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Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Vorlik on Fri, 28 January 2011, 15:01:16

I know this has been mentioned here before but i'd like a more updated response :P

I'm canadian so I've narrowed it down to either:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040&Tpk=rosewill%20rk-9000

or

http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=455853

It would be my first mech keyboard. Do you guys believe the extra $30 CAD is justified? I mean, aside from bring a finger magnet/2key, is there anything else the 9000 has over the widow? I'd gladly pay $30 dollars less for that. I'm just worried the build quality isn't up to snuff since I believe the 9000 is of filco production.

It's mainly for SC2/typing.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: colorcutclarity on Fri, 28 January 2011, 15:03:37

Rk-9000.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Vorlik on Fri, 28 January 2011, 15:10:18

Quote from: colorcutclarity;286491

Rk-9000.

with price in mind too?

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Arcanius on Fri, 28 January 2011, 15:15:08

I'd say go for the Rosewill.
I tried out a friend's Blackwidow for a weekend and was totally unsatisfied with it. If you're going to do something, do it right. The BW feels and looks cheap to me. The keys are ugly, imo, and I manage to pull them off the keyboard using my fingers. Build quality is nowhere near my Model M, it's almost as bad as a rubber dome.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: colorcutclarity on Fri, 28 January 2011, 15:38:37

Quote from: Vorlik;286493

with price in mind too?

Yes, not only do you get a better looking board but you also get NKRO which is always a plus.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: manfaux on Fri, 28 January 2011, 16:07:17

RK 9000 hands down. With price in mind.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: godofdeath on Fri, 28 January 2011, 16:41:17

rk-9000 it has nkro

seriously if you want leds get the bw
other than that i wouldnt get it at all

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 28 January 2011, 16:59:32

Plus the rosewill has a gold usb connector which I believe has been proven to attract women and get you more frags.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: chimborazo on Fri, 28 January 2011, 17:02:57

i cant speak for everyone else here nor i can compare them both. i never got the chance to get the bw

the rosewill is imo a better built board. if i remember correctly, the controller is from filco and the board itself is manufactured by costar - which is the same company behind the filco and the das

now, with that being said i only can give you my two cents w/ the rosewill

i wouldnt doubt if the quality overall is better than the bw - but i found the so called lasered etched keycaps would indeed fade overtime and about this i am one hundred percent sure. secondly, the actuation force of the switches is not up to par. dont get me wrong, overall it may be a better board for you if you want to - say - resell it down the road. i am sure the value wont depreciate as much as the bw. also, i dont let the hype of marketing hyperbole get to me as it is currently the case w/ many companies out there but if there is one thing i am sure of is that the switches on the rosewill rk9000 were not - rephrasing other companies tactics -> hand picked.
using ripsters ripometer i got 55 g on some of them while others would only activate at 60 g. and that much i assure you, for i spend almost an hour trying to get it right and time after time i was just dissapointed with what i got.
now, if these bw boards have similar issues then forget about it. you are better off w/ the rk9000.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Azuremen on Fri, 28 January 2011, 18:00:44

Having used both a bit, I honeslty think I'd go with the Black Widow at this point. The keycaps are a bit heavier so the sound is a bit lower in frequency, and the few macro keys are quite nice for binds for things like Photoshop.

The legends on both will get dirty pretty quickly. As for the key roll over, I never experienced any issues with the BW while playing SC2, or doing anything else for that matter. Someone on the forum has tested almost every popular gaming configuration (WASD, ESDF, etc) and found the only issue was hitting 2 arrow keys and something else at the same time, I believe.

Both are good boards, the RK-9000 has a nice simpler aesthetic while the BW is indeed a fingerprint magnet, and obviously a "gamers" board.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: NAVIWORLDINC on Fri, 28 January 2011, 18:03:31

RK-9000 all the way.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: LaneWeaver on Fri, 28 January 2011, 18:11:46

Defending the BW:

Build quality isn't bad; in fact I would say it's pretty good. You can look at the reviews that some of the other GH'ers posted for the BW (like this one (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13224)), and even they said it's not poorly built. It's by far the best built keyboard I've ever owned, but this is my first mechanical. The body does not flex or creak as bad as my others (namely the MS Natural 4000, the "best" rubber-dome I've had). And you still get the same Cherry Blue switches as you do in the Rosewill - quality in the key switches, where it counts the most. Additionally, both keyboards come with a braided cable and gold-plated connector.

