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Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Mon, 03 January 2011, 21:15:32
I dont want start another bragging war, but what year where the model m space saver introduced?

My model is from 1987 and I have yet to see an earlier one
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Mon, 03 January 2011, 21:25:48
I see... I can be certain that 87 was the initial year unless someone busts out a 86 space saver
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: jpc on Mon, 03 January 2011, 22:02:20
clickykeyboards.com lists every SSK they've sold. None are older than '87.

I read somewhere that IBM introduced the SSK to coincide with the PS/2 line of computers in 1987. That would make logical sense. PS/2 desktop systems were physically smaller than the PC, XT, or AT.
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Mon, 03 January 2011, 22:11:41
Thats a wonderful observation
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: Sam on Mon, 03 January 2011, 22:34:36
Looks like 1987.6.4 is the earliest SpaceSaver sold by clickykeyboards:

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/243752 (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/243752)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: MissileMike on Mon, 03 January 2011, 22:44:03
I had 3 from 1987, but sold the one to KB that he's referring to.  I will have to check the dates of my remaining two, but I believe they're both late 87.

Whatever date they are, I like them a lot :)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 04 January 2011, 00:38:41
Quote from: ripster;272703
Well,  BigPook sold me his 12/116/91 Bernie Madoff Special.  


Is that the Mayan calendar?
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 04 January 2011, 01:29:15
Quote from: ripster;272773
My CPA Bernie always did juggle the numbers.

Anyway I have the right to report you now for Grammer Naziisms.  Especially when I am the Anne Frank of keyboards.


Aw, at least get it right. The last post was a numeric harangue. This post is grammar nazi-ism, semantics.
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 04 January 2011, 06:05:35
Showed up in 1987 to coincide with either the PS/2 or 3151 terminal. Not sure which came first.
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 04 January 2011, 06:07:42
Quote from: Sam;272730
Looks like 1987.6.4 is the earliest SpaceSaver sold by clickykeyboards:

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/243752 (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/243752)


The earliest IBM Spacesaver on clickykeyboards is from 1994. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/10943/subcatid/0/id/236283)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Tue, 04 January 2011, 08:26:54
Quote from: ch_123;272866
The earliest IBM Spacesaver on clickykeyboards is from 1994. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/10943/subcatid/0/id/236283)


I think by earliest he means oldest
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: MissileMike on Tue, 04 January 2011, 09:31:40
Hey, I have one from May of 1987.  Maybe that's the oldest one known?

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14512&stc=1&d=1294155071)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Tue, 04 January 2011, 09:50:44
That has plenty of WIN!
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: MissileMike on Tue, 04 January 2011, 09:52:36
Are you still liking yours, KillerBee?  I have ducky, filco, etc, but I always seem to return to my beige master!
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 04 January 2011, 13:27:19
Quote from: ch_123;272866
The earliest IBM Spacesaver on clickykeyboards is from 1994.
I think by IBM Spacesaver he means IBM Model M Space Saving Keyboard, not the type of rubber dome keyboard Unicomp currently sells as the Mighty Mouse - the M13, IIRC.
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: KillerBee on Tue, 04 January 2011, 13:55:39
Quote from: MissileMike;272923
Are you still liking yours, KillerBee?  I have ducky, filco, etc, but I always seem to return to my beige master!


its my daily board... at my house

But there are plenty instances where I miss the numpad
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: Sam on Sun, 24 April 2011, 23:23:52
I just remembered this thread.  After posting my summary of sales of SSKs a few days ago, I realized that one of the very recent eBay sales was for the earliest known SSK, 1987.5.13, beating MissleMike's by 16 days and selling for a very cheap $75.
Link to GH thread (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?17190-Cheap-Model-M-space-saver)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: snerual on Mon, 25 April 2011, 11:09:32
How could I have missed this thread?

Anyway, I also have a 1392980 made 29 May 1987. Same day as MissileMike's board. Based on the ID No I assume Mike's 2980 is a bit older.

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6873/sskmay87.jpg)
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 25 April 2011, 14:04:45
Quote from: KillerBee;272893
I think by earliest he means oldest

 
But that is the the oldest IBM Spacesaver on clickykeyboards :3

Oldest IBM Spacesaver would be 1993.
Title: Model M Space Saver Introduction Year?
Post by: Sam on Mon, 25 April 2011, 17:52:00
Quote from: ripster;336967
I like the IBM Space SAVING keyboards with functional drainage channels myself.

Makes me feel Industrious.
Show Image
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5222/5654347188_3b1052f220_z.jpg)

Oh, part number 41G3600.  The one that just recently sold on eBay was a 1395682.  So there's two different models of the Industrial SSKs.  Yours is a Lexmark, while the 1395682 (at least the one sold by Clickykeyboards) is a "full IBM".  Yeah, I know, made at the same place, but I still prefer keyboards without the word "Lexmark" printed anyplace.  Regardless, would gladly take either.  How much you selling your Industrial Mini for again?  I'd really be interested in a package deal of your Industrial and your Bernie Madoff special.  They seem to be two of the rarest Minis.

BTW, due to you and ch_123 pointing out the incorrect use of the term "space saver" by many of us, I've been doing my best to avoid that term, and calling it by it's proper name, "Space Saving Keyboard" or SSK for short.