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Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:23:40
Those are the news I've listened 15 minutes ago.

LIVE STREAM:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42852646#42852646

Obama is talking in 5 minutes:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/live?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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Post by: panda-R on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:26:04
It's true, they poisoned his daily rations of bacon.
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Post by: ricercar on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:27:24
US President was supposed to speak a live announcement nearly 60 minutes ago on a "National Security Issue." US needs to get it's cookies alla in a row before they go public. BBC Radio reports Osama Bin Laden was killed "by US Personnel" by "an American Asset" in a mansion near Islamabad (Pakistan), so there may be issues of toe-stepping. If it wasn't a drone, and it wasn't sanctioned by the Pakistantis, then it could be considered an Act of War.

Not that good old George W didn't cover that base 10 years ago, by declaring war on a strategy. Silly Pakistanis. USA told you we were gunning for Osama.
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Post by: ricercar on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:32:54
Yeah, we always want to catch them alive so we can kill them after a fair trial. It's the American way. Ask Saddam Hussein.
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Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:37:04
He's talking right now.
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Post by: audioave10 on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:52:10
Well...they finally got him without an expensive trial.
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Post by: ricercar on Sun, 01 May 2011, 22:59:41
I find it fascinating that they found Bin Laden in east Pakistan, considering the controversial drones are operating in west Pakistan.
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Post by: Ekaros on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:06:23
So have USA realy bravely murdered one more person?
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Post by: Ekaros on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:15:45
Quote from: ripster;340127
Obama authorized it so it's not murder.  It's like banning trolls.

Ah, that explains everything...

Hmm, so when do they solve rest of this terrorist bussiness and can get rid of TSA and homeland security?
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Post by: Son of Gnome on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:16:58
im happy he is dead but this is not the end of the war he has someone to take over for him. Oh yeah and the anti muslim comments all over the internet are really annoying for someone with muslim family members like me.
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Post by: Son of Gnome on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:18:41
ripster im american...
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Post by: Multiple on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:20:02
Quote from: Ekaros;340126
So have USA realy bravely murdered one more person?

Maybe, maybe not...

He might enjoy the pinacoladas at some CIA safe house, for all we know.

Being a CIA agent, retirement perks ought to be substantional.
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Post by: Ekaros on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:21:19
Quote from: Son of Gnome;340130
im happy he is dead but this is not the end of the war he has someone to take over for him. Oh yeah and the anti muslim comments all over the internet are really annoying for someone with muslim family members like me.

True, there is lot more out there and more will come after him... It's a long way to go, if done wrong way...
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Post by: Ekaros on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:22:00
Quote from: Multiple;340134
Maybe, maybe not...

He might enjoy the pinacoladas at some CIA safe house, for all we know.

Being a CIA agent, retirement perks ought to be substantional.

Wasn't he friend of Bush-family?
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Post by: quadibloc on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:24:29
Quote from: ricercar;340116
BBC Radio reports Osama Bin Laden was killed "by US Personnel" by "an American Asset" in a mansion near Islamabad (Pakistan), so there may be issues of toe-stepping. If it wasn't a drone, and it wasn't sanctioned by the Pakistantis, then it could be considered an Act of War.
It is true that the U.S. is claiming to have Osama bin Laden's body, which would seem to indicate it's not just a drone.

If he was in a mansion near Islamabad, and not a tent or a cave in the middle of the inaccessible hills of Pakistan, this implies there has been collusion, perhaps by elements in the Pakistani military or intelligence services. Even if this is not the case, for Pakistan to be... overly concerned about its sovereignty in relation to dealing with someone who killed thousands of innocent Americans out of the blue one morning... it might play well with forces hostile to America in the UN, but it would not play well with the American people.

I mean, if Pakistan wants a war, it can get one, but it wouldn't last very long.
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Post by: Multiple on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:31:07
Quote from: Ekaros;340138
Wasn't he friend of Bush-family?

That's what they say.
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Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:47:55
Did you see that? : http://www.indianexpress.com/news/alqaeda-threatens-nuclear-hellstorm-if-osama-is-caught-or-killed/780992/

Don't know if we can trust this source but doesn't sound good to me to have those mad terrorists saying things like that.
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Post by: Lanx on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:51:19
i say we pre-emptive nuke first!
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Post by: kill will on Sun, 01 May 2011, 23:56:09
osama bin laden never existed.
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Post by: speakeasy on Mon, 02 May 2011, 00:23:16
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Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 02 May 2011, 00:31:14
TerrorSim? Never heard of it... Must be American idea ;D
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Post by: Son of Gnome on Mon, 02 May 2011, 01:41:06
Quote from: Ekaros;340137
True, there is lot more out there and more will come after him... It's a long way to go, if done wrong way...

 
i believe it was either him or Hussein. Michel Moore addresses the issue incredibly in his film Fahrenheit 911.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 01:58:22
Quote from: guilleguillaume;340112
Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?

Good news!
Guilleguillaume, I hope you recovers from your cold soon ;)
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Post by: ricercar on Mon, 02 May 2011, 02:59:16
(http://i.imgur.com/KDssc.jpg)
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Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:11:05
Quote from: Ekaros;340138
Wasn't he friend of Bush-family?
There are connections between Bush and the larger Bin-Laden family, yes .. That family is one of the richest and most influential families in Saudi-Arabia.
Osama Bin Laden was cast out from the main Bin-Laden family a long time ago.

Quote from: ripster;340139
Show Image
(http://canv.as/ugc/processed/5a2a825d013a195cc16951d1444aba2a46c8b27f.jpeg)
There are linguists who claim that the Quran was actually written in a dialect of Arabic that was heavily influenced by Arameic. Their reasoning is that there are certain passages in the Quran that don't make perfect sense in pure arabic .. but which are perfectly reasonable when certain words are interpreted as Arameic.

One of these passages is the one about the virgins. In Arabic/Arameic, it instead promises that the deceased will be given white grapes to eat.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:13:06
A Fox news typo:
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjveovdg01qz7by3o1_500.jpg)
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Post by: Half-Saint on Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:35:34
Look, he's showing us his O-face!
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Post by: What is X? on Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:36:15
i love how christians rag on islam when their religion is no more substantiated :lol:
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 04:54:10
Quote from: audioave10;340124
Well...they finally got him without an expensive trial.


LoL - Do you think the 10 years of resources mobilization leading to this was cheap?

Anyway, I suspect they knew were he was for quite a while. The final conclusion was probably timed to produce the maximum political impact.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 05:05:12
Quote from: BucklingSpring;340216
Anyway, I suspect they knew were he was for quite a while. The final conclusion was probably timed to produce the maximum political impact.
I don't belive that. Osama has slipped the net before  and I belive that when they knew his whereabouts they hitted as soon as possible.
For Obama the political risks of delaying an operation for short time political gains would have been to great.
If Obama had postponed an operation and Osama had got away it's absolutley certain that someone in intelligence would have leaked that info to the press. Goodbye to re re-election would have been a minor set-back in Obamas agenda.
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Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 02 May 2011, 05:58:41
Quote from: vils;340200
A Fox news typo:
Show Image
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjveovdg01qz7by3o1_500.jpg)

 Considering that it was Fox News ... I would think it is more of a Freudian slip than a typo.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 06:14:50
NYPost summarizes my feelings:
(http://a.yfrog.com/img618/4003/csg0.jpg)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 06:21:08
Quote from: What is X?;340202
i love how christians rag on islam when their religion is no more substantiated :lol:

 
That's bull****. Do you ever hear of "radical christians" suicide bombing hundred of people? Didn't think so.

Edit: I think it's funny how Ekaros criticizes USA foreign policy regarding terrorism, yet lives in a country that no terrorist would EVER want to attack. Why? Because it's too f***ing cold!!!

And also because weirdos like Ekaros live there.

(http://www.babydoll.ws/content/uploads/2010/03/meanwhile-in-finland.jpg)


P.S. I dunno about anyone else but I'm in doubt that this actually happened...

