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Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 07:33:25: (http://i.imgur.com/VUPD0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QDxyg.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/4wi0n.jpg)

I am still at work. Much more pics and a proper review later today or tomorrow.

PS: Taiwan to Germany within 18 hours or so again. Seems DHL wants to make up for their xmas failure.

FULL REVIEW BY ME NOW UP HERE (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=125&p=1820)
FULL REVIEW BY WEBWIT (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 11 February 2011, 07:43:44: I want, I want, I want... Can't wait for the review.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 11 February 2011, 07:56:11: Been looking forward to your review for quite some time now. I can't stop refreshing geekhack now :)

Any change you'll get a review done today?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: ironman31 on Fri, 11 February 2011, 07:58:30: hm, maybe be a possibility of me buying this sometime in the near future...
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: guilleguillaume on Fri, 11 February 2011, 08:23:04: DO WANT!

Fantastic Keyboard, at least talking about size :D
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: gilgam on Fri, 11 February 2011, 08:32:03: how did you buy it ? via a broker ?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 08:49:27: Quote from: gilgam;293344
how did you buy it ? via a broker ?

To quote ripster:

Quote from: ripster
Just create a forum like DeskAuthority and **** up some free review keyboards.

No seriously, I was offered a sample by KBC and asked if I would like to review it, so now here it is. First impressions are very good. The thing is so small and light. I think it would literally fit into my pocket.

I was happy to see they used a full set of "default" keycaps, meaning no fancy offcenter stems or different sizes. The board is therefore fully compatible with all custom (Ducky/Filco/KBC/SP) keycap sets on the market right now.

With custom keycaps:
(http://i.imgur.com/70ZuA.jpg)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 11 February 2011, 08:57:17: That thing is so sexy. If these become widely available, I think I'm going to have to pick one up.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:01:43: I'll go back and do some real work, then start writing first impressions and stuff. Might publish a review later tonight still!

In the meantime, here is some nudity:
(http://i.imgur.com/OecdQ.jpg)

Also gives you a first idea on how the case construction works. Basically there is no top of the case, bezel free design. The PCB is screwed directly to the bottom, which thanks to the size makes for a surprisingly solid construction.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: chimera15 on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:09:35: The problem I have and have had with this board is that it's pcb mounted switches, there are no fn keys, or arrows. Does it have layers at all? How do you use function keys? Is there a numpad?

Is the pcb mounted switch noticeable on the sound or feel? Is the board rigged for alps switches as well?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:13:12: Arrow key design is very smart, function keys are there too. I'll mention all of that in detail in the full review.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:28:07: Where is the girl?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: kidchunks on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:29:15: Quote from: sixty;293346

With custom keycaps:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/70ZuA.jpg)

Damn, you read my mind. Be sure to take some shots with some sexy blanks!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:39:31: This keyboard looks amazing...but no real arrow keys make me sad.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:40:47: Quote from: keyboardlover;293357
Where is the girl?

Left at the customs for further inspection by the officers.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 11:31:02: 3, 2, 1! tongues at the ready!

(http://i.imgur.com/KyMBr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qfT8P.jpg)

I took it to my special place, where the good photos are made for some more teasing. (http://i.imgur.com/3mO3s.png)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 11 February 2011, 12:17:24: I hear she got held up in customs. I definitely had nothing to do with it.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:30:35: whats kbc e-mail might e-mail them for review sample :P
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:41:45: Princess, please.. Are you going to use your "cute face" look over webcam to convince them, or what?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:42:36: .............
ever gonna stop with that?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:44:32: yeh i did but i didnt know they speaked dutch.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:45:13: Quote from: runeazn;293529
.............
ever gonna stop with that?

The internet never forgets. But seriously, I responded with a bad joke to a bad joke.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:46:10: lol whers panda?
but srsly somebody have their e-mail?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:46:48: Too busy fondling his Realforce of DOOM.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:47:47: lol ok :P

out of boredom i made a forum..
since i neglected my old forum it got closed, and i was bored today i made another one :P
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:48:22: Google docs dying on me midway through the review.

