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Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 14:42:16
I just received my HHKB pro 2 white, love the typing feeling,
but as soon as I took out the keyboard from the box, I noticed many of the keys
are tilted to the left and right. SDFGWEC, are definitely not straightened up.
And NCMNH are not trimmed correctly, can see white things sticking out on the top...
And T, O just stick out to the top, as if they are tumors.
I tried to tilt them back, so I took out the key caps.
Guest what, I see scratches
and black thick dust on the bottom. (they are not white dust clearly)
Maybe they sent me used one or defective one, but this was so disappointing.. :(

,./ left alt key, Fn key are also not trimmed correctly.
and biggest of all.... "," key has its top part bitten off.. as if someone hammered with...

Just requested EMA to elitekeyboards...
Love the keyboard typing feeling, and layout, but so disappointed that
I got this kind of product after I even ordered with 2nd day shipping waiting from Friday... :(
Can't believe I gotta wait again..

Did anybody have any issues with tilting or build quality with HHKB?
similar problem as mine?

I will post the pictures as soon as I can..
and if possible, please post your white HHKB pictures also, so I can compare with
perfect product.,
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: The Solutor on Wed, 27 April 2011, 15:54:29
If was an Xarmor Ripster had already started a desert storm.  :happy:
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 16:15:04
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If was an Xarmor Ripster had already started a desert storm.  
Just requested for exchange. Hope my exchanged one is in perfect condition :(
but so far the keyboard itself is great.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Evil_Spork on Wed, 27 April 2011, 16:16:58
Pics?
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Surly73 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 16:25:32
Quote from: Evil_Spork;338223
Pics?

This.  We need to see pics of this monstrosity.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 17:41:37
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Pics?
I cannot find the camera usb cable at the moment.. T_T
from other forums too, I think I am the first one who received HHKB in poor condition.
I don't think the damage got during the shipping but from the factory.
My keyboard seems okay from the distance, but when from a meter,
you can definitely see what is wrong. It just happens I guess, No luck...
My friend got Leopold 200, and his keys were tilted heavily as well, so he requested for an exchange...
AHHHH!!!
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Lpb45 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 18:02:58
I thought that EK checks the boards before he sends them?  Maybe something happened when they were being shipped to you, fed-ex and UPS are pretty bad when it comes to handling delicate electroniccs.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: chongyixiong on Wed, 27 April 2011, 20:44:05
The tilting is normal due to the design of the Topre keyswitch.

As for the little nubbins, it's always there as it's part of the process that produces the keycaps.

I demand for pictures!
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: trav on Wed, 27 April 2011, 21:56:59
Quote from: ripster;338285
Nah, there's another HHKB post here with tilted keys.  It's pretty visible on White keyboards and a shock to some new mechanical buyers just how even mm tilts are quite visible.  

Especially if you've never owned a IBM.
Show Image
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5183/5553443313_41560c56b2_z.jpg)

Show Image
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4989860081_6c6527d65f_z.jpg)

Ripster can you explain what I'm looking at in this picture?

At OP, i'm planning to purchase a HHKP on amazon next week (lots of amz giftcards) so I'd like to understand what is occurring here.
I have the HH light, and am purchasing the HHKP as my first mechanical simply because I love the layout with vi.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 22:42:06
I took the pictures with my phone. Because of the quality of the camera, it doesn't look bad, but in real, they are really tilted.
Also, "," key, in the picture you cannot really see it, but if you look closely to the top of the key, there big hole chopped off, like somebody took a bite.
I cannot take out the key anymore cause mine broke :(
But believe me... this needs EMA ASAP...
(http://file:///C:/Users/Chang%20In/Desktop/mms_picture.jpg)
(http://file:///C:/Users/Chang%20In/Desktop/0427112328a.jpg)
(http://file:///C:/Users/Chang%20In/Desktop/mms_picture%20(2).jpg)
(http://file:///C:/Users/Chang%20In/Desktop/mms_picture%20(3).jpg)
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 22:43:14
how do i upload images for reply? it says put URL... :(
I took some pictures with my bad quality camera from my phone.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: NormaJean on Wed, 27 April 2011, 22:44:33
Quote from: ripster;338473
You're looking at a Model M ESC key offcentered in the first pic and a Model F AT numpad in the second.  The Model F gets really squirrely in key orientation.

