction. In RTS, you get more of a bird's eye view, so you'd most likely move in all directions vs. FPS where the mouse is more for diagonal/horizonal movements. Technically, I can get the pad and turn up the y-axis sensitivity in my G500...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: jaynoon on Tue, 28 December 2010, 22:13:43

Quote from: BlueRain;270118

The review was saying there's more vertical friction than horizontal friction. In RTS, you get more of a bird's eye view, so you'd most likely move in all directions vs. FPS where the mouse is more for diagonal/horizonal movements. Technically, I can get the pad and turn up the y-axis sensitivity in my G500...

Well you've got me there. That sounds like a weird design choice though...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Tue, 28 December 2010, 22:20:20

Just purchased a medium sized hard mat. Needed a new mousepad, figured I'd give them a try.

Now I just need to find room on my desk...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Tue, 28 December 2010, 22:27:06

Of course right after I by it I look at the "compatibility list" and see that there's an 'x' next to my g-5 laser mouse for the mousepad I bought... Could that just be that they didn't test it, or that it just does work, somehow, with that mousepad?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ynih on Tue, 28 December 2010, 22:54:58

Hmm...i wouldn't worry about it...if all else fails, you can roll it up and store it in a container---OH WAIT, it's advertised as UN-rollable. O_O dun dun dun

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Tue, 28 December 2010, 23:01:12

Wow, didn't even notice the list. No mention of the G500 though. o.O

Quote from: ironman31;270125

Of course right after I by it I look at the "compatibility list" and see that there's an 'x' next to my g-5 laser mouse for the mousepad I bought... Could that just be that they didn't test it, or that it just does work, somehow, with that mousepad?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ynih on Tue, 28 December 2010, 23:06:15

You're probably OK for the G500, as it uses same laser as the XAI.  According to their compatibility list (http://www.gup.co.jp/work_list.pdf), only the "KAI.g2" is not compatible with that laser.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 29 December 2010, 00:09:23

Thanks for the tip. I ordered two :D

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: sixty on Wed, 29 December 2010, 01:13:11

I find it very amusing that mousepads have compatibility lists nowadays. I have really been out of the hardware loop for too long. I am suffering from old man syndrome on anything but keyboards it seems.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Wed, 29 December 2010, 04:05:49

All the good mice work on every possible surface. Only those gaming grade mice are listed on those compatibility lists.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Wed, 29 December 2010, 07:11:12

Yeah, it's hard to believe that a laser wouldn't work on just about anything. Except clear surfaces, my g-5 doesn't work on my keyboard cover or glass.

But this one does I think:   http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mouse/dp/B000HCT12O

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: J888www on Thu, 30 December 2010, 06:35:31

Quote from: BlueRain;270118

The review was saying there's more vertical friction than horizontal friction. In RTS, you get more of a bird's eye view, so you'd most likely move in all directions vs. FPS where the mouse is more for diagonal/horizonal movements. Technically, I can get the pad and turn up the y-axis sensitivity in my G500...

Not necessary to alter your mouse configuration, just turn the mouse pad 180 degrees for certain games.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Fri, 31 December 2010, 17:17:45

Arrived today. Crazy fast shipping, they sent it out a few hours after I ordered. And yes, it DOES work with my G5 laser mouse, lol.

The mouse pad looks like it's made of plastic, but it's fabric. And the vertical friction is noticeable when you rub your fingers on it, but when using a mouse it's not as easily felt.

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3017/part1293837102497.jpg)

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9053/img1342v.jpg)
edit: better picture

I LOVE it. perfect size, and definitely will NOT move, the rubber is crazy grippy.
Might upload better pictures if my girlfriend brings her camera that's much better than my phone camera.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Fri, 31 December 2010, 17:28:38

Yay for review/pictures. Any reason you picked hard, now that you have hard, would you consider the soft version?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Crypt on Fri, 31 December 2010, 17:38:51

Those sewn edges make it look super classy!  I have a steelseries QCK mass that's about $15 that I love, but these look a lot more durable.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Fri, 31 December 2010, 21:15:08

Quote from: BlueRain;271341

Yay for review/pictures. Any reason you picked hard, now that you have hard, would you consider the soft version?

I had a softer one before (a small normal mouse pad from the 90s) and I wanted to try something harder. I like it a lot and probably wouldn't want a softer one.

My only negative comment about it so far is the sharp edges. My arms rests on it and kind of scratches it.

And apparently it gets dirty pretty quickly. I have some people over and there's what looks like some dirty smudges on it that are virtually impossible to remove

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Fri, 31 December 2010, 21:18:36

If it's "just" cloth, can't you just wash it?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Fri, 31 December 2010, 22:28:29

Quote from: BlueRain;271415

If it's "just" cloth, can't you just wash it?

I'll probably just do that.

I tried using tape, it worked for the top layer of dirt. This pad is really textured and traps a lot of dust.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Fri, 31 December 2010, 23:28:09

Mines been in customs since last night, DOH! I really hope they bring it tomorrow.

and thanks for the info!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 01:26:31

I posted a better picture of the texture of the pad. I might write a review in the coming days.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 01 January 2011, 04:55:57

Quote from: ironman31;271410

My only negative comment about it so far is the sharp edges. My arms rests on it and kind of scratches it.

I've always used one of these on my right wrist to reduce that effect.

(http://www.milletsports.co.uk/productimg/17323/36810326-n.jpg)

Could you measure how thick that pad really is. It looks a little thicker than my Steelseries Qck, which I love because it's so thin.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Swede on Sat, 01 January 2011, 05:29:03

Do you guys think that this will be better than the Steelseries SX?

Mine is getting a "bit" worn, starting to see raw aluminium now :O (half a year old, talk about crappy anodizing)
But when will the g2 G Hard get in stock, anyone know?