"Trying to reach google.com....."

Autosave better worked when it goes back up.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:48:52: lol
sixty do you know their e-mail..

a
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:49:45: There are a few ways to get in touch with these guys.

1. Join the KBC forum or QQ KBC discussion group (most of them are here) or YY discussion group.
2. Collect keyboards, make a website with your collections.
3. Become a distributor in EU/ America. (they are looking for enthusiasts, not merchants.)

That's all I can think of for now...
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:52:56: i might become a distrubutor communication won't be hard :P
and a webstore would be run by me :P

so step 3 would be able to be done.
and can somebody gimme the e-mail plox?

and i maybe become a distributor :P
very unlikely but still possible.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:53:28: I talk to them using smoke signals.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 14:53:58: lol wut XD?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 15:02:28: I thought runeazn was like 14 or something anyway. How are you gonna run a business in the EU? :rolleyes:

Anyway, google docs working again. Gonna finish up that review.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 15:10:46: nice :D

Its not impossible to run.
but i sure do know there is not much interest in EU..
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 15:13:08: rofl :P
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: manfaux on Fri, 11 February 2011, 15:45:05: nice shots ! looks like we have a real HHKB killer around this time.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 15:52:19: i hope i can het my hands on one.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 11 February 2011, 16:36:52: Review up here (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=125). Next it will be webwit's turn. He might not be so gentle?!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: celery on Fri, 11 February 2011, 16:48:32: Quote from: runeazn;293550
i might become a distrubutor communication won't be hard :P
and a webstore would be run by me :P

so step 3 would be able to be done.
and can somebody gimme the e-mail plox?

and i maybe become a distributor :P
very unlikely but still possible.

If you're going to go around begging for "review samples," at least have the courtesy to do it in the right forum.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 11 February 2011, 17:22:18: Quote from: celery;293615
If you're going to go around begging for "review samples," at least have the courtesy to do it in the right forum.

huh?
i aint begging here for review samples...
i was begging for email adresses..
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: bakageta on Fri, 11 February 2011, 17:31:11: Wow, the review looks great, I think I definitely need one of these.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 11 February 2011, 19:14:37: The real hhkb killer is the $130 topre he001100 I got from Taobao :P
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: pang0011 on Fri, 11 February 2011, 19:35:30: This is not a HHKB killer, that goal is still a long way off. KBC poker is just a RMB500-600 keyboard.

Very nice review, particularly the photos! but what can't be seen in the review is the endurance of KBC. I always thought development of 40%/60% is not a profit-making business (pls correct me if I am wrong), because such kind of keyboards is not for majority. Therefore, I would like to take this opportunity to salute to KBC internationally, for their repeated attempts to keep improving their keyboards.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Fri, 11 February 2011, 19:41:28: I would say that the founding members of KBC are in the process of finding their ideal keyboard. When you are not easily satisfied and can't find one, you make your own keyboard.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: kill will on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:10:24: i wonder why its called poker. as a poker fanatic i wish it had some sort of spade or something. why call it poker ?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:15:35: It does not reveal its true face; fn power!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:29:40: A lot of Norwegians are named Hansen. I fail to see the relevance.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:39:47: Short for "poke her" referring to the Asian chick it comes with.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:52:50: Quote from: keyboardlover;293755
Short for "poke her" referring to the Asian chick it comes with.

Ah, poking is not appropriate though.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 20:59:00: Yeah where did the chick go? I think we have to wait for webwit's review; isn't "hands on" legal in Holland?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 21:27:41: I've heard it's practically free on the island as well, but I don't think chicks like to discuss keyboards.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 21:34:30: What no, the island founded by Norwegians. Norwegians created Island, Greenland, Ireland and France, among others.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 21:49:36: What, that's slander!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Fri, 11 February 2011, 22:05:27: Gambling is not allowed in Norway, unless the state profit on it. The only indians who stomp on our asses are the sami people, and that's only because it's not pc to sterilize
them anymore. LOL
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: pitashen on Fri, 11 February 2011, 23:17:39: so, another community brewed keyboard from China/Taiwan...
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 03:24:51: For those that asked... it seems to be six key rollover over USB with no limitations to be found. I tried a bunch of combinations and they all pass. Rip-o-tine passed also.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 12 February 2011, 03:37:18: Awesome review sixty! Thanks for that.

