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Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:08:44

Hey everyone, just joined today ^-^.  I was looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard.  I have a few problems though, I do not know if I want a blue cherry or a brown cherry; I do a good mix of typing and gaming.  In addition, can anyone point me in the right direction of some highly rated blue/ brown keyboards? Thanks!! :D

EDIT: I was looking at, let me know what you think.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional-silent/

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:25:29

A Filco would be your best bet. Good track record, highly respected, well built board.

If you want the brown, wait for this to come back in stock. (http://www.amazon.com/Majestouch-Tenkeyless-Tactile-Action-Keyboard/dp/B001BR4NLI/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1302895277&sr=1-4)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:32:11

The das keyboard is a great keyboard, so is the filco and the leopold, it really comes down to how much you want to spend and which style really catches your eye.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:33:46

It's worth waiting for the Majestouch 2.
http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=331424&postcount=10 (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=331424&postcount=10)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:34:40

Gotchya, what are some good blue ones?  I have heard that blue is good for gaming and that it is "meh" for gaming, what is the real deal?

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: NimbleRabit on Fri, 15 April 2011, 14:47:34

Quote from: Zamorph;331575

Gotchya, what are some good blue ones?  I have heard that blue is good for gaming and that it is "meh" for gaming, what is the real deal?

It mostly has to do with double tapping.  Some people don't like the blues when double tapping as much because the point at which they send the keystroke and reset is kinda far apart (compared to browns at least), so you have to let off the key more before pressing it again when double tapping.  You can see what I'm talking about in these graphs:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11338&d=1277307714)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11339&d=1277307720)

This bothers some people more than others, but overall I personally don't think it makes a big difference.  To me the choice comes down to the sound much more - if you want the clicky sound of the blues go with them, and if you don't then go with the browns (although you should know that the browns aren't quiet by any means either, they just don't have that extra clicky noise).

I'd recommend checking out some of the posts in the Wiki, such as these:
The Geekhack Mechanical Keyboard Guide (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links)
Worldwide Shopping Links (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Geekhack+WorldWide+Shopping+Links)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:13:31

Quote from: ripster;331589

You must have heard that at OCN.   They are prone to GROSS simplification.  It's like keyboard noobs that learn something new then feel they have to tell everybody about it.

It's actually more of a personal preference thing.

My analogy of the day is worrying about Blue Cherry Hysteresis  while gaming is like the odds of getting Genital herpes.  It's very likely you will have the bug but most of the time you don't feel the symptoms. (http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2011/04/13/2011-04-13_genital_herpes_can_spread_despite_lack_of_symptoms_std_may_still_be_shred_endang.html)

And some people prefer BOTH tactile and audio feedback to make sure you have made the right move.  This last sentence wasn't part of the Genital herpes analogy.

Haha, yeah I did read that from there.  Thanks for the imput guys.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: RAICHU on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:19:09

Being an avid FPS player (CS) myself and using the Cherry MX Blues, I believe there is no issue with double tapping at all. It definitely is a "Blue Cherry Hysteresis".

The clicking does not really bother me as for in-game, I use a Audio-technica ATH-AD700 so I don't really hear the click all that much, just the clack.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:25:35

If you want the best, then buy yourself a linear one.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:41:00

I don't get the condom part.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:42:34

Lmao

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: drsauced on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:42:40

Wow.

Anyway, more boring perhaps, but you can last longer...

And you're still having sex!

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:43:03

Quote from: ripster;331623

Linear switches for gaming is like Sex with a condom.  You won't get Genital Herpes but it's more boring.

thats a good analogy, I'll be sure to tell my parents that

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:47:48

Quote from: Zamorph;331547

Hey everyone, just joined today ^-^.  I was looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard.  I have a few problems though, I do not know if I want a blue cherry or a brown cherry; I do a good mix of typing and gaming.  In addition, can anyone point me in the right direction of some highly rated blue/ brown keyboards? Thanks!! :D

EDIT: I was looking at, let me know what you think.
http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional-silent/

My personal and little biased opinion is that the right midway between blacks and blues, are the clears.

Unluckily you can find them just on the deck legend and in some cherry boards.


IMHO Browns are nice but too similar to blacks (veeery light tactile feedback)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 15 April 2011, 15:55:31

Quote from: ripster;331637

Clears are like trying to have sex with a virgin to prevent Genital herpes.

Hahaha

Btw I must already be infected: just an occasional intercourse with a black widow. (that being a widow....:cool:)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:00:59

Quote from: ripster;331615

Blue Cherries are like sex.  Genital Herpes and all.

I cant decide between
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=651
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=624

Though the herpes are scaring me.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:08:47

Quote from: ripster;331650

I've got a good Blacks analogy lined up too but if I post it I'd get banned fo sho.

Either of those Filcos would be fine.  Buying a keyboard is like sex.  If you worry about Genital Herpes all the time you'd never do it.  Once you've started though you can't stop.

lmao, someone wants me to buy bloo :P... or any keyboard in general

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:11:19

Are you from UK ?

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:12:35

Quote from: The Solutor;331661

Are you from UK ?

Idk if you are talking to me or not, but no Im from USA

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:14:28

Quote from: Zamorph;331665

Idk if you are talking to me or not, but no Im from USA

Yes I was speaking with you, but nevermind I was just asking because the Filcos are available also with the UK layout.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: sam113101 on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:16:54

Buckling spring is like doing sex without a condom but being in godmode so you don't have to worry about AIDS and pregnancy. IT guys always make good analogies.
(http://i.imgur.com/cQua8.jpg)

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:21:49

Quote from: sam113101;331674

Buckling spring is like doing sex without a condom but being in godmode so you don't have to worry about AIDS and pregnancy. IT guys always make good analogies.

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/cQua8.jpg)

LMFAO that is the best thing I have seen in a while.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:22:16

I agree, with both the sentences...:rolleyes:

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:24:45

Quote from: ripster;331677

If you're from the USA I'd get the Leopold Cherry Blue and be happy.

At $99 Leopolds are like cheap sex.  Increases your chance of Genital Herpes but hard to resist.

Is the only difference btwn the leopold and the filco the price? If so, I will probably get that.

Title: Help choosing keyboard
Post by: Zamorph on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:28:54

Quote from: ripster;331689

There's ALWAYS differences but $40 in difference?

I don't think so.  But then I've just made 6 Genital Herpes analogies in a row so you should see what other people say.

Lmao, if class was like this thread maybe I would learn more.