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Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: jsvd on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:04:21
Hello, I'd like some advice:


I'm going to buy my first mechanical keyboard and from what I've been reading and from those youtube videos of ppl typing, I've narrowed my preferences to cherry mx brown and clear.

Between those two I think I'd like the heavier keys of the clear switches more. Also, I prefer us layout (a necessary feature) and tenkeyless (can be dropped if justified)

My budget lies within the 80-130€. I live in Portugal but I have the opportunity of shipping the keyboard to germany, if it makes it cheaper.

So the options are Cherry g80-3000 LQCEU-0 (cherry mx clear us layout), FILCO Majestouch FKBN87M*/EB (cherry mx brown us layout tenkeyless) or Leopold FC200RT/AB (cherry mx brown us layout tenkeyless).


Cherry G80-3000 - 64 € shipped  link (https://direkt.jacob-computer.de/Eingabeger%E4te_Tastaturen_Cherry_Classic_Line_G80-3000_-_Tastatur_-_PS-2%2C_USB_-_104_Tasten_-_Hellgrau_-_Englisch_-_US_%28G80-3000LQCEU-0%29_artnr_172735.html)
FILCO - 141 € shipped (through keyboardco) link (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=624)
Leopold - from what I understand, $99+$50 shipping = 107€ + customs (I'd guess around 130-140€) through EK link (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless&pid=fc200rtab)

So my question is, what is your opinion on FILCO/Leopold vs the Cherry G80? Is the superior quality build worth more than double the price of the G80?

Also, can anyone tell me if the G80 is plate mounted or PCB? From what I read in the wiki, PCB is better and allows for a quieter bottoming out, right?

Thanks!
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:09:42
Quote from: jsvd;305758

Also, can anyone tell me if the G80 is plate mounted or PCB? From what I read in the wiki, PCB is better and allows for a quieter bottoming out, right?

Thanks!


It's PCB-mounted. I prefer PCB-mounted because it's less noisy, but some folks prefer plate-mounted for a more heavy and solid feel. To each their own.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:48:07
Actually the noise is from the keystem hitting the switch and not the plate or the pcb.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:56:10
Quote from: RiGS;305804
Actually the noise is from the keystem hitting the switch and not the plate or the pcb.


Actually, the keystem hitting the switch causes a different amount of noise on a plate-mounted board than a PCB-mounted board, Mr. Smarty Pants. On plate-mounted boards, it makes a definitive metallic 'ping' sound.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: rustybarnacle on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:57:11
I thought Das Keyboard was plate mounted.  I am typing on it right now and i get no ping noise.  Are my ears just not...tuned enough?
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: noodles256 on Sat, 05 March 2011, 16:58:25
Quote from: keyboardlover;305811
Actually, the keystem hitting the switch causes a different amount of noise on a plate-mounted board than a PCB-mounted board, Mr. Smarty Pants. On plate-mounted boards, it makes a definitive metallic 'ping' sound.


+1, he has a key named after him
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:00:44
There are more things about a keyboard that contribute to noise level too (not to mention the entire construction); the case type, the key type, etc.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:01:12
There is no ping sound on my Steelseries. However I agree that the filco sounds like crap.
Why are you making everything personal?
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:02:21
Hmm...my experience is only with Filco so maybe it's just a Filco thing. For example, Realforces are plate-mounted but are VERY quiet.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:03:40
Quote from: noodles256;305815
+1, he has a key named after him


I don't think his ego needs more minions.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:04:57
Quote from: RiGS;305821
I don't think his ego needs more minions.


That's no ego...

...THIS is an ego!

(http://www.livethesheendream.com/images/sheen.jpg)

From: www.livethesheendream.com (http://www.livethesheendream.com)
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:05:11
I have also found that black switches sound different than browns and the mousepad absorbs the resonance quite well.
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:17:01
Quote from: noodles256;305815
+1, he has a key named after him


Thanks, bro.

Haters gonna hate.

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Can't believe I made this image 2,669 posts ago...
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: jsvd on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:17:19
Wow this thread is a trainwreck :D
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 March 2011, 17:18:07
Quote from: jsvd;305832
Wow this thread is a trainwreck :D


Welcome to GeekHack! :D
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: jsvd on Sat, 05 March 2011, 18:24:14
Any tips on the topic? :D
Title: FILCO / Leopold or Cherry G80-3000? [Europe]
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 05 March 2011, 18:42:07
Go for the cherry clears.
They are cheap and you can keep the switches for later mods.