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Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:01:02
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_332d3e9a_DCS_9165.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_e941523e_DCS_9173.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_dc1261f1_DCS_9185.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_5c2f5ee6_DCS_9186.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_da66691d_DCS_9190.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_37aa9d47_DCS_9193.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_52b8a089_DCS_9196.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_3f2f2ecc_DCS_9212.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/Aquacompany/2105777600_adeec5da_DCS_9906.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/Aquacompany/2105777600_43e79728_DCS_9930.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/Aquacompany/2105777600_c05a8165_DCS_9933.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/Aquacompany/2105777600_0669c21f_DCS_9911.jpg)
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/Aquacompany/2105777600_f2c23c24_DCS_9927.jpg)

 - CNC Machining Full Metal housing

 - sanding, luxurious finish of anodized

 - Nkey rollover (infinite) unique in the world .. Full-n-key-rollover

   (existing on the planet has the fastest input timing.)

 - freedom of the array through the firmware
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:19:32
Welcome to Geekhack!
Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Any chance you a have side view picture?

Btw, I wish it had costar stabilizers.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: British on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:32:50
It could probably use better/real rubber feet, as this keyboard seems kinda "slippery".

Metal is always nice, though.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrJlfHyMf0eoNFADTH3BhrIfEf1PCg8tN0HjBXC6Y51IcbBCGi)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: British on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:36:13
Quote from: British;331256
It could probably use better/real rubber feet, as this keyboard seems kinda "slippery".

Well, "bigger" feet actually.
Large feet like Leopold's make me feel safer.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: xis on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:37:28
looks like an awesome keyboard, especially with the custom firmware, although i wish you didnt have to do all the soldering yourself :(
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:38:36
That thing is really nice!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:40:02
Could you tell us the price?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:48:36
$275 and more(Ps/2 or USB cable,Assembly Labor)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:52:24
Does the price include the Cherry corp doubleshots?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 06:53:24
Quote from: xis;331261
looks like an awesome keyboard, especially with the custom firmware, although i wish you didnt have to do all the soldering yourself :(


It seems there is an option to assemble it yourself.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:00:50
hopefully one day GH can build one of these
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:05:02
this is prototype..

(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/1988307998_b534af23_Untitled-1.jpg)

final type : $275 price ...keycap and cherry switch include
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:09:13
How much does this keyboard weight?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: mtl on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:14:26
Looks great! What are the switches near the space bar for? Does it come with both red and black case tops?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: vun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:15:02
Quote from: mtl;331284
Looks great! What are the switches near the space bar for? Does it come with both red and black case tops? How does it achieve full NKRO over USB? Will it require OS driver support?


I believe the extra switches around the spacebar switch are stabilizers.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:17:44
Those are stabilizers not switches. It's sad that those are the cherry type ones.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:36:44
USB and PS/2 combo select switch, case : chose only one.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:44:06
Very cool keyboard! Start a group buy :p
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:55:29
KL likes!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:58:46
I prefer the inclined case design of the TypeNow Solid.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 07:59:52
I prefer the <$400 price tag on this one.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:09:43
The cheats is 275$+assembly+shipping.
TypeNow Solid is 400$ including shipping directly from the manufacturer.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: reaper on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:17:20
Like they said over at OCN, welcome to yesteryear (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12656). lol =D

Nice keyboard though.  I'd buy that in an instant providing it isn't too expensive.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:38:20
Quote from: RiGS;331307
The cheats is 275$+assembly+shipping.
TypeNow Solid is 400$ including shipping directly from the manufacturer.

Thanks, I can read if you haven't noticed.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: xis on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:49:53
Quote from: dongkun;331267
$275 and more(Ps/2 or USB cable,Assembly Labor)


much better than the typenow
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:54:38
Quote from: reaper~;331310
Like they said over at OCN, welcome to yesteryear (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12656). lol =D

Nice keyboard though.  I'd buy that in an instant providing it isn't too expensive.


Come on, let me know thanks. But last year was the state of development.
 13 / April / 2011 This project was completed within the current stages.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:58:52
blah blah,  BLAH
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: reaper on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:02:56
Quote from: dongkun;331325
Come on, let me know thanks. But last year was the state of development.
 13 / April / 2011 This project was completed within the current stages.


Oh ok.  I didn't know.  Thanks for letting us know and when can we expect the final product so some of us that are interested can then purchase.  Thanks! =)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: dongkun on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:15:07
Quote from: vun;331285
I believe the extra switches around the spacebar switch are stabilizers.


This is a product of which limited members. About 500 orders have been created all over.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:16:43
@dongkun - if we start a group buy and order ~50 of these, will the price be cheaper per unit?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:40:44
I wish this guy was a bit easier to understand, I cant figure out if he is saying it was pre-ordered last year and just now finished or if they are available going forward.  I understand that only 500 were produced but I dont understand the rest of what hes saying.

.XL  - I doubt we could get that many people to buy one, probly wouldnt even be anywhere near that number.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: reaper on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:44:35
Judging from his last post below, it's supposed to be very limited and that only 500 will be made and perhaps they're all spoken for which means we're out of luck.

I hope that isn't the case though.  Like I said before, I'd buy that in an instant if it isn't $400. lol


Quote from: dongkun;331335
This is a product of which limited members. About 500 orders have been created all over.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:45:47
Quote from: reaper~;331355
Judging from his last post below, it's supposed to be very limited and that only 500 will be made and perhaps they're all spoken for which means we're out of luck.

