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Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 15:59:32
(http://i.imgur.com/CICpi.jpg)

3 per household, better get your buying agents ready.

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=233 (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=233)
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Orphagn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:02:24
This is what I have been waiting for, but I don't know if I wanna drop $175 on another board with Reds. If only the Noppoo had reds...
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:04:37
If these are only available from Diatec's website, then why has Taobao already listed them (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9352675397) anyway?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:05:21
I thought the red was discontinued. Or are the using up the last reserves?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:05:42
why are the reds popular..
the clicky is just it.. cherry mx blue ftw

btw clears are discountuined and red are official now.
but their delivery time had double-quadrupled
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:07:47
Quote from: runeazn;301025
why are the reds popular..


I wonder why Cherries in general are popular. I started with the most popular of them all (the blue) and I can't stand it.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:08:13
Quote from: db_Iodine;301022
If these are only available from Diatec's website, then why has Taobao already listed them (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9352675397) anyway?


URL does not work here. Anyway, I would not be surprised. Diatec is known for stuff like this. I think none of their limited editions ever have been very limited. Think Filco White and Italian Red.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Orphagn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:08:34
db_Iodine, take out the "?" at the end of your link and the right product will come up.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:08:36
Quote from: runeazn;301025
why are the reds popular..
the clicky is just it.. cherry mx blue ftw

btw clears are discountuined and red are official now.
but their delivery time had double-quadrupled

Really? Rofl.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:09:11
Quote from: bugfix;301023
I thought the red was discontinued. Or are the using up the last reserves?


Reds came back again this month.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:09:45
Quote from: sixty;301033
Reds came back again this month.

Must be that time of the month!
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:11:52
Quote from: Orphagn;301031
db_Iodine, take out the "?" at the end of your link and the right product will come up.


Accidentally fked the url tags. Should be fixed now.

I might just throw Obook an email and see what the final price would be.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:11:59
Ripster, who is the USA Filco distributor?

Oh yea, there isn't one.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:12:52
Quote from: sixty;301033
Reds came back again this month.


Then it makes sense why they scaled back on the clears...
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:16:35
Given their popularity I'm actually tempted to try the Reds, but are they even suitable for a typist?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:17:27
I think KL likes them quite much for typing.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Orphagn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:22:48
Quote from: db_Iodine;301038
Accidentally fked the url tags. Should be fixed now.

I might just throw Obook an email and see what the final price would be.


Let me know what their response is, I MIGHT get a white tenkeyless.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Ekaros on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:26:54
So there might be ISO-board in forseeable future with reds?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: db_Iodine on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:38:33
Quote from: Orphagn;301051
Let me know what their response is, I MIGHT get a white tenkeyless.


I'm trying to pull myself together and reason that I don't need another keyboard. The Realforce (that I'm still waiting on) is going to bite a big hole in my wallet, so I might just let someone else try out if this Filco is worth the higher price tag.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:40:44
Quote from: db_Iodine;301056
I'm trying to pull myself together and reason that I don't need another keyboard. The Realforce (that I'm still waiting on) is going to bite a big hole in my wallet, so I might just let someone else try out if this Filco is worth the higher price tag.


Same here, I just scraped together the ~260€ the new Topre tenkeyless will cost, so someone else can go ahead.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:49:18
Just wait until I release my doctoral thesis on the TPETJP (Topre Placebo Effect To Justify Purchase). In the meantime compare the honest impressions of those that did not pay anything from the Topre-Keychain Worldtrip to those who paid $300+ for their rubber domes. Quite obvious.

Yeah yeah, one switch is no way to judge a keyboard and I am just a hater. :lol:

PS: I am not saying anyone should buy this board, with the broker fees and shipping costs the price will be quite ridiculous.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:49:44
Quote from: ripster;301060
I'd say something about Topres feeling like springy rubber domes but KL would go ballistic.


Classic paralipsis.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:51:08
Quote from: sixty;301062
Just wait until I release my doctoral thesis on the TPETJP (Topre Placebo Effect To Justify Purchase).


Don't forget the footnotes.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: woody on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:51:50
Quote from: ripster;301060
I'd say something about Topres feeling like springy rubber domes but KL would go ballistic.


