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Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 13:13:24: Link (http://www.intel.com/technology/io/thunderbolt/index.htm)

So, that's why they stalled on USB 3 controllers...
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: Ekaros on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:02:46: Hmm, external GPU? Pci-e in display port out?

Intresting nevertheless... Why can't they decide on one standard to follow?
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:04:21: I dunno, it's more like an extender port. Unless it's as cheap to produce as USB.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:11:10: I think Thunderbolt is designed to scale up to something like 100Gbps. I'm not sure if that will involve separate versions like USB, if it doesn't, it would be rather excellent.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:36:13: Same connector port as the mini Display port, and apparently Thunderbolt is compatible with Display Port too.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:47:17: Makes sense, as DisplayPort also works in daisy chain configurations.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:48:45: Given that DVI still hasn't managed to replace VGA in flatpanel monitors, I'm not hopeful about DisplayPort taking over the world any time soon.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:50:41: By sheer luck of the draw, I'm currently using DisplayPort on one of my monitors atm.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:51:13: cash grab for apple right now. Also, I thought THIS was a Tunderbolt. (http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon)
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:02:31: I thought THIS was a Thunderbolt

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg/800px-A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg)
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:08:07: Quote from: ch_123;301021
I thought THIS was a Thunderbolt

No THIS is a Thunderbolt:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Republic_P-47N-5_three_ship_formation_061020-F-1234P-037.jpg)

Yours is a Thunderbolt II AKA the A-10 'Warthog.'
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:10:04: Damn. He got served.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:16:59: LOL, the Thunderbolt II is a gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8) with a plane strapped on it.

(http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/gau-8.jpg)
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 26 February 2011, 05:40:20: Quote from: DaemonRaccoon;301182
LOL, the Thunderbolt II is a gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8) with a plane strapped on it.

Your image (http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/gau-8.jpg) was not visible.
Check out this image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GAU-8_meets_VW_Type_1.jpg) also for scale ...
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sat, 26 February 2011, 11:07:31: Hmm, it loaded after I refreshed the page, must just be too big or something.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: keyb_gr on Sat, 26 February 2011, 14:14:01: Quote from: ch_123;301021
I thought THIS was a Thunderbolt

Show Image
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg/800px-A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg)

Almost looks like the shape was inspired by this one:
(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW6/He162-02f.jpg)
Of course it might just have been the requirements WRT manoeuverability, but I'd think old wartime concepts were known among those who came up with the A-10.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: instantkamera on Sat, 26 February 2011, 15:15:14: Quote from: ripster;301356
DEFINITELY a cash grab according to Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/)(a most unreliable source).

I wouldn't know, I came to that conclusion all on my own.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: Arc'xer on Sat, 26 February 2011, 18:59:01: Quote from: keyb_gr;301412
Almost looks like the shape was inspired by this one:
Of course it might just have been the requirements WRT manoeuverability, but I'd think old wartime concepts were known among those who came up with the A-10.

More to this aircraft (http://www.luft46.com/junkers/jugap.html) rather than the 162.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 26 February 2011, 19:19:40: Quote from: ripster;301356
DEFINITELY a cash grab according to Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/)(a most unreliable source). Intel is just doing it to keep Apple happy (as if they'll ever get the iPad or iPhone business...).

My stock needs a bump - it's starting to STALL!!!! BUY IT!
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(http://www.thestreet.idmanagedsolutions.com/charts/advanced/advanced.chart?HEIGHT=275&WIDTH=555&TIME_SPAN=1Y&RESOLUTION=D&SYMBOL_US=AAPL)

Steve Jobs idea of course.

You might want to sell that stuff before Steve Jobs keels over and dies. According to the National Enquirer, that could be any week now :P
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 26 February 2011, 21:18:13: Speaking of which, the passing of Ken Olsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Olsen) the other week went largely unmentioned.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 27 February 2011, 15:07:47: Quote from: ripster;301551
I'm pretty sure the market is assuming that.

I, for one, will find it a sad day. You won't see anybody mourning Ottelini's passing at Intel.

Can't think of anybody else that has changed Technology as much from Apple/Woz, NeXT, Pixar, Apple/Jobs.
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2009/1/23/1232723715350/Steve-Jobs-and-original-M-001.jpg)

Hey, I have that keyboard!

Innovators/forward thinkers/ it's an interesting evolution when the lifetime of work is considered and the overall impact that is felt.
Title: Intel releases "Thunderbolt" - possible successor to USB
Post by: Canada on Mon, 28 February 2011, 11:28:05: This is an interesting interface. I will look into it further when (or if) the optical version of this is realized for the mainstream market.