I hope that isn't the case though.  Like I said before, I'd buy that in an instant if it isn't $400. lol

Yup, same I will put up the money right now if we could get some better comunication.  I guess these will be on ebay eventually or something
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 09:55:48
I have always thought that my English sucks.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 10:15:06
Quote from: RiGS;331362
I have always thought that my English sucks.


Your english isnt bad at all.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 10:32:47
Thanks! Geekhack is my first English forum.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 10:41:25
Quote
a filco is 2 kg

lolwut?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: sixty on Fri, 15 April 2011, 10:45:54
This is not a mass produced keyboard. Its designed and assembled by a single group of people. What was being "ordered" were parts which caused the delay in production. The PCB just finished production earlier this month and the keyboard will be released soon now.

The sales for this one were booked in advanced using the groupbuy system on OTD.kr. So, a group buy should not be possible. AQUA had announced that a foreign sale would probably be happening in 2012 or something. These will likely happen through eBay. To my knowledge the board is currently limited to 150 pieces, with another wave of 100 following later.

To answer some more questions from this thread:

1) The keyboard does not come with Cherry Corp keycaps, they were just used on the prototype. You are supposed to use "SoRaWeRe" keycaps with this. (Sora WYSE Replicia)

2) It uses Cherry stabilizers because they are generally the preferred type in the east
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 11:02:41
Thanks for the clarification!

Quote
2) It uses Cherry stabilizers because they are generally the preferred type in the east


It seems Diatec/Plu doesn't belong to the east.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 11:27:17
Quote
Imperial is my first language.


Have you just suggested that you speak non-imperial languages as well?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:56:39
Quote from: sixty;331393
This is not a mass produced keyboard. Its designed and assembled by a single group of people. What was being "ordered" were parts which caused the delay in production. The PCB just finished production earlier this month and the keyboard will be released soon now.

The sales for this one were booked in advanced using the groupbuy system on OTD.kr. So, a group buy should not be possible. AQUA had announced that a foreign sale would probably be happening in 2012 or something. These will likely happen through eBay. To my knowledge the board is currently limited to 150 pieces, with another wave of 100 following later.

To answer some more questions from this thread:

1) The keyboard does not come with Cherry Corp keycaps, they were just used on the prototype. You are supposed to use "SoRaWeRe" keycaps with this. (Sora WYSE Replicia)

2) It uses Cherry stabilizers because they are generally the preferred type in the east


Bah, I always miss out on the really unique stuff! would love to get my hands on one of these.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: zaerst on Fri, 15 April 2011, 12:57:36
Booo! Wanted one of these.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:06:52
Buy it directly from their company. That way you can save on the shipping.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:27:04
It would be cheaper to make the aluminum casing and put in on your filcos :p
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 13:40:22
Quote from: .XL;331522
It would be cheaper to make the aluminum casing and put in on your filcos :p


I doubt this.

Im not interested in the other one.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:57:54
Quote from: dongkun;331249
Show Image
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_da66691d_DCS_9190.jpg)


I've got some of that stuff under my doormats, keeps them from sliding around. Interesting use there.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:02:28
LOL, I was considering cutting my worn Roccat Taito mousemat.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:03:08
Quote from: Lpb45;331530
I doubt this.

Im not interested in the other one.


I just so happen to have a perfect-sized block of aluminum and some hand tools. I need a hobby to keep me busy ;)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:10:49
It's a better idea than the super heavy, but useless brass plate which supposed to minimize the sound resonance.

(http://i.imgur.com/tZEyC.jpg)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Khaotik55 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:20:33
It's always a plus to be able to rip the keyboard out of your PC and beat the living **** out of an intruder leaving only minimal damage to the device(missing keycaps).

This is all under the assumption that you cannot reach your 1911.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:24:31
Quote from: ripster;331657
Can someone summarize the differences between "The Cheats" and the "TypeNow"?  Is it just one is a kit?

English please.


The case of the "TypeNow" is lot nicer, and more refined, and has an elevated construction.

Also the feet are removable.

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/best_article/2442191 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/best_article/2442191)
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/1739458 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/1739458)

However "The Cheats" has a customizable firmware.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: sixty on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:26:41
Quote from: RiGS;331684
The case of the "TypeNow" is lot nicer, and more refined, and has an elevated construction.

Also the feet are removable.

http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/best_article/2442191 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/best_article/2442191)
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/1739458 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/1739458)

However "The Cheats" has a customizable firmware.


Actually its about the entire opposite. CMA (Copy my Ass aka the Cheat) is a hand-worked case with little to no flaws, while the TypeNowSolid is a mass produced unit with rough "scratches" even on the first batch of picitures.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:27:16
I will gonna buy the TypeNow.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: sixty on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:39:19
I think both are very nice keyboards, though I would pick the CMA any day. Programmable and I prefer the colors. Not to mention the price is much lower too.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: calavera on Fri, 15 April 2011, 22:05:42
Alright, I'll chime in.

The Typenow is a custom keyboard created by Kant from KBDMania forums which is affiliated or owned by IOmania as well. So the IOmania TypeNow keyboard is their first in house custom keyboard. You could say that the Ddokyu keyboard is the root of all these custom keyboards which was the top dog of custom keyboards (still highly sought after and rare I might add.)

The Cheats is a custom keyboard created by users on OTD forums as you may all know. It was a custom kit group buy deal.

Both keyboards are created separately and are not related to each other in any way as far as I know. I will say this though, there was a break out awhile ago between KBDmania and OTD regarding group buys and such and resulted in a whole mess.