Pic of Obama holding up Osama's severed head or it didn't happen!!
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Post by: IanM on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:15:44
Nice how these threads bring out the best in casual racism, jingoism and conspiracy theories :lol:

Quote from: keyboardlover;340230
That's bull****. Do you ever hear of  "radical christians" suicide bombing hundred of people? Didn't think so.
Nah, they just bomb abortion clinics, persecute homosexuals and commit the occasional genocide

Quote from: keyboardlover;340230
P.S. I dunno about anyone else but I'm in doubt that this actually happened...
They must believe they got Bin Laden (not a body double) in order to make the statement, even the stupidest politician will realise that they will look very stupid if Bin Laden appears on Al Jazeera in a day or two holding up a current newspaper or something  to prove that he is still alive
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:19:57
Quote from: IanM;340241
Nah, they just bomb abortion clinics, persecute homosexuals and commit the occasional genocide
I agree, now we go after the crazy christians and terrorism will finally be over!
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Post by: quadibloc on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:20:06
Quote from: BucklingSpring;340216
Anyway, I suspect they knew were he was for quite a while. The final conclusion was probably timed to produce the maximum political impact.
So they made sure that the Canadian politicians would have to wait an extra day before commenting on it?

Obama did what needed to be done. Yes, it will help his approval ratings, but it would be ridiculous to say this is why he did it.

From his speech, we see that the Pakistani government does not object to what happened.

Since Abbotabad is rather close to Islamabad (but still, unlike Islamabad, in the North-West Frontier province), and since Osama was found in a mansion, I presume that others involved have been killed or captured - and Pakistan will be dealing with those who colluded with Osama.

It may even be that an assassination attempt will be made on Zardari. There could even be civil war in Pakistan - but hopefully Pakistan will weather the storms ahead.

Quote from: Son of Gnome;340130
Oh yeah and the anti muslim comments all over the internet are really annoying for someone with muslim family members like me.
Think of how Obama must feel.

Seriously, though, while Obama was very correct in saying that the United States is not, and never will be, at war with Islam, many in the Islamic world may have their doubts.

Of course the United States will never be at war with people because they worship on a different day of the week, read from different scriptures, or pray to God by a different name. Religion, though, tells people what is right or wrong - it influences their actions. And people who do what we think is wrong could run afoul of us.

Look at the blasphemy law in Pakistan, which many feel has been used to persecute the small Christian minority in Pakistan. The Coptic Christian minority in Egypt, Maronite Christians in Lebanon, minority Christians in some areas of Nigeria and Indonesia - they have faced persecution, discrimination, and violence. While history shows the United States is not about to go on a crusade to protect minorities everywhere - it has its own imperfect history - this does place some Muslim parts of the world at risk of being viewed as supportive of the same ideas as the terrorists, and it also goes far to explaining why the U.S. supports Israel - when from another point of view, it's a country built on stolen land.

But then so is the United States.
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Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:22:11
Quote from: keyboardlover;340230
Edit: I think it's funny how Ekaros criticizes USA foreign policy regarding terrorism, yet lives in a country that no terrorist would EVER want to attack. Why? Because it's too f***ing cold!!!

 
Amongst others. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2322275.stm)
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:46:13
All the dumbass Christianity haters in this thread can get ****ed. Your intolerance of religion is the root of terrorism.

People who commit acts of terror are not true Christians so don't blame the religion, dumbass.
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Post by: curzen on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:55:39
nah I think people taking religion too seriously is the root of terrorism
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:58:35
Quote from: keyboardlover;340249
All the dumbass Christianity haters in this thread can get ****ed. Your intolerance of religion is the root of terrorism.

People who commit acts of terror are not true Christians so don't blame the religion, dumbass.

Yeah, true Christians call people dumbasses and tell them to get ****ed.
You better read your Bible again. I think somewhere in there it says something like "... and Jesus said, 'He that believeth in me, though he were a dumbass, yet shall he not get ****ed.'"
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 07:59:05
Quote from: curzen;340253
nah I think people taking religion too seriously is the root of terrorism

This is true, dying for 72 virgins is no different than dying for the pope to absolve your sins by initiating a crusade 6x over (how many were there?)
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Post by: quadibloc on Mon, 02 May 2011, 08:19:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;340249
People who commit acts of terror are not true Christians
And perhaps they're not true Muslims either.
 
But in mediaeval Europe, it was easy enough for groups of evil men to travel from village to village with impunity, and get villagers riled up to murder innocent people accused of witchcraft. In Nigeria today, it's easy enough for evil men to rile up Muslims and get them to commit mob violence against nearby Christians.

Whoever the "true Christians" may be, as recently as... say, 1920... the professing Christians that one actually found were often a menace to those who were in some way "different", for example, hounding those who tried to help the people of the working class avoid being burdened by a constant influx of children beyond their ability to support.

Quote from: Lanx;340257
to absolve your sins by initiating a crusade 6x over (how many were there?)
Apparently, there were nine principal crusades, plus the crusade against the Albigensians, which had nothing to do with the Muslim world, and the ineffective Children's Crusade.

However, while the Crusades were not provoked by a proximate cause, they did follow previous Islamic aggression against Christian Europe.
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Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 02 May 2011, 08:27:08
Most efficient way to end suicide bommers is to give real weapons to them...

Still, has those christians ever realy followed what Jesus did say? Don't think so...
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 08:43:51
Quote from: Ekaros;340263
Still, has those christians ever realy followed what Jesus did say? Don't think so...

As we are all humans, not a single one of us is perfect. Good Christians try to follow Christ's example as best they can.
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Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 02 May 2011, 08:55:16
Quote from: keyboardlover;340271
As we are all humans, not a single one of us is perfect. Good Christians try to follow Christ's example as best they can.

 

Revenge is not a Christian thing.
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Post by: dracaXL on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:11:37
Quote from: keyboardlover;340271
As we are all humans, not a single one of us is perfect. Good Christians try to follow Christ's example as best they can.

Man, it's very easy to say, 'true Christian's don't commit terrorism' despite the absolute belief members of the National Liberation Front of Tripura in India, the IRA in Ireland, the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda, anti-abortionists in the USA (see Scott Roeder) etc etc. The fact of the matter is, these people are enabled and encouraged by the absolutist approach their religion provides them - either you're with them, or you're against them. Telling people on a discussion forum who dislike Christianity (due to its enabling power for such atrocities - indeed, religion in general) to 'get ****ed' is actually a great insight into religion's divisive capacity. You wouldn't tell someone who didn't like the same music or films as yourself to '**** off' would you?
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Post by: dracaXL on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:17:05
Quote from: mr_a500;340256
Yeah, true Christians call people dumbasses and tell them to get ****ed.
You better read your Bible again. I think somewhere in there it says something like "... and Jesus said, 'He that believeth in me, though he were a dumbass, yet shall he not get ****ed.'"

Haha, yeah, I believe that passage is from Delusions 13:37. :D
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:18:42
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Post by: dracaXL on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:22:38
Quote from: mr_a500;340287

Was actually in support of your statement (Delusions being characteristic of religion in general)
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Post by: mr_a500 on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:24:35
I know. I just thought this thread needed a "shut up". :wink:
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:25:23
I'm saying very simply, don't bash a religion. Or even religion in general.

That's called "intolerance".

I find it funny how intolerant atheists and agnostics are of religions, yet they claim the same of religions. Pot, kettle, black.

Same goes for the concept of "delusion".
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 09:27:32
Quote from: vils;340218
I don't belive that. Osama has slipped the net before  and I belive that when they knew his whereabouts they hitted as soon as possible.
For Obama the political risks of delaying an operation for short time political gains would have been to great.
If Obama had postponed an operation and Osama had got away it's absolutley certain that someone in intelligence would have leaked that info to the press. Goodbye to re re-election would have been a minor set-back in Obamas agenda.