I think its the only one that can be close to the one i have now.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: hate on Sat, 01 January 2011, 10:05:03

no black no buy, too bad cause my qck mass is dirty as hell.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 11:03:08

Quote from: db_Iodine;271532

Could you measure how thick that pad really is. It looks a little thicker than my Steelseries Qck, which I love because it's so thin.

4mm

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: theferenc on Sat, 01 January 2011, 12:13:30

Can I ask the silly question of why, exactly, people are going back to mouse pads? A decent mouse nowadays tracks on everything, including glass -- at least my logitech does.

The physics of these things coupled with a laser make no sense, relative to just using your desk/work area.

I guess I'm just too old and curmudgeny...and then there's the fact that I recently switched over to a trackball. So much better. But I'm not a gamer.

I'm not trying to troll, I'm honestly curious. Are there actual, tangible benefits to using one while gaming?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 2084 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 13:22:41

Is only the g3 pad for sale or is the cloth g2 usually more expensive too?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 13:58:42

Quote from: theferenc;271636

Can I ask the silly question of why, exactly, people are going back to mouse pads? A decent mouse nowadays tracks on everything, including glass -- at least my logitech does.

The physics of these things coupled with a laser make no sense, relative to just using your desk/work area.

I guess I'm just too old and curmudgeny...and then there's the fact that I recently switched over to a trackball. So much better. But I'm not a gamer.

I'm not trying to troll, I'm honestly curious. Are there actual, tangible benefits to using one while gaming?

I think only the logitech performance mx tracks on glass. My G5 doesn't track on anything clear and it's laser.

The reason I bought this pad was so I could have a large surface where my mouse would travel smoothly when I played games. I kept running off the edge with my previous mouse pad. And since this was 20 shipped for something supposedly "high quality", I figured I'd give it a try. And I'm glad I did, it's nice to track on.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 2084 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 14:13:52

Regarding color, it looks almost as blue as your mouse or is that just the flash? I'd rather stick with a black mat/pad

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 14:15:05

Quote from: 2084;271677

Regarding color, it looks almost as blue as your mouse or is that just the flash? I'd rather stick with a black mat/pad

It's a darker blue than the blue on my mouse. The second picture is more color accurate

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 2084 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 14:27:40

Quote from: ironman31;271678

It's a darker blue than the blue on my mouse. The second picture is more color accurate

Alright, thanks

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Sat, 01 January 2011, 15:59:32

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: J888www on Sat, 01 January 2011, 16:37:39

Quote from: ripster;271637

Show Image

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4743071638_521f59a686_z.jpg)

What Make is that mouse cord holder, plz, I ordered an exact same mouse and now looking for suitable cable holder.
TY

@ OP: Ordered two Medium in Blue/Hard surface.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: taswyn on Sat, 01 January 2011, 16:56:14

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Can I ask the silly question of why, exactly, people are going back to mouse pads? A decent mouse nowadays tracks on everything, including glass -- at least my logitech does.

Well, to start with, much like mechanical versus rubber dome, not all surfaces give the same feeling as you move a mouse across them. Worse, not all surfaces give a * consistent* glide or texture.

Also, in a similar vein, the diode and sensor in optical/laser mice may very well track on more surfaces, but some surfaces track better, and most importantly, *consistently*. Just because a mouse ~can~ track on a given surface doesn't mean it will track as well on it as another ^.^

It's moderately annoying when you're just doing some light word processing when your mouse skips a little or drags a little. It can be an actual problem for other things.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: theferenc on Sat, 01 January 2011, 17:03:25

Thank you taswyn. As I said, I'm not a gamer, and I've never had the issues you've described with mice jumping that way.

Personally, I'm not much a mouse user in general though, so it's not too surprising I haven't see that happen. I don't game, I don't do graphics work, and most of my time is spent in text editors of one sort or another.

I do definitely find it interesting that old is new again, as it were. We had a few boxes of several thousand hard topped Intel mouse pads sitting in our office until about 3 weeks ago. Couldn't figure out why on earth anyone would want them, and finally just recycled them.

I guess though, why not just use something like contact paper, and have it permanently affixed to your desk? I've even seen teflon topped contact paper, which I imagine would make a VERY nice mousing surface. And best of all, it's flush with the desk, for all intents, and so no sharp edges, you can have your keyboard overlap it with no troubles, etc.

That's always been my issue with mouse pads: they just get in the way most of the time.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 01 January 2011, 19:27:39

A good mouse pad will remove your desk's imperfections from the equation (bumps, etc). For this reason razor-thin pads that are flush with the desk have never made sense to me.

Beyond the tracking advantages they can provide gamers and those doing photo editing which are by and large the biggest reason to have one, the sensors can damage certain table surfaces over time. The desk I'm using now was originally my brothers and before he started using a mouse pad, the laser of his mouse actually started causing the material the desk tray is made of to bubble and warp.

Obviously you can use something simple like paper to circumvent this, but for those looking for a solution that also may require the other advantages that come with a mouse pad, it just makes sense to get one. :)

The damage in question:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/Vittra0/desk.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/Vittra0/desk2.jpg

Doesn't look bad in a photo, but just by passing your finger along it you can feel how bumped/warped the surface has become - and that's something your mouse sensor isn't going to like one bit.

At any rate, appreciate the thread in regards to these mouse pads! Ordered a G3 hard and soft.. looking forward to trying them out and see how they fare vs. my Func 1030, as I've been wanting to switch back to something more cloth based.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: theferenc on Sat, 01 January 2011, 19:57:52

Except I use a trackball, and before that an old sun ball mouse, and I see that exact same sort of damage on the desk in my office. Plus, the same sort of thing happened to my 12" powerbook. It even looked identical -- same pattern and everything.

It has more to do with your body chemistry than your mouse. Especially given where the damage is. Some of us are what, in the Mac community, are called "pitters" -- the aluminum on palm rests of Mac portables is pitted by our body chemisty.

I'm not saying the advantages of a mouse pad don't exist for people, just that one of your reasons doesn't seem to be one of the advantages.

