price is great, but OOS. wtf
I thought it was pretty clear that this was the "pre-order" period. That means no stock, no shipping.... yet
I'm debating whether I should get regular or otaku browns. I can't tell how dependent I am of the labels...
nonetheless, I'm not sleeping Sunday until I get my keyboard pre-ordered. :)
It's this month's trendy thing. (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=303196&postcount=16)
That makes 6 for the brown otaku already. Hopefully there will be enough stock for all of us. Otherwise it'll come down to:Show Image(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu5/BAismyhero/f5.gif)
I feel like I'm asking about this a lot, but what's the deal with Leopolds?
It seems like Filco keyboards are generally regarded as decent, solid mechanical boards. However everyone seems to be going nuts over the Leopolds which, as far as I can understad, are pretty much the same, only with a different name and slightly different look.
Is this simply because everyone's already tried the Filco and it's too old to make a fuss about, or are the Leopolds superior in some way and more worth the money?
When I plan on spending about £270 on keyboards I'd like to know I'm making the right choice, so sorry if I'm being a bit slow on this.
Personally, I like my Archiss (identical to a Leopold) better then the many Filcos I've owned. But, you can chalk that up exclusively to the removable USB cable. Everything else (feel, quality, etc) is comparable AFAIC.
Will EK carry the fullsize Leo's?
Almost there... for some reason I keep refreshing the page over at EK anyway...
midnight PST is still 8 hours away..
Anyone else think that "March 7th" doesn't necessarily mean midnight of March 7th?
I'm excited I've been telling all my friends :D
Anybody know if EK is going to stock blank blue cherry Leopolds? There's just something about having no lettering on keys that turns me on.
Alright, my suspicions were correct then.
I'll just get the Filcos since I prefer their design, except for the lock lights, and they're easier to order.
Just have to wait for PayPal to confirm the new card...
Where are you easily ordering Filco boards?
Here (http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-alias=electronics&field-manufacturer=The%20Keyboard%20Company#/ref=sr_nr_p_n_availability_1?rh=n%3A172282%2Cp_15%3AThe+Keyboard+Company%2Cp_n_availability%3A1248801011&bbn=172282&ie=UTF8&qid=1299470994)?
Not terribly excited for a tenkeyless but decided to go for the otaku browns. Will probably get a full size blues in a year or two.
Now when are they actually coming in?
I just wanted to pre-order but...51$ just ehipping to europe (austria) must be a bad joke..rofl thats 150$ then + custom fees.. no thanks i will get the filco with blank key set for the same priceb.
I was very sad when I saw the ship "date"
Ordered a brown, I feel like a traitor. But the mushiness of clears is annoying me when I'm gaming and blues make too much noise. Besides, I needed another board with cherries to put the round 3 double shots on :p
All you otaku posers need to get the memo - you're only l33t enough to have a blank board if you wear through the printing on the keycaps yourself ;)
Damn that is tacky. Although once I transhipped a IBM Model M Industrial to Webwit from "Aunty Ripster" with Snoopy stickers on it and marked the Green form "Gift".
Just preordered my own browns board.
All you otaku posers need to get the memo - you're only l33t enough to have a blank board if you wear through the printing on the keycaps yourself ;)
What if you have double shot keys? :ohwell:
Hopefully soon since CC gets charged immediately.
Call me cynical, but I wonder if EK has even ordered the boards yet, or if our pre-orders are fronting the capital for that.
Just ordered Leopold browns. Better start coming up with excuses to buy a $100 keyboard.If someone wants to scold you about it, tell them it's a budget board vs. $300 varieties.
Same thought crossed my mind. Shipping at the "end of March" is pretty cryptic, and considering these were supposed to show up "Jan/Feb 2011" according to their previous estimates, I'm wondering if having my board by April 1st is gonna happen.
You can buy ALMOST 3 for one Realforce/HHKB.
Hmmmm.... maybe that backfired for Insurance purposes with Webwit's keyboard.
Chalk another Otaku up for me. :) Currently own a Rosewill RK-9000 and been wanting a tenkeyless with blank keys for a while now, but I didn't want to spend $250+ on a Happy Hacker or Real Force. Time to start searching for some blank red keycaps, I want to go for a checkerboard pattern of red + black keycaps. :D
The group buy threads are so intimidating. :x I have no idea whats going on in them, lol.
Anyone get a confirmation email from EK yet? I know it says wait 24 hours and check your spam before contacting support but I'm impatient =(
i got a paypal confirmation. does that count ? lol
i thought i did when i saw a email from EK...but it was their newsletter
Leopold for $99 or Das for $129? Which should I get for an intro to not only Cherry springs but Cherry Blue? I would spend the extra 30 clams if enough peopld thought it would be worth it for the Das.
I don't need a numpad. I like one but don't need one. I'm more for performance and yes you're right about Leos being better looking. Well, I suppose the switch will be the same in any board right? It's just about "packaging". By the way, are you getting a Leo?
The email from EK did "suggest" a future batch of kbs but I don't know if that means the same or different leo switches. Maybe Reds or dunno.
