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Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Mon, 31 January 2011, 00:19:10
Hi, I am unfortunately letting go of my HHKB Pro.  I completely love the Topre switch, but I just simply cannot use a blank keyboard, so I am going to let it go to someone who would actually appreciate it.  It is in very good condition despite the age, few years old.  The previous owner told me that this unit spent most of its time in storage, so it essentially looks very new.  Comes with detachable cord, PS adapter, original box, and the keyboard itself.  Asking $180 shipped CONUS.  PM would be best.


Sorry about the dust, should've dusted it off before taking pictures.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/aznrepute/P1000026-1.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/aznrepute/P1000033.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/aznrepute/P1000027-1.jpg)
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Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Tue, 01 February 2011, 19:24:53
Price drop to $185 shipping included.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: Lethal Squirrel on Tue, 01 February 2011, 19:30:10
man this is really tempting. i don't know if i could handle having blank keys though :(
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: sLeezy on Tue, 01 February 2011, 21:24:26
Quote from: Lethal Squirrel;288575
man this is really tempting. i don't know if i could handle having blank keys though :(


It won't be that bad. Just takes a little getting used to.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: gilgam on Wed, 02 February 2011, 02:40:04
yes it is faster to learn than i thought it was. You just have to accept to type slower for some days, and use the basckspace touch more often ;-)

De plus stickers are fine...
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:03:30
The big problem is the blank keys on the HHKB layout.  If you are not familiar with the HHKB layout, you are going to have a hell of a time adjusting without legends.  That seems to be the number one reason why newcomers to the HHKB end up not liking it.

Also, for people that have complex (read: good) passwords, having blank keys sucks.  Since you don't have any visible feedback on the screen, people often look at their keys when entering passwords.  When you take both away, it gets frustrating.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:25:02
I like having the legends on the keys. I don't look down often as I type, but a quick glance at the keyboard on occasion restores memory and confidence.


3000
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: iMav on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:29:25
GREAT DEAL!!  My HHKB is blank and I love it.  Somebody should definitely jump on this.  

Glad to see you aren't getting rid of your ONLY HHKB bigpook.  And...congrats on 3000 posts.  :)
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:38:40
Pook, iMav, if you happen to have a "spare" Realforce around, you might want to swap the domes from it into your HHKB.  After I did this to mine, the HHKB is a dream not to mention very light.  Taking the additional spring out the spacebar helps,too.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:49:02
Like peanut butter and chocolate. I wish I had the HHKB form factor with BS keys.

No RealForce for me. Came close more than once though : )  

I just took the spring out of the spacebar on the HHKB and am giving that a go.
If I had a RealForce to play with I would try that mod out.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:54:38
We're talking night and day.  Huge difference.  Still, I wish mine had Cherry browns.  The KBC 40% looks promising.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 07:59:11
I have had a couple of filco's with browns, wish I kept them.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 08:04:53
I sold mine sometime back.  I'm glad I did.  I am going to check out the Leopolds when they come in.  I also bought a Noppoo, and it's a beast.  I think it's about time for a "Fire Sale."
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 08:28:53
I liked the Filco, only wish the keycaps were better. I am also waiting for EK to start stocking the Leopolds, at least I think he is going to.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 08:32:37
It should be later this month.  The Leopolds are using a different material for the key caps, so they should be better.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: gilgam on Wed, 02 February 2011, 08:44:15
about touch typing i used to print a layout map and put it o my desk below my screen

I hardly use right now

Is there a problem with the space bar of the HHKB ?
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 08:54:05
No. There is no problem with the spacebar on the HHKB. I was playing around with it this morning and removed the spring. I put the spring back as I like the feel of it better that way. Personal pref on that one.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 09:45:22
Quote from: gilgam;288766
Is there a problem with the space bar of the HHKB ?


No.  Topre has a "reinforcing" spring on their 'boards (both Realforce and HHKB) to stiffen the spacebar a bit.  You can remove it to lighten the resistance.  I like to remove it on the HHKB, because I think the HHKB's space is too stiff.  I don't remove it on the Realforce, because the spacebar is fine and the spring gives it a more solid feel.

Like pook said, it's a preference thing.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: v193r on Wed, 02 February 2011, 10:31:38
wat does taking the spring out of the spacebar do?
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 02 February 2011, 10:36:04
It lowers the resistance by about 5g. or so.  It also helps stabilize the key.  On the HHKB, it doesn't really do much, so I take it out for the lower resistance.  On the Realforce, it gives the key a more solid feel when you press it.  I like the more solid feel on the Realforce, so I leave it in.

Keep in mind, this isn't the spring under the dome, it's a seperate spring right under the key cap.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bigpook on Wed, 02 February 2011, 10:57:17
Yes, removing the spring on the spacebar of the HHKB is trivial.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Thu, 03 February 2011, 19:39:50
Whoa, so many posts here.

Despite it all, this thing is still for sale!  Have had a few PM's asking for lower, but I think my current price is fair.

FYI, this does come with a printed legend of the keys as shown in the pictures.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Sun, 06 February 2011, 22:15:50
Bump...
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Tue, 08 February 2011, 12:40:33
Last price drop...
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bugfix on Tue, 08 February 2011, 12:51:01
PM'ed
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: gilgam on Tue, 08 February 2011, 13:28:16
idem
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: bugfix on Tue, 08 February 2011, 13:36:32
I think I'd rather not buy it on second thought, the layout might be too special for me.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Tue, 08 February 2011, 20:26:42
Oh man, if I had the money...

(Off Topic: Want to buy a kidney? j/k)
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: nwk on Wed, 09 February 2011, 13:50:50
PM'ed

(Also, hello geekhack!)
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: notlofty on Wed, 09 February 2011, 14:23:16
Ah, good price for a HHKB, unfortunately HHKB are just so expensive... I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up yet tho.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: acchen on Wed, 09 February 2011, 15:57:06
This is sold, folks.  Thanks, Nick, and welcome to GeekHack.
Title: HHKB Pro White/Grey with Blank Key
Post by: nwk on Sat, 12 February 2011, 17:56:35
I just received the board, it seems to be in great shape and I'm really enjoying it.  Thanks a lot!