Did he really use his mouse that close to the edge of the desk?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Sat, 01 January 2011, 20:19:17

for all the people that bought two, let me know when there's a FS thread. :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Sat, 01 January 2011, 21:00:27

IMO its more expensive to buy it from another person because you need to pay for the extra shipping.

Unless... he/she is willing to ignore the EMS shipping that he/she paid...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Sat, 01 January 2011, 21:36:53

The total $ shipped to US is $25 for 1 and $40 for 2 including shipping. As long as the sales price - cost of shipping is >$15, the person comes out ahead. As long as the sales price (incl. shipping) is <$25, I also come out ahead, win-win?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 002 on Sun, 02 January 2011, 00:08:19

Does anyone have the g2 u?
I stupidly ordered without checking the compatibility list and I'm using a logitech G9 so I'm a bit worried that my mouse isn't going to track properly on the surface.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: WhiteRice on Sun, 02 January 2011, 07:15:25

I ordered a hard red mat. It should go well with my ducky wrist rest. Thanks for the tip!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sun, 02 January 2011, 10:19:54

Quote from: 002;271880

Does anyone have the g2 u?
I stupidly ordered without checking the compatibility list and I'm using a logitech G9 so I'm a bit worried that my mouse isn't going to track properly on the surface.

I don't think the compatibility list means anything. The one for mine has an 'X' next to my mouse and it's working fine on the mouse pad.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: taswyn on Sun, 02 January 2011, 12:52:21

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I guess though, why not just use something like contact paper, and have it permanently affixed to your desk? I've even seen teflon topped contact paper, which I imagine would make a VERY nice mousing surface.

You *can* do that, but it only gives a very specific type of texture (what's referred to as "fast" on many gaming mouse pad lines, for obvious reasons). While this is wonderful if you like to make full arm gestures with your mouse and keep the settings at fairly low resolutions, it's not always quite so nice if you're trying to make more precise movements, since there's really no tactile feedback to the mouse as it moves on a very smooth surface.

This is where the texturized (is a words I swaers) mouse pads are so nice. It's a very consistent slightly (or very) rough texture that gives a nice amount of precise control as you're moving the mouse, so instead of feeling as if it's gliding across an oiled pan and will just keep going if you let go, it feels like you can tell exactly where you're going to be able to have it stop.

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It has more to do with your body chemistry than your mouse. Especially given where the damage is. Some of us are what, in the Mac community, are called "pitters" -- the aluminum on palm rests of Mac portables is pitted by our body chemisty.

I'm not saying the advantages of a mouse pad don't exist for people, just that one of your reasons doesn't seem to be one of the advantages.

Yes, it's something to do with some people's sweat glands apparently, I've heard of it before. I think Vittra is right, though, it actually *is* a good reason to use a mouse pad, because depending on how you hold your mouse, you may have fingers dragging along the surface under it. It's also another reason to use a wrist rest (other than possibly helping prevent carpal tunnel--yes I know that can be debated, but if your wrist would otherwise be on the desk, a rest is going to be better generally ime--which should be plenty reason enough).

If you start having issues with contact paper you've put down, it's a lot harder to just pull it up and replace than a mouse pad with a rubberized bottom is. And *good* contact paper (super teflonized--shush I claims as a words toos--, etc) can be nearly as expensive as a (cheap, but even the good ones can be had on sale now and then) mouse pad. Of course... if you wanted to get a surface (teflon contact paper/etc) a support (cloth/etc) and a non-moving base (rubber/etc) and make a ~custom~ mouse pad, then comparative cost would probably be the last of the issues. Also... pics =P

Also, while contact paper and similar material will generally do the same, a mouse pad may be better for your mouse than a desk surface (especially if you use your desk for more than just writing-ish things, it would't surprise me to hear that some of you solder/etc at your desks =P ) for wear on the mouse's teflon feet. Yes those can be replaced, and no it's not terribly expensive... but neither is a mouse pad, and imo replacing the mice feet is annoying by comparison, especially if you're picky about duplicating the factory-new feel.


^.^ I'm not campaigning to get anyone to use mouse pads (or especially these, since I've never tried them), it's VERY much a personal thing imo, just like keyboard switches, but that's some perspective on reasons you may want to try one if you do use mice. Now, if you're using mice as a power source instead of a HID, you probably want a pad for those too, but a different type and for different reasons D:  (eww)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Sun, 02 January 2011, 18:35:09

Yea... I am currently using my desk (my old mouse pad is worn out) and because I used my desk which is kind of rough wood, two of the "slidey" pads on my mouse came off :frown:

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Mon, 03 January 2011, 19:35:53

How long did the delivery phase take for you guys?

Ordered over a week ago, received the tracking code via e-mail but they gave me a 12-character code when the actual code should be 13-characters long. E-mailed them ages ago asking for the right tracking code but no reply so I'm just waiting in the dark.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 03 January 2011, 20:25:37

I ordered on a tuesday and it arrived on that friday.

And I just found out that the mousepad is also very good for keeping my CST Trackball on. I had had problems with dust getting under the rubber feet and slide around. I would constantly have to pick it up and wipe off the feet. But now it'll just stay in place on top of the mat.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Tue, 04 January 2011, 18:51:34

Grr... These guys aren't even replying to e-mails and the pad still isn't here. Probably the first and last time I buy from these guys.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Tue, 04 January 2011, 19:06:16

Well I ordered a week ago (night of the 27th I think) and it was shipped the 28th. Arrived in my city (Vancouver, Canada) the 31st and was stuck in customs. Here in Canada 1st is a Holiday (guessing it's the same there) and sunday the post doesn't run, plus monday was a bank holiday. Today it went out of customs and it still wasn't delivered for whatever reason, but hopefully tomorrow.

