Oh, boy. For a second there I thought your headline was about the people who make and procure the Poker keyboard, and I had an alarming vision of iMav absconding to Taiwan with my ninety-five clams.
Still, what I heard about the issue isn't gambling, but circumventing the payment system, bribing some banks and such...
Yep.
I also think that taking gambling (especially online) seriously is pretty dumb.
As a fellow geekhacker, if I had even one shred of respect for you before this, it is gone now.
Hey everyone, /KL lives in Reno!
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Hey everyone, /KL lives in Reno!
It sucks that they took your money, RiGS. As someone that doesn't live in the US you are not bound by the same laws we are. Maybe there will be some recourse for you?
You are not only ignorant, but you have failed as a Christian.
So you can keep your opinion to yourself.
Well, you're wrong on both counts. And fortunately, I live in a free country so I can post as I please =)
ive made over 6 figures playing at full tilt.
You know nothing about Christianity. Also, it ain't a sport if it doesn't have cheerleaders.
Hey, I married one!!!
Proverbs 13:11 - "Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished: but he that gathereth by labour shall increase."
Proverbs 20:21 - "An inheritance may be gotten hastily at the beginning; but the end thereof shall not be blessed."
Romans 12:17 - "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men."
WWJD? Even Jesus would tell you that gambling is stupid.
It's pretty well documented that Jesus preached doing what's right to/by/for others, and that working hard would bring you what you need. Gambling is the antithesis of that behavioral model.
.XL: It's ok; you didn't offend me. I don't want you to feel like you can't speak what's on your mind, even if I don't agree with it. But people who are very critical of religion often don't have "the facts" to back up their opinions. So, if I see something incorrect I'll correct it.
Maybe we'll have to open up that thread sooner than I thought ;)
Wow, facts and religion in the same sentence you are pathetic.
There's already been ones in the past. It basically always turns into a ****-show. Why? Because religion always comes down to faith, and those who don't believe in that can't grasp religion. That's not a bad thing. Religion isn't for everyone.
These sites are not even in the US.They may have lost their present domain names. If they're not in the U.S., though, they can register non-U.S. domain names, and go right back to business, as long as they cease and desist accepting U.S. players. The money they will have lost would be payments going through U.S. credit card companies that were illegal under U.S. law - payments from American players.
I'm not a man of faith, but I DO hope that somehow I will get that money back.
RiGS, maybe if you weren't so hostile you would be better at decision making?
The essential feature of irony is the indirect presentation of a contradiction between an action or expression and the context in which it occurs.
Forgive me, but I don't live in a country where all of my expenses can be covered from a salary.
I have to seek alternatives.
It's up to you to choose what those alternatives are.So? If his skill sets mean that he can be a winning professional poker player, that in itself is not objectionable.
Holy ****, I have like 2 grands at these sites.
How's the proverb go? A something and his money... Something happens to them?
It's just a dumb thing to take seriously and spend money on dude. Nothing "puritan" about it. No ones saying people aren't free to do dumb ****. But I'm also free to say that its dumb!
...but I don't get why people are so against online gambling? For many people playing poker online is just a way to relax and enjoy themselves. You shouldn't call them fools for that.Gambling involves money changing hands.
It's just a dumb thing to take seriously and spend money on dude. Nothing "puritan" about it. No ones saying people aren't free to do dumb ****. But I'm also free to say that its dumb!
Yet gambling online is not, and we have sites like etrade, stock trading boiled down to it's purest form is gambling.
There's a very fundamental difference between investing and gambling.
(Spoken by a proud eTrade user) =)
Why can't they allow (monitored) gambling? Why is gambling portrayed as some evil pastime?
You know what's ironic? When someone claims they need to sell a keyboard to pay their mortgage, then uses the money to buy another keyboard!
How's the proverb go? A something and his money... Something happens to them?
+1.
Is that all you can say with your IQ score of 108?
It's just a dumb thing to take seriously and spend money on dude. Nothing "puritan" about it. No ones saying people aren't free to do dumb ****. But I'm also free to say that its dumb!
P.S., the only game which doesn't have cheerleaders that I still consider to be a game is hockey. Because a. it's f**king badass and b. they have ice girls.Show Image(http://monkeyhockey.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/blackhawks-ice-girls.jpg)
P.S., the only game which doesn't have cheerleaders that I still consider to be a game is hockey. Because a. it's f**king badass and b. they have ice girls.
WWJD? Even Jesus would tell you that gambling is stupid.
Who the **** are you to tell anyone else what they can and cannot do...
KL - carrying this RiGS squabble over EVERY THREAD is getting old.
You can't play with fire and not be afraid to get burned.
KL - carrying this RiGS squabble over EVERY THREAD is getting old. If I wanted to watch fighting I'd go upstairs and watch my teenager and wife go at it.
It's one thing to lose your money in a hand. It's another to have a foreign country's police confiscate it when you haven't broken any laws.
Are you in line to become the next RiGS or something? Your posts make about as much sense as his.
P.S. Many Americans lose their virginity whilst under the age of 18. Including me =)
ShaZAM!
BTW, while your bashing my country, why don't you tell use where you live?
BUT...
I never actually did that. Did you even read the thread?
Hahaha - that's what the tax evaders that had money in the Swiss Bank UBS thought!
Assets were held in Swiss vaults.
You'd be amazed to learn how Governments tend to have lots of incentive to cooperate on financial things.
By asserting that someone who loses money by these gambling sites being shut down by the FBI deserves that loss of money, you are simultaneously asserting that said activity is worthless and that their claim to it as a valid pastime is worthless.
Also I don't appreciate you preaching Christian(inan)ity in defence of your position, it's disingenuous and insulting to those of us who are able to justify our activities rationally without resorting to some two thousand year old piece of papyrus as proof of their legitimacy.
There you go again. Preaching to the choir.
You seem upset.
Are you saying you lied and aren't buying five of them (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=332037&postcount=16)?
You lie about me lying.
Except the money wasn't lost by gambling it away.
If you stepped out on your smoke break at work and a car lost control and swerved off the road, killing you.
Would it be any less tragic just because you were engaging in an activity that's known to kill you?
Would you try to use that as evidence to argue that people shouldn't smoke, even in legally designated areas?
It was illegal in the first place, so any and all monies that are involved in that area are forfeited. Again i'm not saying yea or nay on it, i don't care either way but it was deemed illegal and as such everyone playing knew the risk everyday, and if they didn't they were obliviously ignorant.
At the risk of eliminating any of the respect I most likely have never bothered to garner around here, it seems vaguely amusing to me that someone would act surprised at the notion of losing money... in an activity that involves gambling.
Hmm, so in Geekhack threads never get derailed?
No, never, why would you say that? :wink:
so the agencies involved can blow him both balls at once, he couldn't care less.
It's like Warez.posting these pics before others do!
People who warez are morally corrupt and should be banned at Geekhack.