 
Very good points. I take mine out... I no longer beleive it was delayed :-)
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 10:09:31
Quote from: IanM;340241
Nice how these threads bring out the best in casual racism, jingoism and conspiracy theories :lol:

Nah, they just bomb abortion clinics, persecute homosexuals and commit the occasional genocide

They must believe they got Bin Laden (not a body double) in order to make the statement, even the stupidest politician will realise that they will look very stupid if Bin Laden appears on Al Jazeera in a day or two holding up a current newspaper or something  to prove that he is still alive

 
Quote from: Lanx;340242
I agree, now we go after the crazy christians and terrorism will finally be over!

 
As I wrote in a previous thread where religion got involved: Frank Zappa summarized it very well in his "Dumb all over" song.
Look up the lyrics. Not only they are hilarious, there is also a load of truth in them.

Ben Laden was a dangerous criminal. I whished he had a trial so we can ear what he and his witnesses had to say about the whole thing. The guy sponsored and orchestrated the death of thousands. He only got what he deserved.

But we conveniently shot him in the head and got rid of the body. Who else have we killed in this operation?
We're told no Americans and no civilians were killed. What about bad guys?

Killing witnesses of an ugly story is standard Mob work ethic. But what about it when it comes from a civilized government?

Is someone cleaning the records to make sure there is no laden-gate? We as individuals were also the victims of this terror. Our lives were impacted and the future of our economy shaken. We didn't have the money to finance the response and had to second mortgage our countries.
We deserve the truth and I'm not sure this is what we are getting.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 10:13:31
I want to know if this means that the Geekhack user "Laden" isn't going to post anymore?
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 10:16:42
Quote from: ripster;340300
You guys have to admit that Bobby Jindal LOOKS like a Muslim.  The guy on the right is definitely a HHKB user.  I know that Unix Beard anywhere.


ROFL - That's a rather disturbing picture. I don't know the story but can fantasize about it.
"Hello, I'm Bobby Jindal and the guy I'm shaking hand with is my father. Here's my birth certificate. Thus, I am an American."
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 10:52:53
Quote from: curzen;340253
nah I think people taking religion too seriously is the root of terrorism

 
Taking any ideas too seriously is not healthy. Both Religion and Politic have bad records for radical extremists.

I thought even Laden himself was not making it a religious fight. From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong) Laden's goal was to retaliate against US oppression.

The religion was only accessory by mean of endorsement.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 11:40:38
Team Six FTW
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110502/pl_yblog_exclusive/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden

doesn't tom clancy write about these guys or something?
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 11:58:06
Yep. The navy seals are pretty leet.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 11:59:35
Quote from: Lanx;340391
Team Six FTW
doesn't tom clancy write about these guys or something?


Cool link. It gives a slight idea of the process. It's hard to imagine how much technology is involved.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:03:33
Quote from: keyboardlover;340408
Yep. The navy seals are pretty leet.

Pound for pound, I'd be curious to put a French (France) Special Op against a Navy Seal.
But in reality, the French would be outgunned by the US technology.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:12:39
Quote from: ripster;340412
One of my wife's friends was married to a Navy Seal.  Would tell us stories about jumping out of helicopter into the sea at night.  Unfortunately a bit of a sad story of a vet having trouble adjusting to the homeland and alcoholism though - that marriage didn't last.

 
These guys are all adrenaline junkies. It is almost impossible to have a normal life after what they've been thru. This is no Navy Seal story but the The Hurt Locker movie about EOD's depict pretty much the same problem.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:13:47
Oh that's not even fair... I woulda said any other nationality besides French and it would be at least plausible but French? They don't even get featured in video games, cuz if you played as the French it would be
Controls-WASD
Jump-Space
Crotch-Ctrl
Surrender-Esc or secondary (Alt+F4)
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Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:15:09
Quote from: ripster;340417
Never happens.  The french one always runs away or surrenders first.

^ I'm with this guy.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:23:10
Quote from: ripster;340417
Never happens.  The french one always runs away or surrenders first.


LoL - I'm not talking about the French military in general. Nor talking about the US marines shooting or nadding their own officers in Vietnam.

Just Special Forces vs Special Forces. I'm thinking Service Action, COMMANDO HUBERT or GIGN. I don't know which one would be the most potent I'm by no mean an expert in the matter.

I simply know, like their US counterpart, they don't just read book about it. They are active and get a **** load of field experience.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:30:59
Quote from: BucklingSpring;340357
I thought even Laden himself was not making it a religious fight. From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong) Laden's goal was to retaliate against US oppression.

The religion was only accessory by mean of endorsement.

 US oppression has never been his motivator (even though he later have talked a bit about it, but that seems more to have been PR stunts); he quite clearly have talked about the reason as infidel troops on holy islamic land (i.e. Saudi Arabia). His anti-israeli ire is solely based on the existence of a non-islamic state on former islamic land. He couldn't  care less about the palestinians.
As Nethanyahu put it in the wake of 9/11: "The islamists doesen't hate the west because of Israel. They hate Israel because it's western" (quote from memory).
For a good insight in Bin Ladens  (et concortes) world view I'd recommend  Wrights "The looming tower" (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/books/01kaku.html).
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Post by: Jim66 on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:52:02
Quote from: keyboardlover;340408
Yep. The navy seals are pretty leet.

Pah, everyone knows the SAS are the best..
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Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 02 May 2011, 12:59:25
Anyway one Finn equals ten Russians ;D
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Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:00:39
In terms of liquor content?
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Post by: kps on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:19:12
Quote from: Ekaros;340453
Anyway one Finn equals ten Russians ;D

 
Simo Häyhä skews the average.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:19:52
Quote from: Ekaros;340453
Anyway one Finn equals ten Russians ;D

I heard a joke from the Winter war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war): A group of 12 finnish soldiers entrenched in the wilderdness sights a force of a couple of hundred soviet troops. One of the finnish soldiers sighs and says: "It'll take days to bury them all".
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:21:11
Quote from: kps;340462
Simo Häyhä skews the average.

Iron sights rules.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:35:48
weaksauce are the brits IMO, all they do is jolly around crumpets and tea and gloss over royals!
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5762/fc2lo.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/fc2lo.jpg/)

if only they did it a few days earlier, ppl woulda said, what wedding?
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 13:43:24
My friends at ground zero are telling me there are now lot's of checkpoints.
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 14:05:58
I hope this didn't take place on american soil. To grant Chavez visa would be stupid.
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Post by: DarthBaiter on Mon, 02 May 2011, 14:55:21
Quote from: ripster;340481
Let's take out this guy next.
Show Image
(http://orangejuiceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hugo-chavez-and-barack-obama.jpg)

Oliver Stone would disagree with you...LoL
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Post by: DarthBaiter on Mon, 02 May 2011, 15:38:46
Quote from: ripster;340529
Oliver Stone will be on Donald Trump's Celebrity Apprentice someday if his movies don't improve.

maybe a vice presidency?  LoL
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Post by: vils on Mon, 02 May 2011, 15:53:53
Strange how much in common Donald Trump has with Oliver Stone.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 22:00:58
lol ***** ain't gonna get in the way of double-tapping osama.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 02 May 2011, 22:40:23
Quote from: Lanx;340749
lol ***** ain't gonna get in the way of double-tapping osama.

 Jeez... What an horrible thing to say.
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Post by: Lanx on Mon, 02 May 2011, 23:03:41
it's acceptable collateral damage imo.
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Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 02 May 2011, 23:04:15
Boom Headshot!!! (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-sQ6TN93LvU/Tb98HHSytoI/AAAAAAAAB28/p_0sAtDf7E8/s800/Osama%20Boom%20Headshot.PNG)
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Post by: What is X? on Tue, 03 May 2011, 00:56:44
Quote from: Lanx;340772
it's acceptable collateral damage imo.
sound familiar, terrorists?
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Post by: Input Nirvana on Tue, 03 May 2011, 01:36:15
Actually the conspiracy theorists may have something going on after all. I was just walking through downtown San Francisco and saw Osama on all fours, giving a bj, with a crack needle in his arm while getting plugged from behind. And he was smiling.

