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Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: bkforyou on Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:34:44

What's the difference between the two? Visually, the look pretty identical.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:39:59

The PCB is different. The new FR4 pcb is more resistant to heat.
Also the leds are not that bright, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

(http://i.imgur.com/uOeHfl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Qfzhcl.jpg)

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: Armando Penblade on Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:42:05

New PCB (circuit board) that's perhaps more reliable and/or better able to absorb the impacts of keys, making the keyboard quieter.

If memory serves at least.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:44:03

I hope you don't believe that ****!

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: HaveANiceDay on Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:50:22

It's all voodoo unless proven otherwise.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: canon.tk on Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:03:22

As far as the end user is concerned they are pretty much the same.  The LEDs aren't as bright and the key caps are the same.  

Unless you plan on taking it apart I don't think you'll notice anything beyond that.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: woody on Thu, 31 March 2011, 17:32:29

The PCB talk is hilarious.

Quote from: ripster;322270

I saw something odd in the NKRO testing but need to do some comparisons with the Gen1s on that.

Still Holtek? Can you see somewhere USB vendor/product id?

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: woody on Thu, 31 March 2011, 18:05:37

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: woody on Thu, 31 March 2011, 18:14:13

Too lazy to open mine, but seems like a bog standard hobby-friendly 0.1" headers.
Can't get any better for modders.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: woody on Thu, 31 March 2011, 18:25:10

Quote from: ripster;322320

Do not disassemble your personal computer......

That was on tablet #3.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 31 March 2011, 18:56:19

Filco/Leopold/Ducky/Steelseries... are all made in Taiwan.

Title: Filco vs. Filco 2?
Post by: canon.tk on Thu, 31 March 2011, 19:14:38

Quote from: ripster;322270

Lol - pics of a Steelseries PCB.  Now THAT'S relevant to the discussion at hand.

The Red LEDs aren't that bright but since I never had a Gen 1 Red LED keyboard I can't confirm that one.

The big difference is if I own it then it is better than yours.  I saw something odd in the NKRO testing but need to do some comparisons with the Gen1s on that.

I have a gen 1 and gen 2 with red LEDs.  They are much dimmer.  The gen 1 board is so bright it looks like the light is dying out on the gen 2 comparatively.