Maybe yours is also taking time because of prolonged 3 day weekend for postmen or its stuck in customs... I dunno. I hope they contact you back. They were great and shipped uber fast for me, only complaint is damn Canada Post.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 04 January 2011, 19:13:52

I've got this Wallace & Gromit mouse pad that I like to use. My desk isn't entirely even and has got bumps and things in it, but this mouse pad has lots of foam underneath and gives me a nice, smooth tracking surface, which is good when using a ball mouse.

The main reason why I use ball mice is they track on more surfaces. Optical mice can get a little jumpy on some mouse pads while ball mice don't care.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 002 on Tue, 04 January 2011, 19:24:33

Quote from: microsoft windows;273247

****ty, first generation optical mice from the early 2000's can get a little jumpy on some mouse pads while ball mice don't care.

^fixed.

Got my pad today, the g2, which is supposedly only compatible with like 4 mice. Works with my ancient Dell work mouse [M056UOA] so it better work with my G9.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 04 January 2011, 19:28:36

I figured that optical mice got better over the years. But nobody throws new ones out.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: taswyn on Wed, 05 January 2011, 11:31:46

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while ball mice don't care.

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while ball mice randomly decide to just stop working entirely for various reasons

Fixed for me D:

I've had ball mice fail to track on a number of surfaces before, even after cleaning the rollers =X Some just don't seem to be "grippy" enough for smoother surfaces if the rollers aren't turning very smoothly anymore and the ball slides across them instead of being turned =/

Of course, neither optical nor ball mice are particularly fond of cat hair, but at least with optical it's easy to just clean the lens quickly.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Wed, 05 January 2011, 12:04:06

Anyone got theirs yet? Still waiting for people who ordered two to sell one. :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 05 January 2011, 14:11:34

I got mine extra fast, took only 4 days! These guys are fast! I ordered three medium pads, two soft and one hard :) Three more on the way, har har. My friends love them :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 15:55:10

still waiting for mine -_-, they didn't send me any tracking number...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: polygon on Wed, 05 January 2011, 16:33:34

got mine today - the KAI.g3 HIEN - HARD. VERY relieved that the colour looks nice. I thought it would be fairly blue, their product images probably use flash photography and make it look like a fairly bright blue hue. Ironman31's post (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=271337&postcount=23) was much more accurate, but I still find it a little less bright than in his photo. In person it's a navy (dark) blue, and I love it.


Most people have said most that you need to know - come on it's a MOUSEPAD there isn't much to talk about - but I like it very much and it is much higher quality than the other ones I've used. I guess only time will tell on durability and cleaning.

Also, now at the next LAN I attend I'll be able to go: "hey look at my new mousepad, it's JAPANESE. *****." :whistle:

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 17:15:21

how many e-mails did u guys receive for this purchase? I received only 1 from paypal and that's all... not even a tracking number or confirmation...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Wed, 05 January 2011, 17:25:44

They took about 3 days with the confirmation e-mail for me.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 17:47:49

did u get a 2nd or other e-mails after receiving the receipt from paypal?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Wed, 05 January 2011, 18:28:26

Yeah, the confirmation e-mail with the tracking code. They gave me the wrong code though and I'm still waiting for them to reply with the correct one.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 002 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 19:42:15

Sounds like you guys are having more trouble than I did.
I got email from an 'Eriko' less than a day after ordering with tracking number and had no problems at all.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: riggs on Wed, 05 January 2011, 20:02:11

Do these guys carry mousepads with a palm rest?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 22:00:26

I think I ordered it during the wrong time of the year... 1st of Jan, I checked the Japanese holidays, if I am unlucky, they probably will go back to work on the 6th -_-

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: 002 on Wed, 05 January 2011, 22:04:49

Quote from: laden3;273858

if I am unlucky, they probably will go back to work on the 6th -_-

Now that you mention that, I had made a separate order for something completely unrelated to this and I only recieved a (very apologetic) response on the 4th indicating that most shops in Japan were closed between 31st and 4th/5th.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Arc'xer on Thu, 06 January 2011, 03:50:18

Speaking of the artisans has anyone mentioned the wear period on them? Or are the pads so new to the market that no one has worn them out yet.

Also any reviews on the g2? I keep seeing it mentioned as "glass or hyper glass" is it like the Icemat/Experience I-1/2?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: J888www on Thu, 06 January 2011, 08:59:06

Ordered two Med-Blue-Hard surface, it arrived within two Days, was quite surprised/amazed by EMS as I was expecting other items (LED Flashlights/Paracord yarns/M518/Blackberry) and didn't expect the mouse pads. Ordered it just before my thread in regard to Ripster's mouse cord holder and it arrived last Tuesday Morning.

It's very good. Far smoother than my SteelSeries cloth, far less scratchy than my Custom FUNC Machine billeted Aluminium and at such a price. Although the Shipping was $25, I expected the cost when I opted to purchase. These two Kai g3 have retired both my FUNC and SteelSeries. Will purchased two more  but this time in "Small-Red-Soft", but unfortunately are out of stock so need to wait.
There's not much more to add, just buy it if you need a mouse pad, it's a better buy than any other pads on the market atm.

PS: May not wait and just purchase the only small g3 available, as I quite like this particular hard surface, I found the SteelSeries to be a little too spongie in comparison.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Thu, 06 January 2011, 17:59:15

Still hasn't arrived today and still no contact. I think I will reverse the paypal transaction tonight if I don't hear back from them.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 06 January 2011, 18:33:16

They accepted my $$ on the 4th of Jan, so, I assume that they went back to work on the 5th (in Japan). I am going to wait until the 10th of Jan. Alternatively, you can buy from amazon. I just checked.... a lot of new stuffs popped up, they definitely just finished their holiday -_-

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: laden3 on Fri, 07 January 2011, 04:22:26

Just got an e-mail, the thing was shipped...

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 07 January 2011, 14:29:17

I just ordered two of these myself. One g3 hard medium blue and one g3 soft medium red. Will have to see myself if I like either of them over Steelseries SX or Qck.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Fri, 07 January 2011, 19:53:13

My mousepad finally arrived today.