Game Over.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 03 May 2011, 07:19:23
Quote from: Lanx;340772
it's acceptable collateral damage imo.

You know what? I agree with you. I did listen to President Obama's speech. He said no Americans and no civilians were injured in the operation.

This was no Bonnie and Clyde couple. I'd like to know technically if she was a terrorist or a hostage.
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Post by: Lanx on Tue, 03 May 2011, 08:46:02
a civilian is like the maid or butler, they're just there to do a job, the wife of the number 1 terrorist in the world used as a human shield is really just a roadblock to osama's 72 virgins.
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Post by: vils on Wed, 04 May 2011, 04:42:40
Hitchens makes (http://www.slate.com/id/2292687/) a good point:
Quote
At least we won't have to put up with a smirking video when the 10th anniversary of his best-known atrocity comes around.
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Post by: speakeasy on Wed, 04 May 2011, 14:34:40
Amurrica GIT R DUN. USA USA USA!

YEEEEEE HAWWWWW!
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Post by: The Solutor on Wed, 04 May 2011, 14:54:01
US govenment must be used the same autors of "Lost" for this fiction.

No one thinks the final is persuasive.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 04 May 2011, 15:29:00
To me it seems more like an episode of "24".
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Post by: The Solutor on Wed, 04 May 2011, 15:32:42
Quote from: keyboardlover;341722
To me it seems more like an episode of "24".

 
Yeah, the style is more like 24, but 24 usually has all the tiles placed perfectly, not seem the case here.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 04 May 2011, 17:29:00
Meanwhile, my life is more like an episode of Parks and Recreation.

[video=youtube;mWQlad_rVZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQlad_rVZY[/video]
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Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 04 May 2011, 19:24:59
Quote from: ripster;341761
No pics of Dead Osama.

I like pics.
I wish Obama had made the other decision, but I fully understand his reasons not to be seen as in any way responsible for provoking the murderous attacks that are sure to come from the terrorists in the future in any event.

In any event, Reuters did obtain pictures of the corpses of four men, apparently Pakistanis, left behind by the mission. Perhaps it's three Pakistanis, and Osama's son - since the woman killed is not included.
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Post by: quadibloc on Wed, 04 May 2011, 21:52:50
Quote from: ripster;341816
Edit:  Whoops - the woman was killed.
What the confusion was, is that initial reports said that one of Osama's wives was killed. In fact, it was another woman who was killed instead. At least, that's how I understood the succession of news reports.
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Post by: Lanx on Thu, 05 May 2011, 09:44:08
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden_69
Lol, Pakistan saying, don't do anymore raids, but we'll forgive you for this one. If anything I've learned that the entirety of the middle east army/police force is incompetent beyond belief, the only saving grace that can even counter my claim is...
when Sayed from lost became an iraqi version of jack bauwer.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 05 May 2011, 10:28:58
Meanwhile, the Geekhack member "laden" still hasn't posted.

Suspicions are high.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 05 May 2011, 10:59:20
Quote from: ripster;342041
EU has good lawyers.  We have the Navy Seals.


EU SAS lawyers are the fiercest.
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Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 05 May 2011, 13:22:00
Quote from: ripster;342041
Meanwhile the EU is proving very good at issuing warrants at Libyan henchmen.

 
EU is doing nothing, NATO is doing nothing.

It's just a temporary association of morons and Italy is part of that association.
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Post by: J888www on Thu, 05 May 2011, 14:01:56
Quote from: keyboardlover;340230
That's bull****. Do you ever hear of "radical christians" ....


Regretfully, I have to contradict you on this matter. Yes, I hear of radical Jesuits hiding behind their scholarly studies. Heard of Opus Dei ? The most famous of all, the Spanish Inquisition who tortured before they murdered hundreds of thousands of people in the name of Christianity etcetera etcetera etcetera.
There are radicals in all religions, denying this fact is to be naive.

Before anyone start to flame my comment, I was brought up as a Roman Catholic, me think I may be able to better criticize my own brethren ?

Anyone seen this film called Loose Change ? It maybe a little long winded but it does make One think. Who is to say that it is true or untrue ?

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Post by: vils on Thu, 05 May 2011, 14:29:16
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The so called troofers haven't provided that. Islamists had the intent, their remains have been found on the planes and Bin-Laden has bragged about the deed.
If you apply Occhams razor to this it's rather obvious.
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Post by: RiGS on Thu, 05 May 2011, 14:37:36
This guy is clearly the Messiah!

[video=youtube;v4NcuPb4wmA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4NcuPb4wmA[/video]
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Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 05 May 2011, 16:16:22
:pound:
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Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 05 May 2011, 17:30:42
Quote from: J888www;342136
There are radicals in all religions, denying this fact is to be naive.
Right now, though, the radical Christians who go around killing people are only found in a few places... like Uganda. Although they seem to have had encouragement from the U.S.. Of course, there's that Phelps guy, and Mike Huckabee mused about repealing the First Amendment.

Buddhists are generally pacifists, but the terrorist Hindu Tamil Tigers came into existence after brutal attacks by the Buddhist Sinhalese majority government on
Tamil civilians some years ago.

And in India, communal violence against Christians in Orissa, and another Hindu fanatic organizing the demolition of an historic mosque built in the 13th Century were recent events.
 
So you are quite right, there are fanatics in all religions. Also, some Muslim denominations - Ahmadiyya Islam, for example - are very definitely tolerant and non-violent.

But it at least appears that some of the basic ideas that lead to terrorism - that it's right and just for Muslims to lord it over non-Muslims, and any resistance to that is legitimately fought as if it were oppression of Muslims - are part of the Sunni and Shi'ite mainstream. And, so, the way the Islamic world currently works, mob violence against non-Muslim minorities often happens and goes unpunished - and those who support the fanatical version of Islam silence their critics, instead of being themselves shouted down as kooks, having no chance to appeal to anyone but a very few really crazy individuals.

It doesn't look as though fanaticism is exactly marginalized out there.

And that's bad news for us - and if we are forced, for the sake of our own safety, to do something about it, it is going to be bad news for a lot of ordinary innocent people who just happened to be living in the wrong part of the world. Wars usually are.

There are winds of change blowing through the Islamic world at the moment, but will they have anything to do with the need to take seriously putting the brakes on fanaticism? There is reason for concern that things in that area will get worse, not better.
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Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 05 May 2011, 17:48:22
Religion is usually just a catalyzer for the violence, the fuel is economy.

Gold, diamonds, petrol, food and water.

The fact is that we, westerners, are living consuming the 80% of the resources of the planet and the rest of the people are living with the rest.

Religion or not this is a major problem, and the condition of the poorer populations is the problem.

Religions are just the spark to made this discomfort evident.

We have a BIG problem, and the problem is not one or another kind of religion, is the unevenness of the conditions trough the different nations.

Until this will not solved (or at least understood) catching a single "terrorist" will solve nothing.
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Post by: Ekaros on Thu, 05 May 2011, 18:22:20
Quote from: The Solutor;342243
Religion is usually just a catalyzer for the violence, the fuel is economy.

Gold, diamonds, petrol, food and water.

The fact is that we, westerners, are living consuming the 80% of the resources of the planet and the rest of the people are living with the rest.

Religion or not this is a major problem, and the condition of the poorer populations is the problem.

Religions are just the spark to made this discomfort evident.

We have a BIG problem, and the problem is not one or another kind of religion, is the unevenness of the conditions trough the different nations.

Until this will not solved (or at least understood) catching a single "terrorist" will solve nothing.

True, history is also one of the reasons. Israel is one example...

War and terrorism won't end unless same happens what happened in Europe, mainly the fact how war became unprofitable... EU could be one of the greatest peace organisations.

I still belive that USA's own actions are the reason for terrorism...
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 05 May 2011, 20:13:25
Quote from: Ekaros;342251
I still belive that USA's own actions are the reason for terrorism...

We wore a short skirt, so it's ok to rape us?
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Post by: Ekaros on Thu, 05 May 2011, 20:24:51
Quote from: ricercar;342290
We wore a short skirt, so it's ok to rape us?

