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Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: typo on Sat, 08 January 2011, 23:46:00: it's my favorite chair. the problem is there is some play in all the various "joints". not being normal, this bothers me. it has been serviced and then replaced. same thing with new one. i guess that is just how it is and would not bother most people.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: msiegel on Sat, 08 January 2011, 23:55:03: -_-
does that mean it's time for... chairhack?
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: woody on Sun, 09 January 2011, 03:17:24: Flashy, but no headrest.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 09 January 2011, 04:03:39: I'd like to try the Embody to see if it's better than the Aeron. I really loved the Aeron and am considering buying one.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: Voixdelion on Sun, 09 January 2011, 11:14:26: FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM!! Can't say it enough; it's the best damn chair ever!! Does no one else share my passion for its awesomeness?
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: iMav on Sun, 09 January 2011, 11:21:12: I have the Jerrik swivel chair from Ikea and absolutely love it.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: NAVIWORLDINC on Sun, 09 January 2011, 13:18:11: I just have a simple task/artist chair, good for when I am playing guitar... I think it only cost me about 30 bucks at target, it is really cheap but very supportive, doesn't wobble and provides stiff back support. Not very comfortable, which is good because it helps me not stay on the computer for days on end.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: kps on Sun, 09 January 2011, 14:22:35: “Female secretaries sat in terribly uncomfortable chairs, but sat in them longer than their superiors. The philosophy behind Aeron was democratic: the person who sits longest deserves the most comfortable chair.”

And all over the world, bosses bought $1000 Aerons for the peons, and relegated the $25 chairs to the corner offices & boardrooms.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: typo on Sun, 09 January 2011, 21:30:43: the executive with the adjustable arms and headrest is pushing 3 grand.
yeah, there might be better chairs for less money. owning it i feel it should be perfect for that money. the back has a little play before the spring engages. the arms have a little play between each notch. the seat slides back and forth a few mm before it catches. it is however, very comfortable for me sitting 100 hours a week or so. i think i am complaining because people that would spend that on a chair might tend to be anal.

i have a hon desk, i don't know about their chairs. the desk is fantastic. if i did not actually need a desk for use i'd have a jens risim desk lol. talk about something that is a lot of money and does not offer much use....

well, the chairs in this thread look cool but they are not exactly the principle of the aeron which is what sets it apart. so i guess the worms come with the pie then.

edit: i see the price of the chair is now much less. that just adds insult to injury. i do not think they have the adjustable arms or headrest anymore though. probably because they sucked.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: instantkamera on Sun, 09 January 2011, 21:37:50: Quote from: ripster;275579
Steelcase Leap. Build Steelcase Tough!
Show Image
(http://www.steelcase.com/en/products/Category/Seating/task/leap/PublishingImages/Leap%20banner.jpg)

want.

nay ... NEED. I still in a chair for 10 hours a day. I really need to find something like this in Canada.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: Voixdelion on Sun, 09 January 2011, 21:49:53: Really? I'm alone in Freedom Chair fandom? Has it been examined and rejected by this lot or has it just not crossed anyone's radar? Dig this look at the Leap, the Aeron and Freedom in this article from Wired Magazine: The Hot Seat. (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/chairs_pr.html)

The good news is I saw a couple of em going for around $350 for the basic model just last week. If I can get the gel seat on that thing for under $550 I may have to sell a few keyboards to snag it...
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Post by: isp on Sun, 09 January 2011, 22:12:29: I'd like to try one of the freedoms, the headrest looks nice

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4764/freedompeople6med.jpg)
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: polygon on Mon, 10 January 2011, 00:12:42: hey guys I've been thinking about this. Is it better to have your feet on a foot stool / rest or on the ground. I love having my feet up, not sure if it's advised though. Also, I need a new chair and planning on getting a ergotron arm.

I recently started putting my LCD monitor on a stack of books so that they were more accurately eye-level. Until I get a lcd arm.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: typo on Mon, 10 January 2011, 23:14:35: stool i'd say but i am not an orthopedist. the other places my feet would end up just make me sore. i tend to cross my legs under the chair. now that is bad posture.

i also realised the original aeron chair must have been more money because it had more "features". now, i'd look at something else. the thing does not even tilt anymore! not that it tilted much anyways. i guess i have nothing to complain about then after all.
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Post by: aynjell on Mon, 10 January 2011, 23:38:43: This is a subject I'll soon have to begin researching. In april I'll be investing just short of three grand on a desk and chair, and if any is leftover after absolutely splurging, I'll be sure to buy other things for my man cave but for now, comfort must be in spades for my desk. It's where I spend most of my time.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: aynjell on Tue, 11 January 2011, 15:27:35: After googling around, I've decided I don't like the steelcase leap because of the arm rests. I never liked the aeron's... they're just not comfortable for me. I will need to try the humanscale freedom though. It looks really good!
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: Voixdelion on Mon, 17 January 2011, 03:15:03: Quote from: polygon;275973
hey guys I've been thinking about this. Is it better to have your feet on a foot stool / rest or on the ground. I love having my feet up, not sure if it's advised though. .

I saw a nifty little device that was sort of like the Freedom chair in terms of the idea that the best thing for overall circulatory/body health was actually the ability to move even though you (or your feet) were "at rest". It caught my attention but IIRC it was out of my budget for a footrest, despite it sounding like a marvelous solution. I'll see if I can find it again, but it was kinda lke an under-desk skateboard for resting your feet on and it might be what you're looking for. It had gotten some very good feedback though. I'll edit in a link here to the page (http://www.thewebble.com/) if I can find it ...