(http://demotivatorsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/touche-my-friend-touche-demotivational-poster-1255897214.jpg)
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:54:21
Quote from: sixty;301062
Just wait until I release my doctoral thesis on the TPETJP (Topre Placebo Effect To Justify Purchase). In the meantime compare the honest impressions of those that did not pay anything from the Topre-Keychain Worldtrip to those who paid $300+ for their rubber domes. Quite obvious.

Yeah yeah, one switch is no way to judge a keyboard and I am just a hater. :lol:

PS: I am not saying anyone should buy this board, with the broker fees and shipping costs the price will be quite ridiculous.


I paid more for my Filco than my HHKB. I sold my Filco. Explain.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:56:02
Quote from: ch_123;301069
I paid more for my Filco than my HHKB. I sold my Filco. Explain.


There goes his Ph.D.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 16:56:26
Quote from: bugfix;301065
Don't forget the footnotes.


Actua lold. Don't worry though, I got my Guttenberg keyboards ready.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: kidchunks on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:00:52
I'm glad I got to try the stn numpad and topre keychain. Reds are nice and I may end up liking them more than browns. But I don't see paying that much for authentic reds when you can build GREDS for cheaper and still have the similar effect.

Quote from: ripster;301067
Well, I just like to emphasize that more expensive doesn't equal better.
Even Limited Edition Filcos with black logos.


I made that mistake buying the cream filco.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: .XL on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:01:39
Quote from: Orphagn;301051
Let me know what their response is, I MIGHT get a white tenkeyless.


Don't buy one through an agent, grab one off armygroup. $160 and you'll have it in 5 days!

Quote from: ripster;301067
Well, I just like to emphasize that more expensive doesn't equal better.

Even Limited Edition Filcos with black logos.


Stuff like that (black Filco logo) sells boards, though. I'd like to try out a red before I buy one. I'm guessing they're just testing the waters with this...like has been previously mentioned this will probably end up in their line up.

On to the subject of Topres...they always seemed to me like glorified rubber domes and because of that I could not justify the expense. I guess I'd just stick with Cherry, true mech boards.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:01:57
Quote from: sixty;301073
Actua lold. Don't worry though, I got my Guttenberg keyboards ready.


Shouldn't you be using the anti Guttenberg one?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:03:02
Quote from: bugfix;301029
I wonder why Cherries in general are popular. I started with the most popular of them all (the blue) and I can't stand it.

I can think of a few reasons:

Quote from: ripster;301060
I'd say something about Topres feeling like springy rubber domes but KL would go ballistic.


LOL. There are times when I asked myself why I paid so much for a keyboard with rubber domes which have a spring inside. I would then switch to another keyboard at home. After about a week or so, I would go back to the Topre and understand why the Topre is not an ordinary rubber dome keyboard. The key feel is entirely different from a regular rubber dome keyboard. That said, i would not say that it's worth the price. I would have preferred it to be priced around the price of a Filco.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: sixty on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:09:32
To go even further offtopic into the Topre stuff:

I once asked an associate of Topre why the Topre keyboards are so expensive. He said a big part of it would be the quality control. Apparently a robot tests every single key on every keyboard that leaves the factory. It does not only check if it works, but also if it has the right resistance and properly springs back into place instantly.

I guess that is why you barely have any bad Topres.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:11:22
Bottom line: Yes they are rubber domes and yes, they are too expensive, but I like 'em and I'm willing to pay the price.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: woody on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:11:31
Quote from: sixty;301082
I guess that is why you barely have any bad Topres.

They should upgrade the robot to do optical inspection on twisted keys.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: bugfix on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:12:25
Quote from: woody;301084
They should upgrade the robot to do optical inspection on twisted keys.


600€ Topres here we come!
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:32:40
Quote from: db_Iodine;301045
I think KL likes them quite much for typing.

You are correct sir =)

Ripster - don't get why you're trolling me harder than a drunk prom date lately...kinda lame.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: manfaux on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:34:28
the sale will be on Diatec's site? How are we supposed to order one?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: steeef on Fri, 25 February 2011, 17:40:50
Interesting news, but I'd be more excited about Clears.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Orphagn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 18:18:13
Quote from: .XL;301077
Don't buy one through an agent, grab one off armygroup. $160 and you'll have it in 5 days!