Haven't USA done great deal of raping, with this analogy?
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Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 05 May 2011, 20:31:47
Quote from: ricercar;342290
We wore a short skirt, so it's ok to rape us?

 
Sometimes wearing a shirt skirt in the wrong place is not a good idea, as is not a good idea leave your smartphone on the car seat after parking it, and so on.

No matter if rape or theft are ok or not.

Actions should be always planned depending on the situation.

Bombing some random states just because the need of a revenge is surely a not effective decision. Bombing them because petroleum is not any better
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Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 05 May 2011, 21:13:31
Quote from: ripster;342299
Hahaha.

Foreigners.

 
after 11/9 all the world's love was directed in a single direction: New York, the US.

You managed to destroy this sentiment in less than three months, don't blame other than your government for this.
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 05 May 2011, 22:41:53
Quote from: Ekaros;342293
Haven't USA done great deal of raping, with this analogy?

 
Nice dodge. Answer the Question.
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Post by: speakeasy on Thu, 05 May 2011, 23:16:07
Quote from: ricercar;342290
We wore a short skirt, so it's ok to rape us?

 
No, but we sure did our share of raping, as well as funding other rapists around the world.
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Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 06 May 2011, 03:29:53
Quote from: Ekaros;342251
I still belive that USA's own actions are the reason for terrorism...

Yet another abysmally stupid Ekaros quote.

Do you think that ANY action taken by the US would satisfy Islamic terrorists?  What *concrete* actions could be taken to help the terrorists decide that the US is a pretty groovy place?  

Bomb Israel?  Round up the Jews and poison gas them all?  Convert the entire world to Islam at the barrel of a gun?  Replace the Statue of Liberty with a statue of Ahmadinejad?  

Please, enlighten us on the proper path.
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Post by: Ekaros on Fri, 06 May 2011, 05:59:32
Quote from: Oqsy;342409
Yet another abysmally stupid Ekaros quote.

Do you think that ANY action taken by the US would satisfy Islamic terrorists?  What *concrete* actions could be taken to help the terrorists decide that the US is a pretty groovy place?  

Bomb Israel?  Round up the Jews and poison gas them all?  Convert the entire world to Islam at the barrel of a gun?  Replace the Statue of Liberty with a statue of Ahmadinejad?  

Please, enlighten us on the proper path.

Not much anymore... USA shouldn't have done some stuff in first place... Circle of revenge, works both ways...
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Post by: vils on Fri, 06 May 2011, 06:29:04
Ayman al-Zawihiri blew up the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad just after he formed al-Qaida with Bin-Laden. Bin-Laden thought that the attack was a tactical mistake but he was not at all against killing apostates (wich he thought Egypt as a state was).
I really can't  see the US connection here.
And if you look at the wiki list of al-Qaida attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks) there seems to be a bias towards american intrests but not that strong.
After all their their goal is the creation of an international caliphate not to end american "aggression". What really triggered their attacks against USA was the opposite of aggression, i.e. the withdrawel from Somalia.
That they saw as a sign of weakness that made attacks meaningful.
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Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 06 May 2011, 08:23:19
Quote from: Ekaros;342424
Not much anymore... USA shouldn't have done some stuff in first place... Circle of revenge, works both ways...

I'm so glad you admitted that, Ekaros.  So, nothing can be done to make friends?  Good.  Now, follow that logic through to our current situation. Our options are: do nothing or kill them first. Hmm. Tough call.


Once you face the "us or them" mentality of the terrorists, that leaves the door wide open to shoot holes through the forehead of every last one of them without guilt or remorse, and gives apologists like yourself no room to argue or undermine US actions against Militant Islam.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 06 May 2011, 08:31:34
It's times like this that I wish Finland was still part of Russia. Well, I guess it is in spirit.
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 06 May 2011, 09:04:54
Quote from: ripster;342479
I hope Finnish AntiTerrorist efforts are better than their Wikis. (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Mechanical+Keyboards+Sorted+By+Switch)


Looks like they are.

Or you have a secret list of terrorist acts in Finland ?
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Post by: Ekaros on Fri, 06 May 2011, 09:10:58
No one cares about us, so we are kinda safe...

Be fair and don't mess with them for 30-50 years, or get those countries to same level where all the youngsters are too fat to care about ;D
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Post by: quadibloc on Fri, 06 May 2011, 15:22:28
Quote from: Ekaros;342251
I still belive that USA's own actions are the reason for terrorism...
What did the Byzantine Empire ever do to Umar ibn al-Khattab?

We are willing not to persecute and wage war against Islam for things that happened in 636 A.D.. However, if there are those in the Islamic world who still, today, think that aggression against non-Muslims is permissible, that is not our fault.

In 1947, because Jews who legally and peacefully settled in the British Mandate of Palestine were being subjected to acts of violence - acts of violence which arose suddenly and which were not provoked by prior Jewish acts of violence, the United Nations partitioned Palestine into two parts, one of which contained most of the Arabs, the other of which contained almost all the Jews (and, admittedly, a limited number of Arabs as well).

As soon as British forces pulled out of Palestine, there were no discussions or negotiations. The surrounding Arab nations descended on Israel with a view to drive it into the sea.

It's very simple, really. If Jews, Coptic Christians, or any other non-Muslims basically refuse to be the targets of occasional mob violence from Muslims, or to have their daughters occasionally raped by men professing to be Muslims without legal recourse, and so on, and decide that enough is enough, and they will govern themselves from now on and not be subject to Muslim rule - oh, this is just so terrible. It's against the law of God!

And so it is the duty of Muslims to descend on these infidels and slaughter them until they surrender.

The action of the United States was, in the case of Israel, to get in the way of that. That wasn't a bad action. It was a good action. Of late, yes, it might be questioned whether Israel could somehow find a way to achieve its security needs, and protect itself against rocket attacks and suicide bombers, with less impact on ordinary Palestinians not involved in terror.

But the people who support terrorism expect the whole world to be either part of Islam, or subject to Islam. They do not respect non-Muslims as having equal rights, they do not accept that non-Muslims who do not commit aggression against Islam are entitled not to be victims of aggression from Islam. No: the Islamic world gets to do what it likes, and any resistance from the non-Muslim world is condemned just as much as aggression from the non-Muslim world.

That mentality does not lead to violence because we did something bad to the Islamic world. That mentality leads to violence because the people with that mentality want the Islamic world to do bad things to us - and they feel it has the perfect right to do them whenever it feels like it.

The United States should be taking more actions. After 9/11, we shouldn't tolerate any more nonsense.

Coptic Christians are attacked by a mob in Egypt? Right, Israel now has a new friendly neighbor - a sovereign Coptic Christian nation, with the ability to defend itself fully against any bad behavior by the Muslims in the rest of Egypt.

Eventually, perhaps they'll get the message. Live in peace with others, and you get peace. Attack others, and you will be crushed - God will not save you from the consequences of pushing other people around just because they aren't Muslims like you.
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 06 May 2011, 16:03:41
Quote
In 1947, because Jews who legally and peacefully settled in the British Mandate of Palestine were being subjected to acts of violence -


What ?

What you would say if UN will assign US to Spain just because they send Colombo in America before any other ?

What happended in middle west in 1947 is exactly the same.

Someone was deprived by it's own home becouse that home was assigned to their ancient owners.

The Palestinian question its just a shame.

Hitler stealth something to jaws, an they were refunded with another theft.

Great sense of justice. Really
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Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 06 May 2011, 20:42:14
What was the Arab population of what is now Israel in 1940?  Anyone?  What nation controlled that land?  How many "Palestinian" Arabs were violently driven out of "Palestine" by Allied Troops or Jews?  How many Arabs were slaughtered in this supposed "theft"?

Read the real historical accounts, then come back with an informed opinion instead of 5 minutes of CNN CliffsNotes.
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 06 May 2011, 21:24:58
Quote
What was the Arab population of what is now Israel in 1940?