Also, I haven't been able to pull any of the keys off my BW with my bare hands. How that's even possible, with the smoothness of the keycaps' sides, I don't know. Hyperbole, perhaps? Maybe I have a weak grip compared to others. I had to use some tools to pluck the key caps off.

Finally, the keyboard was much cheaper than the Rosewill was. It also has media keys and macro keys, if you're looking for that.

And now the drawbacks of the BlackWidow:

The switch feel is different from row to row. So, the QWERTY row of keys doesn't feel the same as the ASDF, which feels different from the ZXCV row of keys. In fact, number row and numpad also feel different. I don't know why that is, and I don't know if this is apparent in other keyboards such as the RK-9K, but this is something I have to mention. The difference in feel is subtle though, but if you're picky like most of the people are on GH, you will probably notice it.

Additionally, my left shift key was mushy, so I swapped the stabilizer with one from the + key on the numpad. Feels like the other keys now. Take that however you will.

And of course, the stuff already mentioned: lack of NKRO and the glossy finish. FWIW, the glossy finish, unless you're a stickler for cleanliness, isn't a problem for me - I've wiped it down only once so far. Lack of NKRO hasn't reared it's ugly head too often for me.

Last points:

Do I have any doubts about its durability? No. This keyboard will probably last me a very long time, unless I did something deliberate to it.

Would I buy the Razer again? Yes, mushy shift key and all. I can't justify paying $30 extra for NKRO and lack of media keys. It's a solid board.

Do I enjoy typing on this keyboard? You bet.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: mangloid on Fri, 28 January 2011, 19:00:33

I have been typing on my Razer black widow for a few hours and so far it feels really solid.  As the previous user mentioned a difference in feel of the rows - I do not have that I haven't found a mushy key yet either. I also could not pull off any keys with my hands, But I did pry one off just to very the cherry mx blue, and see how the leds were integrated into the board.

One thing I will say, is the keycaps are in place, and fairly well compared to other boards. When I went to purchase this today I saw the SIIG Mechanical, I shook the board and could hear the keys rattling. That would drive me nuts to just be resting my fingers and have the keys be making all kinds of noise. Especially when I drink too much caffeine and my hands won't stay still.

also, this forum is awesome. I used a lot of the information from it today when I made my purchase earlier.

My main reason I bought the blackwidow is I am a big impulse buyer. I do not like shopping online or waiting.  I  wanted something with MX Blue, and to find it  locally in stock. It really came down to this only keyboard. I also sit on my computer in the dark a lot, so the backlit keys will come in handy.

It will be put to the test when I fire up VI later. This keyboard will probably travel with me to work now, because I HATE the scissor keys on laptops. It really slowed me down a lot in VI.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Vorlik on Fri, 28 January 2011, 19:11:05

Thanks for your inputs guys, more are welcome!

I was leaning towards the rosewill before I made this thread, now it's the opposite. Like one user said, the switches are identical. Does it matter that the controller was made by filco/costar, if it feels the same? I don't really need backlighting, macro keys, or media keys, but they certainly don't hurt, especially for $30 less. I wish there would be a poster who owns/tried both keyboards, to give a direct comparison >.<

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 28 January 2011, 19:22:11

Quote from: ripster;286645

The controller manufacturer generally makes little difference unless you are a guy named Welly.

You keep mentioning this person...who is that??

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 28 January 2011, 19:24:14

I know nothing about the Blackwidow but I sure like my Rosewill RK-9000!

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: manfaux on Fri, 28 January 2011, 19:24:36

Quote from: Vorlik;286643

Thanks for your inputs guys, more are welcome!

I was leaning towards the rosewill before I made this thread, now it's the opposite. Like one user said, the switches are identical. Does it matter that the controller was made by filco/costar, if it feels the same? I don't really need backlighting, macro keys, or media keys, but they certainly don't hurt, especially for $30 less. I wish there would be a poster who owns/tried both keyboards, to give a direct comparison >.<

for $30 you are looking at the basic BW, which doesn't have backlighting.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: mangloid on Fri, 28 January 2011, 20:00:40

Quote from: manfaux;286653

for $30 you are looking at the basic BW, which doesn't have backlighting.

