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Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WordStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: REVENGE on Fri, 25 February 2011, 19:28:01
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-IBM-Model-M-Space-Saver-Keyboard-1392464-JUN-87-/290538818506?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43a5768bca#ht_6862wt_1139
Bidding started at $124.95 + $22.70 shipping
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Oh Mike! on Fri, 25 February 2011, 21:59:54
Kinda funky looking... Y'all think this is original or did somebody maybe do a key swap?
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 25 February 2011, 22:35:38
WordStar, not WorldStar.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: REVENGE on Sat, 26 February 2011, 03:07:55
Quote from: DanGWanG;301202
WordStar, not WorldStar.
Fixed.

EDIT: Can't edit the title, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: ironman31 on Sun, 27 February 2011, 22:17:39
This one is quite old, from '87.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Mon, 07 March 2011, 18:35:08
Sold for $247.  Wow, maybe I should put some of mine up for sale.  I bought six of these Wordstar SSKs three months ago for around $60 each.  Not bad if I could sell them for a 300% profit.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Tue, 08 March 2011, 01:56:35
Things like that make me wonder just how small of the mech keyboard using population is on this here forum.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:51:22
For this keyboard I would say 82% of the bidders are on this forum somehow.  thats a lot.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:10:53
ripster i won this keyboard.  shill bidding does exist. ive made over 20k on ebay shill bidding cars.  there was only 1 of my kind of car for sale in the country at a specific time, just like there is only 1 ssk available per week.  i can make an ssk auction appear to sell at $500 if i wanted to.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:13:04
if you day trade you can affect actual stock price with one set of large bids. your buying creates the demand.  if you throw 1 million into a stock like netflix in .1 second you will see the chart jump on msnbc, guaranteed.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:14:31
lol ripster i meant i could put one up for sale and have 2 bidders dual it out til the end and sell it to neither of them.  i could also have 1 extra bidder and buy that nib and be out 500 because of stupidity.  that can also occur....
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:15:43
i will never bite that apple.  bill gates 4 lyfe.  thug lyfe.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:16:24
ripster my pinkies were harmed a long time ago. i cant type with them.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:18:31
in terms of efficiency. i have a vast knowledge of reed kellog diagramming and linguistics and prose study.   capital letters are overated.  if this was microsoft word my text would look great.  but its not.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:22:05
lol if you say a bubble is happening the chance of it happening increase.  i am just increasing the chance to create the bubble as well.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:23:43
whats the harm if i troll and it comes out.  i will feel my troll was successful regardless of my actual impact.  its not like im mw and doing it for fun. i want a usb ssk with black case and black keys dang it.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:25:17
lol ya ripster that is a picture of me.  and im in a $1600 pot and loving life.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:33:20
about .1% as much as u lol ... i read as much as u though.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:34:37
and i forget 0's
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:49:00
i get my full share of geek on in here.  i dont wanna over do it.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:51:41
damn. free is free.  you got me there.

 a site that uses forums to promote product placement as well as product development AND sells all the stuff is a good idea.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:55:12
This is how Ripster tries to get rid of forum trolls. So far its actually kinda worked.

MW (RIP)
Moogle Stiltzkin (RIP)
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:58:00
ya i see webwit is on there.  i think i will pass.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6o6G1ApDw

i guess there can be only one.  whatever the eff that means.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: chimborazo on Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:47:28
I truly enjoy seeing Ripster and kill will going at one another. I don't know whether it is the frustration from Ripster at times or the enthusiastic approach from Kill Will to prove a point. I don't know, I just find it refreshing.
If I'm not mistaken, kill will used to write lengthier posts though.
Keep it up.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Tue, 08 March 2011, 16:20:35
Quote from: kill will;307764
ripster i won this keyboard.  shill bidding does exist. ive made over 20k on ebay shill bidding cars.  there was only 1 of my kind of car for sale in the country at a specific time, just like there is only 1 ssk available per week.  i can make an ssk auction appear to sell at $500 if i wanted to.


Probably not the greatest idea to admit to shill bidding in the same post as you identify yourself as being a particular bidder.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:06:20
i am not making a large profit on any of my keyboard shill bidding.  i am probably break even or minus a few hundred. i just like to see how the price structure works on an expired us product with newly listed global demand.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:26:30
Quote from: kill will;308006
i am probably break even or minus a few hundred.


ibm m15?
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:30:36
you can read minds over the internet.  it is very easy. thats why i love online poker.  most people only use their right pointer to play.  i use like 4 different devices to play.

look at the bid history of this model m to see how i got it for the price i wanted with the second bidder bid approaching it as closely as i wanted.  i have no affiliation whatsoever with the second highest bidder.  i swear to god on that.

i paid that much because i only have 1 ssk right now and because i wanted to pay that much for this exact one.  so technically no shill bidding occurred on this auction. i bid like i play heads up 5 card no limit draw poker.  for fun.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:31:42
sam .. ya the ibm was minus about 320.  i made some on m13s and realforces though. no biggie.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:36:45
I could feel your pain from here on the M15.  I kept wondering what happened with that.  Guess the M15 buyers all maxed out their bank accounts on the previous big sales, causing the market for them to tank.  In that case there was a very limited number of them available, but appears shill bidding didn't help.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:39:37
Quote from: kill will;308024
i paid that much because i only have 1 ssk right now and because i wanted to pay that much for this exact one.  so technically no shill bidding occurred on this auction.


Unless the second highest bidder was a shill bidder and playing you...with you thinking you were reading his mind, when in fact he was reading yours. :)
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:39:49
no the timing was waaaaaaaay off .. people didnt have christmas funds. and my ad sucked.  i gave a good deal to a gh member.  

ripster ... this wont make sense to you, but if i did an initial bid of 250 then i would have won the auction at a much lower price.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:41:03
thats why i say heads up bidding wars is a tough game to decide if the seller is in on it. at $250 i can afford a loss for the information i gain.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Sam on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:44:29
Quote from: kill will;308036
my ad sucked.


Guess no more Christmas kitties in your ads then?  All the cat haters probably stayed away, not only due to being repulsed by seeing the cat in the ad, but for fear the inside of the keyboard was full of cat hair.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:44:39
no u cant live off poker winnings alone.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:49:37
either i got shill bid, or i correctly guessed the second highest bidders utility on the product.  either way if and when i sell my next ibm the price demand will be higher.  the same thing occurs in many markets, people dont realize it or are foreign to the concept.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 20:00:41
ripster to answer your question about how to bid $1 less than what the highest bidder will bid, you have to look at their history.

and if you guessed wrong you just sold yourself a keyboard lol
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 08 March 2011, 20:48:01
How shill-bidding ACTUALLY works:

"I'm gonna shill bid this item so the price goes up. Haha, suckers."
"Oh wait, I won the auction." :(

(http://seattle.theoffside.com/files/2010/11/fuuuuu.png)
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 21:00:01
ripster i bid on it.  how high i bid will depend on the condition of the weather. i doubt i will win it nor bid over 300 dollars.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Tue, 08 March 2011, 21:01:07
keyboard lover u are missing the point.  i didnt raise my hand and say 247. there was a second bidder willing to spend 2 dollars less than me. that is the interesting part. not me winning or not.
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: Tennobanzai on Fri, 11 March 2011, 16:13:58
Quote from: ripster;307766
Okey Dokey.  

Put your money where your mouth is and make this one go to $500. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=16013)

Noooo please don't! I want this for myself!
Title: IBM Space Saving Model M with "WorldStar" KeyCaps from ncbound10
Post by: kill will on Fri, 11 March 2011, 20:56:24
tennobanzai.  never show your cards unless someone shoots you.