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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Oqsy on Fri, 11 March 2011, 09:18:36
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My condolences to anyone who has lost friends or family. Insanely strong earthquake.
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Plenty of strong aftershocks too.
My little sister and brother in law are in Japan, but they're okay. They just don't have any electricity right now.
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I hope all will be well, alot of japans buildings are built with earthquakes in mind so it should be nowhere near as bad as the fallout in Haiti. The tsuname is another thing alltogethor tho
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One of my brothers lived in Sendai for over two years, I'm pleased that he lives closer to me now.
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Hmm, so they got issues at Nuclear Powerplant... Somewhat this is suprising for Japanese...
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Those are terrible news, the videos and images on TV are horrible.
I can't believe that the buildings didn't fall.
I hope the Tsunami would not affect America.
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Hmm, so they got issues at Nuclear Powerplant... Somewhat this is suprising for Japanese...
BIG issues.
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One of my brothers lived in Sendai for over two years.
I was in Sendai just last year visiting my wife's relatives. Thankfully they are all OK. They're all keeping in touch on mixi which (from what I can tell) is the equivalent of facebook for the Japanese.
Good to see Google's doing it's bit to help out too: http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/
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I just heard! Oh No!
I hope they can wrangle those other two plants and keep them from the same fate.
This really makes me wonder about the implementation of "closed" system backup infrastructures. What a horrible catastrophe on top of a tragedy.
I really hope things don't get worse and that people start receiving more aid soon.
=S
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Got some family in Okinawa, my cousin Masato is studying in Tokyo. Trying to get in touch with them, though chances are everyone is alright... for now. Hoping that the powerplant problems don't escalate, I don't like the prospect of radioactive wind over Asia.
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Definitely a terrible situation and tragedy. Through the GH Custom Keyboard project, I've become friendly (via email) with Carl at Archisite, Japan, who designed the Filco and Leopold keyboards. I emailed him the other day to wish him and everyone in Japan the best.
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Yeah i was really shocked when N-24 (news channel) said something about an explosion in the powerplant... damn, hope the japanese people make the best out of the situation they have now...
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Definitely a terrible situation and tragedy. Through the GH Custom Keyboard project, I've become friendly (via email) with Carl at Archisite, Japan, who designed the Filco and Leopold keyboards. I emailed him the other day to wish him and everyone in Japan the best.
I'm pretty sad right now...Carl's hometown was devastated and is unable to get in touch with relatives. I told him that everyone at GeekHack sends him their very best wishes.
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i would guess the impact was of the same magnitude of hurricane katrina ... tip tonic plate action
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Some people are just dumb as f***.
(http://media.riemurasia.net/ryhmat/media/1087/158.jpg)
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Some people are just dumb as f***.
That is just sad...
Hope they get things under control. Lot of issues going on...
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I'm pretty sad right now...Carl's hometown was devastated and is unable to get in touch with relatives. I told him that everyone at GeekHack sends him their very best wishes.
Indeed. I very much hope that the lack of contact is just a comms problem.
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soarer do you own a lexus ? because there is a lexus soarer. not in america though :(
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soarer do you own a lexus ? because there is a lexus soarer. not in america though :(
Yes, a turbo. Grey import from Japan.
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sweet ! i used to own a 2jz ge lexus sc300 ... it was too big for me though. i drive a 318ti now
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It's so sad that people laugh about such a disaster...can't understand what do they have with their minds but they have serious problems.
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Some people are just dumb as f***.
Idiots, nothing else to say.
If they deserved earthquake and tsunami for Pearl Harbor, what should America get for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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hurricane ryan?
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Those folks are about as dumb as it gets. People like that make Americans look bad.
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what do you expect those quotes are taken off cnn's comments from news stories. pretty sad that us here in the US share the same country with those mouth breathers
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I really can't believe people are saying that stuff, just because of pearl harbor. At this point I'd say everything from WWII is long in the past.
Both countries have been friendly and allies basically since then. Very strongly. I mean, for war purposes we're their main army. The SDF is just designed to hold off whoever is attacking until we can get there.
Anyway yeah, this is horrible.
I've heard some scientist say that this may not be the biggest one, he thinks that a bigger one is coming. Possibly for California.
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Anyone have the skinny on the nuke reactors? from what i've heard they're almost at meltdown trying to contain it. Can't Japan like get a Fedex team of the world's smartest and best nuke guys for like a week to contain the situation? NATO? UN?