The review just confirmed my initial thoughts that I need to get one of these when they become widely available.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 03:42:37: Few more info I figured out this morning:

Special fn keys:

Web: 172 (0xAC)
Mute: 173 (0xAD)
Vol+: 175 (0xAF)
Vol-: 174 (0xAE)
Task: sends Ctrl+Shift+Esc
Cal: 183 (0xB7)

So even if you don't need the media keys, they can be remapped with AHK to something else, since they use the proper scancodes. Good stuff!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 12 February 2011, 04:59:24: Is it possible to remap the fn key? Does the pcb use surface mount diodes? Does it have full nkro over ps/2?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 05:21:37: Quote from: RiGS;293891
Is it possible to remap the fn key? Does the pcb use surface mount diodes? Does it have full nkro over ps/2?

FN key is hardware based, so no remapping. I get six key rollovers over USB with no blocking on any combination that I tried. There are no diodes in the switches, so I assume they are on the bottom of the PCB. I forgot to take pics of the bottom, might add them later.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 12 February 2011, 07:07:12: Awesome, definitely have to get one or two of this boards!
Btw, sixty, you really need to get some canned air... ;P
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 07:25:00: i would be glad to be undercover spy for GH at KBC but i am really bad at reading chinese..
[edit]
oh i got a pm of a KBC'er you can ask him.. seems a KBC'er has a GH account here.
but.. in almost one year he made 3 posts rofl
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 08:50:59: Quote from: TheSoulhunter;293918
Awesome, definitely have to get one or two of this boards!
Btw, sixty, you really need to get some canned air... ;P

Yeah, screw canned air though. I have a little compressor at home that I usually use when taking pictures, but I don't carry that around to the office (where I took the pics).

Also people might be surprised if they found out what the background/surface was that I took the pics on. If anyone figures it out I'll give them a free....uhhh.. keycap or something!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Metalix on Sat, 12 February 2011, 08:51:46: Great review Sixty! Although I do not know much about keyboards this one is sure nice to have it :)
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Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 08:53:48: Also I checked the bottom of the PCB again. Diodes for every switch as expected. We also have a familiar "PCB v1.1" font and Holtek ICs.... I believe I know who made these now.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 08:55:44: a piece of vinyl ??

the surface,
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Post by: theMonoid on Sat, 12 February 2011, 09:16:31: Quote from: ripster;293724
Who IS the KBC?

Are they like the Wu Tang?

Power Equality Always C Everything My Brutha

Hi guys, I'm a Chinese and happen to have the same hobit as you all: the keyboards!

I'll try to answer some questions with my best efforts, even though I haven't gotten the Poker, but I can forward your questions to them and get you back the answers.

KBC, it's the name of the company in Taiwan which produce this keyboard, the full name is:

THE (K)EY(B)OARD TO (C)HEER YOU UP

It's also the motto of the company: Make an enjoyable keyboard for us all.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 10:16:59: Quote from: ripster;293967
PCB v1.1 and Holtek is not all that uncommon. Holteks are pretty popular controllers.

And nobody wants a Version 1.0 PCB.

Font is identical to the Costar one though. Datacomp uses a different one for their pcbs.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 10:45:50: so glad to have a 40% poker~~~~~

give you a link to see more picture about 40%

dont worry about chinese ,you have google,right?

http://bbs.kbc-china.com/forum-122-1.html
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Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 10:52:52: wohoo lego :D
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Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 10:54:12: Quote from: itspeeds;293988

dont worry about chinese ,you have google,right?