I might offer my help for translating all the stuff properly once I get in contact with Kant, but I won't have time until end of next week. It pains me to see a horrible translation influencing the image of such a high quality keyboard. :P
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 22:34:50
Is the typenow solid the reason for the mess your talking about?  I read that part of the reason OTD is so shy with information is they had some designs and whatnot stolen or copied?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: zaerst on Fri, 15 April 2011, 22:37:26
Wish we had someone with enough skill/drive to get a custom keyboard going.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 22:49:04
Quote from: zaerst;331939
Wish we had someone with enough skill/drive to get a custom keyboard going.


This may be where aming and I take the next group buy if we can get enough interest...

But there will need to be some serious discussion first.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 22:49:51
Quote from: zaerst;331939
Wish we had someone with enough skill/drive to get a custom keyboard going.


People have tried, the main problem is all the bickering that usually starts in the thread afterwords and then the person who is trying to get it going just gives up.  The other problm is the complexity of doing a keyboard like this, you have to source a ridiculous amount of stuff (PCB, Controller, keys, stabilizers, design, milling).  The best way to go about something like this in my opinion would be to get about 50 dedicated people who agree on what they want and who will be in it until the board is finished even if it takes a year and dont mind spending the extra coin.  I just dont think thats going to happen although I would be up for it.

The way I see it, the only option at this point for a board like this for me is the typenow solid which im really not a fan of =( as getting one of the 356 boards or even one of these "the cheats" just doesnt seem plausible.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 23:11:41
I disagree. The problem is the capital needed up front (typically $5,000+) to fund the damn thing!

I was working with the Leopold designer before trying to make a tenkeyless rebranded Leopold with clears for the GH community. I decided against doing it in the end, but if anyone is interested to take something like that on, I can put you in touch with Archisite. Just let me know. Like I said though, you're probably looking at spending about $5k up front for production.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 23:26:39
KL, Im not talking about a rebranded leo or filco.  I want something completely custom.  And the upfront capitol would come from the 50 or so dedicated people who would be in it to win it lol, everyone puts in 100$ to start blah blah something like that.  It was just an opinion and I even stated that it probly wouldnt work eithor.  A rebranded board isnt easy to do eithor but one of these completely custom boards is just a whole nother animal.

You should come on IRC and chat with me, Im on now
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 15 April 2011, 23:47:54
If you'd like, PM me tomorrow and we can do the same. Right now I need sleepy time! =)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Mon, 18 April 2011, 00:38:54
What is happening ?
All comments of mine (and others for 2 days) in this thread are gone ?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Mon, 18 April 2011, 01:08:26
Thanks
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Chobopants on Mon, 18 April 2011, 01:34:30
If I have the option of blue/clear/black/red switches and it doesn't have Cherry stablizers I am SO in. I'll even put in some extra $$ to fund it if needed. PM me if this is happening.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Mon, 18 April 2011, 10:26:51
Quote from: Chobopants;332582
If I have the option of blue/clear/black/red switches and it doesn't have Cherry stablizers I am SO in. I'll even put in some extra $$ to fund it if needed. PM me if this is happening.

 
Nothing is happening, the CMA "The Cheats" keyboard was just posted here as showing us the new Korean custom they are doing which we have no chance at acquiring until they put it on Ebay which may happen later this year (Cant stress MIGHT enough).  Typenow Solid is the only option available to us and it is very overpriced, Hamblet posted some pics that were deleted and it is pretty much a Leopold(Same PCB, Controller, Stabilizers, Keys)  with a nice aluminum body.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 18 April 2011, 10:56:02
Interestingly the stabilized keys on my SS neither feel stiff nor squeaky. The rattly feel is the only thing I don't like about them.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Mon, 18 April 2011, 14:21:53
Quote from: ripster;332766
.. Hamblet called them "Wyse Stabilizers" for some weird reason..


I do not have any wEiRd reason. It is a simple logical conclusion from experience.

Have you ever seen any Cherry original MX_switched keyboard which has Cherry's "with Frame Stabil" ?  In my experience, No No No.

If you have any WYSE keyboard, chek it out. All WYSE that I have ever seen have that "with Frame Stabil". So I have no choice, I called it as "WYSE Stabil".

And, from local Leopold's Ads and Kant who is selling TypoNowSolid confirmed somewherelse that "that Stabil" is imported from Cherry Germany.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Mon, 18 April 2011, 14:31:50
What are you talking about ? WYSE stabil is not an another version. You told me and I confirmed, it has Cherry's part number. It is one of a Cherry's parts.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Pylon on Mon, 18 April 2011, 14:50:51
Quote from: Khaotik55;331678
It's always a plus to be able to rip the keyboard out of your PC and beat the living **** out of an intruder leaving only minimal damage to the device(missing keycaps).

This is all under the assumption that you cannot reach your 1911.

 
Time to get out the SmarTrex. (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:8438)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 10:06:53
Quote from: ripster;332573
Forum Software Update.

Nothing personal.


Is that finished ?

I do not know what is updated or not. But, what I clearly know is that all the comments of mine are gone forever. Therefore, at least, for me, it looks like a censorship. Censorship is very interesting issue but feels boring at the same time.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 10:14:40
Could you repost the kbdmania link?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 10:22:06
Quote from: RiGS;334161
Could you repost the kbdmania link?


Yes, that is not difficult at all.

1st Review SIMBA of KBDMania
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/2442191

2nd Review SIMBA of KBDMania
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/2479951

Because of censorship I lost all my mirth.

Tow of reviews have nothing special.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 10:37:18
I meant the second one. Thanks.
The one that has nice pics on the Alu case and the PCB.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 10:42:15
It seems they have the blank PBT keycaps optionally.

(http://www.iomania.net/images/shop/iomania/typenow_solid_m.jpg)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 12:29:37
The new key choices are atleast a little better.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 13:14:54
Quote from: ripster;334257
I didn't understand any of it.  I Hangul my Head in shame.