I can certainly see how disgusting ppl are posting that stuff. When I used to live in virginia, i remembered 12-7, ever since my 2nd year there. Why? well ppl i worked with for a few months all of a sudden go, Lanx... your not Japanese are you? "i go no i'm chinese why?"... "no reason"
Same thing happens next year on the same day... I then quickly realize it's all about pearl harbor. The next year I get asked the same question, except this time i tell em "no, i'm chinese like my grandfather who fought during the rape of nanking, 4 years before pearl harbor"... and then I educate them a bit on nanking and i'm in the japanese hating club of virginia. (i didn't hate them really, i was just really interested in this whole hatred, so i figure i had to get in the circle somehow)
I'm not saying the south is that bad, just that, that's my experience there and the "level" of just outward hate.
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Thats the kind of vomit-inducing behaviour that gives countries a bad name - and I'm not just talking about Americans. I'm pretty sure the Japanese didn't say things after 9/11 like "Dear America, enjoy your exploded buildings - Sincerly Nagasaki and Hiroshima"
*edit* - That was a response to the Facebook **** on page 1.
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Anyone have the skinny on the nuke reactors? from what i've heard they're almost at meltdown trying to contain it. Can't Japan like get a Fedex team of the world's smartest and best nuke guys for like a week to contain the situation? NATO? UN?
I'm sure they're in regular contact with IAEA (another part of the much maligned UN). Of course it may well be that the world's smartest and best nuke guys are already working in Japan - along with France, they're a lot more active than most of us (the US has more reactors, but they're mostly old plants).
Without wanting to lessen the seriousness of the situation, I don't things are quite as bad there as it might seem. They're a long way from a situation anywhere near as serious as Three Mile Island; never mind Chernobyl. Apparently the reactor vessels are still intact (that huge explosion wasn't quite as serious as it looked - the reactor building is designed to blow out to reduce the chance of damage to the reactor vessel). They've still got cooling problems, and those take time to sort out, but to a certain extent they've got time.
I can certainly see how disgusting ppl are posting that stuff.
There's arseholes everywhere. But it does sometimes seem that American arsehole is particularly loud and obnoxious. That may be because in most places it takes a certain level of education to rant in English; whereas any dumb American arsehole can spew forth in their native language.
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In my experience, European *******s are no less loud and obnoxious, including the English.
I think people from abroad like to point fingers a lot at us and it's ****ing annoying.
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Some people are just dumb as f***.
I am seriously disgusted by those people, even with the awareness of the existent of amoral narcissitic brainless people like them, this still surprises me, so if they speak in name of god and justice, karma whatnot.. how are they gonna justify the casaulties in Vietnam! ...there is no end...
"Karma Hame HA" back at those peoples faces!
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091124231304/dragonball/images/b/bd/Gohan-blast.jpg)
Best wishes
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They're probably on the Karma Payment Plan.
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I think people from abroad like to point fingers a lot at us and it's ****ing annoying.
Yeah? Well I find it pretty ****ing annoying when people go out of their way to misinterpret what I said.
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You said pretty clearly that Americans are worse than others.
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Nope. Try again.
I did say that sometimes it seems that American arseholes are particularly loud and obnoxious; I went onto explain (in different words) that as we're writing in English, that loud, obnoxious, and ignorant arseholes from other parts of the world are at a disadvantage as they're less likely to write in English.
Perhaps what I said could be confused, but it definitely wasn't clearly anti-American.
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I don't see the word "sometimes" anywhere.
There's arseholes everywhere. But it does sometimes seem that American arsehole is particularly loud and obnoxious. That may be because in most places it takes a certain level of education to rant in English; whereas any dumb American arsehole can spew forth in their native language.
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I think it was, but what do I know. I'm an ignorant American.
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How about all the *****es, crybabies, and asshats exit this thread?
Thousands dead. Thousands more missing. Floods, fires, flattened buildings, landslides, tsunami, and the possibility of nuclear disasters (multiple sites).
Have some perspective.
There's no reason to repost that Facebook idiocy here. Yes, it's completely bat**** behavior, but bringing it here is just disrespectful, and has turned the thread, which
I intended to be a condolences and / or memorial thread into a "who's the biggest *******?" pissing-match.
Many members here have friends, family, coworkers, etc. in Japan, and I was hopeful that geekhack could handle the subject with class. I goofed.
