However, the little bump on the "F" key is wearing out. It's almost gone flat. Is this a common thing or just my typing style?It's mostly your skin combined with your typing style.
From what I've been reading it goes like this :
2) Leopold - 109 (+ tax + ship) slightly below the filco in terms of quality. The biggest issue (or non issue) is that the large keys have a different stabilizer causing them to feel different from the regular keys. This may or may not be an issue with you.
The Filcos will be back on Amazon soonish and looks like many of us are going to take another wallet hit :(
Sure is! The group buy forum is great for replacement keycaps, dont ask me how they work though.
For those complains about the stabilizer, I recall most of them if not all are Cherry blue. I wonder if the difference for brown is as much. I like the Loepold OtaKu look but I would get a Filco if I can get it in the US just because I know what to expect from it.
In the USA for the price the Leopold is hard to beat.
Somebody look at their Leopold USB cable. OCN for some reason thinks it's USB Mini A but that would be crazy.
A on left, B on RightShow Image(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Mini_usb_AB.jpg)
Filco price is not bad if I can get it from amazon with free shipping. Too bad they don't cherry brown in stock at the moment.
I know people are going to Hong Kong, is there any good option I can find in Hong Kong? I may get from there instead.
Just my $.02:
I own a Filco, played with a Ducky, used to own a No Poo, used to own a PLU. If you know anyone going to China then I think the PLU tenkeyless is by far the best value. If you must buy in the US, then Filco is probably the way to go. I know nothing about Leos though.
Depends on how much you like NKRO versus 2KRO.
Never thought I'd say this, but I'd get a Leopold over a Filco if you're getting a brown. I actually like the way my Leopold feels over my Filco with browns. The keys feel a little nicer, maybe because it's otaku, and the switches feel a little smoother. The later part doesn't make sense to me, since they are both cherry browns. For $30, not sure if a Filco is worth it over the Leopold.
I use the otaku at work and it causes problems when other people need to use my workstation. So I ordered a normal Leopold with browns, and I'll swap them out quickly when I need to (take advantage of the USB cable). Plus you can never have too many keyboards. I'll have 3 at work after this.
The stabilizers aren't as nice as the ones on the Filco but I don't think you'll notice if you've never used a Filco before.
Thanks for your insight. I'm still torn. Does you Leopold ever squeak? That's my major concern.
I don't really need it now. I just want to get the right one.
jinrawke - can you tell me why you sold the Leo brown?
How is the quality of PLU compare to Filco?I felt like the quality of PLU was 85-95% of Filco. But so much cheaper if you can get it from China without import/broker fees.
Depends on how much you like NKRO versus 2KRO.Not everyone is a 1337 g4m3r like you! :happy: And I'm sure someone of your stature & experience knows that Filco's aren't ALL NKRO either. They just charge like 40% more for it.
I'm not using it for gaming. Mainly programming and typing stuff. So, NKRO is not really that important to me at all.I don't either. Neither my Filco nor my PLU have/had NKRO, and I never ran into problems. I use a lot of custom Ctrl+Alt+whatever shortcuts and those all worked fine.
None of my 5 Filcos ever squeaked.
Good Quality or Good Karma?
You decide.
Thanks for your insight. I'm still torn. Does you Leopold ever squeak? That's my major concern.
I'm more of a practical mechanical keyboard user. I just don't want to spend over a hundred bucks for a squeak keyboard.
For me here are pros for each of them
Leopold - blank keys and "hopefully" better quality key caps.
Filco - better stabilizer. I'm using it, so I know what to expect.
Ducky - cheap.
Cons:
Leopold - squeaky stabilizer issue.
Filco - less than desire key cap quality. shinny, letters and bump worn off after 2 years of use.
Ducky - lesser build quality and QA.
See this Cherry Key Pulling and Lubrication guide. (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12649)
Our Wiki format is a bit of a mess right now because I give this link out at least once a day between Geekhack, OCN, and KBDthority.
But the new forum pic attachment HTML is nice.
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I would add nifty velcro cord wrapper to the plusses. It picks up lots of lint though. I've learned to adjust unlike some HHKB users with wobbly keys.
I would add nifty velcro cord wrapper to the plusses. It picks up lots of lint though. I've learned to adjust unlike some HHKB users with wobbly keys.
I wish the Limited Edition R came in Red. It would make it more Limited Edition.
I would add "non detachable cord" to the list of filco cons.
you must type a lot of F-words
The removable cable on a keyboard is for people like me who route their KB cable through a hole in their desk and behind some crap and bundle it up in velcro tie straps. When you want to clean the keyboard it's easier to take it off the desk without a cable attached to it :)