Item was packed very well (hard spine envelope in bubblewrap) The mousepad is high quality and after using it for a few hours I prefer it over steelseries qck.

Only con was the poor communication with GUP and the high shipping cost.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Fri, 07 January 2011, 20:36:08

Quote from: db_Iodine;274737

I just ordered two of these myself. One g3 hard medium blue and one g3 soft medium red. Will have to see myself if I like either of them over Steelseries SX or Qck.

Which one do you like more? and why? (500 words)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Fri, 07 January 2011, 21:30:54

im too cheap to spend that much on shipping

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: xelos on Fri, 07 January 2011, 21:40:12

That's what I thought until I realized how overpriced razer and steelseries **** were. Even with the shipping cost it was still much cheaper picking up one of these instead. Based in New Zealand here where gaming mouse pads are around $50-90, paid $27 including shipping for one of these.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 08 January 2011, 02:43:01

Quote from: BlueRain;274956

Which one do you like more? and why? (500 words)

I like the surface of the SX better because it has less friction than the Qck. I usually do all my gaming on the SX because of this. I have to wipe the surface 2-3 times a week to keep it clean and if I'm feeling lazy, I'll just use my Qck for a while.

The thing I prefer on the Qck is that it's so smooth and there's no sound coming from moving the mouse, whereas I can definitely hear the movement of the mouse on the SX. So if I'm not gaming or listening to music, I always use the Qck.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: BlueRain on Sat, 08 January 2011, 03:37:56

I meant the soft version vs. the hard. :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 08 January 2011, 06:28:07

Misunderstood that then. I haven't received them yet. I'll post my thoughts on both when I do, but it might take a while since I just ordered last night right before I posted.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Sat, 08 January 2011, 06:50:04

Quote from: xelos;274972

That's what I thought until I realized how overpriced razer and steelseries **** were. Even with the shipping cost it was still much cheaper picking up one of these instead. Based in New Zealand here where gaming mouse pads are around $50-90, paid $27 including shipping for one of these.

Understandable.  I guess getting 2 pads for $41.30 isn't too terribly bad, and worth a shot...it just sucks when shipping is more than the cost of the items :(

Ordered 1 large red ARTISAN KAI.g3 HIEN - HARD and 1 large red ARTISAN KAI.g3 HIEN - SOFT since nothing else was available in large :/

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: NimbleRabit on Sun, 09 January 2011, 13:05:45

I'm curious if anybody in the US wants to share some shipping costs on these things.  We could get a few of us together and have them all shipped to somebody, who in turns could ship them out through cheaper usps shipping.

I know I should probably just go ahead and get one, but somehow I'm just not willing to double the product price for shipping.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: sixty on Sun, 09 January 2011, 13:57:02

Paid on December 30, still no mousepad nor any email from them.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Sun, 09 January 2011, 21:23:38

Similar situation, paid on January 6, no contact from them yet.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: fireglow on Thu, 13 January 2011, 01:05:04

Just got my tracking number, paid on January 6th.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: sixty on Thu, 13 January 2011, 01:16:03

Contacted them by mail and asked whats up 4 days ago, no reply.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Thu, 13 January 2011, 04:42:23

I ordered and paid for 3 more mousepads on January 5th, no contact.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Lanx on Thu, 13 January 2011, 06:04:36

you guys do know japan had a week off, and are probably just now getting back to business as usual.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Thu, 13 January 2011, 08:10:04

I just got my tracking number for two pads last night. Paid them on January 7th.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Fri, 14 January 2011, 03:46:15

Got the tracking number today.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 14 January 2011, 09:42:48

Quote from: db_Iodine;277826

I just got my tracking number for two pads last night. Paid them on January 7th.

My mousepads just arrived to Finland this afternoon. That was quick - about 28 hours after they registered the package in Japan. I have to wait till Monday for the package to actually arrive tho.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 14 January 2011, 11:44:57

It seems it takes them a while to process the order, but once you have your confirmation it arrives quite quickly. My order was placed on the 1st and confirmation was on the 12th... I wouldn't be surprised if I see them on Monday.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Fri, 14 January 2011, 12:58:07

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Sat, 15 January 2011, 10:48:14

Ordered mine on the 6th, didn't get any confirmation or shipping email, but I did get the mousepads today :D

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 15 January 2011, 13:45:18

Quote from: PikachuDX;278576

Got both of mine today. Very please with them, and much prefer the 'hard' to the 'soft'.

I hope I like the hard one better also, since it's the one I ordered in blue. I don't think a red mousepad would look good on my desk.

I just confirmed that I can pick my mousepads from my local post office on monday. I'll report my thoughts on both then.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Sat, 15 January 2011, 16:13:32

I wish I could have gotten them in blue :(

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2871/padhard.png)
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/264/padsoft.png)

I played cs for awhile today using the soft pad...it was okay.  I'll try the hard pad next time.  I've been using a funcpad f10.s for the last few months which is a hard plastic pad.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Sat, 15 January 2011, 17:30:22

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 15 January 2011, 18:11:25

nice idea

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Arc'xer on Sun, 16 January 2011, 03:41:30

Quote from: phillip;279148

I played cs for awhile today using the soft pad...it was okay.  I'll try the hard pad next time.  I've been using a funcpad f10.s for the last few months which is a hard plastic pad.

Seems like the hard version might just be the better choice for you. http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1994230 (http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1994230)

I've been keeping an eye on this pad for a while now. Unfortunately most of the reviews are Japanese and even then in severely broken English through the translator. It's at least nearly the size of puretrak about 45cm or so(large).

Though I kinda worry how much of a lasting period do these pads have if they wear out. My talent is pretty worn mostly dirty but kinda worn either way towards the southern edge. Plus I always noticed when trying to aim with the wrist it just doesn't work out too well and end up missing kinda worried getting another cloth pad and having a similar issue which becomes really annoying sometimes.