Any more of this **** and I'll gladly report my own thread and ask that iMav delete it.
There's another Japan quake thread out there that's all about "but is my iPhone 5 gonna be late now?". I'm perfectly happy for that thread to get derailed.
Now, I've said my piece.
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Oqsy is right. I apologize for feeding the trolls.
Getting back on topic, if anyone is interested in helping the folks in Japan, here's a good source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help)
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I couldn't agree more with Oqsy.
I really hope things don't get worse. All the best wishes for all those in trouble.
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This video helps put things in perspective:
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lol if you think what those Americans on Facebook are saying is bad, imagine what the Chinese/Koreans/any other country that got screwed by Japan in WWII are saying. It's not just Americans who have trouble letting go of what Japan did. But how any of that relates to a natural disaster is beyond me.
Got in touch with my cousin, turns out he's on vacation in Morocco (which explains the delay in communication), so he's OK and so is the rest of his immediate family.
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Good to hear speakeasy. Lot of rescue stories coming in now, which provides some hope.
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I refrain myself of trolling over subject of Americans...
Still, this once again shows how nature can be devastating. I hope the best for all there.
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I refrain myself of trolling over subject of Americans...
I would ask "why?" but I don't want to bait the trolls anymore.
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I would ask "why?" but I don't want to bait the trolls anymore.
It is not the subject of this thread. Also, I want to show my "superiority" by not being like some examples posted here... Most people wouldn't just like it, at this time and on this matter.
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More information regarding how you can help Japan (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hnQ2ysZ8dDAV3IPXbBQNQnXaZLFA?docId=6694265f7abc4ef68fb7ac41f918b99b).
I urge everyone on GH to donate to Japan. There are over 2,462 active members on GeekHack. If we could donate anywhere from $50 - $200 each, that could reach nearly half a million $ in funds. But I urge you to donate whatever amount you are comfortable with.
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You can also donate directly to Japanese Red Cross Society (http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html). Easy transaction through google.
Praying from both Denmark and Vietnam
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Praying from both Denmark and Vietnam
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Good to see this thread get back on track.
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I'm really hoping that the situation at Fukushima power plant doesn't get any worse.
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I'm really hoping that the situation at Fukushima power plant doesn't get any worse.
You can say that again.
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Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.
KL is sending prayers from the USA.
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Nuclear radiation from Japan could reach US.
http://rt.com/usa/news/nuclear-radiation-japan-usa/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/nuclear-radiation-japan-usa/)
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The Finns are all running for iodine. Good thing I am Iodine.
Finns run for iodine after blasts at Japanese nuclear plant (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-finns-iodine-blasts-japanese-nuclear.html)
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Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.
KL is sending prayers from the USA.
Where did you read/hear about that?
The only information about Fukushima I can currently find is that the radiation levels have decreased.
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Earthquake was upgraded to a 9.0. Nuclear situation severity was upgraded from a 4 to a 6.
Chernobyl is listed at 7.
There was another level 6 quake today near Tokyo.
KL is sending prayers from the USA.
I read this yesterday too, but I can't find the article where I read it.
I had a suspicion that at the point when a reactor is flooded with sea water, that its not a good a sign. Apparently, sea water is a point of no return. The salts absorb neutrons and help to slow the fission reaction, on top of the cooling effect of the water. However, the corrosion that it causes on the fuel rods will make them unusable (unsafe) for power production. Therefore, the cores that are currently being cooled with sea water, are being cooled for dismantling. Hopefully they reach that stage safely.
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There's a report on CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/japan.nuclear/), but, despite it's title, the severity of 6 is not official.
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I think dismantling was a foregone conclusion days ago. A plant that has been compromised in so many ways doesn't stand a chance of going back online. Political ramifications are too great for "repairing" a nuclear power plant, safe or not. I certainly wouldn't sit idly by and watch them put Daichi back online if it were in my neighborhood.
The human toll is still unimaginable. I hope the aftershocks subside immediately.
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You're right, its not official yet. I had read that on the Wikipedia page for the UN nuclear safety index but it was removed shortly thereafter.
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And the Japanese have no incentive to quickly raise it.
They have no choice, you can't hide radiation.
edit: Having read the descriptions of the severity levels, level 5 seems bad enough. I think it could still be classed a level 5 even if it's somewhat worse than we already know.
