It would be insane, under any circumstances, and for any reason, to move to a country without free elections, a free press, and an independent judiciary. Essentially, it potentially amounts to suicide to voluntarily move to a place where one would not be free.
While I get the (dumb) joke, it makes no sense. In America we do have free elections, a free press, and an independent judiciary. It's all written into our Constitution; an important document that our current president has chosen to all but dismiss. But that's why the American people have thrown his party out of power. We are free enough to have the power to do that. Are you?
Less votes - winner...
Wikileaks?
Justice system doing justice?
So what?? None of them make us look bad. There's hundreds of documents. Have you read them all? Also, what that guy did was illegal, which is why he's in hiding right now. Imagine if he'd leaked documents showing European secrets - it'd be the same fiasco!
Please set down the Fox news a bit and consider that it is the height of stupidity to defend free speech in one post, then condemn someone for doing just that.
There's a difference between 'freedom of speech' and 'treason'. Learn the difference, then assemble a somewhat intelligent reply.
Umm, how on earth someone who isn't citizen of country can commit treason? Not every person in world is an american...
Manning commited an treason and it's right to prosecute him, Assange on other hand, haven't he just like to share information...
Also, there has been some not so free laws after 2001 and a few unprovoked wars... Also do your airports look like ones of free country, or some jails for "terrorist".
There's a difference between 'freedom of speech' and 'treason'. Learn the difference, then assemble a somewhat intelligent reply.
Rather undirected whistleblowing if you ask me. Some tech sergeant sticks a USB thumb drive in and downloads whatever he can.
And then Assange determines what and when it comes out for maximum political effect for whatever agenda he has.
Well that's a good point...the illegality really comes into play in terms of "sharing" documents which are, knowingly, "classified". That is definitely illegal in this country.
i love it when my harmless threads turn into political battlegrounds. FWIW, Canada is the best country in the world, second to panda land.Good. Come here instead, and you won't have to worry about being thrown into a "black prison" for going to the nation's capital to attempt to complain about a corrupt local official.
1. It is by definition that an Australian (or any other foreign national) cannot be tried for treason in the United States unless he or she is legally an American.This is certainly quite true.
Cheers from Finland.
I think, though, that the poster just got "espionage" and "treason" mixed up.
As to the other points - so far, Wikileaks hasn't been releasing the sorts of things that some people have noted would be dangerous - i.e. the identities of people in repressive countries that have given information about abuses in their countries, or about dissidents in their countries and their fates, to American diplomats. If they had done that, I wouldn't see this as a free speech issue at all.
So far, while they are releasing classified material, which is generally illegal, one might recall the case of the Pentagon Papers. The New York Times wasn't successfully prosecuted for that one. However, since then, some laws were amended under Reagan... and Obama seems fully comfortable with making use of the new legal framework that Reagan gave him.
This might be surprising to some.
Good. Come here instead, and you won't have to worry about being thrown into a "black prison" for going to the nation's capital to attempt to complain about a corrupt local official.
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Oh. Too bad.
I have considered the pros and cons about moving to china and its safe to say that I will not be leaving pandaland.I'm confused. Doesn't that mean you've rejected the idea of moving from China? After all, that's where all the pandas come from, which is why they started appearing in zoos in the west after the thaw in relations with China.
I'm confused. Doesn't that mean you've rejected the idea of moving from China? After all, that's where all the pandas come from, which is why they started appearing in zoos in the west after the thaw in relations with China.
It's not a problem if you have all gold fillings like I do.
And here I was thinking we'd all be Japanese in the future.
Australian toilets disappointed me there.
I wonder how whales recalibrate since they use magnetic north?
Edit: Oh good. The Whales are saved (unless the damn Chinese and Japanese get to them all first). (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/animals.html)
Unless you currently live in North Korea or Somalia, you should not move to China. I wouldn't even want to visit a country with as many human rights violations as China.