And the Kai.g2 g and I believe U-T versions also seem interesting(not as big though) to have some glass beads embedded into the surface. But no one seems to have done a review on them. Kinda worried about heavy gaming on the icemat(I-2) since it's been known to eat mice feet and it's a nice pad but I guess it's not for my style, not to say I hate it great for desktop but the way I play.(Maybe if I played my old high sensitivity way I'd probably enjoy it more)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: eXellenty on Mon, 17 January 2011, 03:10:49

I ordered one as well but didn´t receive any conformation email... I think there are too many orders and they are too busy with sending the mousepads than answering questions T.T

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Mon, 17 January 2011, 03:14:45

I just received my pads. First impressions are better on the hard than on the soft. I don't really know how to explain why it feels better, but it just does. I prefer the hard over both Steelseries SX and Qck+, but the soft might just lose to SX a bit.

One thing I immediately noticed about these pads is the friction. It's significantly different vertically and horizontally. It's actually kind of sticky with vertical movement. This isn't a big deal to me since my mouse is at high sensitivity and I have almost 6000 pixels horizontally and just 1200 vertically.

Overall I'm quite pleased with the quality of both of these pads and I'm definitely going to be using the hard pad from now on. Still pondering if the soft pad could be used somewhere else, or if it's going to stay in it's package as a good spare pad.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Mon, 17 January 2011, 08:50:25

I never got an e-mail with shipping info, but the pad just came today (hard version, blue).

First impressions are good, it's not as smooth as my ultimat, but it's half the price so I can't complain.

I definitely feel the difference in friction with vertical/horizontal movements, but overall the cloth surface provides good control without too much traction.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: eXellenty on Mon, 17 January 2011, 10:16:33

Quote from: wap32;279820

I never got an e-mail with shipping info, but the pad just came today (hard version, blue).

First impressions are good, it's not as smooth as my ultimat, but it's half the price so I can't complain.

I definitely feel the difference in friction with vertical/horizontal movements, but overall the cloth surface provides good control without too much traction.

when did you order it?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Mon, 17 January 2011, 10:39:23

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Mon, 17 January 2011, 12:09:57

Quote from: eXellenty;279855

when did you order it?

Jan 5th.

Here are some pics.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3xUqwakCw8o/TTSBKs3MO7I/AAAAAAAAAoE/SDPqjw3ivDk/s640/DSC_6166.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3VRFE9TrQRM86dscToHY-DzrNeTnYxsU8ONtORuyfho?feat=directlink)

After a little more use, I'm still not sure if I prefer it over my ultimat, which is very slick.
The Hien is like sandpaper in comparison, but the cloth texture does provide more control.
Another thing I'm curious about is how it'll hold against dirt and my sweaty hands...

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3xUqwakCw8o/TTSBLwMIyDI/AAAAAAAAAoI/ELZ2Jp3IMrM/s640/DSC_6170.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V04CYHYPixWp9GiX1OPhmTzrNeTnYxsU8ONtORuyfho?feat=directlink)

Ultimat on top, the Hien is a little wider.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3xUqwakCw8o/TTSBM9DL5mI/AAAAAAAAAoM/misgWm9ai_0/s640/DSC_6173.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/E7hNxcXPR-kqB0Gy33y0DzzrNeTnYxsU8ONtORuyfho?feat=directlink)

As it's been said, the base is made from a rubbery material that does an excellent job of keeping the pad in place, and isn't spongy at all so it provides a stable surface.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3xUqwakCw8o/TTSBOOtFaMI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/VhuEee9-6t0/s640/DSC_6174.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/j2vcrI2N_8gq5PxxkRytZjzrNeTnYxsU8ONtORuyfho?feat=directlink)

Detail of the cloth surface (click to enlarge).
As said earlier, there is more friction when moving the mouse vertically, but it's not very noticeable.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3xUqwakCw8o/TTSCN-VQ1nI/AAAAAAAAAoY/9eo1_F-NoCc/s640/DSC_6181.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/czJ9oWOLjYBCqk-_MEeo3zzrNeTnYxsU8ONtORuyfho?feat=directlink)

Overall it's a pretty good pad for the price, definitely much better other cloth pads I've tried.
However, if you're looking for a slick, gliding surface, you might want to look somewhere else.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: eXellenty on Mon, 17 January 2011, 13:31:59

if i receive my pad i will order some more and sell them because it looks like the pad is really solid

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 17 January 2011, 13:46:02

What kind of keyboard do you have? Looks like an MX11800 with black keycaps. Looks pretty sweet!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 17 January 2011, 14:38:08

Quote from: keyboardlover;279955

What kind of keyboard do you have? Looks like an MX11800 with black keycaps. Looks pretty sweet!

Looks like the round 1 keycaps

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Mon, 17 January 2011, 15:00:57

Quote from: keyboardlover;279955

What kind of keyboard do you have? Looks like an MX11800 with black keycaps. Looks pretty sweet!

It's the round 1 keyset as ironman31 pointed out.
Unfortunately, the MX11800 doesn't have a Windows key and mine is ISO, so the whole bottom row and Shift keys don't fit.
Makes for a wired white/grey/black combo.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 17 January 2011, 17:24:31

I like it. Nice keyboard choice.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Mon, 17 January 2011, 17:42:53

Quote from: keyboardlover;280068

I like it. Nice keyboard choice.