Yup! It works surprisingly well too, haha:

(http://i.imgur.com/NlScC.png)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:04:23: we are so surprised to see so many of you have noppon mini &1087~~
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:08:22: Yeah, Noppoo became pretty popular here. So popular that it was the #1 selling item on a Taobao foreign buying agent for a week or something.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:16:58: we have many noppoo's?
how long was i away?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:23:20: taobao also have a foreign buying link?~~~so surprise ~~~
i think you will buy it at ebay or buy it directly

we are now talking about it in our QQ group~~~XD
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Post by: Hotneca on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:25:40: Quote from: itspeeds;293994
we are so surprised to see so many of you have noppon mini &1087~~

= =...I’m hotneca,hi everyone

I said “scared to death” mean I‘m surprised you have noppoo mini 84 so commonly..
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:27:00: a hot what?
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Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:27:25: Quote from: itspeeds;294001
taobao also have a foreign buying link?~~~so surprise ~~~
i think you will buy it at ebay or buy it directly

we are now talking about it in our QQ group~~~XD

I'm surprised you guys don't know. Actually its a big business in China. Many students seem to do it for some extra bucks.

Few examples:
http://taobaospree.com/
http://taobaofocus.com/
http://yoybuy.com/
http://www.9channel.com/
http://www.myobook.net/

There are dozens, if not hundreds more of these services. Basically it works like:

1) foreigner wants an item on taobao
2) agency orders it and charges 10% on top
3) everyone happy
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:27:31: Quote from: runeazn;293998
we have many noppoo's?
how long was i away?

we see it in your signatures~~~you also have many 1087~~~XD
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Hotneca on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:29:34: Quote from: itspeeds;294001
taobao also have a foreign buying link?~~~so surprise ~~~
i think you will buy it at ebay or buy it directly

we are now talking about it in our QQ group~~~XD

QQ is an im software like MSN =.=~
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:30:19: i know?
cuz my bro has it :P
and i rememba i have one too :P
but aint using it.

[edit] this needs to be called the KBC welcome club :P
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Post by: Hotneca on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:31:19: Quote from: runeazn;294004
a hot what?

hotneca is my ID... short for hotman,vurtne,alca ..
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:31:46: lol ok
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:42:45: we kbc also have a special space for you ~~~~if you want you can also talk with us in this place

http://bbs.kbc-china.com/forum-134-1.html
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:44:39: we kbc also have a special space for you ~~~~if you want you can also talk with us in this place

http://bbs.kbc-china.com/forum-134-1.html
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 11:50:34: Quote from: itspeeds;294014
we kbc also have a special space for you ~~~~if you want you can also talk with us in this place

http://bbs.kbc-china.com/forum-134-1.html

I signed up to KBC forums a year or two ago. Sadly I never managed to post anything, none of my posts ever show up. I think it has to do with this:

(http://i.imgur.com/Db4xv.png)
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Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 12:01:35: answer KBC

you are so lucy ~~~some other question you must answer in chinese
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Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 12:28:50: i am still very interested in how can you get it ?
in kbc we only have 50 poker at first.Only in kbc
it is still not officially sold.

--
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Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 13:20:36: Quote from: sixty;294015
I signed up to KBC forums a year or two ago. Sadly I never managed to post anything, none of my posts ever show up. I think it has to do with this:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Db4xv.png)

ey sup those questions are easy..
i got 63+1=...(64)
and a normal verification.. 3QA3 etc.
whats so hard about it??

it opens a lil flash/java i dunno didnt check popup in the registration form and that's the question you need to answer to pass the verification.

oh wait u got Chinese question rofl?!!!
i got 63+1=
and i accidentally closed it and got another math problem guess i wass lucky!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 12 February 2011, 14:07:36: Quote from: itspeeds;294006
we see it in your signatures~~~you also have many 1087~~~XD

And I have both of those here where the Santa lives. Hopefully I can get a Poker too.

