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geekhack Community => Input Devices => Topic started by: speakeasy on Sun, 30 January 2011, 01:37:46
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I'm looking for a mouse that:
-ambidextrous shaped
-relatively small size (preferably about 100mm but not more than 115mm)
-good for fingertip grip (I suppose this point may be redundant given the previous two)
-matte, not slippery finish (preferably black)
-no cursor prediction
-preferably wired
-at least 800dpi, preferably 1600dpi or higher with the ability to adjust (doesn't have to be on the fly)
-extra programmable buttons would be a plus, but not necessary
Does such a mouse exist? I've been using this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826178003) guy for I think 6 years now, and while he's still going strong despite obvious signs of wear, most of the damage is cosmetic. Pretty impressive for such a cheap mouse, and I'm really happy with it but as I've just upgraded my keyboard I'm looking to upgrade the rest of my desktop (already have my potential next monitor narrowed down to about 2 or 3, which is why I think I may need a higher dpi mouse as I'm currently only using 1280x1024 and want a higher res monitor).
For what it's worth, the only game I play nowadays with any regularity is Starcraft 2.
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by cm you mean mm.
and <115mm is tiny, there are only a couple of decent wired mice that I can think of which are close to that size: the steelseries Kinzu, razer abyssus/salmosa
the salmosa pro-gaming edition is at 95mm long but it's not readily available.
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lol whoops sorry, you're right, i meant mm, sleepy but watching tennis
Actually, the Abyssus is the front runner in my hunt right now, but the side profile has me a bit worried that my thumb will get pinched when I left click.
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lol whoops sorry, you're right, i meant mm, sleepy but watching tennis
Actually, the Abyssus is the front runner in my hunt right now, but the side profile has me a bit worried that my thumb will get pinched when I left click.
that's not a problem whatsoever
i think abyssus is the best ambidextrous mouse you can get, even when it could be improved a bit
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The Kinzu seems to fit those requirements. Not sure about the lift-off distance, though.
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Liftoff is negligible; I use low sense (valve: 3.7 sens on 800 dpi) and I have no issues.
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Kinzu has acceleration.
Try the Abyssus
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I'm not sure if this fits all your requirements but I've been using it for months and I love it. Mionix Naos 5000 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826580002&cm_re=mionix-_-26-580-002-_-Product)
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I'm gonna have to agree with the Abyssus. It's a pretty good mouse and one of razer's cheapest. I got mine for only $30, but I gave it to a friend as a gift. I like my deathadder a little bit more. I'm more of a palm grip kinda guy.
The side of the mouse does kind of pinch your thumb, if your thumb is too high up. But it only takes a day or two to get used to it and it will never happen again. I say you should try it out. if you don't like it you should be able to sell it fairly quick here. or ebay at least.
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Why is it a necessity to be corded, if a cordless mouse tracks equally or better, would cordless not be a bonus ?
I have had pretty much used all those Kappow rodents but in the end I prefer the Logitech M310. It fits your criteria bar one, no cord.
They also comes in different colours etcetera, and Logitech SetPoint 6.2 is more than good.
Nice clean lines, lovely waistline curves, reminds me of the old Coco Cola bottles.
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The thing is, wireless mice DON'T track better. and also, it may be subtle, and may not be noticeable to some, but there is latency. I used to use a wireless mouse and thought the same thing as you. I then got my first "gaming" mouse, and thought, okay, whats the difference. A few months of using that then going back to my wireless, the difference was HUGE. I found it almost imposable to do any kind of gaming. It may sound like I'm just picky, but others will agree, wireless mice just aren't that great, and more of a " look ma', no cord!" kind of thing.
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The thing is, wireless mice DON'T track better. and also, it may be subtle, and may not be noticeable to some, but there is latency. I used to use a wireless mouse and thought the same thing as you. I then got my first "gaming" mouse, and thought, okay, whats the difference. A few months of using that then going back to my wireless, the difference was HUGE. I found it almost imposable to do any kind of gaming. It may sound like I'm just picky, but others will agree, wireless mice just aren't that great, and more of a " look ma', no cord!" kind of thing.
I own/have owned many wireless mice and I could live with the latency no problem. In fact, most modern RF wireless mice have very little latency, it's barely noticeable on a day-to-day basis unless you are heavy FPS gamer. I even play Starcraft with them and do just fine.
The primary let down of the wireless mice, imho, is the weight. I prefer my my mouse to be as lightweight as possible, you really don't want to move a hefty mouse all day long.
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Abyssus arrived yesterday.
It's slightly longer than my old mouse, so I was a bit worried. It felt very strange in my hand, and I really thought that I wouldn't like the mouse, but after playing SOTIS for a couple of hours, I got used to it. I guess I just needed a little time to figure out where exactly to put my fingers on the new shape. Scroll wheel is a bit stiffer than I am used to. I'm not a big fan of the LED since my fingertip grip means my hand doesn't cover the back of the mose, and the corner of the glowing razer logo is still visible in the bottom corner of my vision, but then again, so is the blue LED on my keyboard and I've learned to live with that.
It isn't as great as I could have hoped, but 1600dpi feels really nice (3200 is too much for me on 1280x1024) so I think it was money well spent.
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Abyssus arrived yesterday.
It's slightly longer than my old mouse, so I was a bit worried. It felt very strange in my hand, and I really thought that I wouldn't like the mouse, but after playing SOTIS for a couple of hours, I got used to it. I guess I just needed a little time to figure out where exactly to put my fingers on the new shape. Scroll wheel is a bit stiffer than I am used to. I'm not a big fan of the LED since my fingertip grip means my hand doesn't cover the back of the mose, and the corner of the glowing razer logo is still visible in the bottom corner of my vision, but then again, so is the blue LED on my keyboard and I've learned to live with that.
It isn't as great as I could have hoped, but 1600dpi feels really nice (3200 is too much for me on 1280x1024) so I think it was money well spent.
Nice purchase! I think once you get accustomed to the feel of the mouse you'll love it. I remember making the transition from a tiny, lightweight Logitech Mini Optical to this beast of a Razer DeathAdder, and it took me quite a while to get adjusted to the size, weight, and sensitivity of the mouse.
If I'm not mistaken you can install the Razer drivers and get rid of the glowing logo and scroll wheel; that's what I did with my mouse. I only ever turn it on to show off my setup :P