 


Do not worry about it Ripster. They have English version for you. You know that, it is on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3f08b8a2c0&item=270729257664&nma=true&pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&rt=nc&si=F5QEZE8zbE%252FI55NXU2gLCg7q%252F%252FQ%253D


- I call this keyboard as TypoNowSolid. If you see their AD in English above mentioned link, you do not need any more explanation about it.

- Actually, thier AD in their own mother****ng mother tongue is way worse than English version. It is a horrible horrible garbage.

- But, there are more to come. It is a real shame for real. An ugly local keyboard forum OhTheDirity announced a board called "The Cheat". But, I think TypoNowSolid is the keyboard that should be titled under that name. Because, TypoNowSolid is cheating their customers. They said it will be a "Flagship keyboard" but,I saw "Frog**** keyboard" here. TypoNowSolid's PCB is identical twins to Leopold FC 200RT. In my opinion, FC 200RT is not a top class keyboard. It is a plain board. Actually, it has a low calss cheap phenolic resins in it. Funny. All you can have is just a nice CNC cut alu-casing. Nothing else. Yes, the casing itself is worthwhile for spend that big money. Good choice, because there will be no more alu-casing boards any more.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: DarthBaiter on Wed, 20 April 2011, 14:24:33
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/2105777654_332d3e9a_DCS_9165.jpg)
Very nice...does it come with the l337 Filco tiewrap? :D
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: litster on Wed, 20 April 2011, 14:45:22
Hey, that auction ended.  Someone from here bought it?

"Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?"

(http://i28.tinypic.com/dz9sti.jpg)

Don't freak out, me Chinese.  OK talk like this.  You go now.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 15:56:53
Quote
Hey, that auction ended. Someone from here bought it?

I think it has been expired.

Quote
RiGS and PandaR are thinking of buying it and will hopefully do a review.

If I buy it, I will definitely do a review on it. However those cherry stabilizers and the price tag are still holding me back.
This keyboard is basically a tenkeyless version of my SS in a metal case, which is made by Datacomp as well.
I positively like the case design of the TypeNow Solid.
However even the plastic case of the cheap Steelseries withstood (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/photo_video_awesome_17_can_steelseries_keyboard_withstand_truck_squashing#slide-1) a truck abuse, and as sixty pointed out the aluminium case easily scratches.

(http://www.maximumpc.com/files/imagecache/futureus_imagegallery_fullsize/gallery/keyboard_crush-8716_0.jpg)

I think it is not worth having a nicely carved, but cold and extra heavy metal case, especially for a portable tenkeyless keyboard.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 18:09:40
http://cgi.ebay.com/TypeNow-Solid-Full-Metal-body-mechanical-keyboard-/270733120143?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f08f3928f

There is still one up, I am still considering buying one aswell.  What other chance will we have at a full alluminum housing keyboard?  I just cant see the koreans putting any of those cheats on Ebay as I would buy one of those without thinking twice as you can just tell that they were made by people who love keyboards and not by people who love money.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 18:11:07
Quote from: Hamblet;334276
Do not worry about it Ripster. They have English version for you. You know that, it is on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3f08b8a2c0&item=270729257664&nma=true&pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&rt=nc&si=F5QEZE8zbE%252FI55NXU2gLCg7q%252F%252FQ%253D


- I call this keyboard as TypoNowSolid. If you see their AD in English above mentioned link, you do not need any more explanation about it.

- Actually, thier AD in their own mother****ng mother tongue is way worse than English version. It is a horrible horrible garbage.

- But, there are more to come. It is a real shame for real. An ugly local keyboard forum OhTheDirity announced a board called "The Cheat". But, I think TypoNowSolid is the keyboard that should be titled under that name. Because, TypoNowSolid is cheating their customers. They said it will be a "Flagship keyboard" but,I saw "Frog**** keyboard" here. TypoNowSolid's PCB is identical twins to Leopold FC 200RT. In my opinion, FC 200RT is not a top class keyboard. It is a plain board. Actually, it has a low calss cheap phenolic resins in it. Funny. All you can have is just a nice CNC cut alu-casing. Nothing else. Yes, the casing itself is worthwhile for spend that big money. Good choice, because there will be no more alu-casing boards any more.

Hamblet,

Go find me someone to buy "the cheats" from in Korea, I will pay you $100 USD finder fee!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 18:22:29
Quote from: Lpb45;334492

...Go find me someone to buy "the cheats" from in Korea...

Sorry, I am not the guy who you are looking for. The closest one to you is the German young blood who has two numbered nickname.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 20 April 2011, 18:41:48
I like the that you haven't jumped on that. I haven't seen any please. He asked you in a way that I would ask someone I don't respect.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 19:14:42
Im suppose to respect someone who does nothing but hurl insults at every keyboard and keyboard maker on the planet?  lol

I am kinda curious to know which keyboard Hamblet actually likes though
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: wanabe on Wed, 20 April 2011, 19:38:18
(maybe if you say please :)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:13:58
PLLLEAAASEEE   please please please

:brick:
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:22:45
There's always this:
(http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wireless_1_20070813.jpg)

/Troll

Though Model Fs have metal bottoms.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: wanabe on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:27:35
Quote from: sixty;331393
1) The keyboard does not come with Cherry Corp keycaps, they were just used on the prototype. You are supposed to use "SoRaWeRe" keycaps with this. (Sora WYSE Replicia)

 
any info on these keycaps?  what exactly are they/
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:30:02
Be nice to Hamblet. He is of a different culture and is not accustomed to our ways.

Here's us trying to reason with him.

