geekhack

geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 09:28:26

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 09:28:26

Hello,
first i whant tell you, i cant speak good english, so sorry. :D

I have a big problem:
I buyed a german Raptor K1 keyboard and i removed the spacebar.
After i whant put the spacebar back, the spacebar is not like the first day.

Now the spacebar is louder, not smooth, rickety and feels like a rubberdome.

How to put the spacebar correctly in the keyboard?
What i have to do with the metal stabilizer or what ever? It just rest on the ground.

I heard this is the best forum for keyboards, so i hope anyone can help me. Maybe with picture or a video? :D

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: bugfix on Sun, 23 January 2011, 09:35:01

I'll post this in German for comprehensibility:

Normalerweise müssten unter der Leertaste zwei Ösen sein, in etwa wie auf diesem Bild:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5149365391_c0e06831b7_z.jpg)

In die Ösen musst die die Enden der kleinen Metallstange (Stabilizer) einführen.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 23 January 2011, 09:51:55

Welcome to GeekHack. Hope you can get it back on there correctly.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 10:00:07

Leider nein, ein Review wie man genau solche Dinger einbaut habe ich hier schon gefunden, aber bei mir sind die leider anders.
Hier sind mal 4 Bilder:

(no i dont get it back, i found a review how to fix the spacebar from an other keyboard, but the spacebar on the Raptor K1 is different, here i uploaded 4 pictures)

1:  (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_73799732011-01-23_16.47.58.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=73799732011-01-23_16.47.58.jpg) 2:  (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_88487302011-01-23_16.48.33.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=88487302011-01-23_16.48.33.jpg) 3:  (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_23517762011-01-23_16.49.30.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=23517762011-01-23_16.49.30.jpg) 4:  (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_72957372011-01-23_17.05.19.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=72957372011-01-23_17.05.19.jpg)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 11:19:27

I dont have white grease and if i had, where i have to put it?
I dont know how to install the spacebar, so i dont know where i should put the grease too. :(

Its my first time i see a mechanical keyboard spacebar from the other side.
A tutorial would be helpfully.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 11:59:56

Okay, but i found that review allready.
But the problem is, my spacebar and my metal stabilizer is not the same!
The metal-stabilizer just rest on the ground and i dont have this things under the keyboard like in your picture (watch my 4 pictures).
I dont know what i have to do with the metal-stabilizer thing, its different. :(

Damn, why i cant speak better english! :,(

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: bpiphany on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:06:22

You should just have to push the space bar back onto the plastic crosses. Make sure to push firmly over all the crosses to push them in properly.

Do the stabilizer crosses travel up and down smoothly?

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:09:00

Raptor Roger can help you with your spacebar!
(http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4935617/Raptor-Roger-Says-Rawr.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Raptor-Roger)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:11:29

Are you kidding me MW?

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:16:14

Quote from: TheK1;283300

Leider nein, ein Review wie man genau solche Dinger einbaut habe ich hier schon gefunden, aber bei mir sind die leider anders.
Hier sind mal 4 Bilder:

(no i dont get it back, i found a review how to fix the spacebar from an other keyboard, but the spacebar on the Raptor K1 is different, here i uploaded 4 pictures)

1:  

Show Image

(http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_73799732011-01-23_16.47.58.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=73799732011-01-23_16.47.58.jpg)

2:  

Show Image

(http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_88487302011-01-23_16.48.33.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=88487302011-01-23_16.48.33.jpg)

3:  

Show Image

(http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_23517762011-01-23_16.49.30.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=23517762011-01-23_16.49.30.jpg)

4:  

Show Image

(http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_72957372011-01-23_17.05.19.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=72957372011-01-23_17.05.19.jpg)

The stabilizer looks OK.

Just push the spacebar down. It needs some force to get it into the stabilizer stems (left and right to the center, where the switch is).

On most other keyboards, the stabilizer is hooked into the key, which is not the case with Cherry boards.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: Soarer on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:17:11

Obviously, you do NOT need grease to get it back to how it was first of all!

Check:
- stabilizer mounts secured to the pcb at both ends
- stabilizer bar is clicked into the mounts at both ends

They have a habit of popping out when you remove the spacebar, and it can be tricky to get everything back in place. But it looks OK in the pictures.