Oops, I didn't look at the links, I bought the backlit ultimate edition... its 130.


Between those 2 keyboards you linked, If i had the choice, I would pick a rosewill. Even though I love my razer so far, it would come down to the fact that rosewill has been in the business of mechanical keyboards longer.

Watch some videos, compare the sound, and look for more info on the web. Or just roll the dice, or flip a coin.

I looked around for about 6 hours before I made the blackwidow purchase today. ( I wanted to buy it local, my choices were a limited. )
If I had found a bigger name of mechanical keyboard locally, with the switches I wanted, I probably would have gotten it.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: manfaux on Fri, 28 January 2011, 21:42:35

Quote from: mangloid;286676

Oops, I didn't look at the links, I bought the backlit ultimate edition... its 130.


Between those 2 keyboards you linked, If i had the choice, I would pick a rosewill. Even though I love my razer so far, it would come down to the fact that rosewill has been in the business of mechanical keyboards longer.

Watch some videos, compare the sound, and look for more info on the web. Or just roll the dice, or flip a coin.

I looked around for about 6 hours before I made the blackwidow purchase today. ( I wanted to buy it local, my choices were a limited. )
If I had found a bigger name of mechanical keyboard locally, with the switches I wanted, I probably would have gotten it.

still a great buy, if you don't mind a glossy surface(which is a dealbreaker for a lot of users including myself) .

For the RK9000, you are pretty much getting a Filco with NKRO, with worse keycaps, which you will probably looking to replace in the future anyway.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: chimborazo on Fri, 28 January 2011, 22:51:45

Quote from: manfaux;286717

For the RK9000, you are pretty much getting a Filco with NKRO, with worse keycaps, which you will probably looking to replace in the future anyway.

no, it's not.

even though “if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Vorlik on Sat, 29 January 2011, 01:54:28

Quote from: manfaux;286717

still a great buy, if you don't mind a glossy surface(which is a dealbreaker for a lot of users including myself) .

For the RK9000, you are pretty much getting a Filco with NKRO, with worse keycaps, which you will probably looking to replace in the future anyway.

Why are the keycaps "worse"? Do you have any proof on this?

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: arc2 on Sat, 29 January 2011, 08:21:10

If you game it's a no brainer, Lack of NKRO kills the BW.

RK9000 every time.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Arcanius on Sat, 29 January 2011, 10:28:03

Quote from: Vorlik;286788

Why are the keycaps "worse"? Do you have any proof on this?

Well the keycaps on Filcos tend to wear really quickly, becoming shiny, although I don't see the BW as having "better" keycaps. You can feel the lettering, and I imagine the laser infill that the keys seem to have is going to wear pretty easily. Check the wiki for more on that. A good article is "Das S Lasered Keys Versus Filco Pad Printed - FIGHT!"

Rosewill for sure, simply because the build quality is superior, and NKRO is really nice to have. When my friend got his BW he was really disappointed when I explained that it has stupid gimmicks but none of the things a "gaming" keyboard should really have.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Eric5676 on Sat, 29 January 2011, 12:16:07

A choice I came down to myself and I, too, ultimately picked the Rosewill and haven't looked back. Great price on a hell of a keyboard IMO.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: hailey on Sat, 29 January 2011, 13:22:39

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 14:14:06

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15173)

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 14:19:12

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15174)

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 14:46:56

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15176)

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 14:52:01

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15177)

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 15:00:19

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15178)

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 15:42:46

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.  Couldn't you have painted it?

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15182)

You know.  I thought the logo would bother me, after reading some of the trash talk about it.  While I wouldn't say I like it, it doesn't really nag me like I feared.  Just a great keyboard with a logo that could be better.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 29 January 2011, 16:43:45

Quote from: hailey;286943

The keycaps on my RK9000 look the same as the day I bought it 4-5 months ago. Can't be overstated how ugly the logo is though. I took mine off with a knife, and while it looks about as bad as you can expect after going under the knife it's still better than having the logo there in my opinion.

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.