Jews in palestine were just 80000 in 1922 v.s. 4 millions of arabs, if that percentage of people gives a title to made that territory their state, I think that Irish or Italians can take control of US, right ?

No matter how look at the question that was a theft, a not justifiable theft, and US (most of the western countries) are still paying for this.

If I break the Ripster's car and someone decide that Ripster can take your car as refund how do you call it ? Justice ?

This is exactly what happened in palestine
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Post by: liist on Fri, 06 May 2011, 22:03:21
I heard this great conspiracy theory about why they won't release photos and why their dumping his body in the ocean. They Navy SEALs basically had fun and drew penises on his face or something. So instead of having everyone in the world know that they were desecrating the body as if he were a passed out college student, they decide to dump his body in the ocean.
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Post by: liist on Fri, 06 May 2011, 22:19:52
It wasn't more of a conspiracy theory, but a joke that I heard during a smoke break at the office.
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Post by: speakeasy on Sat, 07 May 2011, 04:33:58
In case anyone was wondering why Al Qaeda hates the US

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
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Post by: J888www on Sat, 07 May 2011, 06:56:19
Quote from: Oqsy;342810
....Israel in 1940?  Anyone?  What nation controlled that land?  How many "Palestinian" Arabs were violently driven out of "Palestine" by Allied Troops or Jews?  How many Arabs were slaughtered in this supposed "theft"?

Read the real historical accounts,....5 minutes of CNN CliffsNotes.
How can you be so sure it is real ?

It has always been the victor who writes the history books. If the other side had won World War II, the present "Holy Trinity" would probably be Adolf Hitler, Hideki Tojo and Benito Mussolini, they would have been worshipped as gods by their followers, as it wasn't the case, they have been made to be the Monsters in Human history by their conquerors.

Do not believe everything and take it for granted that all is true, deceit and untruths are far more popular/useful than truths. Even now there is a web of distortions and contrariety to Mr President's statements in regard to subject matter of the OP.
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Post by: Ekaros on Sat, 07 May 2011, 08:41:15
BTW who is this Osaba dude? I didn't know Osama and Obama had mated...
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Post by: igro on Sat, 07 May 2011, 09:17:38
Quote from: ripster;342951
I like how most of the posters in this thread are foreigners from wussy ass countries that hide behind the Hague and the Geneva Convention.

You guys jelly?
Show Image
(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/07/news/photos_stories/barack_obama2--300x300.jpg)

 I don't know what it is but you really mess with my zen thing.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 07 May 2011, 09:37:57
(http://deskthority.net/download/file.php?id=677)
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Post by: The Solutor on Sat, 07 May 2011, 10:03:16
Quote from: ripster;342951


You guys jelly?



Only my balpoint pen is gelly.

Obviously it's an Osama :becky:

(http://www.osama.com/immagini/logo-osama-top.gif)
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Post by: quadibloc on Sat, 07 May 2011, 13:13:44
Quote from: speakeasy;342920
In case anyone was wondering why Al Qaeda hates the US

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
Like I said. Al-Qaeda hates the US because al-Qaeda is evil, stupid, and bigoted.

"a) You attacked us in Palestine.

(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years, years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation. The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals."

The British allowed Jews to settle in Palestine during the period of time in which they controlled it, this is true. However, this settlement did not take place through the forcible seizure of land from Palestinians. Settlements were built, but the land on which they were built was bought from its owners. Note that there are many East Indians in Fiji, there are many Tamils in Sri Lanka, who were brought there by the British without the existing people of those countries consenting to the admission of immigrants - and in the case of the East Indians in Uganda, the world agreed that it was Idi Amin who was in the wrong when he expelled them with the threat of massacre.

It was after some radical Muslims stirred up violence against the peaceful Jewish settlers that, in order to block further violence, part of the soil of Palestine was handed to the Jews as an independent state. Britain was reluctant to accept this, but the United Nations made the decision to partition Palestine.

The portion given to the Jews did include areas where some Arabs lived, it is true, but even so, there was no reason to expect that those Arabs would have been oppressed.

The response, in 1948, as soon as the British got out of the way, was an immediate military attack on Israel. Israel successfully defended itself against overwhelming odds against an enemy that sought to wipe it off the map. An enemy that proved - and proves even today, for example, in the case of Coptic Christians in Egypt, that the place for non-Muslims in a Muslim-ruled nation is to be under genuine oppression.

"(i) These governments prevent our people from establishing the Islamic Shariah, using violence and lies to do so."

Under Sharia', professing Muslims are free to abuse non-Muslims without fear of legal recourse - because the word of non-Muslims cannot be considered by a court against that of Muslims. The situation is similar to that of black people in the deep South under segregation.

"(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam."

We will not be converting to Islam under threat of violence. That is aggression. We do not ask the world's Muslims to convert to Christianity, only to respect the rights and equality of non-Muslims.

There is more, although I have picked the best - or worst - parts. We will not even outlaw homosexual acts between consenting adults to please al-Qaeda. Nor will we undermine the industrial might of the United States - which stands between the world and slavery under Russia or China - by abolishing lending at interest. Those, too, were among the demands in the document you cited.

"If you fail to respond to all these conditions, then prepare for fight with the Islamic Nation."

Do you really think that it is fair and just that al-Qaeda should continue to kill peaceful Americans if we do not abolish lending at interest - if we do not accept Islam - as well as ending our support for Israel?

I am sorry, but the Islamic world needs to understand that the abuse and oppression of non-Muslims will come at a cost to it, and the creation of the State of Israel is an example of that cost. They cannot ask to be left alone themselves if they refuse to leave others alone.

Accept that the Islamic world can make mistakes, accept that non-Muslims also have rights and dignity, and we will live alongside the Muslim world in peace. Expect instead that the Islamic world may treat others as it wishes, and yet no one may lay a hand on the Islamic world, then those Muslim countries that mistreat non-Muslims will face consequences - and those who object to this, and use it as an excuse for terror, will be dealt with. As is just.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: vils on Sun, 08 May 2011, 03:20:43
First of all; Kudos to Quadibloc for well written and thoughtful posts in this topic.

Second;
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/easel/images/galleries/105718_playstation.jpg)
From here (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/05/the-situation-room-meme-the-shortest-route-from-bin-laden-to-lulz/238251/)
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 08:58:00
No matter how "well written" a post could be.

It doesn't change the fact, that N millions of Arabs doesn't have a Nation, because two or three countries equipped with the atomic bomb have decided elsewhere.

That's the only form of international right applied here.

You should also explain why an arab organization that want to impose it's form of religion is evil, while US when killed (directly or indirectly) thousands of people in latin america, central america and so on, are not.

If you want respect from someone, Arab people included, you have to start acting as you pretend the others do
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Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 10:03:04
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We have more atomic bombs than anybody else.


Yes, exactly what I'm saying.

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Especially the Italians. After WW2 nobody STILL trusts them to be competent enough to even build a nuclear plant.


As usually you can't be more wrong.

As usual is you have to tanks an Italian (Enrico Fermi) if you have bombs and nuclear plants.

As usual we were smart enough to vote against the nuclear plants back in '86.

Luckliy one of the US things we miss is Three Miles Island.
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Post by: quadibloc on Sun, 08 May 2011, 10:06:03
Quote from: The Solutor;342822
Jews in palestine were just 80000 in 1922 v.s. 4 millions of arabs, if that percentage of people gives a title to made that territory their state, I think that Irish or Italians can take control of US, right ?

No matter how look at the question that was a theft, a not justifiable theft, and US (most of the western countries) are still paying for this.

If I break the Ripster's car and someone decide that Ripster can take your car as refund how do you call it ? Justice ?

This is exactly what happened in palestine
It certainly is true that many in the Arab world perceive the creation of the State of Israel as unfair for this kind of reason.

But if someone steals your car, do you pick up a gun and go looking for him? Or do you call the police?

Similarly, if the Arab world felt that the creation of Israel in 1947 was unfair, they could have continued diplomatic activity in the UN; they could have argued their case before the American people.