(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/The_Hangover_Chow.png)

And afterwards:

(http://www.londonnet.co.uk/files/images/cinema/thehangover3.jpg)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:30:55
They look like cherry beige double shots,  not sure what exactly they are made of though

Ripster : all the good info was deleted and im not trying to troll Hamblet but it seems like he hates every keyboard on the planet, so far hes mentioned diatec, leo, OTD customs, and iomania as companies he doesnt like.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:42:27
Quote from: ripster;334608
You guys aren't particularly helpful.

Either start learning korean or stop trolling Hamblet.

For example I learned a LOT about stabilizers and Datacomp from this thread.


I know Korean and anything I don't know my korean b/f can help me translate
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:58:29
Quote from: ripster;334627
Well....the main thing is trying to figure out these Hangul WallOjpegs that keep popping up here at Geekhack.

Anything interesting?


are you talking about the typesolid ones?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: DarthBaiter on Wed, 20 April 2011, 21:07:24
The 300 comes in Hangul and Otaku and 500 is Americanish.

Anything else you need to know? ;)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: calavera on Wed, 20 April 2011, 21:56:18
The Cheat is in extremely high demand, as soon as one shows up in the market section it's snatched up within minutes. Literally.
Dozens of WTB threads but nobody is really selling them. I do enjoy all the pics that are being uploaded though since it's been distributed a few days ago.
I wish I was in Korea when the group buy happened. :(

The SP keycaps with the teal/aqua color fonts are also quite popular (personally not my thing, I prefer beige/white cherry corps) as well.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 22:58:00
Quote from: ripster;334657

Yeah, like is that the ONLY difference?


This it the main reason that I asked you about this forum's updating. This is not an updating. This is a censorship. WHY this forum deleted all the records that I worte in that 2days ? Remember ? I gave you all the detail information about the f**King Leopold keyboard models, their model naming secrets and including exct (brief) histories.
 
Ripster, you are overestimating Leopold. What do you want from them ? Just let them go. They are stupid. Do not bewildered by their model naming rules. They have their ways of cheating.

FC 300R and FC 500R are exactly same model. The ONLY, SOLE and SINGLE differece is keycap's letters. Former has English/Local, the other has only your language. THAT IS ALL.

If you want some more intellectual or reasonable reasons from Leopold for changing moldel numbers in two hundreds, I told you, you are  overestimating them.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: wanabe on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:02:12
i think that's all
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:08:45
Quote from: ripster;334623

The OP keys are Cherry Doubleshots I think.  ABS.
These are the interesting ones.  These are Signature Plastics.  Recognize the ugly font and wimpy arrow keys anywhere.

 
You are right. ABS.
You are right again. SP.
You are right again and again. The Ugly font and wimpy (what is that my local dictionay does not know the meaning, but I guessing a kind of dumbassness).
Every and all local asshats are worshipping those idiot keytops. Sorrawalle keytops, Ddddochu imitation keytops etc..
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:18:00
Quote from: Lpb45;334616

..  not trying to troll Hamblet but it seems like he hates every keyboard on the planet, so far hes mentioned diatec, leo, OTD customs, and iomania as companies he doesnt like.

 
As far as I remember, I gave all the reasons why I hate the f**King Leopold, OhTheDirty, TypoNowSolid as companies and as products.

And, I do not remember. Did I mentioned Diatec in this stupid Keyboard/Forum/Company listings ??  I (guess) do not think so. I do not love Diatec but, as far as I know they did not give me any bull****.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:21:34
Quote from: ripster;334608

For example I learned a LOT about stabilizers and Datacomp from this thread.


That informations are all gone forever. And, I do not want to type it again in this forum.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:34:39
Quote from: Lpb45;334549
Im suppose to respect someone who does nothing but hurl insults at every keyboard and keyboard maker on the planet?  lol

I am kinda curious to know which keyboard Hamblet actually likes though


Hmmmmm, you are very interesting. I think you got the same ways of thinking as 50 hitmen in those idiot local keyboard forum.
I just expressed my experience with some good evidences. And, can you guess what happend the next moment ??? 50 maybe more bullets penetrate my brain in minutes. They do not asked me any reason, any kind of intellectual discussions. Actually they hate discussions. They are just trigger happy (in this case switch_happy) idiots. Long live the Worshippser.  

I prefer invisible keyboards. Anything invisible to the idiots eyes, I like it. Now I am typing this English letters with Taiwanese left handed keyboard, model number is KB 8862 XPL from Strongman.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: litster on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:37:11
I thought there was a forum software upgrade a few days ago and it had a botched database backup, therefore a bunch of posts in between the last good backup and the bad backup were lost.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:42:02
i like hamblet
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:53:31
Quote from: litster;334693
I thought there was a forum software upgrade a few days ago and it had a botched database backup, therefore a bunch of posts in between the last good backup and the bad backup were lost.

Yes,, That is very convenient. Deja Vu.

We have a news. It is a very very big news in my area. One of the largest bank in this country had a computer problem. Their explanation goes like this "One of our engineer typed.  >delete file  commend on his laptop". And the next moment THE big IMB banking servers (about 300 more) all around country are down and deleted informaions. So, we lost all banking records in there. People know the untold truth. "Ahaaa. That son of *****es starts new business. Laundry services". All the dirty black money got cleaned and now they are very innocent white money. Nobody can make any kind of hard evidence about it. Because we do not have any details/informaions.