(http://mimg.ugo.com/200808/15811/pulp-fiction-medieval.jpg)

Couldn't you have painted it, or covered it?

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15183)

You know.  I thought the logo would bother me, after reading some of the trash talk about it.  While I wouldn't say I like it, it doesn't really nag me like I feared.  Just a great keyboard with a logo that could be better.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: hailey on Sat, 29 January 2011, 18:33:14

Quote from: TexasFlood;287013

Wow, went all OCD medieval on the logo.

Show Image

(http://mimg.ugo.com/200808/15811/pulp-fiction-medieval.jpg)

Couldn't you have painted it, or covered it?

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15183)

You know.  I thought the logo would bother me, after reading some of the trash talk about it.  While I wouldn't say I like it, it doesn't really nag me like I feared.  Just a great keyboard with a logo that could be better.

Well my rationale is that now it looks really good in low-light situations whereas before that bright white logo would haunt me even on the darkest of nights

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: xira on Sun, 30 January 2011, 05:09:36

am i insane for thinking it's not as blue waffle/goatse hideous as you guys make it out to be?

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: chimborazo on Sun, 30 January 2011, 19:42:03

the only setback i have encountered w/ the rosewill is the inconsistency w/ the switches. to get 55 g and 60 g - and to top it off 60 g over by the pinky fingers when it was supposed to be in the lower 50's is simply beyond me. isn't that one of the selling points w/ the topre switches? to distribute the force accordingly?

for all i care i may have the most popular budget value cherry blue board there is except it doesn't feel right.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Lethal Squirrel on Sun, 30 January 2011, 19:52:29

I have a blackwidow, i was kinda disappointed in it. I would rather have a RK-9000 for sure.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Lethal Squirrel on Sun, 30 January 2011, 19:56:38

Quote from: Arcanius;286884

and I imagine the laser infill that the keys seem to have is going to wear pretty easily.

Actually, I took some sandpaper to one of the keys on my blackwidow because i was trying to make the keys blank. I could not get the lettering off. I sanded the hell out of the esc key and nothin'

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Sun, 30 January 2011, 21:14:01

Quote from: chimborazo;287507

the only setback i have encountered w/ the rosewill is the inconsistency w/ the switches. to get 55 g and 60 g - and to top it off 60 g over by the pinky fingers when it was supposed to be in the lower 50's is simply beyond me. isn't that one of the selling points w/ the topre switches? to distribute the force accordingly?

for all i care i may have the most popular budget value cherry blue board there is except it doesn't feel right.

If inconsistency of switches is your concern to not getting rosewill, then RAZER BLACKWIDOW ULTIMATE(Expert not sure) should be avoided at all cost.

I tried the 4 arrow keys on BWU in a retail shop and i found out that all 5 keyboards displayed is having different feeling, actuating force(some lighter and some heavier even presssed with same finger) and even sound even for the same row keys, not to mention another 104 keys which is come be tested. Some BWU user also claimed that some of their keys having different feeling(no click sound at all).

I thought one of the main reason for getting a mechanical keyboard is to get a consistent feeling when typing? Razer BWU really doesn't justify it...

If you are a RAZER FAN BOI, you probably wont notice it. If you aren't, better choose other option.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Muhi on Sun, 30 January 2011, 21:30:45

A few weeks back the BW $65 dollars. Then I would have said it would have been worth it to get the BW over the Rosewill. Especially if you don't need NKRO.

The placement of the F1-F12 keys would bother me though.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Sun, 30 January 2011, 21:35:14

Quote from: ripster;287539

Welcome to Geekhack.

Poking your finger in a box hole was an inhumane way to test consistency.

LOL, i dont have nickel to help me determine it quantitatively....

But definitely, something that can even be differentiate with same finger will differ by lots.

Quote from: Muhi;287545

A few weeks back the BW $65 dollars. Then I would have said it would have been worth it to get the BW over the Rosewill. Especially if you don't need NKRO.

The placement of the F1-F12 keys would bother me though.

Somehow, the F keys different will not concern me too much, LOL. It is just shifted 1/4 keysize more to the right compared to my Logitech KB i am using now...

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: JohnehJH on Sun, 30 January 2011, 21:46:12

Quote from: xira;287186

am i insane for thinking it's not as blue waffle/goatse hideous as you guys make it out to be?