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FUKUSHIMA, Japan – Surging radiation levels forced Japan to order emergency workers to temporarily withdraw from its crippled nuclear plant Wednesday, losing time in a desperate operation to cool the overheating reactors — the most urgent crisis from last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami.
The technicians were dousing the nuclear reactors with seawater in a frantic effort to cool them when they had to retreat in the late morning. The plant's operator ordered the technicians back to the site in the evening after radiation levels subsided.
In the hours in between, it was not clear what if any operations continued. Officials gave only sparse information about reactors.
But conditions at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant appeared to be worsening. White steam-like clouds drifted up from one reactor which, the government said, likely emitted the burst of radiation that led to the workers' withdrawal. The plant's operator reported a fire at another reactor for the second time in two days.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110316/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake;_ylt=AuNq356r6rTxJVadMTCo3Rlv24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3YzUxZnQ5BHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl9icmVha2luZ19uZXdzBHNsawNicmVha2luZw--
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so sad, but the most terrible thing is the nuclear disaster.
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don't forget the animals
this was so sad to watch
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/dog-in-japan-stays-by-the-side-of-its-ailing-friend-in-the-rubble (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/dog-in-japan-stays-by-the-side-of-its-ailing-friend-in-the-rubble)
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Sigh. I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami. Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan. Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it. How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap? Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US? Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power? Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo? I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...
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Sigh. I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami. Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan. Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it. How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap? Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US? Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power? Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo? I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...
exodus of Tokyo (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article3470486.ece)
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Sigh. I was temporarily relieved to hear that my Dad and his wife both were okay after the news of the quake and tsunami. Now I am concerned for the radiation, but the only thing I find when I search is mostly concern about it tainting everywhere else BUT Japan. Funny how the focus of concern suddenly shifted from the situation there to the home turf of whatever news agency was reporting about it. How much distance is it to Tokyo from this nuclear crap? Should I be urging my Dad to come back to the US? Are they in imminent danger from serious radiation problems or is the bigger problem in Tokyo the lack of power? Seems like if people in canada and out at sea are taking iod/pot pills, shouldn't they be doing that in Tokyo? I am far more worried about Dad there than myself in Cali at this point...
It depends on the wind at the time if it is a serious meltdown IE : Chernobyl which I think at this point isn't really possible because the explosion would have to be pretty large to get the paricles high enough in the atmosphere
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exodus of Tokyo (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article3470486.ece)
This is not quite helpful as it is 'news', not actual information. Yet, this is the precise reason I am having difficulty finding real information as opposed to news reports since everything I click on is either about the reaction to the situation or so scientific as to be useless to me since I can't understand it. I would like to find something written in reasonably plain English from a person of science rather than one of the media which has a tendency to flavor everything with as much sensationalism and emotion as possible as opposed to an objective and detached assessment of what the real situation would be. For example a comparison to dropping a nuclear warhead on that spot - from what I could glean, there is some difference in the nature of the result, but I have no idea what that means.
Ideally, I'd like a scale diagram of Japan and an overlay of the point of impact of the bombs that were dropped and the radius of associated damaging effect and the same thing done showing the plant and what those effects would be. I don't care what people are actually doing or what they fear or what they say or whether the situation is actually under control or not - I just wanna know what if the reactors all go to hell, exactly what are we talking about in terms of acute radiation exposure and "minimum safe distance" (as much as that may not really exist for all practical purposes)
It depends on the wind at the time if it is a serious meltdown IE : Chernobyl which I think at this point isn't really possible because the explosion would have to be pretty large to get the paricles high enough in the atmosphere
This is more what I am looking for, thanks.
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That was PRICELESS! "Ask and you shall receive..."
Thank you.
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these stories are just tearing at your heart
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/955222--the-star-in-japan-hideaki-akaiwa-must-keep-looking?bn=1
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^this one is pretty amazing as well
http://bcove.me/w2nmxda4
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Gilbert Godfrey got fired by aflak for the comment he made about the earthquake and tsunami
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Glenn Beck is a fake traitor, Alex Jones is a patriot.
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The only surviving cherynobl cleanup worker survivor person said "run away" don't stay there to clean up, don't live near there just run away. I forgot where i read her comment and then relating her story to cherynobl, i'll try to find it.
found it
http://stephengyllenhaal.net/chernobyl-cleanup-survivors-message-for-japan-run-away-as-quickly-as-possible/
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The Nuclear situation is now officially at level 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Event_Scale). Japan also just had another earthquake, at magnitude 6.4.