 
Are the keyboard's performances affected? :S
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 23:20:49
This pictures are taken from my phone.
They don't show much in the picture.
But in real... they are quite a mass...
especially WERTOG... T just stick out right when you look at the keyboard.
other keys are tilted too but I said the worst ones.
"," key looked liked that so I took it out, and that's how it was.
Looks like someone took a bite.
That's the only key I removed, but I believe some other keys are damaged too.
EK does exchange for a product quite easily right?
I mean, he sent a reply back to me, asking for pictures and can't believe it expression...
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 27 April 2011, 23:34:44
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I recommend a stiff drink. Caipirinhas are my fave but it is getting to be Mojito season.

I don't see anything unusual, including sprue marks at the BACK of the keys.
Well it's the pic. I am not really trying to be picky. I just took out the keyboard and noticed right away, they are heavily tilted.
The pictures don't show anything really. Except chew off part..
R u saying the chew off part is usual too? :(
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Human on Thu, 28 April 2011, 00:27:21
Quote from: brkim1324;338496
Well it's the pic. I am not really trying to be picky. I just took out the keyboard and noticed right away, they are heavily tilted.
The pictures don't show anything really. Except chew off part..
R u saying the chew off part is usual too? :(

Heavily tilted? Clearly you never met a Razer BW b4.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: reaper on Thu, 28 April 2011, 01:23:16
Looks ok to me except for this one..
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: DeltaGunner on Thu, 28 April 2011, 01:59:34
Quote from: Human;338511
Heavily tilted? Clearly you never met a Razer BW b4.


I have a Razer BW and i too notice the tilted stuff, but you won't notice it when your typing on it. And the backlight masks it a bit too.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: chongyixiong on Thu, 28 April 2011, 02:01:02
It generally looks ok.

Here's another thing - maybe try taking pictures once the sun comes out?
Makes it much more easier on your phone camera too - and given modern technology, a high resolution picture taken under the sun should reveal much more then an indoor picture.

Might make the exchange process easier with EK too.

Can't make anything out of the 1st pic other than the fact that it looks alright to me!
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: woody on Thu, 28 April 2011, 03:14:00
The HHKBs (and perhaps RFs) seem to suffer from tilted keycaps, which is more visible on white keyboards. The chewed keycap is not okay though, so you should seek a replacement.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: HaveANiceDay on Thu, 28 April 2011, 08:41:06
Looks ok to me.
Keycaps on topre keyboards have those sprue marks on the back, my 86U has them too.
That "," key has the sprue mark cut off a little more than the others. Don't know how you came to the conclusion that it was bitten off.
I thought the whole key was mangled by a rabid dog the way you described it.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Surly73 on Thu, 28 April 2011, 11:40:02
These pics don't look as bad as the original description led me to believe...
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: elef on Thu, 28 April 2011, 16:20:21
It looks fine from the pictures. Maybe try taking photos from a different angle, from just above the plane of the keyboard so we can see what your problem is.
You could ask for an extra < keycap to be mailed to you... if the board was mine, I wouldn't bother with it.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: nhwhaup on Wed, 18 May 2011, 04:50:17
Did you ever get your replacement and was the replacement better quality?  For the price of this keyboard I would expect first rate quality and would accept no less.
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Mazora on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:20:45
LOL I paid 350$ for my HHKBP2, his is in terrible condition

Quote from: Surly73;338692
These pics don't look as bad as the original description led me to believe...
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:29:56
Quote from: nhwhaup;347907
Did you ever get your replacement and was the replacement better quality?  For the price of this keyboard I would expect first rate quality and would accept no less.


bump
Title: Just got my HHKB pro 2 white, but defective
Post by: Larry Dallas on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:30:40
Quote from: Mazora;347935
LOL I paid 350$ for my HHKBP2, his is in terrible condition

Yeah, what's up with that? His HHKB is f**cked up![video=youtube;IA3oxE4X5w8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA3oxE4X5w8[/video]