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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Wed, 19 January 2011, 13:46:38
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Not sure if i've asked this, but does anyone else who not speak German, but uses a German layout keyboard find it tolerable ?
The reason i ask is that seems there lots of vintage keyboards and they are all in the German layout.
So before i plump down some moolahs on one, i would like to know other peoples experiences with it.
The French Azerty to me is plain evil, that i already know. But what about the German layout ?
Also is it possible to replace the keycaps with English ones, and convert it to US ansi ? or is that not possible ?
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Your command of the English language is such that I, personally, don't think any keyboard layout will affect you.
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Moogle + moolah = "mooglah"
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Swapping keycaps gets you most of the way there. Still ISO enter and small left shift... depends how you find those. I like them.
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Personally I can hotswap between both of them. I use ANSI US 80% of the time, but I have no issues with the European Enter and small shift either. Only thing I really miss is my wide | \ key.
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Oh, also I should mention that I have long forgotten how to actually type on the German layout. So when I say hotswap, I mean I use a German keyboard and its set to US QWERTY anyway, since I touch type. The physical layout should be no problem to adjust to.
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@soarer
So basically everything is us ansi, but enter remains ISO L shaped, and small left shift ?
Yeah i could live with that :}
@sixty
The thing is i just stick to qwerty since i'm very used to it. I wouldn't enjoy switching between us and german layout :/
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The brackets are so misleading... on 8,9 vs 9,0.
Otherwise I can ignore the markings, but that one always makes me pause!
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Not sure if i've asked this, but does anyone else who not speak German, but uses a German layout keyboard find it tolerable ?
The reason i ask is that seems there lots of vintage keyboards and they are all in the German layout.
So before i plump down some moolahs on one, i would like to know other peoples experiences with it.
The French Azerty to me is plain evil, that i already know. But what about the German layout ?
I typed a lot on German-layout keyboards with the system set up to US-layout. It is a bit tricky with those charakter at the number-row, if you look at it and that J-shape enter in the place of \|.
You can swapp all the keys with 6bit's set, and except for enter you get quite a good US-ANSI-layout.
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When I bought a cherry keyboard with german layout a long long time ago, I remember that the Z and Y keys were swapped.
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When I bought a cherry keyboard with german layout a long long time ago, I remember that the Z and Y keys were swapped.
That's why it's called QWERTZ.
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My watch is qwertz-driven.
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Jackdaws love my big sphinx of qwertz.
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I see your qwertz is bigger than mine.
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Ok seems it's doable using Soarer's method. Small left shift and big shaped L but to me that hardly seems a problem at all.
If you want to convert, there is 7bit's method but seems to be a lot of modding involved :/
Requirement: sixty's us ansi doubleshot set
Anyway sadly the problem is the pricing :/ Sadly it isn't economically viable for me at this point. Can be done but it's out of my budget.
And just the other day i saw a G80-1000 in US ansi floating around, but it got sold :{
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Noticed another thing.
(http://keyboardporn.com/files/gimgs/th-44_3.jpg)
(http://keyboardporn.com/files/gimgs/th-44_4.jpg)
You see where the left shift is, there is this >< key. So that will be a dead key ?
So when i set win7 to use US ANSI, what does that <> key there do exactly ?
*update
bottom left and the keys near to the enter is slightly ****ed :/ so i gave up on the idea.
Could probably work 7bit's way but i'm not gonna do hardcore modding :{
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So when i set win7 to use US ANSI, what does that <> key there do exactly ?
Probably pipe/backslash, but not sure and too lazy to try. Could well be <>.