EDIT
IMB -> IBM  (I hate this three letters. Sorry for hateness)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: litster on Thu, 21 April 2011, 00:00:45
If only your posts and no one else's were deleted, then sure.  But other people's posts were lost, too.  I don't think you are as special as you think you are ;)

"son of *****es"...  hum, that reminds me of Jurassic Park.  Those female dinosaurs found a way :-)
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 00:06:42
Quote from: litster;334700
If only your posts and no one else's were deleted, then sure.  But other people's posts were lost, too.  I don't think you are as special as you think you are ;)

"son of *****es"...  hum, that reminds me of Jurassic Park.  Those female dinosaurs found a way :-)


Yes, you are right. I know.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 00:31:10
Quote from: Hamblet;334692
Hmmmmm, you are very interesting. I think you got the same ways of thinking as 50 hitmen in those idiot local keyboard on the planet.
I just expressed my experience with some good evidences. And, can you guess what happend the next moment ??? 50 maybe more bullets penetrate my brain in minutes. They do not asked me any reason, any kind of intellectual discussions. Actually they hate discussions. They are just trigger happy (in this case switch_happy) idiots. Long live the Worshippser.  

I prefer invisible keyboards. Anything invisible to the idiots eyes, I like it. Now I am typing this English letters with Taiwanese left handed keyboard, model number is KB 8862 XPL from Strongman.

Nobody is out to get you, I dont know if its that your english isnt the best or what but im guessing it seems to you like everyone is out to get you because you talk down to people like we are stupid or something, you insult every keyboard and keycap maker on the planet and the only reason you are here is probably because youve been kicked off every keyboard or enthusiast forum in your neck of the woods because you come off as being super arrogant when your no differant then me or anyone else here at this forum, we all come here for the same reason because we like keyboards, which you obviouly do not as you hate every keyboard on the face of the earth.

Its ok though keep calling us "Did I mentioned Diatec in this stupid Keyboard/Forum/Company listings" and every other name you can come up with and im sure everyone around here will keep thinking your the coolest like noodles ( I thought you were cool at first until you started calling us morons every other sentence).  Its a pretty telling sign when Sixty thinkgs your no good as he seems like one of the most even temepered people on these and deskthoritys forums.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 00:38:35
Quote from: calavera;334653
The Cheat is in extremely high demand, as soon as one shows up in the market section it's snatched up within minutes. Literally.
Dozens of WTB threads but nobody is really selling them. I do enjoy all the pics that are being uploaded though since it's been distributed a few days ago.
I wish I was in Korea when the group buy happened. :(

The SP keycaps with the teal/aqua color fonts are also quite popular (personally not my thing, I prefer beige/white cherry corps) as well.


So do you think there is any chance that any will make it to ebay?  They could make a killing on a couple of these on ebay, I guess it isnt really about the money with these boards though and cant say I blame them
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 02:25:50
Quote from: Lpb45;334706
Nobody is out to get you, I dont know if.......

 
I had some typos in my earlier comment, but that was not a big deal.


I do not care what you are thinking. Because, you hate me with unclear reason.


You are using the word "WE" when you think there are some people who are with you. Who are WE ?

I guess you mean, Those local arrogant longtimer_gurus around KBDManiacs ? Or, those wannabe arrogant gasbag gurus in that forum(s) ? Or, those innocent only_consuming_worshippers ? Or, just_joined do_not_know_at_alls ? Ah, there are some more candidate WEs. I really respect some (a few) real gurus. You maybe know some of them (or maybe not) in this GK, DeskThority, KBDMania and other individually scattered keyboard websites around world (including dearest Mr. T. R in Japan who knows everything about Topre. Mybe you know the famous Moonlight Cafe. If you are not a stupid).

If you are calling above all kinds of variety people into one "WE",  then, I quit. You win.
That is the only reason why I am thinking you have the exactly same ways of thinking with those no_brain_only worshipping_50 hitmen in KBDManiac.

I hate some keyboards with very clear reason(s).
I hate some company/brands/distributor with very clear reason(s).
I hate some forum member(s, just like you) with very clear reason(s).

And I also have some really lovely one(s, at least in my mind) with clear reasons. These are Keyboards/Company/Brands/Distributors/Forum members. They are silent ones and give me no bull****s no idiotic myth and no silly fatasy at all.  They are really hardworking at their own unseen places. They talk to me with their own infomations, data and experiences. They are middle priced boards, Strongman, Datacomp, Costar, Filco, some importers you do not know at all (and I do not want call all individual members whom I like)  etc etc...

Now you are one of the Asshats. You hates me just to hate me.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 03:48:19
Back to the topic.

All keyboards are good. They are just good. Lots of fine developers and engineers have devoted their own precious life energies into that.

But, If you think about that who handles the goods, then the same nice goods could have different name on it.

You know new keyboard TypeNow Solid from IOMania (S. Korean keyboard distributor. It has very nice reputations for very long time). The keyboard have been claimed that it will be a top quality, high class keyboard. Couple of days ago, thanks for some good reviewers threads in KBDMania. Now, we know all of their little dirty secrets. This is just full of bull****s. TypeNow Solid has cheap board of Leopold FC 200RT without any kind of modification/change/improvements. It is, actually, if you think about their nice_promise/good_wordings, bottom quality, low class keyboard. Disappoited. No, it is more than disappoited. They cheated customers. So, I re-named that board to TypoNowSolid. Thre is more specific reason for that naming. When you see their AD (both of English version and their own mother tongue version all), it has too many typos (and if I were good at English, I could find some more weird sentences). I typed all of them (almost 90 of them). And sent to Boss of IOMania expectiong some positive response. They gave me a response-insult. They just deleted my errata. Fine, you give me bull****s/insincerities/asshat attitudes. That is enough.

This is all about between me and TypoNowSolid. Some ignorant idiot in this forum hates me. I do not care about that. I am having more that 50 hitmen here and there. I am a busy man.