So maybe PrinsValium has it... they do take a fair bit of force to get properly seated again.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:29:23

Quote from: Soarer;283377

Obviously, you do NOT need grease to get it back to how it was first of all!

Check:
- stabilizer mounts secured to the pcb at both ends
- stabilizer bar is clicked into the mounts at both ends

They have a habit of popping out when you remove the spacebar, and it can be tricky to get everything back in place. But it looks OK in the pictures.

So maybe PrinsValium has it... they do take a fair bit of force to get properly seated again.

^^^ follow these instructions^^^

Here is how the stabilizer should look when properly snapped in:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13657&stc=1&d=1290718257)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 12:50:39

Ahahaha, now i got it. I postet my problem in a german forum too and there a member postet me a checklist that helps a lot and i fixed the spacebar.
And now i open geekhack, after i fixed it and i read and see what the problem was, thanks to Soarer and 7bit, thats it! :)

In picture 1 you see how it was before and in picture 2 it is fixed. xD
Omg, so simple if you know that. ^^
Next time i know where i have to watch and i dont will be blind anymore! ^^

Picture 1: (before)
 (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_99574962011-01-23_19.22.42.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=99574962011-01-23_19.22.42.jpg)

Picture 2: (after it fixed)
 (http://s1.bild.me/bilder/311010/thumb_48290692011-01-23_19.23.03.jpg) (http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=48290692011-01-23_19.23.03.jpg)

(and sorry my bad picture-quality of my phone :D)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 13:16:05

Yeah, no problem i have to thank you guys, its realy a very good forum for keyboards. ^^

@ripster
Maybe 7bit can make some good quality picture for this fix / swapping, because it looks like he has the same keyboard too? ^^
Cause i dont think my bad phone-quality is good for a guide. :D

@7bit:
Ich hoffe du kannst ein paar qualitative Bilder davon machen, leider habe ich noch keine richtige Kamera sondern nur mein Handy. :D
(my try of translation: I hope you can make some quality pictures from that, i dont have a good camera, just my phone. :D) xD

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: Soarer on Sun, 23 January 2011, 13:18:02

Yes, it's simple, but it's not obvious!

Anyway, fixed, so... :-)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 13:26:29

Can you post the link form the Cherry MX swapping guide please?
I only found -> that <- (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12649#Pulling+Keys+With+Stabilizers+-+Korean+Kung+Fu+Style) and i dont see the fix of my/the raptor k1 there.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: TheK1 on Sun, 23 January 2011, 13:36:03

Ah okay, thanks for the link! :)
I have to orient myself in this forum first. ^^

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 23 January 2011, 17:18:51

Ripster I found a Video that maybe you should add to the Wiki if you're OK with it just because it shows how to remove and how to reinstall too in the same video .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWYYa6kfhE&feature=player_embedded

Not a valid youtube URL
It shows how to remove the Leopold Shift which I think it's actually the same mount as in the Spacebar.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: RiGS on Sun, 23 January 2011, 17:56:38

I think I might have the same problem but unfortunately the stabilizer is mounted under the metal plate.

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: bpiphany on Mon, 24 January 2011, 12:07:14

Quote from: RiGS;283561

I think I might have the same problem but unfortunately the stabilizer is mounted under the metal plate.

If it is the space bar I guess you should be able to reach it from the bottom side between the plate and the pcb. Then at least you shouldn't need to desolder anything if you take the board apart. Is there no slot in the mounting plate to insert the stabilizer bar? Perhaps you could reach it through there. This is how cherry think it should be done.
(http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_spacebar_1x3.gif)

Title: put spacebar back from Raptor K1
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 24 January 2011, 15:46:03

Quote from: PrinsValium;283949

If it is the space bar I guess you should be able to reach it from the bottom side between the plate and the pcb. Then at least you shouldn't need to desolder anything if you take the board apart. Is there no slot in the mounting plate to insert the stabilizer bar? Perhaps you could reach it through there.

Thanks for the tip it should really help.
(http://blog.gaingame.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/SteelSeries-6GV2-Gaming-Keyboard-Review-19.jpg)
Yes, there is a slot in the mounting plate, but only for the spacebar.