It's hideous from a design point of view. The flourish on the R doesn't look naturally hand-drawn, it looks manipulated. The designer who made it just found some typeface, and added this ugly end to the existing R. The color version is even worse, with the cheesiest Photoshop bevel and emboss layer style added to it.

But at the same time, the BW looks like they could be selling it at Hot-Topic. No offense to Hot-Topic, but I don't want a keyboard that makes a statement. I know if I'm going to be using a keyboard for gaming, I don't need a glowing logo to tell everyone else.

BUT THEN AGAIN, how much does appearance really even matter? If I have to judge the quality of a product on the spot, I'll go by what it looks like. I don't think that's the case here, because there's just so much information about the actual quality of each keyboard.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: funnyperson1 on Sun, 30 January 2011, 23:08:43

The build quality of the Razer is actually pretty good in my opinion.  The chassis feels solid and so do the keycaps.  I enjoy typing on it, but the 2KRO is probably a poor choice for SC2.

That said I definitely wouldn't buy it for full retail.  At least once a month Newegg has 15% off on the BW with free shipping.  Sometimes there is an additional coupon code.  For $50-60 I think the BW is a very good deal.

I haven't tried the Rosewill, but I much prefer the BlackWidow to the ABS M1 a friend had, and its not quite in the same league as my Model M.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: chimborazo on Sun, 30 January 2011, 23:36:31

Quote from: Human;287551

LOL, i dont have nickel to help me determine it quantitatively....

But definitely, something that can even be differentiate with same finger will differ by lots.

lol you dont need quantitative theory but only common sense to know you are poking fingers on a razer bw which is on display to be poked at a retail store (you said it yourself) as opposed to a supposedly and apparent brand new rosewill

if you hang around long enough you will see i have no agenda with the bw - other than i find it aesthetically pleasing - to each his own and i dont doubt - as i have said since the beginning, that the rosewill construction is top notch- albeit the perturbing thought every now and then that the materials used for the rosewill were scrap leftovers from the same people who put the filco together.

as a matter of fact at this point, since you experienced inconsistency with the switches on the bw and i have a share of frustration w/ the rosewill i encourage the thread starter Vorlik to buy neither the rw nor bw and to save his money for a leopold archiss from elitekeyboards.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: manfaux on Sun, 30 January 2011, 23:42:30

Quote from: funnyperson1;287591

The build quality of the Razer is actually pretty good in my opinion.  The chassis feels solid and so do the keycaps.  I enjoy typing on it, but the 2KRO is probably a poor choice for SC2.

That said I definitely wouldn't buy it for full retail.  At least once a month Newegg has 15% off on the BW with free shipping.  Sometimes there is an additional coupon code.  For $50-60 I think the BW is a very good deal.

I haven't tried the Rosewill, but I much prefer the BlackWidow to the ABS M1 a friend had, and its not quite in the same league as my Model M.

2kro is more than sufficient for sc2, I would be more worried about the blue switches than the 2kro.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Muhi on Mon, 31 January 2011, 09:15:12

Quote from: manfaux;287607

2kro is more than sufficient for sc2, I would be more worried about the blue switches than the 2kro.

Shift/control + one key would be the maximum you would press simultaneously.

And even then, hysteresis is kinda a non issue. One of the Europros uses a BlackWidow due to his sponsorship by Razer and does fine. If Patches O'Houlihan was a master Starcraft player he'd say, "If you can dodge a wrench, you can play SC2 on Cherry Blues."

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: nigritude on Mon, 31 January 2011, 10:48:54

LOL how do you have the lego for just about every occasion...

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: Eric5676 on Mon, 31 January 2011, 10:58:05

Haven't had inconsistency issues on the Rosewill, at least thus far.

The logo doesn't bother me, either.

Title: Rosewill RK-9000 vs Blackwidow
Post by: chimborazo on Mon, 31 January 2011, 13:32:12

lol oh no. didnt he go through a painful catharsis at the end of the movie?

(http://www.morethings.com/fan/quentin_tarantino/pulp_fiction/pulp_fiction3360.jpg)

it's good to have fond memories

(http://www.metapedia.com/wiki/images/PulpFiction.jpg)