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/joulupukki_2T8_uu.jpg)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 14:16:04: (http://i.imgur.com/pGECp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Kj99S.jpg)

(http://pic.kbc-china.com/image/face/wsm//10.jpg)

(I love the KBC forum emoticons)
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Post by: nigritude on Sat, 12 February 2011, 15:10:50: wow, the glowing WASD is so money
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Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 12 February 2011, 15:15:32: That might just be the best looking wasd set I've ever seen.

(http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f170/133143d1252671957-evora-racecar-house-do-want_thumbnail.jpg)
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Post by: sixty on Sat, 12 February 2011, 16:05:01: The board is really easy to mod (assuming you know how to solder). That mod took maybe 20 minutes or something. The PCB is very neatly labelled and there are actually LED holes in the PCB for every single switch. A full backlit mod might be possible with some more hacking.
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Post by: runeazn on Sat, 12 February 2011, 17:15:22: where did you get those translucent keycaps from :D?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sat, 12 February 2011, 17:25:01: From Clack Factory made by hundreds of talented gnomes!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: s7e on Sat, 12 February 2011, 17:26:49: Thanks for the nice review. This is the perfect keyboard for me. I love the layout and the 'arrow lock' and 'esc lock' features. I hope the price is good and easy to get in the USA. I wish the fn key labels were not in such a bright white (the only bad thing I can say). I would love to hear an audio clip of some typing on this with blue switches since it doesn't have the standard metal back plate. Here I was thinking the wait for the leopold was stressful, the wait until April/March (if it comes out then) for this will seem like an eternity. Can't wait to get a blues switched one with some replacement key caps.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: s7e on Sat, 12 February 2011, 19:59:02: I have a few quick questions, does anybody know what the dark blue switch is? Also the green switches used for space bars are the same as regular blues, except slightly stiffer? Do they still have the same tactile bump and click of the blue?
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Post by: JohnehJH on Sat, 12 February 2011, 20:13:21: Sold.

This will be my first mechanical keyboard. I was going to get either a Filco or the Rosewill but this beast is far too sexy to pass up.

Any pre-order list or group order or release date on it?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: theMonoid on Sat, 12 February 2011, 21:01:22: Quote from: runeazn;293550
i might become a distrubutor communication won't be hard :P
and a webstore would be run by me :P

so step 3 would be able to be done.
and can somebody gimme the e-mail plox?

and i maybe become a distributor :P
very unlikely but still possible.

Here is the e-mail: 37260111(AT)qq.com

The English board at http://bbs.kbc-china.com is prefered as there you can get response immediately.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 12 February 2011, 21:43:52: Quote from: themonoid;294241
here is the e-mail: 37260111(at)qq.com

the english board at http://bbs.kbc-china.com is prefered as there you can get response immediately.

你是台湾的还是大陆的？请看你的pm.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: itspeeds on Sat, 12 February 2011, 22:31:55: haha ~~~~awsome~~~~
show my poker

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15452&d=1297571375)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15453&d=1297571495)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: clickclack on Sun, 13 February 2011, 01:11:38: sixty-
It looks like you took those recent pics on an electric stove, haahaa, they look great! =)

Nice wasd set ;)
Looks killer with your config.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: calavera on Sun, 13 February 2011, 01:21:34: Okay I'm sold. This will be my next keyboard. When will these be available and where do I order? :D
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: kill will on Sun, 13 February 2011, 01:49:27: i hope these become available state side.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: cyberphine on Sun, 13 February 2011, 02:09:06: KBC can put me down for one, or two depending. I was looking for a WASD 2nd layer arrow keys. Thought I would have to use Auto for it.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Reaif on Sun, 13 February 2011, 04:18:31: I really like the looks of that board. Does KBC ship to the US direct? If not. you KBC guys should certainly start. There appears to be quite a bit of interest here...
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Sun, 13 February 2011, 05:04:55: Quote from: itspeeds;294266
haha ~~~~awsome~~~~
show my poker

Nice dark blue switches! Wanna trade a dark blue one for a transparent case one?

