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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 25 March 2011, 00:57:45

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 25 March 2011, 00:57:45

I've recently picked up a G80-8113, and the "deep dish" F and J keys are surprisingly nice. The high side walls on the left and right edges of the keys seem to cradle your finger, so there's no doubt that you're centered on the key. Are there any key cap sets similar to these for the entire board? Spherical caps maybe?

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Ascaii on Fri, 25 March 2011, 01:45:56

I have a set of vintage-y doubleshot numpad keys I took off of an old POS board. I'll try to remember to make some pics later.

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: What is X? on Fri, 25 March 2011, 02:21:37

looking at the shape of my fingertips i can't help thinking spherical keycaps would be the best, but i don't think they look as good as cylindrical/sculpted keycaps.

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sat, 26 March 2011, 18:47:10

The spherical keys do look pretty old school, but if they feel as nice as these keys then I'm going old school. :wink: Pictures would be great if you have time.

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Ascaii on Sun, 27 March 2011, 02:47:46

(http://usera.ImageCave.com/ascaii/blueposkeys.jpg)

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 27 March 2011, 16:57:41

Thanks for the pics. I would be interested in trying some of those. Who do we know who's good at pestering?

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 27 March 2011, 16:58:48

*looks around*

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 27 March 2011, 17:05:38

When did they say the couldn't do double shot shericals? The data sheets on their website list both the DSA (http://www.solutionsinplastic.com/pdfs/DSAFamily.pdf) Medium Profile, Spherical Touch Area, non-Sculptured Layout and the SA (http://www.solutionsinplastic.com/pdfs/SAFamily.pdf) High Profile, Spherical Touch Area, Sculptured Layout families as being available in two shot molding. The 86 Medium Profile, Spherical Touch Area, non-Sculptured Layout key family is unknown, they didn't post a data sheet on them.

Someone over there didn't read the manual! :lol:

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 27 March 2011, 17:13:19

I vote for NO MORE keycap group buys. Seriously, I don't have enough keyboards for all these keys and my wallet's hurtin'!

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Hak Foo on Sun, 27 March 2011, 20:44:07

I thought it was more they presented a hand-waving answer along the lines of 'we COULD do them if you backed up a dumptruck full of fresh $50 notes, but..."

Personally, I'd rather have sphericals than cylindricals; it might justify me giving the G80 one more keycap change.

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: bpiphany on Mon, 28 March 2011, 04:25:13

Quote from: ripster;319537

I still think someone should badger Signature Plastics a bit more about why they couldn't do some doubleshot sphericals.

They clearly have the tooling.  The Orange and Panic keys used to have Cherry MX stems.

Freshly shot by SP, I guess there was some kind of misunderstanding in the communications. They were unable to do 2.25 and 2.75 width DSA double shots though. It seems they don't even have the molds to do those widths in ABS plastic at all. Apparently they need different molds for ABS and PBT due to different material characteristics. The ABS keys come out just a tad too wide when molded in dies meant for PBT.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/34y5z52.jpg)

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: Peter on Mon, 28 March 2011, 04:52:57

WOW ... Nordic-language Selectric-style doubleshots, Me wants !!
Any chance of a photo of the backside of a cap ?
(cool layout btw....)

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Post by: Brodie337 on Mon, 28 March 2011, 05:10:22

Quote from: PrinsValium;319951

Freshly shot by SP, I guess there was some kind of misunderstanding in the communications. They were unable to do 2.25 and 2.75 width DSA double shots though. It seems they don't even have the molds to do those widths in ABS plastic at all. Apparently they need different molds for ABS and PBT due to different material characteristics. The ABS keys come out just a tad too wide when molded in dies meant for PBT.

Show Image

(http://i52.tinypic.com/34y5z52.jpg)

What in God's name is that thing?

Title: "Deep dish" keys.
Post by: bpiphany on Mon, 28 March 2011, 14:43:25

Quote from: Peter;319957

WOW ... Nordic-language Selectric-style doubleshots, Me wants !!
Any chance of a photo of the backside of a cap ?
(cool layout btw....)

You can probably have some too. I don't know if my price quote ended up very favorously, but they were not obscenely expensive at least. Pop off a quote to SP (http://keycapsdirect.com/contact.php) yourself. wider keys are more expensive to get in small amounts. I can offer blank ones (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=309924&postcount=6) for the price I paid (~$2.50 each).

Quote from: Brodie337;319958

What in God's name is that thing?

He got it wrong, I am trying to improve (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:15542) upon it =D