Basically, the world was like this: there were the free countries like the United States, Britain, and France, where the governments represented the people, where people could freely do business and keep what they earned, where individuals had the right to debate politics and elect their governments; and there were the evil enemies of freedom - first, the Nazis and other Axis powers, and then the Communists.

The world's free countries, thus, were the ones in charge of preserving the world against total conquest by the forces of darkness.

When the Arab countries took up arms against Israel in 1948, they were showing they had some other view of the world - they felt themselves free to take up arms against people from Europe on their own initiative. To take the law into their own hands, to hinder and obstruct the United States in the global defense of the world against Communism. In other words, they did not recognize that Israel belonged to the Zone of the Industrialized World (the Zone of Peace) as opposed to the Zone of the Third World (the Zone of Struggle) - in fact, they seemed to have this sort of thing backwards.

As to the justice of the thing, one can point to the Coptic Christians, or Pakistan's blasphemy laws. A minority that is mistreated does have the right to break away from that mistreatment, and without running away from their homes either.

It seems that the problem, fundamentally, though, is that the world is not big enough for the egos of the Islamists and the Americans... and the problem for the Islamic world is that the Americans are stronger. The path to survival for the Islamic world is simple - cut your losses with regard to Israel, don't keep attacking itself and digging yourselves in deeper and deeper, losing more and more territory.

After 9/11, the United States is not, ever, going to admit it was "wrong" or "at fault" in any way whatever, in its dealings with the Islamic world - it may still graciously put some pressure on Israel to treat the Palestinians better, out of its own sense of fairness - and so the terrorist activities of al-Qaeda and others like them will have to come to a complete stop without the United States admitting it was wrong to participate in the creation of the state of Israel and without it ceasing to do what is necessary to ensure that Israel continues to be secure. For anyone in the Islamic world to persist in dreams and delusions that anything else might be the case is to continue on a path that will lead for it to sorrow and destruction.

The events of September 11, 2001 have ensured that Israel isn't going anywhere, just as the events of December 7, 1941 ensured that Europe would be liberated from the Nazi occupation.

It is the strong, not the weak, that get to indulge that natural human emotional desire to proclaim, and make it stick, that nobody gets away with pushing me around.

Quote from: The Solutor;343279
It doesn't change the fact, that N millions of Arabs doesn't have a Nation, because two or three countries equipped with the atomic bomb have decided elsewhere.

That's the only form of international right applied here.

You should also explain why an arab organization that want to impose it's form of religion is evil, while US when killed (directly or indirectly) thousands of people in latin america, central america and so on, are not.

If you want respect from someone, Arab people included, you have to start acting as you pretend the others do
The trouble is that the Islamic world started it.

You can even look at today's headlines.

Muslim men kidnap Coptic Christian women and force them to "convert" to Islam - then they escape. So, fanatical Muslims spread a rumor that the women freely converted to Islam, and are being kidnapped by bigoted Coptic Christians - and a mob believes these lies.

This sort of thing has gone on all along in the Islamic world, including with Jews as the victims, including before 1947, before 1922.

It seems, therefore, that the Muslim world does not work on the principle of fairness and reciprocity, but instead that Muslims can do what they like - and it may never have any consequences. If there are consequences, they will get indignant, and treat the consequences of their own abuse of non-Muslims as though they were aggression.

There was violence against Jews before the partition of 1947. That's why the partition took place. Further losses of territory came about because the Arab world didn't cut its losses, but instead resorted to further attacks.
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Post by: RiGS on Sun, 08 May 2011, 10:19:35
Man you live in the past! It's strage that you are an advocate of USB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state))
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Post by: Lanx on Sun, 08 May 2011, 10:39:12
I goto a salonist myself, I mean I went to barbers when I was a kid, then I was like, why do I want men touching my head?
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Post by: RiGS on Sun, 08 May 2011, 11:03:45
Maybe I should stick to deskthority as well.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 08 May 2011, 11:08:37
Remember before Obama got elected? When everyone in Europe and Hollywood thought he was an infallible god?

As a wise princess once said, "rofl".
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: quadibloc on Sun, 08 May 2011, 11:50:33
Quote from: The Solutor;343279
It doesn't change the fact, that N millions of Arabs doesn't have a Nation, because two or three countries equipped with the atomic bomb have decided elsewhere.
Actually, that isn't how it happened.

Because two or three countries equipped with the atomic bomb decided otherwise, 400,000 Arabs would have lived as citizens of Israel, as members of a minority group, instead of in a majority Muslim country. And, yes, that could be considered an injustice, despite the partition coming about because of previous mob violence against Jews.

Because the surrounding Arab countries reacted to this injustice by descending on Israel to drive it into the sea, instead, 700,000 Arabs became refugees - and they and their descendants remain without a country because, unlike the East Indians who were expelled by Idi Amin, unlike the Vietnamese boat people, those refugees weren't accepted as immigrants by the countries of the Arab world,

Because Egypt prepared to launch a devastating attack on Israel in 1967, 4 million Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza live under Israeli occupation instead of having a country of their own.

Yes, one could criticize Britain for being colonialist in allowing Jews to settle in Palestine. But the problems faced by Palestinians today are the result of the attempt of the Arab world to resolve the matter with force.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 13:40:35
Quote from: quadibloc;343349


Yes, one could criticize Britain for being colonialist in allowing Jews to settle in Palestine. But the problems faced by Palestinians today are the result of the attempt of the Arab world to resolve the matter with force.

 
True, arabs wanted to solve an injustice with force.

Just like you (we, as Europe is also involved) did in Afghanistan.


We simply should accept that using the force to solve something is always wrong, or is always right. Instead happen that the ONU resolutions blatantly ignored by Israel aren't even considered bu the US (because jaws are powerful electors in US), while half resolution is considered enough to attack an arab country, like happened just one month ago with Libya.

So how you can blame Arabs for being (at least) unfriendly with US and western states in general ?

The truth is that we are acting exactly as in middle age, just the main characters are changed, the story is still the same. And the international organizations like ONU are just jokes.
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Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 13:48:37
Quote from: ripster;343303

This video WILL be offensive to foreigners.

 
After all your choice of an actor who found his own America in Italy, thanks to some Italian movies and an Italian director, and a movie dedicated to a car named after an Italian city, is Italian friendly.:happy:
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 13:50:58
Quote from: ripster;343408
What does that have to do with the topic which is taking out Osama?

 
The day you understand what has to do, will be a big step for all the mankind...
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Post by: The Solutor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 14:05:19
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Actually that big step thing was a misquote. Damn that used to bug me.


Astronauts are often misquoted

The famous phrase "Houston, we have a problem"  pronounced by Lowell in Apollo13 (the movie, I mean) was "Houston, we've had a problem" in the real life.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: quadibloc on Sun, 08 May 2011, 15:06:41
Quote from: The Solutor;343407
We simply should accept that using the force to solve something is always wrong, or is always right.
If we say it is always wrong, then those who use force to create injustices are left to get away with doing what they want. If we say it is always right, then people are always fighting over everything.

Applying a consistent moral standard to both sides in a conflict does make sense. But the standard that would have to be applied would not be a simplistic one.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 08 May 2011, 15:17:46
Quote from: ripster;343315
In America real men go to barbers.

Part of what makes this country great.

 
Well my fiance keeps wanting me to goto her salonist which is the owner of the salon we both goto but i can't just switch salonists it's like some code you can't break same thing with barbers, but really I don't want a guy touching my head, especially when they wash your hair too. I don't even see the point in a barber, to talk to them? I like to get my haircuts in silence, I say hi, she says hi, we small talk for 1min and then i just stay silent and she cuts my hair for 20mins.
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Post by: RiGS on Sun, 08 May 2011, 15:18:48
LOL, I even cut my hair myself.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 08 May 2011, 15:19:23
I agree... I've found that too much smalltalk whilst getting your haircut never has good results.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 08 May 2011, 16:21:55
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The trouble is that the Islamic world started it.