(http://i.imgur.com/Kj99S.jpg)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: YpoCaramel on Sun, 13 February 2011, 05:37:51: Very nice mate, very very nice.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: kill will on Sun, 13 February 2011, 12:22:54: ya im pretty sure kbc could sell a boat load of keyboards to us stupid, lazy, fat americans.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Sun, 13 February 2011, 14:39:11: Quote from: kill will;294455
ya im pretty sure kbc could sell a boat load of keyboards to us stupid, lazy, fat americans.

Don't forget the fat Europeans.

(http://www.domnik.net/photos/tp/07dm/mid/22/12.jpg)

I don't think this keyboard would have much demand amongst normal sized people.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 13 February 2011, 19:45:20: I thought he seemed legit.

Quote from: Runeazn
it needs to be available,otherwise i cant get it rofl.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 13 February 2011, 20:00:03: I like DeskThority. Their wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) design is clean and straightforward =)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: notlofty on Tue, 15 February 2011, 00:25:01: I've also decided to wait to make this my first mechanical board.
I have very shaky hands making soldering impossible, so if I don't like the switches I get I can always buy new switches for much cheaper than a new board. That plus the small size equals a win I think.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Fiasco on Tue, 15 February 2011, 08:16:57: Quote from: notlofty;295239
I've also decided to wait to make this my first mechanical board.
I have very shaky hands making soldering impossible, so if I don't like the switches I get I can always buy new switches for much cheaper than a new board. That plus the small size equals a win I think.

:peace:

nvmetek@gmail.com
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Tue, 15 February 2011, 08:31:07: Quote from: ripster;294600
Runeazn has a keyboard forum too. Here. (http://clickykeyboards.tk/phpBB3/index.php) No Princess jokes or the mod will kick you.

I just had to register and check what was inside. I think two keyboard forums is enough for me.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: calavera on Tue, 15 February 2011, 10:30:12: why cant this be available sooner?!?!???!
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Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 15 February 2011, 10:31:27: The PokeHer girl is kinda busy atm.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 15 February 2011, 12:23:01: I like that you are jealous of it :D
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: panda-R on Tue, 15 February 2011, 17:35:55: Television rules the nation!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Tue, 15 February 2011, 17:56:27: How is round 2 coming along panda? Can you include neon keys for the poker with a legend of this picture of my mother that glows in the dark?

Thx
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: AtMyHands on Tue, 15 February 2011, 22:36:23: this keyboard is the keyboard of my DREAMS
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: panda-R on Tue, 15 February 2011, 23:43:39: Quote from: sixty;295735
How is round 2 coming along panda? Can you include neon keys for the poker with a legend of this picture of my mother that glows in the dark?

Thx

OH SNAP

i forgot about round 2 due to the state of the world, CRISIS!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: notlofty on Wed, 16 February 2011, 01:42:32: You can't forget about making more! We all want one!
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 16 February 2011, 02:18:07: http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-5078-1-1.html

someone can bug imsto and tell him to include this in the group buy... he loves chrysanthemum
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: calavera on Wed, 16 February 2011, 02:20:48: Quote from: laden3;295941
http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-5078-1-1.html

someone can bug imsto and tell him to include this in the group buy... he loves chrysanthemum

Are those aluminium? Looks extremely expensive. :D
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 16 February 2011, 02:31:07: IDK. I thought scarface made some aluminum ones at a very reasonable price.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 16 February 2011, 05:16:14: Quote from: laden3;295941
http://bbs.kbc-china.com/thread-5078-1-1.html

someone can bug imsto and tell him to include this in the group buy... he loves chrysanthemum

These are really F%/#ing ugly.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: manfaux on Wed, 16 February 2011, 05:23:41: we should do a GH mass group buy when this thing finally gets released. God I want this thing so bad.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: db_Iodine on Wed, 16 February 2011, 10:11:01: Quote from: manfaux;295986
we should do a GH mass group buy when this thing finally gets released. God I want this thing so bad.

imsto already said he's going to make it possible for geekhack members to purchase this keyboard when it becomes widely available. He's such a nice guy.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 16 February 2011, 10:32:24: I was just browsing through imsto's taobao shop, and found this at the top of the list:

KBC 40 Poker full keyboard to change the red axis Services (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9065559334) (This is what google translated)

Any idea what that is? Do they change your existing Poker switches to reds?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Wed, 16 February 2011, 13:54:17: In related news, we have been told the OEM information today. The keyboard will be available in red switches too from the looks of it. The price is still not final, but they are aiming for $100~110 for the foreign (read American) market.