Do you want to hear some more stories about OhTheDirty's keyboad "The Cheat" (they have real name - Copy My Ass keyboard, in short CMA. It is a really stupid_dirty name). I guess you do not want to hear. Because you are really want to have it. Yes, the board are fine. I agree. The people who handles/makes the board are not like that.

And, How about local distributor Leopold (I call them as the f**King Leopold). Yes, their goods are nice. I like goods from datacomp. But, I have an unpleasant memories with Leopold. I guess you do not want to hear.

Realforce ? Yes, I got very unhappy ones too. It is not a rumor or guruish-knowledge about that. It is my direct experience.

I have my right and reasons to hate them. So I hate them (some of them).
I have my right and reasons to love them. So I love them (some of them).



Back to the topic.

Yes, I agree, that is really nice keyboards. If you want to buy it, do it.

Here. I am just adding a very weak voice of mine. That is all. Idiot.





EDIT

Today, I saw a news. Topre have one more new model in here.
Realforce 106.
It is not the old Japanese 106 ver., this is a new Korean 106 ver. which has its own language keys.  

It has red steel plate and purple switch plastics.
Color scheme looks really ugly to me (free of charge extra 12 keytops).
Key weights are equal layouts and variety layouts as in other models.
Nothing special except above mentioned.

The reason I added this information to this comment is for Leopold. Leopold is a S. Korean distributor who imports keyboard from Taiwan (and name it as Leopold) and Realforce from Japan.

I call them "the f**King Leopoold". Becaus I have a bad memory with them. I told, claimed and insisted them that you have to have really localized version of your keyboard. Just like European/Japanese versions - which have their own language keytop(s) thus changed their layouts from US/ISO/American layouts. Actually, Leopold have "a" localized boards but it is not really localized ones. Because they are US/ISO/American layouts with some extra local charactors printed on keytops. The only response from them to my suggestion was the same as IOMania's - ignoring.  Fine.  In doing that I had to have fight with more than 100 dirty_zombie forum members of KBDManiacs. They are all shouting "We do not need ugly KOREAN letters, dirty KOREAN keys and uncomfortable KOREAN layouts,  on noble Realforce". I think those *******s are all Americans for sure from top to toe. Stupid. Shame. Nothing more. I know, The real one whom to blame is not Leopold but these ignorant customers. So, I am not calling them as a Customer OR Keyboard Lovers OR forum members. They are just no_brain_worshippers. And for the distributor who hides behind 100 hitmen, I gave them a dirty name f**King Leopold. Of course the f**King Leopold gave me several other fine bull****s too. Want to hear ? To tell the full story is just waste of time.

You guys from western do not understand the meaning of KOREAN keys on keyboard. Because you do not have any historical memory of bitter colonial period. 35 years of Japanese and after that now, we are American colony. Fine.

But, do not categorize me a backward_going dumbass. I am going forward. There is a scientific reasons too. Maybe you recognize that Japanese layout has very short Spacebar(s). Because, actually, they do not need any spaces between each letters (words) at all. You westerners are not possible to imagine it but, for Japanese it is for real and for sure (Chinese too). Koreans are halfway. A little bit closer to you guys. My point is we do not need that much long long Spacebar layouts. A little bit shorter from US/ISO/American is the best.

Finally, I can see my language version of the Realforce (Not US/Americal version !!). God Damn. It takes more than 4 years.








EDIT 2nd
- New Realforce has tow versions. One is reduced_noise, the other is regular_noised.
- Added, the reason to have shorter Spacebar.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 21 April 2011, 04:54:45
The second Realforce looks quite awesome.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 06:57:19
Quote from: Hamblet;334677
You are right. ABS.
You are right again. SP.
You are right again and again. The Ugly font and wimpy (what is that my local dictionay does not know the meaning, but I guessing a kind of dumbassness).
Every and all local asshats are worshipping those idiot keytops. Sorrawalle keytops, Ddddochu imitation keytops etc..

Geekhack must have a LOT of asshats then. We ordered more than 30,000 keys from SP in the group buy.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: DarthBaiter on Thu, 21 April 2011, 07:06:42
Quote from: ripster;334657
Yeah, like is that the ONLY difference?


According to the pages you linked, yes that is the only difference.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 07:35:00
Quote from: keyboardlover;334773
Geekhack must have a LOT of asshats then. We ordered more than 30,000 keys from SP in the group buy.

Is that true ? I did not know that news.
What kind of color do they have ? Do you have any more information ?



EDIT
30,000 keytops mean approx. 300 full sets. That is a really big order.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: sixty on Thu, 21 April 2011, 07:44:27
Quote from: Hamblet;334780
Is that true ? I did not know that news.
What kind of color do they have ? Do you have any more information ?



EDIT
30,000 keytops mean approx. 300 full sets. That is a really big order.

 
Basically its an exact copy of the OTD DolchReplica with legends centered and in capslock instead. I guess you will not be too happy.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 07:54:00
I actually LIKE the look of those realforces. But I'm a guru gasbag garbage asshats, so what do I know?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 07:54:54
Quote from: sixty;334781
Basically its an exact copy of the OTD DolchReplica with legends centered and in capslock instead. I guess you will not be too happy.

 
Yes, you are right. Thanks.

I do not like double copied (double imitated, double crap) keytops. I am not a Cherry boy. I need my own language on it. Finally, I hate those dirty guys (OoopsTheDirty).
You know me. It is better for you to have an enemy who knows you then to have a friend who knows nothing.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Hamblet on Thu, 21 April 2011, 08:06:52
Quote from: keyboardlover;334784
I actually LIKE the look of those realforces. But I'm a guru gasbag garbage asshats, so what do I know?