Ah yes - Its called a "Webble" Active Foot Rest. Intriguing notion, and probably would suit my tendency to fidget around the feet when sitting. Although I also like the idea of the rocker type rest from Humanscale also (http://www.humanscale.com/products/category_detail.cfm?category=foot_rests). But I think the webble would be more flexible in the long run.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: Voixdelion on Mon, 17 January 2011, 03:39:49: Quote from: isp;275943
I'd like to try one of the freedoms, the headrest looks nice

Actually the thing I liked most about it was the reclining ability- and that one didn't even have the headrest, but the back support was stellar even so. The way the Wired guy talks about the headrest though I can just imagine what that added benefit would be like:

"Unlike the Leap and the Aeron, the Freedom will tilt back - way back. You can lean back smoothly, as far as in a barber's chair, and, cunningly propelled by a long steel push-rod, a curved, upholstered Freedom headrest sways up like a cobra's hood to grasp your grateful nape. With a Freedom, you don't merely have a second spine - you have a second neck. "
I think the Gel seat option is really a must though; even my Tempurpedic seems to have some butt pressure points when I sit on the edge of it as opposed to laying down, but I sat on that chair for almost 36 hours without one cheek falling asleep.I dunno if I'd say it was "like sitting in a puddle of my own flesh" as the article claims, but there was a noticeable lack of need to do the weight shifty-butt shuffle that was the real reason I was so impressed with it. I've no idea what the regular cushion is like, though I would imagine it would also suffer from some compaction issues over time unlike the gel seat -( which was already surprisngly thin - maybe why I liked its aesthetics too, but it was much more support-ish than cushion-ish, if you get my meaning)
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: mike on Mon, 17 January 2011, 06:44:18: Quote from: db_Iodine;275594
I'd like to try the Embody to see if it's better than the Aeron. I really loved the Aeron and am considering buying one.

It is very, very good although it's a bit spooky how self adjustable it is - as you wiggle in the seat, it wiggles with you.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: firestorm on Mon, 17 January 2011, 07:59:33: I don't know what it's like to have a truly good chair. When I started here, I got a 10-20 year old hand-me-down. When they bought and rehabbed this building, everything was bought new. Even though there were bids for Herman Miller, Steelcase and Hayworth (all Michigan based, in our "neighborhood") for about the same overall price, they went with the more expensive Knoll. The reasoning... the furniture went together like Legos, so the initial install was faster. The chairs are cheap (20% of the arm rests broken within a year) and the office panels wobble if you push on them.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: bugfix on Mon, 17 January 2011, 08:22:39: I have the HÅG H05. Best chair ever.

(http://www.hag-deutschland.de/ProductCatalog/Media/7/7718/hag-h05-5600_medium.jpg)
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: mike on Mon, 17 January 2011, 11:26:25: Quote from: Voixdelion;279757

"Unlike the Leap and the Aeron, the Freedom will tilt back - way back. You can lean back smoothly, as far as in a barber's chair, and, cunningly propelled by a long steel push-rod, a curved, upholstered Freedom headrest sways up like a cobra's hood to grasp your grateful nape. With a Freedom, you don't merely have a second spine - you have a second neck. "

Without intending to criticise the Freedom (never tried it so can't comment), I'd be mistrustful of any reviewer who claims the Aeron doesn't tilt. Perhaps their Aeron had the tilt lock on and they didn't check?
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: panda-R on Mon, 17 January 2011, 13:05:51: where can i purchase the aeron for cheap?
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 17 January 2011, 13:11:51: Quote from: panda-R;279936
where can i purchase the aeron for cheap?

I was actually going to suggest that you get the Bearon chair, but you're not really a bear, so that's not going to work.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: mike on Mon, 17 January 2011, 13:24:36: Quote from: ripster;279903
Overhyped Aerons.

Beat this for adjustability. The seat edge forward/back is especially nice. Whaddya know, they do make armless Steelcase Leaps.

I dare say they are overhyped; they're also good - $work bought my Aeron through a specialist supplier who sell products for those with various ergonomic problems (in my case a bad back). They wouldn't keep selling them if they weren't good.

Looking at those adjustments, they're exactly what you need if you have a one size fits all chair. Which the Aeron isn't - those who buy an office full of size B Aerons are doing the wrong thing. And if you buy an Aeron with all the extras you get most of the adjustments; the missing ones are seat depth and edge.

Personally I like the mesh of the Aeron - the air circulation keeps the nether regions nice and cool. Others might find prefer a bit more warmth.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: typo on Tue, 18 January 2011, 00:02:21: you don't need the seat depth if you get the right size chair. maybe the reviewer meant to say it does not tilt much. my car seat can lay flat. nothing like that.

people could check out the hon resolution. their warranty is second to none if it would even break. it does not look like much but many hospitals use them. so i think that says something. my hon desk is good. the decked out resolution lists for over a grand but street prices are like $450. a less expensive option. i can't vouch for it though personally because i have not tried it.

the aeron is great but i did not expect it to ever loosen up for the price. you can lift my arms up and down a few mm for instance. maybe i am too picky. still, the so called best should be just that then.
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 18 January 2011, 00:30:27: Quote from: Voixdelion;279752

Ah yes - Its called a "Webble" Active Foot Rest. Intriguing notion, and probably would suit my tendency to fidget around the feet when sitting. Although I also like the idea of the rocker type rest from Humanscale also (http://www.humanscale.com/products/category_detail.cfm?category=foot_rests). But I think the webble would be more flexible in the long run.

damn 143 is the best price from a known retailer (provantage) for a wobbly skateboard?
idk can we like mod el cheapo skateboard instead?
Title: darn aeron chair
Post by: typo on Tue, 18 January 2011, 01:10:24: don't feel bad. you can spend $1,500 on a nice skate board. like a vintage vision deck,carbon trucks and ceramic bearings. now, that would be cool to use for a footrest. since i'd break my neck using it as a skate board at this point in my life. i skated when vision decks were $90!