Also the docs mention a heavier (600g) version with a steel plate. Whether or not that will be available with the normal version on launch, I have not been told yet.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: manfaux on Wed, 16 February 2011, 14:01:06: Quote from: sixty;296216
In related news, we have been told the OEM information today. The keyboard will be available in red switches too from the looks of it. The price is still not final, but they are aiming for $100~110 for the foreign (read American) market.

Also the docs mention a heavier (600g) version with a steel plate. Whether or not that will be available with the normal version on launch, I have not been told yet.

isn't it just 499 RMB? (about 80 USD), where did the 100~110 number come from?

Also the KBC people said the retail version will come with PBT keycaps just like these first runs, you might want to edit that in your review sixty.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 16 February 2011, 14:06:28: We don't have a US distributor... Unless you become one...
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Wed, 16 February 2011, 14:12:03: Also looking at the latest pics, it seems like they have already taken heart of one of the points i mentioned in my review. The new version that imsto posted a pic of seems to have LED indicators in the keycaps for the arrow mode. :alien:
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Wed, 16 February 2011, 14:15:41: imsto modded that himself... he drilled a hole, inserted some hot glue, then heated it with a lighter. ~XD
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Fiasco on Wed, 16 February 2011, 23:06:17: Quote from: sixty;294106
The board is really easy to mod (assuming you know how to solder). That mod took maybe 20 minutes or something. The PCB is very neatly labelled and there are actually LED holes in the PCB for every single switch. A full backlit mod might be possible with some more hacking.

We will be launched the POKER DIY kit in the future.

So that,you guys can MOD/DIY your unique POKER

nvmetek@gmail.com
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Wed, 16 February 2011, 23:50:42: Who OEMs for KBC?
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Post by: ajx on Wed, 16 February 2011, 23:59:01: what about Europe market (France?)
we come well and truly last ;(
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: panda-R on Thu, 17 February 2011, 00:03:36: Quote from: ripster;296437
Hey, I figured out that Laden3 and Imsto are the mysterious KBC. Who's the third to make it a Triad?
Show Image
(http://thevisiblestrand.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/wu.jpg?w=450&h=338)

I'm just a panda with love.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: Minskleip on Thu, 17 February 2011, 04:32:37: Quote from: Fiasco;296520
We will be launched the POKER DIY kit in the future.

So that,you guys can MOD/DIY your unique POKER

nvmetek@gmail.com

Will the kit come with programmable controller?
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Thu, 17 February 2011, 13:27:03: Quote from: Phaedrus2129;296545
Who OEMs for KBC?

Can't be sure, but from the PCB, the controller and the documents it looks a whole lot like Costar.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: manfaux on Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:17:13: Quote from: Minskleip;296602
Will the kit come with programmable controller?

From the KBC forums its looks like they are still debating on that.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 17 February 2011, 21:22:34: Quote from: ripster;296437
Hey, I figured out that Laden3 and Imsto are the mysterious KBC. Who's the third to make it a Triad?
Show Image
(http://thevisiblestrand.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/wu.jpg?w=450&h=338)

I'm not... imsto likes to show off x.x
He showed it to us in an IM
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: sixty on Fri, 18 February 2011, 18:09:12: Webwit's review is now available too. (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178) He also has the much requested pictures of the PCB, which I forgot to take. Enjoy.
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 18 February 2011, 18:09:33: Webwit wrote a review here. (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178)
Title: KBC Poker - hands on
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 20 October 2011, 13:39:39: nice review