Thanks.
I was close to buying a more expensive Filco Zero instead.
I'm glad I didn't because I like the PCB mount browns a lot and I don't think the white XMs would suit me.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 17 January 2011, 18:11:55

PCB browns FTW! The MX11800 is one of the few keyboards I've owned that I wish I hadn't sold. I plan to pick up a clean one of them someday. If they had 6kro they would be in my top keyboard list.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: eXellenty on Tue, 18 January 2011, 03:54:52

ordered my at the 14th and got my tracking code today. they sent it yesterday.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:41:38

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: sixty on Tue, 18 January 2011, 11:44:42

So mine is in German customs, LOL. I am now actually pretty confident I am on a black list or something, if even cheap junk like this ends up in customs. I calculated out that I will have to pay around 1 Euro in fees. You are joking, right DHL?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: wap32 on Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:27:12

Quote from: PikachuDX;280434

Good choice on the cans. ;)

Indeed. =)
But they do need an amp to sound their best.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Arc'xer on Tue, 18 January 2011, 13:14:32

Quote from: ripster;280441

I'm not getting what makes this one so iketeiru (Iketeiru is better than Otaku).  The rough one looks way too slow.  The other one looks like a standard mouse pad.

Different surfaces produce different results. Not all of them are the same. Some are more rough, slick, smooth etc.etc. Some mice have improved tracking on them with different surfaces and in some cases worse. Same with hard pads not all of them have the same or similar surface.

The ripper xxl is quite thin at 1/8" not everyone likes thin pads which produce different results from thick pads.

As for the basic generic look. Some have mentioned the company releases periodic refreshes per year or something and on the prior models had no markings but they have been adding their logo at the bottom.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: killy on Tue, 18 January 2011, 17:39:41

I bought a 'hard' red one, because it was $20 USD ... and why not?

Ripster: Although a lot of crap on their website may seem like lies, I can actually smell hints of polymer science and engineering in what they're saying. Hard to believe, I know... and again, not sure if it can translate into real world differences.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Thu, 20 January 2011, 01:48:59

My package got held up in the customs. Let's hope I don't have to pay import tax :P

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: killy on Thu, 20 January 2011, 19:02:43

Took one day to get from Japan to Canada ... now it will spend a week collecting dust at customs.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Fri, 21 January 2011, 01:08:36

Picked up my pads yesterday. The L size is huge!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Arc'xer on Fri, 21 January 2011, 02:06:09

Quote from: Half-Saint;282144

Picked up my pads yesterday. The L size is huge!

Wonder if they will do a larger size considering they are right on the money for the sizes chosen. Though for some 45cmx35cm, doesn't cut it.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Arc'xer on Fri, 21 January 2011, 02:16:08

Quote from: Half-Saint;282144

Picked up my pads yesterday. The L size is huge!

Wonder if they will make a larger version considering for some 45cmx30cm just doesn't cut it.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: PikachuDX on Fri, 21 January 2011, 07:09:10

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Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 21 January 2011, 10:50:39

I've been using the KAI g3 soft the past few days, it's quite nice. My Dell Tactx (G9x variant) glides over it rather smoothly compared to traditional cloth pads, with just enough friction to provide an appreciable amount of control.

I'll be trying the KAI g3 hard over the next few days for comparison purposes.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 21 January 2011, 13:01:14

Quote from: Vittra;282307

I've been using the KAI g3 soft the past few days, it's quite nice. My Dell Tactx (G9x variant) glides over it rather smoothly compared to traditional cloth pads, with just enough friction to provide an appreciable amount of control.

I'll be trying the KAI g3 hard over the next few days for comparison purposes.

The hard one has noticeably less friction than the soft. For this reason I really like the hard one a lot. It's got to be the best mouse pad I've ever used.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Vittra on Fri, 21 January 2011, 13:23:23

I imagined that would be the case based on peoples opinons and what I've been reading, yes. Looking foward to trying it out moreso than the soft really. Although I'm fond of cloth pads, I've been using a hard pad for the past year or so (Func 1030 Archtype) and i've really come to appreciate the smooth, unrestricted glide of hard surface pads. I'm interested to see how the KAI hard will measure up to the Func 1030 Archetype. A hard surface with just a slight amount of friction to provide some measure of control would be perfect for me.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 21 January 2011, 13:38:37

The hard g3 is still a cloth pad. The surface is just harder than the surface on soft.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: killy on Tue, 25 January 2011, 20:05:09

So I have the hard red Kai.G3 HEIN (what a mouthful).

First impressions: the pad itself is a lot stiffer than the Qck medium I have previously. It feels like it has a lot more substance, and when I lifted the Qck I realized how flimsy it is. The surface has a highly irregular pattern in the weave.

The top is a lot smoother than the Qck, and its stiffness also contributes to that.

Overall, while I had no problem with the Qck, if I had to pick I would probably pick the Hien.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Mon, 21 February 2011, 02:20:04

I just unpacked the first G3 MEDIUM HARD and played a couple of hours of Team Fortress 2. A pleasant surprise!

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: delgo on Thu, 24 March 2011, 18:37:09

I hope I do not bump something that should not be bumped but I am really wondering if you want an O or a X next to your mouse for it to work with it?

In the list: work list (http://www.gup.co.jp/work_list.pdf)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: HaveANiceDay on Thu, 24 March 2011, 18:47:17

Experience in Japanese video games tells me that O is yes and X is no.
Those menus are awkward to navigate when you are accustomed to press X to accept.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: delgo on Thu, 24 March 2011, 18:49:35

Thanks for the fast answer, I thought the same as you until I read that a poster on the first and second page called ironman31 bought one which had a X with his mouse and from what it seems it worked fine?

Although I am pretty sure it is as you say

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: suntorytime on Thu, 24 March 2011, 21:31:11

Just for reference though, I can confirm the original death adder optical and death adder 3.5g both work absolutely fine on the KAI.g2 U, whereas it's marked X on the list. So i wouldn't entirely trust that list. I can also test my Ikari laser on it later if anyone wants.

Edit: Can also test mouse performance on a G3 surface with following mice: ikari, IE3.0, DA/Black edition, g9, naga, orochi.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: CeeSA on Fri, 25 March 2011, 12:57:08

they should offer XL sizes. why stop with L

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Fri, 25 March 2011, 14:05:07

Agreed.  I run out of room quickly on the L pad

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Half-Saint on Mon, 28 March 2011, 00:23:04

I don't get it. How big are your hand movements??