Hey, KeyboardAmoretto.. It is not for you. It is for far and far Estern peripheral residentials like me.
It has very stupid keys on left/right of Spacebar. It mkes only "make signal" and not make break signal. Nobody knows why
(How about Japanese language keys on their version 106/108/109s ? Do they make break signal ? or not ? I have no idea).
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 08:32:14
Quote from: Hamblet
Hey, KeyboardAmoretto..

Hehe, nice =)

Quote from: Hamblet
It is not for you. It is for far and far Estern peripheral residentials like me.
It has very stupid keys on left/right of Spacebar. It mkes only "make signal" and not make break signal. Nobody knows why
(How about Japanese language keys on their version 106/108/109s ? Do they make break signal ? or not ? I have no idea).

Ok I understand...you prefer a layout that makes sense for Koreans. Makes sense.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: imsto on Thu, 21 April 2011, 08:45:26
oh, it's so nice, how to get it?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 09:02:08
Quote from: keyboardlover;334784
But I'm a guru gasbag garbage asshats, so what do I know?

 
QFT, except for the guru part.
Gurus are comfortable with the solder iron.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 10:05:18
RiGs, you're still here?

Hey, remember when you cried about losing money from a poker/warez site, then you were gonna buy a typenow until you found out it was an overpriced Leopold?

Now that's what I call an asshat!

P.s. Hamblet rocks. If he posted half as much as you, this forum would be really freakin fun!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 10:58:06
Hey, I remember when you proved yourself as a malevolent asshat person. Luckily, I didn't lose any money, because of your tyrant government operation.
However, it was nice that so many geekhackers saw when you revealed us your real nature. Too bad that half of the content lost in the forum update.
BTW Pokerstars and Full Tilt are definitely not warez sites.

Hamblet absolutely rocks. Sadly, the same thing can't be told about you.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:02:34
I think 3 Geekhackers agreed with you since they also used those sites. Many more agreed with me.

Lol.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:06:47
I want hhkb 3
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:07:09
LOL everyone attacked you in that thread even ripster. You are delusional.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:08:00
Quote from: RiGS;334904
LOL everyone attacked you in that thread even ripster. You are delusional.

Nope. Try again Mr. 50 hitmen troll.

So oversensitive too!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: Lpb45 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:22:49
Quote from: calavera;334653
The Cheat is in extremely high demand, as soon as one shows up in the market section it's snatched up within minutes. Literally.
Dozens of WTB threads but nobody is really selling them. I do enjoy all the pics that are being uploaded though since it's been distributed a few days ago.
I wish I was in Korea when the group buy happened. :(

The SP keycaps with the teal/aqua color fonts are also quite popular (personally not my thing, I prefer beige/white cherry corps) as well.

 
Do any of the 356 custom boards ever show up on the marketplace?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 11:35:00
We all can see through your lies. There is no point in hiding your true identity anymore.

It is funny how you suddenly started worshipping Hamblet, but I also remember how you had made fun of (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?16337-Do-we-need-new-troll-poll&p=313686&viewfull=12#post313686) him behind his back.

Hey, isn't that hipocrate?
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 12:03:54
Rigs, I think you won't stop trolling me until everyone here hates me. I've got news for you. It ain't gonna happen.

So give it up bro. Welly did.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:20:58
I don't need to assist you in that.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:33:11
But...its not the case. Or are you too delusional to believe that?

Oh that's right, you follow Alex Jones. So logic and reason doesn't matter.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:44:22
I don't really check the market section that often but it seems they do exist. I have every once in a blue moon seen someone sell it. Of course it's flooded with replies and sold within minutes. lol
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:47:46
Quote from: Lpb45;334912
Do any of the 356 custom boards ever show up on the marketplace?

Every once in a blue moon some people do sell unassembled parts for it. It's very rare but it does happen. Of course the minute a sale thread shows up it's filled with tons of replies and sold within minutes. lol
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 15:28:27
I'm literally going to go through all his posts and start reporting every direct attack and prejudice this guy has made towards me. I don't have to put up with this ****.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 15:55:09
Quote from: Hamblet;334669
This it the main reason that I asked you about this forum's updating. This is not an updating. This is a censorship. WHY this forum deleted all the records that I worte in that 2days ?


KL's desperate flagging is what I would call censorship.
I hope he is happy now.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 16:55:12
How did I censor you? I didn't delete your posts.

In any case, your hate mongering and prejudice won't be tolerated here.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 17:11:27
LOL. You must be really feeling powerful right now. You act like kindergarten kids.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 17:15:25
Sigh. You just don't get it bro.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 17:27:50
I totally get your Napoleon complex.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 17:52:26
I hope RiGs and KL fights ends up being like Mortal Kombat

FIGHT!!

dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun dun dundun


FIGHT!
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 17:58:31
FATALITY!

[video=youtube;ToOv1yNU1h8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToOv1yNU1h8[/video]
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 19:10:29
If it was there'd only be two hits.

Me hitting rigs and rigs hitting the floor.

Well "ground" if it was in Hungary.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 21 April 2011, 19:22:53
Sure, you must be in good shape. I bet you couldn't even do a pull up.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 21 April 2011, 19:51:22
I'll check back when you come up with a better comeback.
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 21 April 2011, 22:30:45
mortal kombat 9 fatalities are so brutal. they make me squeem
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: wanabe on Thu, 21 April 2011, 23:13:05
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Korean OTD guys New custom Keyboard "The cheats"
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 22 April 2011, 09:49:56
Um, lock?