I meant a white tenkeyless with Reds, not Browns or Blacks.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: runeazn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 18:28:48
but damm thats expesnive
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Orphagn on Fri, 25 February 2011, 18:42:43
Seeing red (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqa6aRHDC4) was a popular song back in my day.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: neo on Fri, 25 February 2011, 19:10:47
Quote from: ripster;301036
I dunno.  I'm still trying to figure out how come Filco can be shipping new stuff when everybody said they were dead.


As soon as KL announced Filco dead they started to come out with all these new exciting products. I wish he would have made the announcement sooner.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: neo on Fri, 25 February 2011, 19:13:59
http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/det.php?prod_c=746

On this page Diatec also says this keyboard has new firmware: "designed for gamers, maximum transmission rate, blah, blah, blah". It is not clear if the new firmware is for the Red Cherry version only or for all new keyboards.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 20:27:56
Quote from: neo;301135
As soon as KL announced Filco dead they started to come out with all these new exciting products. I wish he would have made the announcement sooner.


Oh really? When did I announce that?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: neo on Fri, 25 February 2011, 20:53:03
Quote from: keyboardlover;301154
Oh really? When did I announce that?


Alright, you said "scaling down". Sensitive, aren't we?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:03:31
How much do clothes cost in the Matrix?

(http://content8.flixster.com/question/40/41/39/4041394_std.jpg)
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: neo on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:53:01
Quote from: keyboardlover;301176
How much do clothes cost in the Matrix?


The kids these days... they hear Latin for "new" and all they can think of is Matrix...
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: PostalWorker on Fri, 25 February 2011, 22:29:46
This looks like a pretty sweet keyboard, but too much hassle (and shipping costs) to get a hold of.  Will we ever see a cherry red keyboard here in the states?
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 26 February 2011, 02:33:58
Quote from: PostalWorker;301199
This looks like a pretty sweet keyboard, but too much hassle (and shipping costs) to get a hold of.  Will we ever see a cherry red keyboard here in the states?


Here's what KL said in the gh custom keyboard thread:

Quote from: keyboardlover;299627
EK might offer a board with reds. Therefore there's less chance of a conflict by choosing clears.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: isp on Sat, 26 February 2011, 03:56:09
finally.  i'm in for 2 probably! :rockon:
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: whiteweazel21 on Wed, 02 March 2011, 12:11:49
I just emailed The Keyboard Company asking if they will carry this item with the US distribution on Amazon, and they will be available!! The email I recieved said that the boards are in the US now, and they are just waiting 1-2 weeks for Amazon inventory/setup w0000t!
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: wanabe on Wed, 02 March 2011, 12:15:55
awwwwwweeeesssssssoooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeee
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: ejsteven on Wed, 02 March 2011, 12:43:11
For Australians, the filco distributor already have the reds on sale and will be shipped out to buyers within the next 1 - 2 days.

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/KE-FKBN104MR-EB2/1838/
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/KE-FKBN87MR-EB2/1838/

Not exactly cheap though.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: PostalWorker on Wed, 02 March 2011, 13:07:06
Quote from: whiteweazel21;303503
I just emailed The Keyboard Company asking if they will carry this item with the US distribution on Amazon, and they will be available!! The email I recieved said that the boards are in the US now, and they are just waiting 1-2 weeks for Amazon inventory/setup w0000t!


You, sir, have just made my day.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: Shuki on Wed, 02 March 2011, 17:52:58
Quote from: whiteweazel21;303503
I just emailed The Keyboard Company asking if they will carry this item with the US distribution on Amazon, and they will be available!! The email I recieved said that the boards are in the US now, and they are just waiting 1-2 weeks for Amazon inventory/setup w0000t!


Hmm, I'm wondering if I would get one if they became available in the UK via the keyboard company.

I just spent quite a bit on a 55g 87u from Korea (ironically I didn't buy it from EliteKeyboards when I had the chance because I thought it was it was too much to pay for a keyboard).
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: victheslik on Thu, 03 March 2011, 06:52:50
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Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 03 March 2011, 06:54:18
You can buy them through the keyboard company at amazon soon.
Imso sells titanium keycaps for the spacebar and arrows in the KBC group buy section.
Title: Filco with MX Reds
Post by: victheslik on Thu, 03 March 2011, 07:35:44
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