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: CeeSA on Mon, 28 March 2011, 03:50:23

Currently I use a mouse pad 483mm x 356mm.
before that my mouse pad was 420mm x ???mm and I am often come to the edge

6cm more or less can make all the difference ;)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Mon, 28 March 2011, 08:29:27

Quote from: Half-Saint;319897

I don't get it. How big are your hand movements??

Big enough.  I play counterstrike with low sensitivity :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: qvindtar on Mon, 28 March 2011, 18:53:16

This forum is evil. I don't even need a new mousepad. But I got a big red one comin' in the mail.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: paat on Tue, 29 March 2011, 02:21:14

Just ordered one yesterday. I'm curious about it. :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Tue, 29 March 2011, 09:55:01

I really liked mine, but I ended up switching back to a supermat yesterday.  I kinda wanted to go back to the qck heavy because it's the biggest pad I have but it looks so gross with what I assume is skin dust on it lol

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Parabellum on Tue, 29 March 2011, 14:36:46

Durability, anyone?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Tue, 29 March 2011, 15:40:40

No issues or markings on mine with heavy use for however long I've had it

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: CephalicCarnage on Thu, 31 March 2011, 19:08:22

The stitching around the edges is a nice touch.  I suspect it will hold up for quite long.  However, after testing mine for about a month, I went back to a hard plastic mat and enjoy the slick glide much more.

Currently testing steelseries 4HD.
Think I may buy a Vespula next.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: awry on Fri, 01 April 2011, 13:04:34

I have the k3 hard as well as the new shiden in white. lucky shipping to my country is relatively cheaper. If what you're looking for is smooth and fast gliding, the HDs from SS are better. Artisan has better control though. And the K3's grip is freaking amazing. I have no idea what they use for their bottoms but if you push the mat diagonally, most likely your desktop would move instead of the pad.

The shidens, you have to wear them in. When you first get them, they are like sandpaper. And not in a good way. You can probably hear your mousefeet crying while breaking the mats in. Once broken in they are smoother than the K3s but still not as smooth as the HDs. Also, the grip they use for shiden are not the same as the K3s.

But for either mat, you can feel the quality from them. The corners of the K3s do bite though. Hope this helps.

Oh yeah, @Cephalic, don't bother with the Vespula. I have that as well. Big mistake. Waste of money. It's the exact mat and the rest isn't as comfortable as you think. but you really want something like that. Get the Roccat aluminic. That is one sweet looking mat.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: explicit on Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:00:57

So, i got myself two of these pads about the same time as i bought my Cherry MX boards. 2 months later the fabric has been collecting skin, fat/oil etc from my hand and if i scratch the surface with a nail or something similar it turns from blue to a more white-ish color in the area where my bare hand would be resting.

HOW would i go about cleaning the mousepad? Only pad i've owned before this one was a func mat that was plastic, so im new to the whole fabric/foam mats.

Suggestions?

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: phillip on Fri, 01 April 2011, 14:19:04

scrub more when you shower :)

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: awry on Fri, 01 April 2011, 16:51:09

@explicit What in the world do you do with your mouse pads?? haha

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: CephalicCarnage on Fri, 01 April 2011, 17:46:41

Thanks for the tip awry!

Quote from: explicit;322875

So, i got myself two of these pads about the same time as i bought my Cherry MX boards. 2 months later the fabric has been collecting skin, fat/oil etc from my hand and if i scratch the surface with a nail or something similar it turns from blue to a more white-ish color in the area where my bare hand would be resting.

HOW would i go about cleaning the mousepad? Only pad i've owned before this one was a func mat that was plastic, so im new to the whole fabric/foam mats.

Suggestions?

Copy/pasted from their facebook page:

How to wash KAI.g2 U / KAI.g3 HIEN


by Artisan gaming mouse pad (http://www.facebook.com/artisanjp) on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 at 2:29pm

It is possible to wash out the Mousepad by yourself.  
 
First, place the Mousepad on flat, so you could soak it evenly in clean
water.
 
1. Soak the Mousepad in slightly heated water.  do not bend the Mousepad
at the same time.
 
2. Place diluted detergent where you wish to clean.(It would be the best
if you use sensitive care detergents.)
    Then, gently, stroke the dirty surface with your palm.
 
3. Wash out detergent cleanly with lukewarm water.  Repeat the processes
if it is necessary.
 
4. Swab dribbled water with towels or other materials that could soak up
moisture.
 
5. Put the Mousepad on towels or some others flatly.  The table should
be very flat and away from direct sunlights.
 
 
Depends on the weather condition or temperature, it should be dried out
within 2-3 hours.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: awry on Fri, 01 April 2011, 21:51:21

Think i shall wait for someone to try it out first before washing mine.. =]

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: applescript on Fri, 01 April 2011, 22:47:52

Just got my KAI.g3 HIEN Value Edition! But I dont like the noise it produces when you drag the mouse.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Sun, 25 September 2011, 21:23:46

I will try this out and post back results

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 26 September 2011, 02:08:08

Is their website still up? The english link is not available, and I can't read japanese enough to know what's going on.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: CeeSA on Mon, 26 September 2011, 04:49:43

try this one:
http://www.gup.co.jp/artisan/cloth_ov.html

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: dreamingftw on Mon, 26 September 2011, 11:26:55

I also saw these mouse pads on Amazon.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Bilbin on Mon, 26 September 2011, 21:02:32

I'm still waiting for an XL version.

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: Clickey on Tue, 27 September 2011, 01:14:08

Dead link for me, can someone repost? Thanks.

Edit: Nm I see Ceesa's now a couple pages ago

Title: High quality japanese mouse pads on SALE
Post by: ironman31 on Tue, 27 September 2011, 17:37:00

Quote from: Clickey;421903

Dead link for me, can someone repost? Thanks.

CeeSa's didn't work?