Leopold Tenkeyless Cherry MX Keyboards are finally available for Pre-Order at a GREAT introductory price!
It wasn't really a pre-order in the Amazon sense (i.e., order now, it'll ship on X date, pay when it ships). This was more of an order now, pay now, sit around and wait until it ships on a date TBD.
Call me cynical, but I wonder if EK has even ordered the boards yet, or if our pre-orders are fronting the capital for that.
Anyone get a confirmation email from EK yet? (
Also got my confirmation last night around 3am EST.
It wasn't really a pre-order in the Amazon sense (i.e., order now, it'll ship on X date, pay when it ships). This was more of an order now, pay now, sit around and wait until it ships on a date TBD.
What's the last time you pre ordered something and they didn't take your money first?
Uhhh... every time I've pre-ordered something from Amazon.
Does a Red esc key and a key puller come with the keyboard? The EK confirmation email says something about being allowed to separately ship items.
and guess what, EK isn't a multi-billion-dollar enterprise like Amazon, and Amazon never guarantees the actual shipment date, you can pre order diablo 3 right now ffs.
and guess what, EK isn't a multi-billion-dollar enterprise like Amazon, and Amazon never guarantees the actual shipment date, you can pre order diablo 3 right now ffs.
Being a small business does not make you exempt from agreements with credit card companies. Of the big 3 at least Mastercard does not allow the card to be charged before the product is shipped.
Many businesses will only charge your credit card when they are ready to ship. EliteKeyboards apparently charges immediately even though the shipment date is still at least three weeks away and isn't known precisely. It is an inconvenience no doubt, but only a minor one assuming boards actually ship when promised.
Again, most businesses do not use Paypal, EK does. I don't think Paypal allows such a behavior.
Any merchant with brains does an authorization hold at the time of the order being placed if they don't charge immediately. That immediately impacts the available balance but does not formally hit the card. That authorization hold is why it can be easy to overdraft a debit card when you go to a gas station - it typically tries to place an authorization hold of $50 or more. Once you have an actual amount, the actual charge goes through for the authorization hold amount or less.
Well, you did ask the question. I've preordered from other places that haven't charged me until the item ships (store.nisamerica.com is an example).
What's the last time you pre ordered something and they didn't take your money first?
Again, most businesses do not use Paypal, EK does.
You're the one who asked the ****ing question. You didn't specify that amazon or other major business was exempt from being an answer.
What part of the Mastercard Merchant agreement prevents charging stuff before shipping? It is a more common practice to do an authorization hold which merely falls off after a period of time if it is not turned into a formal charge (guaranteeing the availability of funds forgiving the account getting suspended, etc.), but can go to a formal charge if it ships. That's more common, but I don't know if it is explicitly against the rules to charge people before an item ships.
Also, Paypal is the payment facilitator and holds the payment in escrow - they charge the card, then fund the money to EK. If there's a dispute PayPal gets involved. So as a payment facilitator PayPal operates under different rules.
(if you have a dispute with Paypal, you can dispute with your credit card company...but if you have a dispute with the seller, and you just go to the card company, they'll freeze your paypal account)
Easy dude, there is no need to rage here, we are just buying some keyboards.
I think it's been established fairly well that no one is actually buying keyboards yet. We're paying for keyboards. We will have bought the keyboards when the vendor ships said keyboards.
I really couldn't care less whether the preorders are funding the initial order or not. Whatever he has to do to get rolling with the new 'boards is fine with me.
Rumors of EK's intent to defraud customers and use their money to pay for yet-to-be-ordered product are greatly exaggerated;)
There is capital in EK to buy keyboards and these boards were actually ordered last year.
The main reason for the pre-order now, for products not being shipped for a couple weeks, is in order to get an idea of the demand via solid commitments so that we can set our orders for the coming months ASAP. This way we can keep supply consistent while introducing product variations people actually want to buy. The only other way to do it is to ****foot it into the market (like we did at the very beginning) and buy 20 units one month, 50 the next, 100, and so forth. Thanks to all the customers that pre-ordered over the last two days, as well as customer suggestions, we can now plan ahead with confidence and prevent ourselves from slipping into long periods without stock or the products people demand.
Unfortunately, at this time we use the PayPal shopping cart which will charge you immediately, but you do have the option to send your order by e-mail or fax wherein we won't charge you until your order is ready to ship (don't send your CC by e-mail...only your phone so we can call you).
As for the delay...some of it was imposed by EK in order to make sure the product was going to be what we want for this market; also, some delays were caused by Chinese NY as well...which wasn't so much of a surprise to me as was the fact that from what I've been hearing, Chinese/Taiwanese businesses tend to treat it as a surprise themselves so that they can use it as an excuse to delay deadlines they're behind on. In any case, our factory inspection is next week and the boards will be prepared for shipping soon thereafter.
Thanks for your support!
Meanwhile at the Leopold Factory.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15974&stc=1&d=1299687372)
are the leopold tenkeyless boards better to get than the filco tenkeyless ones? If i do get one next month should i get cherry browns or blues? My first mech board, a 1988 ibm model is coming in tomm