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There was violence against Jews before the partition of 1947. That's why the partition took place. Further losses of territory came about because the Arab world didn't cut its losses, but instead resorted to further attacks.

You are a bit narrow-minded. There were Zionist terrorist organizations back in the '30s and '40s who did their part in instigating a violent opposition.
Zionism is fueled by religion as well as Islamism, and both have fueled terrorism on both sides... just that nowadays, much of that terrorism is not conducted by a radical group, but by the state of Israel.

The biggest problem if we look at things today, is that not only is Palestine under occupation, the people is actually living under oppression from Israel. Cities have been cut in half by walls and the people can not move freely within their own land. What land they have on the West Bank is gradually taken away from them by new Jewish settlements. The people on the Gaza strip is prevented from creating prosperity by not being able to trade. Israel has often answered aggression with ten times the force, and committed countless war-crimes ... and that is just a few of the things that are happening, and most of the Western world is just not seeing it.
Oppression and old violence feeds new violence. What happened two generations ago is taking a back seat to what is happening today.
If the world is going to see Palestinian violence against Israel stopped, then Israel will have to stop oppressing the people they occupy, or Palestine will have to be rid of Palestinians. Unfortunately, my feeling is that Israel's plan is the latter ...
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 08 May 2011, 17:38:48
Speaking of Astronauts and idiots who believe in conspiracy theories, here's an oldie.

the fat guy is a like a bad version of Michael Moore.
if you dont' want to google here's how it ended.
Most astronauts have refused to grant him interviews. The most infamous incident involved Apollo 11 crew member Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon. According to Aldrin, he was lured to a Beverly Hills hotel under the pretext of an interview on space for a Japanese children's television show. When he arrived, Aldrin claims Sibrel was there demanding that he swear on a Bible that he had walked on the moon.

When Aldrin refused, Sibrel called him a "coward", a "liar", and a "thief". An exasperated Aldrin punched Sibrel in the jaw, which was recorded. Sibrel later attempted to use the tape to convince police and prosecutors that he was the victim of an assault. However, it was decided that Aldrin had been provoked, and (based on Sibrel's unfazed, nearly instant reaction to his camera man) did not actually injure Sibrel, and no charges were filed. Many talk show hosts aired the clip, making Sibrel the butt of jokes
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 09 May 2011, 14:00:52
Even Obama himself admitted that US intelligence was only 55/45 confident that Bin Laden was even in the compound raided last Sunday night.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 09 May 2011, 14:48:41
America alway's has the biggest stick!
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: RiGS on Mon, 09 May 2011, 14:55:31
Do you see that green spot in the middle of Europe? Well, that's Hungary.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 09 May 2011, 15:36:26
I actually noticed that I wrote the wrong name on the tittle thread :/
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: quadibloc on Mon, 09 May 2011, 18:52:39
Quote from: ripster;343949
Well actually...
I'm astonished. I would have been sure that Canada was behind the United States in this vital statistic, because our larger proportion of Inuit (see "Man, the Peculiar Animal") would be bringing down our average - while your average would be improved by those tall, slim basketball players you have.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: ricercar on Mon, 09 May 2011, 19:18:37
Quote from: quadibloc;344072
I would have been sure that Canada was behind the United States.

 
Well, it's either behind or on top. We're Canada's *****, eh?
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 09 May 2011, 20:33:17
Quote from: ripster;343949
Well actually...

 

And think, the afro-american component gave you a better average result...
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 09 May 2011, 21:14:37
I better start ordering mine from India then...
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: audioave10 on Mon, 09 May 2011, 23:48:03
We even like imaginary women....

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/averydla/d1_eli_010001.jpg)
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Post by: RiGS on Thu, 12 May 2011, 07:05:02
The latest video of Alex on this hoax.
[video=youtube;7ksatFd8gkY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ksatFd8gkY[/video]
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 12 May 2011, 07:54:28
Did you play the new Counter Strike: Source map called fy_abbottabad ?

It's exactly like the 3D renders made from the place.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 12 May 2011, 08:13:30
The latest video of Alex on this hoax.
[video=youtube;7ksatFd8gkY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ksatFd8gkY[/video]
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: vils on Thu, 12 May 2011, 08:42:54
Read the comments. (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 12 May 2011, 09:09:22
Quote from: vils;345315
Read the comments. (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)

 
OMFG, It had me laughing so hard I somehow ended up with my drink running out my nose.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: vils on Thu, 12 May 2011, 13:01:28
Quote from: ripster;343949
Well actually...
Show Image
(http://deskthority.net/download/file.php?id=432)


Lol if you are Chinese or Bobby Jindal.

 
Jerry Coyne have a blog post about this map here. (http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/geographic-variation-in-human-penis-size/)
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 13 May 2011, 13:13:47
Latest: extensive porn stash has been uncovered in bin laden's hideout.

What a hypocrite!
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: speakeasy on Sat, 14 May 2011, 03:32:31
Quote from: keyboardlover;345808
Latest: extensive porn stash has been uncovered in bin laden's hideout.

What a hypocrite!

 
Porn stash? I though he had a full beard.
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Post by: quadibloc on Sat, 14 May 2011, 14:27:42
Also, a news item about helmet cam video, a brief snippet of which was released, noted that what happened was that Osama ran into another room, and was shot as soon as he was seen after being pursued there, since he could have had the opportunity to grab a gun or a bomb.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 14 May 2011, 19:14:55
Catch him to kill him later? Saddams death was pretty fast and his sons were executed too.
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: Ekaros on Sat, 14 May 2011, 21:45:21
Quote from: ripster;346269
The EU still thinks we should have caught him alive.

Wimps.  They should be happy we left the women and children alive.  

Hamza Bin Laden.
Show Image
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01895/hamza_1895021b.jpg)

Hmm, US does have a track record of sons finishing their fathers jobs... He might do better though than last one...
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 17 May 2011, 07:50:38
Quote from: ripster;343296
As an American the answer to that one is easy.
[video=youtube;NelBNtNm8l0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0&feature=related[/video]

 [video=youtube;jZ3j7s84znw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ3j7s84znw[/video]
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 June 2011, 10:24:55
Quote from: keyboardlover;345808
Latest: extensive porn stash has been uncovered in bin laden's hideout.

What a hypocrite!

(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/8/12/44816aad-5362-467b-adee-4eadf26e39a1.jpg)
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 10 June 2011, 10:32:40
Does that mean there's going to be ANOTHER new Tupac album??
Title: Osaba Bin Laden has been killed?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 June 2011, 12:57:29
(http://addicted-2-retail.com/wp-content/themes/newsley2010/scripts/timthumb.php?w=336&h=336&zc=1&src=http://addicted-2-retail.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/69a631d325922efdaba4c218f370935a.jpg)
Irrefutable PROOF! Obviously not photochoped either!
I bet this guy is feeling really foolish now...
(http://www.viceland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_lkjukcpbjz1qaex5co1_500.jpg)
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 10 June 2011, 17:30:02
Quote from: ripster;358418
WAIT - he's been spotted with Tupac!!!!!!

Somebody PM RiGS!

 
The only reasonable explanation for that is the uncertainity principle.

[video=youtube;YupJAdw4RGQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YupJAdw4RGQ[/video]
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Post by: Input Nirvana on Sat, 11 June 2011, 13:28:49
Seriously, Osama is now working part time at the same taco stand Elvis worked in the 80's. He's enjoying his time making cabeza tacos, drinking coldies and kicking it after work with the locals. He had to cut his beard and wears a hairnet. I saw him at his co-workers kids birthday party swinging a stick at a pinata, he swings like a girl!
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Post by: Marksman on Sun, 06 May 2012, 23:03:22
.. Yeah they say he died due to disease back in 2001.
I do not know if that is true, but you got to be an idiot to think that they would not have paraded his body around if they actually caught him... or lets say if they caught him and he actually was considered guilty, which he officially was not.
If we somehow manage not to destroy ourselves, I am pretty sure the next generations will laugh their asses off at our stupidity when they look back at this...