How about this one?
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=624 (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=624)
Or just the the DAS. I use mine for gamung too and it's great.
Try a sidewinder X4 - not MX Brown but feels very close imo and has usb NKRO.
Any good gaming grade keyboards with brown switches that are 10keyless and READILY AVAILBLE?
No trolling, please. X4 is dome, is known to have ghosting issues, and has extra features I neither want nor need.
Hey gang!
I am the researcher behind the Sidewinder X4 anti-ghosting technology. I wanted to clear up some misconceptions I've noticed in this forum.
The "ghosting" referred to in the quote above is not from the keyboard. That's a software bug on the PC side. You can see the same behavior with competitive USB keyboards that report large number of keys. For what it's worth, I have only seen this behavior when you exceed 11 simultaneous keys from a single keyboard, so it's probably not much of an issue for most people. This is all discussed on our web site:
http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/SideWinderX4.mspx (http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/SideWinderX4.mspx)
On that page, you'll see that we fully document what X4 can and cannot do. The people in this forum seem to be unusually well informed about keyboard issues, so I hope you'll appreciate having all this information plainly stated.
In addition to this, there has been some misinformation about how X4 works. We add a fixed resistor in series with each key. Every resistor is nominally the same value, although this is not critical. Ultimately, the system is just making on/off measurements, checking to see if a current exceeds a simple threshold. I know this is quite an innovation in the keyboard space, but this type of technique is how many multitouch systems work and has been used for decades in industrial sensors (e.g. Tekscan).
In order to help cut through the confusion, we've put up a browser based keyboard tester. You can find it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx (http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx)
It's capabilities will depend somewhat on what browser and what operating system you are using. But it should be good enough to give most people a quick way to test their keyboards for obvious problems. Here's what I do when I want to show just how bad most keyboards are:
Press and hold ASDW. Now try pressing every other key while continuing to hold ASDW. You will probably find a number of keys that don't work. When you find these, try releasing some of the ASDW keys. You will probably be able to narrow it down to specific 3-key combinations that don't work.
Anyhow, I hope this is helpful!
I had the X4 before I bought a filco with cherry blues, to be honest I thought it was excellent for a rubber dome, certainly no kro issues that I am aware of. (maybe you are thinking of the X6 ?)
In saying that now I have my filco it's like night and day, so much better.
**weird did you edit your original post I am sure you said kro***
Anyway. I did not notice any ghosting issues and I believe there is a post somewhere discussing this.
I have many mechanical keyboards, I wouldn't downgrade to a dome. I also wasn't open to alternatives to cherry browns... and I was pretty specific.
Yeah, me neither. Just responding to your comments on the X4.
But does it really have to be a tenkeyless?Well that was the whole point of the thread, to find something tenkeyless with browns. I know of a great keyboard that meets my needs that has tenkey... I'm just looking for tenkeyless options.
"According to the Elitekeyboards newsletter, the keyboard is currently scheduled for January or February 2011"
Still, I have no aspirations of owning a dome. Regardless of how close they are, it's not browns. having tried browns, greens, blacks, and blues, I'm VERY particular about browns now.
Cool story bro, I think you've established that about five times now. Just saiyan.Show Image(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/SwordSaint892/Gif/GokuSuperSaiyansmaller.gif)
And yet somehow I got a recommendation for a dome board.
I am pretty settled on the Leopold, as it gives me some time to save up and should meet my needs for a good gaming keyboard and the led placement is very nice as well.
Yeah, you did, and you commented on the fact that you did three times. Bit superfluous and unnecessary, we get it.
Good choice with the Leopold though, if you can wait.
Was ist das? Das ist meine Tastatur, Das Keyboard.
DK for Das Keyboard would be a bit confusing around here. There is a keyboard called the DKSaver from the KBDMania guys.
this will take a while to load, the reason I don't hang around there...
Or, if you're lazy, Imgur has an upload by URL option that you can paste the URL into. Usually works, but Imgur has been flaky as of late on the uploader for me.
So what would be better, filco majestouch or the fc200r? I suppose either might be doable then.
Out of those two I would choose the one that's cheaper.
90 pounds is 139.896 USD. Not sure where you got your currency conversion from.
Nameless, I'm not sure what about that keyboard layout is non-standard. The vertical navigation scheme is used in lots of places, and it's relatively easy to swap super and alt back to the windows-standard locations, rather than the mac-standard locations.
I actually rather like the looks of that keyboard. Too bad it's more ANSI and less UNIX.
I'm also assuming (please correct if wrong) that vat is collected by the receiving country,
This is why Manyak had to takedown all the key images from the OCN Mechanical Keyboard Guide. Looks WEIRD now. (http://www.overclock.net/6009482-post3.html) I'd say embarrassing.
After reading about some really really weird issues with the Leopold (namely with stuff or repeating keys or something to do with pause) I decided not to wait for an unknown and just bought another das keyboard. Here's the best part, I got it for seventy dollars.
Yeah, it does seem like Majestouch is taking a while. He shoulda just filled up this suitcases while in Japan.
You won't regret it.